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| Since RHW has virtually no activity, I will try this here. Have any of you ridden a son or daughter of either of these two stallions? Have any of you seen these two stallions in person?
BTW I'm sure RHW would appreciate a visit from you! |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2016-08-08 2:20 PM I have seen Sixes Pick and bred to him. I had already decided to breed to him when I saw him or I wouldn't have bred to him. My colt was just a horse and he was out of a super nice mare.
What was it you disliked? He looks like he is about 14.3 H in the video. I'm looking for some real solid info here. He averaged over $24K at the Return to the Remuda sale last year. By far outselling the rest of them. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Whiteboy - 2016-08-08 2:43 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2016-08-08 2:20 PM I have seen Sixes Pick and bred to him. I had already decided to breed to him when I saw him or I wouldn't have bred to him. My colt was just a horse and he was out of a super nice mare. What was it you disliked? He looks like he is about 14.3 H in the video. I'm looking for some real solid info here. He averaged over $24K at the Return to the Remuda sale last year. By far outselling the rest of them.
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| I wondered last year why those colts out-sold others by so much at that sale. I thought it might have something to do with "Tres" selling at the same sale and people wanting that same line to make one as good as him.
The highest sellers were rode by the Burson boys and they sure can make a nice horse.
I've seen both stallions in person in when I worked the sale one year, but they didnt have near the following or foals on the ground then. Looking at them in person, PIW would always be my pick, but obviously sale results say different. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | ?I looked that horse up and it is not the horse I was referencing. The one I bred to was a TB and he was a POS. That looks like a really nice horse. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | ?The one I was talking about was Sixes Country. I wished I had bred to Sixes Pick. He looks much better. |
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| kboltwkreations - 2016-08-08 4:25 PM I wondered last year why those colts out-sold others by so much at that sale. I thought it might have something to do with "Tres" selling at the same sale and people wanting that same line to make one as good as him. The highest sellers were rode by the Burson boys and they sure can make a nice horse. I've seen both stallions in person in when I worked the sale one year, but they didnt have near the following or foals on the ground then. Looking at them in person, PIW would always be my pick, but obviously sale results say different.
Yeah the paddys only averaged $7000 on the 4 that sold. I do think that Tres impacted the results. Horses with that much coverage always do. The Sixes babies were all out of pretty nice mares also. So I don't think the sale results are a "tell all". That being said, I really liked the way all the sixes babies looked in the cataloge as well. I'm hoping to find someone that is riding some of them. |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2016-08-08 4:38 PM ?The one I was talking about was Sixes Country. I wished I had bred to Sixes Pick. He looks much better.
Haha 10-4, thanks for the bump. |
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| I know they are are mainly barrel horses but look at Myers Performance Horses- Bring it on Guys, Irsh Shananigans... All PIW
ETA- Irish Colours Sorry thinking barrel horses
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| barrelracer63046304 - 2016-08-08 7:26 PM I know they are are mainly barrel horses but look at Myers Performance Horses- Bring it on Guys, Irsh Shananigans... All PIW
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Location: Minnesota | I had a daughter of PIW and you couldnt pay me to own another. If you didn't lope that horse for an hour+ per day she would pitch you 8 ft in the air and wouldn't quit until she was dog tired. She would literally snap in half. If you gave her a day off it was like her brain didnt work right. I have heard this about a few others as well. I don't like their minds. |
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| aquinnell - 2016-08-09 9:51 AM I had a daughter of PIW and you couldnt pay me to own another. If you didn't lope that horse for an hour+ per day she would pitch you 8 ft in the air and wouldn't quit until she was dog tired. She would literally snap in half. If you gave her a day off it was like her brain didnt work right. I have heard this about a few others as well. I don't like their minds.
How old was she?
What is her registered name?
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| It would seem the Whiskeys are more trendy right now. Sixes Picks will alledgedly buck as well in some cases but who knows. I believe he also isn't clear on a five panel?
PIW is much nearer the end of his career than the Pick sire and seems to have more of a trend going his way at the moment. I rode a Sixes Pick briefly last spring. Nice mare but but not a standout in the time I had her.
Sometimes comparing to the top end sales is fun to dream about but not reality. They sold a few of the Pick colts for super high money but around that time some went through other sales for very little. The marketing , reputation,etc behind those top end sales is hard to compare too. Probably not a great barometer. Compare to all the ASOF colts that hit the classifieds after fultons sale and sat forever. Its just a different deal. |
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| Whiteboy - 2016-08-09 8:39 AM
barrelracer63046304 - 2016-08-08 7:26 PM I know they are are mainly barrel horses but look at Myers Performance Horses- Bring it on Guys, Irsh Shananigans... All PIW
I'm interested in them as Rope horses.
PIW all the way.
Rode a son a few times in college at breakaway jackpots. I got to borrow him from a friend. I will have one of my own some day.
ETA - This was an older (9 years old as I recall) PIW who was not a baby and had been used as a ranch horse for several years before hitting the pen. To be fair, I think you either mesh with them or you don't; similar to the Judge Cash horses, they need a job and to be USED.
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| Just from what I know I would go with PIW for roping. I don't have any experience with the other stud. |
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Location: Lost in Texas | I was riding horses for a couple ropers and he had a son of PIW that came from the best of the remuda sale as a 2yo... He threw the owner, he threw another guy and I rode him for a month before he gave me the ride of my life. You couldn't pay me to own one after that experience and hearing the same from several different people. He was pretty nice to ride the month before that...as long as you rode him everyday, but super watchy colt. I don't think he ever made it to the roping pen.
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Location: In a happy place | There is not enough money in the world to get me to ride another PIW. I bought one from the Sixes that was the colt from hell. He was absolutely untrainable. And could sure enough buck a good cowboy off. Good looking but that is all I could say good about him. Then a friend of mine took on four to break for a lady and I can tell you she won't get near another one either. I have pictures that we took of me with PIW. He is a good looking bay, well put together. I would say he is about 14.2. |
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Location: Willows, CA | We have a mare by PIW out of Dinero's full sister. Horse of a lifetime, never for sale.
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| sorrel horse ranch - 2016-08-10 4:43 PM There is not enough money in the world to get me to ride another PIW. I bought one from the Sixes that was the colt from hell. He was absolutely untrainable. And could sure enough buck a good cowboy off. Good looking but that is all I could say good about him. Then a friend of mine took on four to break for a lady and I can tell you she won't get near another one either. I have pictures that we took of me with PIW. He is a good looking bay, well put together. I would say he is about 14.2.
I was wondering if you would share.
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| Frenchie - 2016-08-09 12:18 PM It would seem the Whiskeys are more trendy right now. Sixes Picks will alledgedly buck as well in some cases but who knows. I believe he also isn't clear on a five panel?
PIW is much nearer the end of his career than the Pick sire and seems to have more of a trend going his way at the moment. I rode a Sixes Pick briefly last spring. Nice mare but but not a standout in the time I had her.
Sometimes comparing to the top end sales is fun to dream about but not reality. They sold a few of the Pick colts for super high money but around that time some went through other sales for very little. The marketing , reputation,etc behind those top end sales is hard to compare too. Probably not a great barometer. Compare to all the ASOF colts that hit the classifieds after fultons sale and sat forever. Its just a different deal.
Its true that he is a Hereda Carrier. And I agree 100% with sale results, not a great measure but sometimes the best we have available. |
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Location: Minnesota | Whiteboy - 2016-08-09 10:07 AM aquinnell - 2016-08-09 9:51 AM I had a daughter of PIW and you couldnt pay me to own another. If you didn't lope that horse for an hour+ per day she would pitch you 8 ft in the air and wouldn't quit until she was dog tired. She would literally snap in half. If you gave her a day off it was like her brain didnt work right. I have heard this about a few others as well. I don't like their minds.
What is her registered name?
I've heard this before but I'm usually unable to verify the information.
She was 6 when I sold her and Im honestly not 100% sure on her registered name anymore. She was awful. I know it had "whiskey girl" in it but I can't remember the first part |
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| Seems like it just takes some of them time to grow out of bucking...how much time I wonder. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. |
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| Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent.
So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion? |
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Location: Alabama | We had a paternal grandson.
Loved everything about him. He was put together perfectly, smart, laid back, huge work ethic, was never a bronc, and holy cow was he athletic! He was on track for 5 yo barrel futurities when we lost him to colic.
I looked up his sire a few years ago and he had passed. Can't think of his name right off hand. I would for sure try another one! |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
You learn something new everyday. Do they have running water in these prisons? lol |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:33 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
Sorry Roxie, I should have wrote, 'I" learn something new everyday. I appreciate the information and you! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:33 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
I must have misunderstood the question you had on why TDCJ has a breeding stallion, so I thought I would help you out on the question. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 2:07 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:33 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
That was my question and you answered it perfectly. Then I proceded to be a smart ass about the running water. Insinuating that it seems a little old fashioned (even though I think it is cool) that they still use mounted guards. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 4:10 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 2:07 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:33 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
I got to thinking that maybe all states used prison guards on horse back and I just gave a silly answer to your question, oh well life gos on, I just misunderstood, I still  you,,  |
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 4:37 PM
Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 4:10 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 2:07 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:33 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 1:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-11 1:12 PM Whiteboy - 2016-08-11 11:33 AM Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-11 11:09 AM I work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in the horse division and we have a PIW son standing at stud. We had 8 babies born by him this year. All good looking, very smart babies. He really marks his colts. I can't tell you how broncy they are yet, we will start riding his first babies next year. But so far, they look the part and are very intelligent. So a little off topic but I have to ask...Why the TDCJ has a breeding stallion?
I'm with you Roxie, I thought all states still used horses in the prisons. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | We have breeding stallions because TDCJ is the largest producing cattle operation in Texas! More than the King ranch and Waggoner!! We provide horses for the field force officers, livestock (cattle) bosses, and dog kennels. Surprisingly to some, we have some VERY well bred horses. Currently we have a grandson of Three Jets, the PIW son and several others. We also bred some to He's Pretty Smooth the last few years. He's by Dual Pep out of Smooth as a Cat's momma! We don't currently have our "remuda" like sales anymore, but do sell some culls in Elkhart, Texas every few months. Some of our culls turn out to be pretty nice horses. We are currently working on bringing back our horse sale where we would focus on good, broke colts and a few finished horses.
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| Ashley Lynn - 2016-08-12 10:56 AM We have breeding stallions because TDCJ is the largest producing cattle operation in Texas! More than the King ranch and Waggoner!! We provide horses for the field force officers, livestock (cattle) bosses, and dog kennels. Surprisingly to some, we have some VERY well bred horses. Currently we have a grandson of Three Jets, the PIW son and several others. We also bred some to He's Pretty Smooth the last few years. He's by Dual Pep out of Smooth as a Cat's momma! We don't currently have our "remuda" like sales anymore, but do sell some culls in Elkhart, Texas every few months. Some of our culls turn out to be pretty nice horses. We are currently working on bringing back our horse sale where we would focus on good, broke colts and a few finished horses.
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