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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | I've been truck shopping and found what I want but it is a 2015. New and only 12 miles on it. My question is this bad for a diesel sitting for that long on a lot and not being ran. I always heard it was. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | mreklaw - 2016-08-08 2:35 PM I've been truck shopping and found what I want but it is a 2015. New and only 12 miles on it. My question is this bad for a diesel sitting for that long on a lot and not being ran. I always heard it was.
It will not hurt it all.
Just make sure you are getting a substantial discount because you are buying one year depreciation.
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| Should be fine, take a look at the door jam and see exact date it was manufactured. If its been over a year I might pass. |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-08-08 2:06 PM
mreklaw - 2016-08-08 2:35 PM I've been truck shopping and found what I want but it is a 2015. New and only 12 miles on it. My question is this bad for a diesel sitting for that long on a lot and not being ran. I always heard it was.
It will not hurt it all.
Just make sure you are getting a substantial discount because you are buying one year depreciation.
Thank you. It is marked down pretty low but I think it should be lower. They have exact truck in a 2016 model priced only $3k higher so I would think they can still go lower on this truck. |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2016-08-08 2:26 PM
Should be fine, take a look at the door jam and see exact date it was manufactured. If its been over a year I might pass.
Thanks I will do that. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | i think the 15's are better than the 16's. I bought a 15 that was on the lot for 7 months doesn't hurt at all......................I hate the new grill on the 16's...jmho |
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Location: south central usa | $3k is probably too close of a margin between the two. I recently bought a new 2016 and looked at several 1.5 yr old 2015s...decided to pass on them. (there was only about a $1k difference on the ones I looked at)
One reason that it will be cheaper is that the base price on the 2015 will be lower than the '16.
If you decide to go with the 15, I'd have them change the engine oil and drain the def tank (and stick around and make sure they do it). The def tank is one thing that I would 100% insist on b/c the def system is one of the more problem prone systems on any new diesel truck. DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) - also called urea...has a shelf life of around a year..don't let them tell you...its been in a sealed tank....the replacement fluid would probably be $30 and then add the labor of draining it... |
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Location: North Texas | runnink - 2016-08-08 4:06 PM
$3k is probably too close of a margin between the two. I recently bought a new 2016 and looked at several 1.5 yr old 2015s...decided to pass on them. (there was only about a $1k difference on the ones I looked at)
One reason that it will be cheaper is that the base price on the 2015 will be lower than the '16.
If you decide to go with the 15, I'd have them change the engine oil and drain the def tank (and stick around and make sure they do it). The def tank is one thing that I would 100% insist on b/c the def system is one of the more problem prone systems on any new diesel truck. DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) - also called urea...has a shelf life of around a year..don't let them tell you...its been in a sealed tank....the replacement fluid would probably be $30 and then add the labor of draining it...
The EPA mandated emissions reduction technology, which is the pee tank is. Actually called SCR for Selective Catalytic Reduction Technology is the reason I refuse to buy a new(er) diesel pickup. That and the 60k price tag to go along with it. I will continue to drive 7.3L PSD for as long as possible! |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | runnink - 2016-08-08 4:06 PM
$3k is probably too close of a margin between the two. I recently bought a new 2016 and looked at several 1.5 yr old 2015s...decided to pass on them. (there was only about a $1k difference on the ones I looked at)
One reason that it will be cheaper is that the base price on the 2015 will be lower than the '16.
If you decide to go with the 15, I'd have them change the engine oil and drain the def tank (and stick around and make sure they do it). The def tank is one thing that I would 100% insist on b/c the def system is one of the more problem prone systems on any new diesel truck. DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) - also called urea...has a shelf life of around a year..don't let them tell you...its been in a sealed tank....the replacement fluid would probably be $30 and then add the labor of draining it...
Thanks, hadn't thought about having the def changed. |
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Location: My Own Little World | foundation horse - 2016-08-08 2:11 PM runnink - 2016-08-08 4:06 PM $3k is probably too close of a margin between the two. I recently bought a new 2016 and looked at several 1.5 yr old 2015s...decided to pass on them. (there was only about a $1k difference on the ones I looked at) One reason that it will be cheaper is that the base price on the 2015 will be lower than the '16. If you decide to go with the 15, I'd have them change the engine oil and drain the def tank (and stick around and make sure they do it). The def tank is one thing that I would 100% insist on b/c the def system is one of the more problem prone systems on any new diesel truck. DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) - also called urea...has a shelf life of around a year..don't let them tell you...its been in a sealed tank....the replacement fluid would probably be $30 and then add the labor of draining it... The EPA mandated emissions reduction technology, which is the pee tank is. Actually called SCR for Selective Catalytic Reduction Technology is the reason I refuse to buy a new (er ) diesel pickup. That and the 60k price tag to go along with it. I will continue to drive 7.3L PSD for as long as possible!
I don't have the PSD but I do have a 7.3. It's a 94' that is factory turbo charged. LOVE it!!!!! My favorite body style and favorite motor for sure. Will drive it till I die lol |
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Location: south central usa | mreklaw - 2016-08-08 10:22 PM
runnink - 2016-08-08 4:06 PM
$3k is probably too close of a margin between the two. I recently bought a new 2016 and looked at several 1.5 yr old 2015s...decided to pass on them. (there was only about a $1k difference on the ones I looked at)
One reason that it will be cheaper is that the base price on the 2015 will be lower than the '16.
If you decide to go with the 15, I'd have them change the engine oil and drain the def tank (and stick around and make sure they do it). The def tank is one thing that I would 100% insist on b/c the def system is one of the more problem prone systems on any new diesel truck. DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) - also called urea...has a shelf life of around a year..don't let them tell you...its been in a sealed tank....the replacement fluid would probably be $30 and then add the labor of draining it...
Thanks, hadn't thought about having the def changed.
I wouldn't have thought so either...
taken from cummins literature...
https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/MB10033.pdf
Q. What is the shelf life of DEF?
A. The shelf life of DEF is a function of ambient storage temperature. DEF will degrade over time depending on temperature and exposure to sun light. Expectations for shelf life as defined by ISO Spec 22241-3 are the minimum expectations for shelf life when stored at constant temperatures. If stored between 10 and 90 deg F, shelf life will easily be one year. If the maximum temperature does not exceed approximately 75 deg F for an extended period of time, the shelf life will be two years.
Q. What impact will exposure to high temperatures for an extended period of time have on DEF?
A. While DEF exposure to constant, high storage temperature may have some impact on shelf life, this should not concern operators. Extensive testing in very hot climates has been conducted confirming that DEF stored at a constant temperature of 95 deg F had a shelf life of over 6 months. |
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Location: Texas | I would have no problem buying the 15 but I would really negotiate the price. Good luck! |
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| It is real simple ...
Dealers price 2015-2016 just a few dollars apart when selling ..
but big price difference if you are selling or trading in the 2015 vs
the 2016 a few years later ... one is a year older
You can never recover the year you lost when comparing buying
difference and selling difference ..
Like right now ... if possible hold out until the 2017's come out
in late September ....... now that would be a new truck ..
while these would be 1 and 2 years old in a matter of months ..
Look at the build date on the window sticker or door sticker ..
dealerships pay no interest on a factory floorplan for 90 days ..
so choose one of these 120++ trucks on the last 3-4 days of the month and
dealer may give a better deal to forfeit paying interest and to
make their sale quota for that month ......
Sell your current truck privately and be pre-approved for a loan ..
use your credit union if you have one ... their way of charging interest
is far better than any bank or dealer financing .. and you can make
double payments anytime you want to and knock the balance down
in real time ..
Don't give any of your financial details to the salesman and make him
put a price on the truck and remind him you are on a budget and
then you can name a price $5000 lower and probably split the difference
.... another tip .. pretend to have an appt at another dealer to look
at trucks ........... and leave if he has to go talk to his manager who
is a hard nosed closer ... lol ... and the sales office is bugged thru
the phone ... manager can tune in and listen to what is being said
at anytime and casually show up to join the conversation ..
also ... keep in mind that the pricing is rigged .. dealer gets all kinds of
paybacks from the mfg such as advertising costs, quota on certain models,
even x amount is paid per vehicle to the dealer to take care of any warranty
problems ... .. that is the reason you are always directed back to the
dealer if you call the mfg's 800# with warranty problems and
hidden rebates they didn't tell you about ..............
the file on the truck has a code in it that sez what the dealer gets
so the salesman is primarily trying to keep as much as he can for his
commission to be more ... dealers coded price is pretty firm ...
that's the way they afford those new 10 million dollar dealerships ... lol
HANG ON THE 2017'S WILL BE HERE AND THE PRICE WILL NOT BE MUCH
HIGHER TO HAVE A TRUCK THAT IS 2 YEARS NEWER .....
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2016-08-10 5:29 AM
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Well the reason I don't mind buying the 2015 is I put so many miles on per year that I always like buying late in the year that way my mileage looks better in comparison to the year of the truck when I sell. Plus if I buy this truck I can afford to have more bells and whistles than if I buy a 2017. My only real issue was the fact that the 2015 has set on the lot so long. But I think as long as I have the def and oil changed I should be ok. My ex husband owned half of a ford dealership so I know the real money maker for the dealers is the service department and parts. |
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