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Location: Jersey Girl | Need suggestions....my 9yr old gelding always seems to have extra water in his poop. He doesn't get diarhea or have "cowpies", just too much water. His butt and tail are always a mess. I have tried a number of feeds (including Renew Gold) to no avail.
I only grain my horses once a day and he only gets about 2 pounds a day. I supplement with alfalfa and good grass or timothy hay.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would say stop feeding the alfalfa for awhile and see if that will help. I known of horses that will do this while being fed alfalfa, its just to rich for them. |
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Get a good probiotic. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have good luck with Forco. It's inexpensive and does wonders. Nevertooold can give you more info. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-08-21 6:33 PM
I have good luck with Forco. It's inexpensive and does wonders. Nevertooold can give you more info.
Forco didn't help. I gave away almost the entire container. It made things worse, actually. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-21 5:37 PM
I would say stop feeding the alfalfa for awhile and see if that will help. I known of horses that will do this while being fed alfalfa, its just to rich for them.
Thank you. It's worth a try! |
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Location: Jersey Girl | classicpotatochip - 2016-08-21 5:37 PM
Scope for ulcers.
Get a good probiotic.
I was planning to get a probiotic next to see if that helps.
As for ulcers I won't rule it out but my vet didn't feel he exhibited the classic responses to the pressure points. |
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Location: Willows, CA | When were his teeth last done? If he as a hook on the lowers or a rough edge on the uppers he may not be comfortably chewing his hay completely, but instead, swallowing it greatly intact, that hay will pass through the hind gut too fast and show the symptoms you are seeing.
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Location: Jersey Girl | winwillows - 2016-08-22 12:20 PM When were his teeth last done? If he as a hook on the lowers or a rough edge on the uppers he may not be comfortably chewing his hay completely, but instead, swallowing it greatly intact, that hay will pass through the hind gut too fast and show the symptoms you are seeing.
He had them done in the Spring. |
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| fulltiltfilly - 2016-08-22 11:30 AM
winwillows - 2016-08-22 12:20 PM When were his teeth last done? If he as a hook on the lowers or a rough edge on the uppers he may not be comfortably chewing his hay completely, but instead, swallowing it greatly intact, that hay will pass through the hind gut too fast and show the symptoms you are seeing.
He had them done in the Spring.
forefront equine makes a wonderful " Equine specific" probiotic called " Forefront paste". I have used it in the past and it really works great in these situations. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | FLITASTIC - 2016-08-22 2:39 PM fulltiltfilly - 2016-08-22 11:30 AM winwillows - 2016-08-22 12:20 PM When were his teeth last done? If he as a hook on the lowers or a rough edge on the uppers he may not be comfortably chewing his hay completely, but instead, swallowing it greatly intact, that hay will pass through the hind gut too fast and show the symptoms you are seeing. He had them done in the Spring. forefront equine makes a wonderful " Equine specific" probiotic called " Forefront paste". I have used it in the past and it really works great in these situations.
Thank you, I will consider that! |
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Location: Iowa | I would suggest just feeding him straight grass hay until his intestines calm down. Take away the grain and alflalfa. Once his stools get solid try introducing the grain then if he stays good gradually introduce the alfalfa, One of our mares occasionally has this problem if she gets too much alfalfa. A year ago we started feeding Total Equine. Really good feed for all varieties of horses and level of competition. Pasture ornament, broodmares, and horses being used they all look great! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Just wondering how your horse is doing and if you tryed doing anything different yet?  |
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Location: North Dakota | I really like Excel digestive supplement made by Dr. Depaulo/Depaulo Equine Concepts. Has worked wonders with my horse who is a little ulcer prone. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | GastroPLUS helps with digestion and has helped my friends horse with this before. We call it LBS (Leaky Butt Syndrome). And her horse is white so it was super noticeable. I have another friend who did an allergy test on her horse and it turns out he was allergic to Timothy so it was causing the issue. She took him off of it and switched to Orchard and now it is gone. Maybe he is allergic to something he is eating. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-24 10:15 AM Just wondering how your horse is doing and if you tryed doing anything different yet?
I took him off of the alfalfa. He last had it 2 days ago. Last night his butt had a little mess but not alot. Will wait a few days and see if things continue to improve. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Cowgirl Kat - 2016-08-24 11:55 AM GastroPLUS helps with digestion and has helped my friends horse with this before. We call it LBS (Leaky Butt Syndrome). And her horse is white so it was super noticeable. I have another friend who did an allergy test on her horse and it turns out he was allergic to Timothy so it was causing the issue. She took him off of it and switched to Orchard and now it is gone. Maybe he is allergic to something he is eating.
LBS that is him for sure! LOL
Could be an allergy, never thougth of that. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | IAcowgirl - 2016-08-24 9:22 AM I would suggest just feeding him straight grass hay until his intestines calm down. Take away the grain and alflalfa. Once his stools get solid try introducing the grain then if he stays good gradually introduce the alfalfa, One of our mares occasionally has this problem if she gets too much alfalfa. A year ago we started feeding Total Equine. Really good feed for all varieties of horses and level of competition. Pasture ornament, broodmares, and horses being used they all look great!
He is currently on teff hay, which is grass. I took him off the alfalfa. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2016-08-24 11:39 AM I really like Excel digestive supplement made by Dr. Depaulo/Depaulo Equine Concepts. Has worked wonders with my horse who is a little ulcer prone.
He is very supplement sensitive. Alot of the ones that are supposed to help with this issue make it worse for him. One reason I only try ones that have a money back guarantee. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | fulltiltfilly - 2016-08-25 9:13 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-24 10:15 AM Just wondering how your horse is doing and if you tryed doing anything different yet?
Hope that this could be the problem for him so that you can get this fixed without having to spend the extra money. Keep us up dated  |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Update: the alfalfa seemed to be the issue. He hasn't had messy butt since about 3 days after I stopped giving it to him. I am kinda bummed because I liked other benefits it has. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | fulltiltfilly - 2016-08-31 9:03 AM Update: the alfalfa seemed to be the issue. He hasn't had messy butt since about 3 days after I stopped giving it to him. I am kinda bummed because I liked other benefits it has.
Well thats good you got that part worked out, have you tryed adding alfalfa pellets to his feed? I give mine a handfull twice a day with their feed, or a half of coffee can {its the 1lbs can} its the smallest. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-31 12:32 PM fulltiltfilly - 2016-08-31 9:03 AM Update: the alfalfa seemed to be the issue. He hasn't had messy butt since about 3 days after I stopped giving it to him. I am kinda bummed because I liked other benefits it has. Well thats good you got that part worked out, have you tryed adding alfalfa pellets to his feed? I give mine a handfull twice a day with their feed, or a half of coffee can {its the 1lbs can} its the smallest.
I have not. Will probably try it out tho. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | fulltiltfilly - 2016-08-31 10:03 AM
Update: the alfalfa seemed to be the issue. He hasn't had messy butt since about 3 days after I stopped giving it to him. I am kinda bummed because I liked other benefits it has.
Glad you found the reason! I had a gelding that could not tolerate the alfalfa. I kept him in nice condition with beet pulp feeds and rice bran. You could try the alfala cubes but I know with mine it still was too much. I did have luck with him on Peanut Hay but if you are up North it may be near impossible to get. But if you can by chance it's worth a try. |
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