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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | I treat for 15 days with OxyUlcer. Its much easier on them than omeprazole. |
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Location: Deep South | Omeprazole is the ingredient in ulcerguard that treats the ulcers. It is recommended to use a treatment dose for at least 28 days, then put them on some kind of preventative program.
ETA: Since JL Berry mentioned it, I also have had success treating them with Oxy-Ulcer. And it's much more affordable than UlcerGuard.
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE GastroPLUS works wonders! My horse completely transformed. The other thing I love about GastroPLUS is that it isn't only for ulcers but also for digestive health. Its a more complete product and does more for the horse. Also it is safe for long term use. My understanding is that omeprozale is not intended for long term use. I had my horse on it for 30 days and then switched to an ulcer prevent blend in his daily supplement. |
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| You will get MANY different answers, all which are good. I try to be economical. To treat, I got a script from my vet and used Equine Pharmacy Solutions. GREAT product! I also give her 5-10 mls on race days or days I will work her hard. I have also fed human ranitidine pills, crush up and mix in feed, they work wonders too. |
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Location: Windoming | Sometimes, though, it is the way he has been cinched up in the past. And sometimes it is the cinch itself. Not always an ulcer problem. |
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| Thank you. I was thinking it might be how he was girthed up too, but hes just really sensitive to even touch his girth area with your hand so I dont' know. He looks and acts fine otherwise. Vet hasn't looked at him and honestly not sure if I want to bother to have them out or not. We had another horse a couple years ago that I thought I had ulcers, vet didn't think so but humored me and put him on rantidine which I picked up at our local pharmacy. He was fine after treating him.
I've heard rantidine doesn't work on hind gut ulcers... then also heard it does and omeprozale doesn't work on hind gut ulcers.... so which is it?
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| Silly Filly - 2016-08-23 10:26 AM
Sometimes, though, it is the way he has been cinched up in the past. And sometimes it is the cinch itself. Not always an ulcer problem.
First thing that comes to mind is ulcers, but here are some other things to consider. If it's a new horse, it may just be a quirky thing from something that happened in their past.
Maybe one of his pasture buddies kicked him in the belly and made him sore?
Sore in the rib cage or back somehow?
Skin condition?
Sore spot, pulled muscle?
Cinch? I have one that will NOT tolerate a neoprene girth, I have to use felt. If I do screw up and throw my saddle with the neoprene girth on her it takes a couple rides before she's back to normal because she thinks it's going to hurt. Not sure why, but hey they all have their quirks.
Saddle fit?
Spur soreness?
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Location: Windoming | I had one that was sensitive to being touched in the girth area, flattened ears and wanting to bite me! It was the cinch in his case. I had switched to a mohair and used it a couple months before I realized it was the problem. Switched back to his regular cinch and have had no issues since. That was a couple months ago. |
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| Silly Filly - 2016-08-23 11:57 AM
I had one that was sensitive to being touched in the girth area, flattened ears and wanting to bite me! It was the cinch in his case. I had switched to a mohair and used it a couple months before I realized it was the problem. Switched back to his regular cinch and have had no issues since. That was a couple months ago.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Buckles - 2016-08-23 10:30 AM Thank you. I was thinking it might be how he was girthed up too, but hes just really sensitive to even touch his girth area with your hand so I dont' know. He looks and acts fine otherwise. Vet hasn't looked at him and honestly not sure if I want to bother to have them out or not. We had another horse a couple years ago that I thought I had ulcers, vet didn't think so but humored me and put him on rantidine which I picked up at our local pharmacy. He was fine after treating him. I've heard rantidine doesn't work on hind gut ulcers... then also heard it does and omeprozale doesn't work on hind gut ulcers.... so which is it?
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Location: TEXAS | When mine was sensitive in girth area, Connie Combs figured out it was my cinch...I was using a neoprene waffle air cinch. She told me to switch to fleece and he's been great ever since. At first, he was still cinchy because he still thought it was going to hurt. He would set back when I tightened him up. Now he is like his old self again. I thought it was ulcers too..... |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | They can be out in the ribs too. How I don't know, it doesn't make much sense to me. But I had a chiro/massage girl work on my gelding that started to almost sit down when I barely cinched him. He never did it again. |
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Location: United States | Yes ranitidine does work on the hind gut it just takes longer. But the results from the relief are still very quick. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Silly Filly - 2016-08-23 10:26 AM Sometimes, though, it is the way he has been cinched up in the past. And sometimes it is the cinch itself. Not always an ulcer problem.
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| Yep my gelding has always been cinchy - cinch him slow he is fine. However, when he was having KS issues, he got increasingly worse and I thought ulcers. Ended up being the KS. |
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| So after posting, bought him a alpaca cinch and he seemed like he had been fine. Then two days ago he is acting very sore on both sides again and now very sore along his back. I am hoping I did not buy myself another problem, I have had sooo many issues with the two other horses I have  He is not acting out of the norm at all. I had taken him on a couple hour trail ride the other day and that when I noticed the back pain afterwards right after unsaddling him. He seems perfectly happy the entire right though, ears up eager to go. His back is worse this morning than it was a couple days ago when I palpate it. Its the muscle on the sides, no reaction at all to palpating his spine.
I don't know what to do.
ETA: I have also giving him some excel from depaolo equine concepts that I had from another horse
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| He had been getting a complete feed that his owner gave me. And I was giving him alfalfa pellets. I am taking him off the compete feed. |
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| Wyoming Barrel Racer, where can I find more info about THE gastro plus? I googled it and Gastroplus and Gastroplus Pro came up, is that the same thing? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Buckles - 2016-09-06 7:01 AM So after posting, bought him a alpaca cinch and he seemed like he had been fine. Then two days ago he is acting very sore on both sides again and now very sore along his back. I am hoping I did not buy myself another problem, I have had sooo many issues with the two other horses I have He is not acting out of the norm at all. I had taken him on a couple hour trail ride the other day and that when I noticed the back pain afterwards right after unsaddling him. He seems perfectly happy the entire right though, ears up eager to go. His back is worse this morning than it was a couple days ago when I palpate it. Its the muscle on the sides, no reaction at all to palpating his spine. I don't know what to do. ETA: I have also giving him some excel from depaolo equine concepts that I had from another horse
I would be checking saddle fit on this horse, sounds like he was fine when you bought him or else you would not have bought him and now hes got sorness issuses since you started rideing him, I would be checking the cinch, my pads and saddle fit. The only cinches I use is the ones that are fleece covered. What type of saddle pad and saddle are you useing now? This all sounds like the saddle could be causeing this horse to be sore. And make sure his feet are balanced. And I would have a Chiro go over this horse befor I rode him anymore.  |
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| He started showing pain around his girth before I even rode him. Just was putting saddles on him to fit him, he wasn't worked in them so I don't see how the saddle would have sored him then. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Buckles - 2016-09-06 12:47 PM He started showing pain around his girth before I even rode him. Just was putting saddles on him to fit him, he wasn't worked in them so I don't see how the saddle would have sored him then.
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| Here's a comprehensive article on handling ulcers that gives you alot of info (http://www.lunatunesfreestyles.com/horse_ulcers.htm). I have 2 mares that have had this cinchiness problem on and off - not right now thank goodness - I think we have it under control. I also did some body work on them this last week and there was a noticeable difference in the cinchy situation as well as pure movement. Freed up. Treating them with ameprozole is what I started out with and I saw a difference and now they are on ulcer guard which is inexpensive from the feed store. I also like feeding a digestive aid as well as keeping their diet as natural as possible. Good luck! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Buckles - 2016-09-06 6:53 AM Wyoming Barrel Racer, where can I find more info about THE gastro plus? I googled it and Gastroplus and Gastroplus Pro came up, is that the same thing?
Here is the website. I sell it for $118 shipped.
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| Now his back pain is even further down his back towards his hips. Had the chiro check him, nothing out, just very tight in his muscles along his back. Tested him for pssm 1, n/n. He has not been ridden since 9/5. Had the vet look at him, which honestly wasn't helpful, basically it was a well it could be ulcers or it could be a back problem, take him to the equine hospital and spend hundred and hundreds of dollars that I don't have for scoping, x-rays, ultrasounds. Put him on methocarbomal, a pretty high dosage, been 3 days and I see absolutely no improvement. Pulled his shoes off yesterday, hes definitely out of balance, but I am not really sure its enough to cause that much back pain?
Any thoughts?
ETA: Had him on about 10 days of ranitidine as well and saw no difference
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Have a vet do a rectal exam and check his pelvis. They have have pelvis injuries without you really knowing it. I had one in patyre that never showed back end lameness. He must have slipped and cracked it because several vets later and lots of $$$, a cheap rectal exam found the asymmetry. They can even ultrasound the area and see if anything looks out of place. Mine rode absolutely sound. We ran barrels although he was blowing out of 2nd but would wrap 3rd. Everyone thought hocks or stifles. He had back pain but would run once for me after being chiro'd/massaged. |
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| It might be ulcers, but I recommend a Chiropractor adjustment. My gelding was really cinchy for a while. He didn't have ulcers and his saddle fits well. I took him to a chiropractor to get a regular adjustment and he re adjusted his under carriage. I haven't had any cinching issues since. Quite amazing, he doesn't even pin his ears back anymore when he sees the saddle. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Buckles - 2016-09-23 10:48 AM Reason I bought this horse is because my other horse injured his SI. Good thing I was an idiot and didn't get a vet check.
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| Here are his front shoes, my husband took each nail out individually, then just let the shoe fall of his foot so it was not pulled on to have it twisted like that. His foot matched up with what the shoe looks like,
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Buckles - 2016-09-23 3:34 PM Here are his front shoes, my husband took each nail out individually, then just let the shoe fall of his foot so it was not pulled on to have it twisted like that. His foot matched up with what the shoe looks like, First three I believe was his left front, last picture was his right front This is the set of shoes that were on this horse when you bought him? Poor guy. With the way these shoes look I can see why he would be sore, I would have a super farrier reset him and give him sometime off befor I rode him again and see where hes at from there.
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| Yes that is the set of shoes that was on him. I took them off and gave him a trim to even him out. His back has been more sore towards his loin now rather than further up his back towards his wither since taking the shoes off him, and the left side of his neck has been sore as well. My farrier will be here tomorrow and I'll have him look at him. I had sent him photos of the shoe and he said if his hoof matched that twisted shoe, he most likely stepped on it when he was shod early on and his hoof grew in the match. Regardless, every single one of his feet were off balance, not terrible, but not something I would have been happy with. He is pigeon toed in the front to begin with, so has some funky front feet. I bought him for a trail horse and for trail challenges, this is not a horse that is going to be running barrels.
With kissing spine, would his spine be painful to palpate as well? He doesn't react to his spine being palpated, just his muscles. If I give him a good rub down/massage he will relax, but it doesn't last too long. He is moving sound, he was out running around like a maniac yesterday playing and sure did not seem to be bothered. |
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Location: Texas! | Buckles - 2016-09-26 5:49 AM
Yes that is the set of shoes that was on him. I took them off and gave him a trim to even him out. His back has been more sore towards his loin now rather than further up his back towards his wither since taking the shoes off him, and the left side of his neck has been sore as well. My farrier will be here tomorrow and I'll have him look at him. I had sent him photos of the shoe and he said if his hoof matched that twisted shoe, he most likely stepped on it when he was shod early on and his hoof grew in the match. Regardless, every single one of his feet were off balance, not terrible, but not something I would have been happy with. He is pigeon toed in the front to begin with, so has some funky front feet. I bought him for a trail horse and for trail challenges, this is not a horse that is going to be running barrels.
With kissing spine, would his spine be painful to palpate as well? He doesn't react to his spine being palpated, just his muscles. If I give him a good rub down/massage he will relax, but it doesn't last too long. He is moving sound, he was out running around like a maniac yesterday playing and sure did not seem to be bothered.
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Location: on my horse | Buckles - 2016-09-26 6:44 AM
Where would you start if you were in my shoes trying to figure out what was wrong with him... imagine you are struggling to pay your own bills though....
I feel you girl, honestly I would get a second opinion from a different vet if you are feeling that yours isn't hearing your concerns or providing helpful info and go from there. I'm dealing with my own major equine medical right now and per my vets recommendation we decided to just go ahead and do the specialist exam to rule out any other issues and do as much for as little $$ as possible to get to the bottom of it. His reasoning (which I agree with) is that if you shell out money and money over time to try non invasive treatments while shooting in the dark without a clear or even somewhat clear diagnosis you're spending as much or more money in the end.
End result of my choosing to go the diagnostic route was an actual solution to her lameness and a specific treatment protocol. I was lucky enough to have enough in savings to get that done for her, and our treatment protocol was actually very affordable. If he isn't dying sore and can move fairly comfortably in his pasture there isn't any true harm in letting him chill while you save up the money you need to further pursue a diagnosis. Its not worth putting yourself deep in a hole financially, because when you do find the problem you'll still need to treat it... And if something else were to crop up in the meantime with him, you would want to be able to treat it. In my case my mare colicked ten days later while my vet was out of town and had to go to the equine hospital.
In the meantime, it still wouldn't be a bad idea to get another set of eyes on your tack, even if it's just another knowledgable friend. I know after staring at my own horse's saddle fitting issues last year I was cross eyed numb and thought everything was wrong. A friend of mine that doesn't see my horse all that often was able to point out my problem area right off the bat (giant shoulders that were uneven as well muscularly from poor fitting tack over time) ... I think mostly because she doesn't see her all the time and wasn't obsessing over the problem like I was.
ETA: sorry for the book, not sure it even makes sense! It's hard to watch them be in any kind of discomfort but making sure your bills are paid and you can devote that extra $ or any $ toward diagnostics/ treatment is worth it even if you have to wait a little bit.
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| I really don't think its a tack issue. I am not sure if I said for in another post or not, but I have only had this horse a 5 weeks. When I bought him I didnt have a saddle at all, so I rode him once here in my skito bareback pad for about 20 minutes at a walk. Bought a saddle, tried that one him, fit him everywhere other than the skirts being too long for his back, so again only rode him about 20 minutes at a walk. We trailered out once to trail ride, I rode him in my skito pad, we walked for about an hour at the most. Week later we trailered out again, rode in in my skito pad for about an hour and 45 minutes, again at a walk, I only jogged him a bit when we had a horse fly after us probably 20 feet. That was 3 weeks ago and I haven't ridden him since because he is sore. He never once acted out when I rode him. Never did the girthy thing his owner said he did when you first saddled up (walked stiff legged in front and hump up his back), which I saw him do when I tried him out.
ETA: I am still concerned about pssm as well. He tested n/n for type 1, but has not been tested for the type 2.
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Location: MD | Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-25 10:16 AM Buckles - 2016-09-23 3:34 PM Here are his front shoes, my husband took each nail out individually, then just let the shoe fall of his foot so it was not pulled on to have it twisted like that. His foot matched up with what the shoe looks like, First three I believe was his left front, last picture was his right front This is the set of shoes that were on this horse when you bought him? Poor guy. With the way these shoes look I can see why he would be sore, I would have a super farrier reset him and give him sometime off befor I rode him again and see where hes at from there.
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| CE's wrapn3 - 2016-09-27 7:41 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-25 10:16 AM Buckles - 2016-09-23 3:34 PM Here are his front shoes, my husband took each nail out individually, then just let the shoe fall of his foot so it was not pulled on to have it twisted like that. His foot matched up with what the shoe looks like, First three I believe was his left front, last picture was his right front This is the set of shoes that were on this horse when you bought him? Poor guy. With the way these shoes look I can see why he would be sore, I would have a super farrier reset him and give him sometime off befor I rode him again and see where hes at from there.
My husband took them off, one nail at a time, didn't pull them like a farrier usually does. And when back up against his foot, the foot was shaped exactly like the shoe looks. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Is there a person who does massages in your area that can do a session on him? Whenever mine is doing something weird I always call mine out and she can usually put them back together. She lets me know if it was something muscular or if I should probably call out the chiro or the vet. Always great to get a different perspective. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The way those shoes were bent the horse was not level so to me that made him very body sore, so I would get a good farrier to set him give him some time off and see how he feels. There could be other issues, but I would wait to see how he does with a reset. |
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| I just had another vet here this morning that specializes in chiropractic. She didn't see anything wrong with bone wise, just his muscles are sore on his back. She did a mesotherapy treatment on him. She said he was most likely ridden in a really poorly fitting saddle by his last owner, evident from the muscle atrophy behind his shoulder, she didn't think it was anything that happened here. He needs the weekend off then I can start working him, said trail riding him would probably be the best thing for him, he just needs to work long and slow at a walk only until he builds his back up. Showed me a bunch of exercises to do with him on the ground. So hopefully things will be okay for him!
I need to find myself a saddle for him, one that fits him properly. My cactus I had just bought is still at Cactus saddlery (was sold to me with a busted tree, why I was riding him in a bareback pad). I think I'm just gonna find a trail/all around saddle for now and sell the cactus when it gets back.
ETA: farrier did say being shod like that could have made him a little sore, but he wasn't really that bad that he should have been THAT sore
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Location: Texas! | Buckles - 2016-09-30 1:27 PM
I just had another vet here this morning that specializes in chiropractic. She didn't see anything wrong with bone wise, just his muscles are sore on his back. She did a mesotherapy treatment on him. She said he was most likely ridden in a really poorly fitting saddle by his last owner, evident from the muscle atrophy behind his shoulder, she didn't think it was anything that happened here. He needs the weekend off then I can start working him, said trail riding him would probably be the best thing for him, he just needs to work long and slow at a walk only until he builds his back up. Showed me a bunch of exercises to do with him on the ground. So hopefully things will be okay for him!
I need to find myself a saddle for him, one that fits him properly. My cactus I had just bought is still at Cactus saddlery (was sold to me with a busted tree, why I was riding him in a bareback pad). I think I'm just gonna find a trail/all around saddle for now and sell the cactus when it gets back.
ETA: farrier did say being shod like that could have made him a little sore, but he wasn't really that bad that he should have been THAT sore
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| I guess I was a bit too hopefully with what the vet did, really didn't help him at all. Waited through the weekend like the vet said, was diligent about stretching him. Tuesday he was very very slightly better, got on him for about 20 minutes and walked him around the ring, he seemed fine. Today I was going to ride him again, he acted like he was just as sore as he was last week, got on him against my better judgement took about 4 steps on him and he reared. Vet is coming out again tomorrow, mentioned some other therapies. I don't think I want any other therapies, I just want x-rays. Anybody know what I am looking at cost wise just for x-rays to check for kissing spine? |
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| This horse is still no better. I have no idea what do to. Its been 7 weeks now he has been sore, I have owned him for 9 weeks. I did have x-rays done, they showed a healthy spine with no obvious issues. Had shockwave therapy done on him last week, absolutely no improvement. |
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Location: Deep South | Buckles - 2016-10-25 7:55 AM
This horse is still no better. I have no idea what do to. Its been 7 weeks now he has been sore, I have owned him for 9 weeks. I did have x-rays done, they showed a healthy spine with no obvious issues. Had shockwave therapy done on him last week, absolutely no improvement.
I read all of your responses. I saw where money is an issue. I would turn this horse out until you have the funds to take him to a good reputable lameness vet. I have a local vet I use for all the minor things, vaccinations, lacerations, castrations, etc. But anything that I need a diagnosis on, I haul several hours away to the racetrack or the university depending on what it is. It always ends up saving me money in the long run.
Wherever you're located the BB's can give you some excellent recommendations. |
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| I'm not discounting a physical issue, but:
I have a friend who keeps her mare at my place. The mare is a wench and the friend is not a dominant person with horses. Her mare acts hideously cinchy. I mean ears pinned, nose pinched, teeth showing. Every year friend goes through hundreds of $$'s on new supplements because she thinks something is wrong. Nothing ever works because nothing physical is wrong. It's all a mental game that the mare plays. For some time I was tacking the mare up for friend and the mare did this with me a few times. I settled the issue and she does not act cinchy with me.
It's just a possibility that I want to point out. Cinchy can have such a wide range of answers. |
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| Try a new chiropractor. Just had one tell me 2 months ago that there was absolutely no soreness or inflammation in my horses back, that he was just tighter than average in his lower back.. not true. Not sore to the touch, not cinchy, but he is tightening it from pain and causing his pelvis to rotate and causing soreness through his entire hind end. Another horse was rotated through his shoulders and withers from lifting his head and bringing it back instead of collecting... caused soreness through his ribs and cinch area. Another had a dropped hip, caused major hock and stifle soreness as well as the opposite front side soreness.
Point being, one thing can cause a whole slew of other body soreness issues.. it's not always something major. Get his feet balanced, maybe check out another chiro, and it may take weeks to get the soreness out of his body once you get him straightened out. Go to Youtube and check out the Masterson Method... amazing work you can do yourself.
Edited by Dodge629 2016-10-25 10:25 AM
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| I have had two different chiropractors and 3 different vets look at him. The vets I am using for him at the moment are from Virginia Tech Equine Hospital. I really don't know any larger place to take him to.
The cinchyness is really not really the big issue for him right now, its the back pain.
Edited by Buckles 2016-10-25 11:23 AM
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