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Location: south central usa | it's just now coming out "officially".
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| I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right?
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| LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue..
Cooper, though, “obtained and holds money and other assets” earned at the rodeo, the lawsuit says. He would have earned $25,000 for finishing in second place, according to the competition rules.
RFD-TV Events seeks “monetary relief of $100,000 or less” from Cooper and Moore.
Neither the calf ropers nor attorneys for RFD-TV Events could be immediately reached for comment Wednesday.Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/articl...They want the money back they had already won. I guess there were no laws to chagre them with or not enough evidence to meet the legal burden so a suit was the only option. Attorney fees might be huge, especially compared to the amount they are seeking, this is more than just about money but also aobut keeping the intergrity of tthe American in tact. |
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LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue..
Cooper, though, “obtained and holds money and other assets” earned at the rodeo, the lawsuit says. He would have earned $25,000 for finishing in second place, according to the competition rules. RFD-TV Events seeks “monetary relief of $100,000 or less” from Cooper and Moore. Neither the calf ropers nor attorneys for RFD-TV Events could be immediately reached for comment Wednesday. Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/articl...They want the money back they had already won. I guess there were no laws to chagre them with or not enough evidence to meet the legal burden so a suit was the only option. Attorney fees might be huge, especially compared to the amount they are seeking, this is more than just about money but also aobut keeping the intergrity of tthe American in tact.
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Location: Texas | I read where Reimer has filed suit against RFDTV for his share of the million dollars. Sorry I cannot post the link. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | BamaCanChaser - 2016-08-10 2:35 PM I searched through the lawsuits filed in Tarrant County civil court on Tuesday and couldn't find it?? https://odyssey.tarrantcounty.com/publicaccess/Search.aspx?ID=200[/q...
It was filed with the Tarrant County Cival court.
All public record will show is what what filed and who is involved. It won't tell what the outcome is until the outcome is determined.
The article is about what was filed and what was available for public eye. Regardless if we find what was filed it won't tell anything more than what the article has already stated. |
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Location: Kansas | Wonder if this is why the last American was the "last" American.
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I had not heard this. Is it no more? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Kaye - 2016-08-10 6:21 PM Frodo - 2016-08-10 4:48 PM Wonder if this is why the last American was the "last" American.
I had not heard this. Is it no more?
http://www.betterbarrelraces.com/pages/the_american.htmSEMI FINALS – February 15-17, 2017 – Fort Worth, TX RFD-TV’s The AMERICAN RODEO – February 19, 2017– Arlington, Texas
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| Frodo - 2016-08-10 3:48 PM Wonder if this is why the last American was the "last" American.
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Location: NE Texas | Frodo - 2016-08-10 5:48 PM Wonder if this is why the last American was the "last" American.
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Location: Kansas | trickster j - 2016-08-11 12:10 PM Frodo - 2016-08-10 3:48 PM Wonder if this is why the last American was the "last" American.
Frodo- where did you hear this?
My husband told me this like it was a given, but I have a feeling he had a bad source.
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trickster j - 2016-08-11 12:10 PM Frodo - 2016-08-10 3:48 PM Wonder if this is why the last American was the "last" American.
Frodo- where did you hear this?
I wouldn't discount what he told you just yet.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | horsiace1025 - 2016-08-11 4:48 PM I really don't see this ending the American. However, I could see all three competitors banned from participating again. But, they are making way too much money to stop having the American. Everyone loves it!
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue..
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Location: Washington | Cheating, it's that simple. Let's see who decides what is best for this American venue, throught the court system. I personal dislike the few who feel the need to screw it up for the masses....and thinking that shouldn't ever be an after thought by the few. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM
LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue..
It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined.
I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on.
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| RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
I'm sure he has felt a good deal of discomfort since this all went down.
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RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
How awful a world we would live in if no one ever spoke up for what they believed in and felt was unjust.
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Location: Florida | TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
OMG, you did not say that. I read about it when it happened and I am proud of the guy who reported. I bet his daddy had something to say about this. |
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Location: Kansas | Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
If someone didn't have the courage to blow the whistle, this kind of deception could happen again. It hurts the people who do things honestly. Good for Cole Bailey.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2016-08-12 4:35 PM Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
I wonder if this is the first time something like this has ever happen, I'm betting its not, just answered myself, lol.. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-12 4:43 PM Frodo - 2016-08-12 4:35 PM Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
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Location: Decatur, Texas | TXBO - 2016-08-12 8:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
That's ridiculous. When people show a complete lack of integrity, they deserve to be called out on it. If your daughter was raped and there were witnesse to the crime, would you tell her that sorry, your attack can't be prosecuted because the right thing to do is not to snitch?
I used to live in Decatur and it was all over there before the lawsuit because someone drunkenly boasted of it. Maybe Cole Bailey is the one who approached RDF, I have no idea, but it was going to get to them sooner or later the way drunk old men were running their mouths about it. |
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| COautumn - 2016-08-12 9:36 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 8:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
I used to live in Decatur and it was all over there before the lawsuit because someone drunkenly boasted of it. Maybe Cole Bailey is the one who approached RDF, I have no idea, but it was going to get to them sooner or later the way drunk old men were running their mouths about it.
I'm not promoting hostility...... simply predicting it.
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TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
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| Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
Vicki, Vicki. LOL!
You think someone can rat out the super looper's baby boy and return to his social circle on the rodeo circuit like nothing ever happened?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TXBO - 2016-08-13 10:37 AM Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
You think someone can rat out the super looper's baby boy and return to his social circle on the rodeo circuit like nothing ever happened?
Thats never gotta happen, poor boy is going to be on the super loopers black list for sure, but glad someone was man enought to stand up for whats right . |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | TXBO - 2016-08-13 10:37 AM Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
You think someone can rat out the super looper's baby boy and return to his social circle on the rodeo circuit like nothing ever happened?
?Not to worried about the roper from Oklahoma. Not like he is just some little calf roper from the sticks. His family would take care of that. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | ksjackofalltrades - 2016-08-13 11:19 AM TXBO - 2016-08-13 10:37 AM Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
You think someone can rat out the super looper's baby boy and return to his social circle on the rodeo circuit like nothing ever happened?
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Location: Paradise , tx | I think that Cole should be honored for telling the truth, and those that were dishonest are the ones that should be on everyones black list, but the way society is now a days, what is good is bad, and what is bad is good. SMH
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Tailwind - 2016-08-13 3:08 PM I think that Cole should be honored for telling the truth, and those that were dishonest are the ones that should be on everyones black list, but the way society is now a days, what is good is bad, and what is bad is good. SMH
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2016-08-13 11:19 AM
TXBO - 2016-08-13 10:37 AM Vickie - 2016-08-12 3:04 PM TXBO - 2016-08-12 1:16 PM RacinPeggy06 - 2016-08-12 8:38 AM Calangelo - 2016-08-12 8:16 AM SC Wrangler - 2016-08-11 6:51 PM LAC - 2016-08-10 2:20 PM I'm not a lawyer and do not have a great understanding of this but a few questions that pop into my mind are: What is the basis of their lawsuit? They said that payment was stopped on the check so are they suing for the money and prizes that Tuf Cooper received? Was their any type of official charges filed against them for breaking any laws? Since there was no gambling involved I'm not sure what else it could fall under.. And I would think that this maybe tough to prove unless they had some type of written agreement between them. Otherwise it would be one's word against the other right? I'm sure there is much more to this than being reported. It should be interesting to see it play out however it would be a shame for those involved to have their reputations blemished if it were untrue.. It is my understanding that RFD does have the testimony of at least one other roper who was asked to participate in the scheme and declined. I just read an article that named the person they approached and declined. He's from Oklahoma, can't remember his name off the top of my head. Hats off to him for having the integrity to say no and let RFD know what was going on. Cole Bailey
You think someone can rat out the super looper's baby boy and return to his social circle on the rodeo circuit like nothing ever happened?
I agree....Cole is not some Little calf roper from the sticks....apparently most of you have not met his dad. Cole lost his mom at a very young age. This guy has always been so respectful and he was raised with some morals and class! I have been around the baileys for years. I was a HUGE fan of Tuff! Thought he was such a good honest young man.....always took his hat off and said a prayer and pointed to the heavens.....made my heart so full that he would thank the Lord....now it makes my heart sad that he would cheat, and sit on that horse, and give thanks to God! I am sorry if I offended anyone but this is just horrible! Kuddos to Cole....he is a class act!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | euchee - 2016-08-14 9:45 AM All of this just goes to show that people aren't always what they seem and that just because a person is winning doesn't make them the greatest person ever no matter what they want you to think.
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Location: Where I am happiest | I have lost alot of respect for these 2. I hope it effects their sponsorships, and I hope they are banned from EVER competing at The American again! Very sad they had to take a great venue, the biggest opportunity for the sport of rodeo and cast such a shadow of doubt on the sport of rodeo. My hat is off to Cole Bailey and how cool would it be if RFD-TV gave him a large sum of reward money for being honest and coming forward. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Read the article that Cowjazz posted love the fact that Cole refused to participater in the scheme, I bet his family is very proud of their son, he was raised to be a good man,, Congrats to you Cole  |
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| euchee - 2016-08-13 1:05 PM
Super Looper has plenty of skeletons in his closet.
and some out of the closet too.
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Location: Kansas | chicks2 - 2016-08-14 5:42 PM euchee - 2016-08-13 1:05 PM Super Looper has plenty of skeletons in his closet. and some out of the closet too.
I believe he had some A-Rod style advantages in his day and wasn't all that bashful about discussing it.
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| Frodo - 2016-08-14 5:54 PM chicks2 - 2016-08-14 5:42 PM euchee - 2016-08-13 1:05 PM Super Looper has plenty of skeletons in his closet. and some out of the closet too.
His rope can was known to have a lot more then just ropes in it. LOL
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| euchee - 2016-08-14 6:24 PM Frodo - 2016-08-14 5:54 PM chicks2 - 2016-08-14 5:42 PM euchee - 2016-08-13 1:05 PM Super Looper has plenty of skeletons in his closet. and some out of the closet too.
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Location: Oklahoma | Cole didn't snitch. He refused to participate, but never said anything. Anyone that was by the roping chutes heard the deal go down. It wasn't just a conversation limited to the 4 in the finals. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | clover girl - 2016-08-15 9:07 AM Cole didn't snitch. He refused to participate, but never said anything. Anyone that was by the roping chutes heard the deal go down. It wasn't just a conversation limited to the 4 in the finals.
^^^ This I didnt see anywhere that he snitch/tattle tailed on any body he just refused to go along with the plan of being unhonest. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-15 10:07 AM clover girl - 2016-08-15 9:07 AM Cole didn't snitch. He refused to participate, but never said anything. Anyone that was by the roping chutes heard the deal go down. It wasn't just a conversation limited to the 4 in the finals.
This was in the Fox article ...... Considered a "Snitch" or not....kudos to Cole for being honest!
Gregory Shamoun, said by phone that Cole Bailey refused to participate in the scheme and later brought it to the attention of RFD-TV |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars! |
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM
I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars!
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM
I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars!
Well if you are talking about me, I never called anyone a liar just said it was all hear say. Lots of judges on here. I for one think it's a sad day for our sport. On the other hand hopefully these young men learned a lesson. Last time this was posted someone said something about one of the accused should have the cross ripped off his shirt. As a Christian I believe he needs faith more than anything now and forgiveness for what he has done. Everyone makes mistakes. Although it still sounds like hear say and not sure what a court will do with that. Time will tell. |
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Location: MS | I traveled from MS to the Baileys dealership three years ago to buy my truck. Cole did my paperwork and it was a pleasure to work with such nice down to earth people. So many young ropers looked up to the guys involved it definitely gives people a sour taste. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars!
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ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | SKM - 2016-08-16 7:39 AM CYA Ranch - 2016-08-16 6:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars! I was right there with you all too.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-08-16 9:22 AM SKM - 2016-08-16 7:39 AM CYA Ranch - 2016-08-16 6:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars! I was right there with you all too.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-16 9:27 AM NJJ - 2016-08-16 9:22 AM SKM - 2016-08-16 7:39 AM CYA Ranch - 2016-08-16 6:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars! I was right there with you all too.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | euchee - 2016-08-13 10:45 AM
All of this just goes to show that people aren't always what they seem and that just because a person is winning doesn't make them the greatest person ever no matter what they want you to think.
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| CJE - 2016-08-16 6:03 PM euchee - 2016-08-13 10:45 AM All of this just goes to show that people aren't always what they seem and that just because a person is winning doesn't make them the greatest person ever no matter what they want you to think. As the song goes.........everything that glitters isn't gold...........
LOL, I hadn't thought of it that way but that is a very fitting phrase. By the way one of my fav songs.
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Location: Got Lobsta? | NJJ - 2016-08-16 10:53 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-16 9:27 AM NJJ - 2016-08-16 9:22 AM SKM - 2016-08-16 7:39 AM CYA Ranch - 2016-08-16 6:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-08-15 11:27 AM I want to know where all those people are, who were calling those of us who said it happened, liars! I was right there with you all too.
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| Speaking of no class...when I was 11, they had a pro rodeo near our hometown. Super Looper flew in, buddying with the '94 World Champ Tie Down Roper. Since my bff and I were just jr rodeo kids...we were in awe of pro rodeo cowboys and we went behind to roping boxes to see if we could get some autographs. Super Looper and his buddy actually had time to chit chat with us kids while they were getting ready. While his buddy was talking, Super Looper does this half hearted turn (if you could even call it half hearted) and undoes his zipper and proceeds to empty his bladder. He didn't care who saw what he was packin. That shocked the hell outta us kids and we left ASAP. I think "talent but no class" is adequate. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Rodeojunkiesince5 - 2016-08-17 5:04 PM Speaking of no class...when I was 11, they had a pro rodeo near our hometown. Super Looper flew in, buddying with the '94 World Champ Tie Down Roper. Since my bff and I were just jr rodeo kids...we were in awe of pro rodeo cowboys and we went behind to roping boxes to see if we could get some autographs. Super Looper and his buddy actually had time to chit chat with us kids while they were getting ready. While his buddy was talking, Super Looper does this half hearted turn (if you could even call it half hearted) and undoes his zipper and proceeds to empty his bladder. He didn't care who saw what he was packin. That shocked the hell outta us kids and we left ASAP. I think "talent but no class" is adequate.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2016-08-17 5:06 PM Rodeojunkiesince5 - 2016-08-17 5:04 PM Speaking of no class...when I was 11, they had a pro rodeo near our hometown. Super Looper flew in, buddying with the '94 World Champ Tie Down Roper. Since my bff and I were just jr rodeo kids...we were in awe of pro rodeo cowboys and we went behind to roping boxes to see if we could get some autographs. Super Looper and his buddy actually had time to chit chat with us kids while they were getting ready. While his buddy was talking, Super Looper does this half hearted turn (if you could even call it half hearted) and undoes his zipper and proceeds to empty his bladder. He didn't care who saw what he was packin. That shocked the hell outta us kids and we left ASAP. I think "talent but no class" is adequate. Could've lived forever without seeing that mental picture
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| Rodeojunkiesince5 - 2016-08-17 5:04 PM Speaking of no class...when I was 11, they had a pro rodeo near our hometown. Super Looper flew in, buddying with the '94 World Champ Tie Down Roper. Since my bff and I were just jr rodeo kids...we were in awe of pro rodeo cowboys and we went behind to roping boxes to see if we could get some autographs. Super Looper and his buddy actually had time to chit chat with us kids while they were getting ready. While his buddy was talking, Super Looper does this half hearted turn (if you could even call it half hearted) and undoes his zipper and proceeds to empty his bladder. He didn't care who saw what he was packin. That shocked the hell outta us kids and we left ASAP. I think "talent but no class" is adequate.
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Location: oklahoma | sodapop - 2016-08-10 10:15 PM I sure hope this doesn't shut down The American. I liked the fun concept.
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