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Location: Montana | If you are looking at barrel horses or barrel prospects age 3 y/o to 8 y/o, what do you expect to get for a max $10000? This includes training, breeding, maintenance, where they are clocking, etc. I know there are pretty wide variations, but just getting opinions. Thanks!
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Location: Canada | I think it depends greatly on your area. In my area it will buy you either a younger (4/5 year old) started well bred horse with 2D placings but not been hauled or seasoned consistently or it will buy you a finished older (10 years +) 2D/3D horse with lots of placings and solid/sane.
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Location: Deep South | Way too many variations to list.
I'm not sure if people know this, since this question is asked often, but you can sort the ads on BHW by price range. That will give you a great idea of what's available in your budget. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | $10k is a really awkward middle of the range price. Around here that will either get out an unfinished but very nice bred baby, or a finished youth horse that might kick butt at the 4H level and be patterned in all the events but never be beyond a 3D horse at an actual barrel race. It's actually a price range I would steer clear of. It's too much for me to take that risk on an unstarted or unfinished baby, and also too much for a more finished horse that I would just be hoping I might be able to get more out of.
That being said I spent $7500 on my mare. She was 12 when I started leasing her and finished. Hauled everywhere and used for college rodeos. She rarely clocked out of the 3D with her previous owner. I only bought her because we clicked and I was consistently in the 2d and sometimes in the 1d with her. Otherwise there is no way I could have justified spending that on a horse. I'm poor lol |
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| IMO there are WAY more horses for sale than there are buyers. For 10K I think you should be able to get a HECK of a horse. I believe it depends what kind of rider you are that will determine what D your horse will finish out to run. With that being said, I dont think you can buy a horse that had a 5K stud fee. |
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | I know there are a whole lot of variations, and I know I can search and see what out there is priced at $10000 or in the area, and I have, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. That's why I thought I'd see what people think. It seems like no matter what price range I look in, its an odd price range. |
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| A brand name young horse, broke beautifully, sound and ready to go to the pattern. |
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| I think if you could save another $5,000 to put with it you could get a nice name brand prospect that's loping a nice pattern or a nice solid finished horse in the 3-D maybe 2-D small shows. |
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| I can tell you what I would expect...
I would expect either...
1. broke 3-4 year old with a more designer pedigree.
2. 5-6 broke, started barrel prospect with nice papers but may not be as nice as option 1.
3. 7-8 year old broke, ready to haul horse that likely is 2d/3d potential.
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | It'd probably be easier to ask the question the other way. Like I want a X-X year old, X experience, good/not important/designer pedigree...how much would you expect to pay?
But IMO, I'd say the following:
2-4 year old, broke, very good pedigree, possibly patterned but not far along
4-8 year old, broke, 3-4D, late start, bloodlines could vary some but not designer
4-6 year old, broke, crusing 2/3-D, unknown or bloodlines, but shows potential to move up to 1-2-D.
yearling/weanling you might find one designer pedigree
13+ older been there done that horse that's likely a very nice youth horse 3/4-D bigger stuff and maybe hitting 2-d, bottom of 1-D at jackpots. Likely will have some age/maintenance issues if it's running better times.
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Location: WYOMING | Dang... I can't get a single looker at mine which is nicer than what is required here.  |
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | I know it is a difficult question, but I wasn't sure what to expect. I've looked a lot, while saving, and it seems like there are prices all over the place. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | mtcanchazer - 2016-08-23 2:21 PM I know it is a difficult question, but I wasn't sure what to expect. I've looked a lot, while saving, and it seems like there are prices all over the place.
That's the other thing...I've seen both under and over priced that throws it all off. I've also found if I get farther away from a 1 to 2 hour area from me the prices are better. Then you have to consider what's 1-D to one person, 1-D to another...honestly it's a headache. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2016-08-23 1:21 PM
I know it is a difficult question, but I wasn't sure what to expect. I've looked a lot, while saving, and it seems like there are prices all over the place.
I think the reason prices are all over the place is because everyone has a different opinion on value. My suggestion is to get more specific about what you're shopping for. You have a pretty large age range and training level. I think that your younger age range is going to be a little pricier if it's on track for futurities and has a nice set of papers. You could find something that is older or was not on the futurity path so isn't seasoned for around the same price or even lower. Do bloodlines matter? Training level? So many variables! But if you have a better idea of what exactly you're looking for it will be easier to narrow down your search and see what the price ranges are.
Ultimately, have fun shopping! It might take some time to find the right one, but there are so many nice horses for sale you'll eventually find exactly what you're looking for. |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | Speedy Buckeye Girl - 2016-08-23 1:07 PM It'd probably be easier to ask the question the other way. Like I want a X-X year old, X experience, good/not important/designer pedigree...how much would you expect to pay?
But IMO, I'd say the following:
2-4 year old, broke, very good pedigree, possibly patterned but not far along
4-8 year old, broke, 3-4D, late start, bloodlines could vary some but not designer
4-6 year old, broke, crusing 2/3-D, unknown or bloodlines, but shows potential to move up to 1-2-D.
yearling/weanling you might find one designer pedigree
13+ older been there done that horse that's likely a very nice youth horse 3/4-D bigger stuff and maybe hitting 2-d, bottom of 1-D at jackpots. Likely will have some age/maintenance issues if it's running better times.
This is what it would be in our area as well. I live in MN. It is an odd price range and there are some deals out there but if it's running and seasoned it will probably have maint to go along with it. |
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | Ideally I'd like to find a nicely bred (not bred out the wazoo, but decent) 4 to 6 year old, ready to haul and season, maybe running already and starting to clock in the 3d or so, but finding one has been a challenge, so I've expanded my options to include anything from 3 to 7 or 8 years old. Part of my thing is I am unable to travel more than about 500 hundred miles, and where we are located in the middle of Montana.
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| I think I would expect more than most people on here but I am a tight-A$$. Some folks on here spend more on "therapies" than I did on my horse!  |
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| mtcanchazer - 2016-08-23 5:24 PM
Ideally I'd like to find a nicely bred (not bred out the wazoo, but decent) 4 to 6 year old, ready to haul and season, maybe running already and starting to clock in the 3d or so, but finding one has been a challenge, so I've expanded my options to include anything from 3 to 7 or 8 years old. Part of my thing is I am unable to travel more than a couple of hundred miles, and where we are located in the middle of Montana, so a couple of hundred miles is almost anywhere in Montana, LOL.
Couldn't you find a nice prospect for $3500 and have someone ride it for 4-5 months and come in under your $10K? Maybe even after a month or two, the trainer would have an opinion on the horse for you before continuing with the training expense. |
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| Griz - 2016-08-24 5:23 AM
I think I would expect more than most people on here but I am a tight-A$$. Some folks on here spend more on "therapies" than I did on my horse!
I am with you there! If I paid 10k on a horse, I better get a LOT of horse that can do danged about anything.
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| mtcanchazer - 2016-08-23 5:24 PM
Ideally I'd like to find a nicely bred (not bred out the wazoo, but decent) 4 to 6 year old, ready to haul and season, maybe running already and starting to clock in the 3d or so, but finding one has been a challenge, so I've expanded my options to include anything from 3 to 7 or 8 years old. Part of my thing is I am unable to travel more than a couple of hundred miles, and where we are located in the middle of Montana, so a couple of hundred miles is almost anywhere in Montana, LOL.
I would get in touch with some of the local gals in MT and see if they had anything or knew of anything. Andrea Huft would be a good place to start. |
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Location: Montana | A lot of good answers and opinions. Thanks all!  |
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| I just bought a 4 year old papered buckskin mare broke really well and ready to start on the pattern for 4k. Her papers are not extrodinary but her sire is a nice 1/2D barrel/pole/rope horse. |
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| scwebster - 2016-08-24 12:03 PM
I just bought a 4 year old papered buckskin mare broke really well and ready to start on the pattern for 4k. Her papers are not extrodinary but her sire is a nice 1/2D barrel/pole/rope horse.
I think we stumbled upon unicorns and magical deals. OR people just dislike buckskins  I got the same a couple years ago, and she's never disappointed. Other horses that I've paid significantly more for have come and gone since I bought her. |
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| rpreast - 2016-08-25 10:27 AM scwebster - 2016-08-24 12:03 PM I just bought a 4 year old papered buckskin mare broke really well and ready to start on the pattern for 4k. Her papers are not extrodinary but her sire is a nice 1/2D barrel/pole/rope horse. I think we stumbled upon unicorns and magical deals. OR people just dislike buckskins I got the same a couple years ago, and she's never disappointed. Other horses that I've paid significantly more for have come and gone since I bought her.
I feel like she was a good deal. I would have given more. She is a dream to ride and her color doesnt hurt either :). Glad to hear you are enjoying yours also. |
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| a lot depends also how big a hurry, i seen all kinds of deals under, 10k, but any one week or two make e nothing. there is always someone who under prices as wekk as over prices. i seen some three year olds that are nice nice nice for 7500.00 and i have seem some yahoos also. but you should be able a nice horse for that local wise. and if you are lucky more. |
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | That's one of the nice things, I'm not in a big hurry, but don't want to take years to find something either. |
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What do you expect for a max of $10000?