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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | I have a gelding who tears bell boots apart. I am only getting 2-3 uses out of a set before they are being ruined. His over reaching is NOT due to farrier work. It is his mechanics, he has a surgically fused pastern on his front left, with a plate and screws running up the front. And to top it off he is VERY short backed.
I have tried several brands such as PC, Classic Equine etc. He either rips the velcro right off (if the boot spins) or he catches the bottom seam on the back and rips it off, or puts holes in the backs. I just got a set of RES that I have not tried yet. I have tried the cheap rubber boots to save a few bucks but he is only getting 1-2 runs out of those. I have played with size trying to get them to not turn, which is tricky because his right pastern is normal, and the left is much thicker.
I am wondering if there is an extremly tough boot I can try, or is there something I can do to help keep them in place and add protection? I will continue to pay for bell boots because I would rather have ruined bells than an injured horse, but it is getting rather expensive. 
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Location: Northern Ontario | Have you tried massage or chiro on his neck and shoulders? Maybe he isn't moving his front legs out of the way fast enough to not overreach. Idk, its just a suggestion....Also, does he ruin his boots on both legs or just the one with the plate and screws? |
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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | He gets regular Chiro/message. And he is rarely every out, and never badly. he over reaches on both, but mostly on the fused side, I have discussed this with my vet and he agrees it is simply his mechanics now. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I have a few pairs that are harder outer shell boots I will check what brand they are for you maybe something like that would work better. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I also knew a few that would wrap their bell boots with vet wrap to help. |
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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | Did they wrap it right under the heel? I am just trying to picture it... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | DPentland - 2016-09-18 12:13 PM Did they wrap it right under the heel? I am just trying to picture it...
When I had issues with my bells I would wrap the vet wrap around the hoof and heel area to give the bells something to grip on so that they would not turn and they stayed in place better. And some would wrap the bells with vet wrap so they would not rip them off as easy. But I alway like wraping the hoof and heel for more protection of the heel if I had a problem with a horse riping off their boots. |
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| Longer toe on back( shod like a Reiner ) & front roll the toe off the front. That way the back does not break over as fast & front feet will & can get out of the way faster. It will take about a week for him to get used to this stride.
ALSO VERY IMPORTANT: stretch his front legs 2-3 more time to every 1 time you stretch his back legs. Makes a huge difference.
I have a gelding that his strides like this & it has done the trick. |
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| Classic Equine makes a hard shell bell boot. They don't spin and fit really well,maybe they would work. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The bells that I have are the Classice Equine ProTech.. Love these  |
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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | run@winedge
He runs barefoot and is trimmed as you describe already. The mechanics of his stride are not going to change just need to figure out how to, not buy shares in bell boot companies lol.
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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-18 12:20 PM The bells that I have are the Classice Equine ProTech.. Love these
I just googled and those look like ones to try for sure! Thanks for the suggestion. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | DPentland - 2016-09-18 2:27 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-18 12:20 PM The bells that I have are the Classice Equine ProTech.. Love these
Hope they can save you a little money by not getting riped off every time you make a run, they are a little more expensive but maybe last longer, good luck |
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Location: Alberta Canada | You probably would do best with an eventer type boot. I bought the Horsewear Dalmar boots with the carbon strike protection this year to use on the rope horses. They are super light weight, easy to clean & fit really nice. I'm actually probably going to get a few more pairs of the over reach boots to use on all the horses I like them so much.
http://shop.horseware.com/p/dalmar-overreach-boot/dalmar?pp=8
Edited by canadiannorth 2016-09-18 2:58 PM
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Location: Phoenix | The ProTechs from CE might be your best bet. Although you could try a normal Belboot with a rubber Belboot over it.... I have seen that before. |
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| I belive Pro Orthapedic ones are made with Kevlar...Maybe do the electrical tape trick if you get a pair of front shoes on? Does he wear bells 24/7?? Otherwise what about these? https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/veredus-carbon-shield-heel-protector-boots-10944 I know they're expensive but you could try to buy used |
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| My daughters high school horse was like that, we used the combo set splint boots and bell boots all made together in one unit. A local upholstery guy would sew heavy dense material to the back portion and the patch when needed |
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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | cheeka77 - 2016-09-19 12:24 AM I belive Pro Orthapedic ones are made with Kevlar...Maybe do the electrical tape trick if you get a pair of front shoes on? Does he wear bells 24/7?? Otherwise what about these? https://www.smartpakequine.com/pt/veredus-carbon-shield-heel-protector-boots-10944 I know they're expensive but you could try to buy used
His mechanics get worse with shoes so he stays barefoot. He does not wear bell boots outside of arena work and barrel runs. He is fine to trail ride without and does not hurt himself in the field. Even doing arena work he is ok. He just gets crazy legs when he runs a pattern I guess lol. Those boots look like they would be worth a try |
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| https://www.thinlineglobal.com/shop/english-horse-tack/gatorbootz-bell-boot-fail-proof-closure-by-thinline? These are pretty tough, kind of a pain to get on and off until you get the hang of it. They run very big, so a small fits all my Quarter horses. |
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Location: North Dakota | The new Fallon Taylor bell boots are supposed to have a really good material on the back of them. Not sure if they stand up really well or not as I have not tried them, but it is worth a shot.
Read about them on this link:
http://fallontaylor.com/de-bell-boots-black/ |
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| Another thing to try is those classic equine with the taller tops, might keep them from twisting. I have contemplated trying them. My gelding doesn't over reach too bad but his bell boots always spin and he has expensive shoes!
https://www.horseloverz.com/horse-equipment/horse-bell-boots/classic...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/371670985696?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=t...
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Location: Kansas | Slightly off topic, but I've discovered one of my horses is soring up a heel, even through his bell boots. He usually wears Weaver, Pro Equine or Professionals Choice because they are a bit taller than Classic Equine, but now I'm thinking he needs something with more padding. I had one random Pro-Tech and amazingly, it covers his heel & shoe, so I put it on the bad foot. Are there any brands besides Pro-Tech that are extra tough across the back? |
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| You might look into the ones that Fallon has. I bought a pair . They are made different in the back. More protection and seem stronger |
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| I use to have a pair of Bar-F bell boots with suede on the outside layer. they were the toughest pair i have ever had and lasted forever. i don't know if they make them anymore but would love to find some like that. |
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Location: on my horse | I really like my davis no turn bell boots. They seem like they last forever and even if the pvc on the back cracks a little they don't spin and the velcro holds up great. I've got one pair I've had for 3 or 4 years now |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | snoopyjoe - 2016-09-20 2:19 PM I use to have a pair of Bar-F bell boots with suede on the outside layer. they were the toughest pair i have ever had and lasted forever. i don't know if they make them anymore but would love to find some like that. I still have mine from the 80s. These boots are indestructable in my opinion.
Buy some Bar-F Bells. They are thick and heavy and have a very hard outter shell.
You'll have to do some googling to find them but they are worth it. Very affordable as well.
Here is the website. Look into the No turns and No turns leather. These are the originals and are made better than the new ones. https://horseboots.com/collections/bell-boots
Edited by IRunOnFaith 2016-09-22 9:25 AM
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| Thanks for the info on Bar-F. I ordered the ones with the leather. They will last forever |
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Location: BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA | *UPDATE*
I tried wrapping around his front hooves with vetwrap before putting on a pair of RES bells. The vetwrap worked great! The bells did not move, he did not tear through the backs of the RES bells either....ANNNND He got his first, 1st place in the 1D!! Great day!
Thank you everyone for all your wonderful suggestions.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | DPentland - 2016-09-28 2:17 PM *UPDATE*
I tried wrapping around his front hooves with vetwrap before putting on a pair of RES bells. The vetwrap worked great! The bells did not move, he did not tear through the backs of the RES bells either....ANNNND He got his first, 1st place in the 1D!! Great day!
Thank you everyone for all your wonderful suggestions.
How awesome and congrats |
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Location: Arkansas | Congratulations |
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