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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Remember the tainted dog food from China?
Read this article!
By Tracy Coleman
Smithfield Farms, the largest pork producing farm in the USA was sold in September to China with the unanimous support of its stockholders!! The hogs will still be raised here, but slaughtered and packaged for sale there before being sent back here. This includes labels of Morrell, Eckrich, Krakus, Cudahy, Premium Ham, Cook’s and Gwaltney
The same with many chickens. They can now be shipped there, but when they come back all that needs to be labelled is that they WERE RAISED IN THE USA . Not that they were processed in China !!!
Our great FDA at work again. The chickens will be all processed and most sold to fast food restaurants for sandwiches, along with schools and supermarkets. The China slaughter and processing are not nearly equal to the requirements here.
We recently learned that Starkist Tuna is now owned by Korea , and is in big conflict with the U.S.concerning quality, safety, and records, which Korea refuses to produce.
Read several articles on Google about this, and even one that was defending the eating of tilapia said to avoid the fish that came from China ?
Also, I had just returned home from buying Albertson’s 4-day special of 4 bags of frozen tilapia for the price of one? Sure enough, on the top of the bags, it read “farm raised”, and on the bottom in small print it said, ” China ”
Recently a Food inspector on TV said he had lived overseas and he had seen the filthy conditions their foods are raised and processed in. Some foreign workers have to wear masks as they work in these places, because the food is so rotten, it makes them want to throw up. Many of their fish on Fish Farms are fed raw sewage daily. He said he has seen so much filth throughout their food growing and processing that he would “never” eat any of it. They raise it, put some food coloring and some flavorings on it, then they ship it to the USA & Canada for YOU to consume and feed to YOUR families. They have no Food & Safety Inspectors. They ship it to you to buy and poison your families and friends with.
Imported food we eat and the junk we buy:
Green Giant frozen vegetables are from China,
and so are most of Europe ‘s Best.
Arctic Gardens are OK so is Birdseye.
*Never buy the grocery store garlic unless it is clearly marked from USA or Canada *, the other stuff is grown in people poop (even worse than chicken poop). China is the largest producer of garlic in the world; U.S. is next.
*Buy only local honey*, much honey is shipped in huge containers from China and re-packed here.
Cold-FX is grown and packed in China and is full of fecal bacteria. Doesn’t work anyway, big scam.
If the country of origin is not clearly marked, beware
If produce, ask an employee.
Watch out for packages which state “prepared for”, “packed by” or “imported by”. We don’t understand the lack of mandatory labelling, especially the produce.
The country of origin should be clearly shown on the item in the store.
Go to the local farmers’ markets in season and keep a wary eye open the rest of the year.
Please read this very carefully, and read to the very bottom. It’s important for all of us.
How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it produced in the U. S. or Canada ? It is not, it is part of Obama’s ‘trade agreement’ with China .
FOR EXAMPLE THE “OUR FAMILY” BRAND OF MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON THE CAN ‘FROM CHINA ‘. – SO, for a FEW MORE CENTS, BUY THE * LIBERTY * BRAND, *GOLD BRAND or DOLE from CALIFORNIA *.
Beware, Costco sells canned peaches and pears in a plastic jar that come from China .
ALL “HIGH LINER” AND MOST OTHER FROZEN FISH PRODUCTS COME FROM CHINA OR INDONESIA . THE PACKAGE MAY SAY “PACIFIC SALMON” ON THE FRONT, BUT LOOK FOR THE SMALL PRINT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS COME FROM FISH FARMS IN THE ORIENT WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS ON WHAT IS FED TO THESE FISH.
*Recently The Montreal Gazette had an article* by the Canadian Government on how Chinese feed the fish: They suspend chicken wire crates over the fish ponds, and the fish feed on chicken poop.
If you search the internet about what the Chinese feed their fish, you’ll be alarmed; eg: growth hormones, expired anti- biotic from humans? Never buy any type of fish or shellfish that comes from these countries: Vietnam , China or the Philippines .
Steinfeld’s Pickles are made in India – just as bad!
Another example is in canned mushrooms. No-Name brand comes from Indonesia .
Also check those little fruit cups. They used to be made in Canada in the Niagara region until about 2 years ago. They are now packaged in China . Most sold in Aldi stores.
While the Chinese export inferior and even toxic products, dangerous toys, and goods to be sold in North American markets, the media wrings its hands! Yet, 70% of North Americans believe that the trading privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended.
Well, duh! Why do you need the government to suspend trading privileges?
SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, CANADA and the U.S.
Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says ‘Made in China ‘ or ‘PRC’ (and that now includes Hong Kong ), simply choose another product, or none at all. You will be amazed at what you can do without.
THINK ABOUT THIS
If 200 million North Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese goods, that’s a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our favor fast! The downside? Some Canadian/American businesses will feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory.
Just one month of trading losses will hit the Chinese for 8% of their North American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness are worth it.
*START NOW and don’t stop, and tell your friends*
Send this to everybody you know. Let’s show them that we are intelligent, and NOBODY can take us for granted *Start reading labels more closely and buy American even if it cost a few cents more*.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | If this is true, this is the sort of crap Trump is talking about, when you really think about it. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Kathie, who is Tracey Coleman, and where did you get that article? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | How horrible, I was told that fish and other meats that were shipped from over seas was trash and they did feed crap to fatten up their animals. 
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Location: Kansas | ...and if you really want to ruin your day or maybe even your life, read about the dogs the Chinese raise for food, slaughtering them by the thousands. I despise these people and the way they treat animals.
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Location: lone star state | It's real simple, READ the label of products you intend to purchase. Americans would be shocked to know where their food is really coming from and how much is imported from substandard countries. Easiest to buy local produce and if possible raise your own produce/beef/meat and have processed locally.
Even toothpaste and medications are imported, read those labels too! Sad that our leaders have sold out safety and standards for their own political agenda. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | You would be amazed at how many of our frozen foods, including veggies, come from Asia and Mexico. Fish inspections for imports were turned over to the USDA in April, and in the first 2 weeks, they had rejected more Asian fish and seafood than the FDA had in 2 years. There have been many more shipments rejected since, and some ships turned around without docking rather than submit to inspections. Now congress wants to hand inspections back to the FDA over "budget concerns". Haha. |
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Location: Florida | Buy American, the job you save may be your own. Support your Union, they work to keep jobs at home. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Bear - 2016-09-25 1:13 PM Kathie, who is Tracey Coleman, and where did you get that article?
My husband found it on a gun sport forum he reads.
I don't know for sure about the processing as I had heard they were going to do this awhile back.
I know most of the other is true as I posted years ago about so much of the frozen vegetables and some canned vegetables coming from China and Mexico. So much of our fresh fruit and melons come from Mexico and other Southern countries.
Many years ago I discovered frozen broccoli coming from China that we had purchased at Costco so I quit buying it.
Then I found a shell of a bug in our Green Giant Asparagus and it turns out it comes from Peru and when I called the company about it, the lady knew what it was right away...a locust shell. They sent me some coupons.
Because of the above...we started to buy fresh fruits and vegetables. It drives me nuts how much comes from foreign countries.
I'll never forget when Pelosi was asked about the shutting down of some of the agriculture in California because of a smelt, She replied, "We don't need to be worrying about growing food, that is what third world countries should do." I guess that was the beginning of World Globalism.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | It is true that China bought Smithfield. I can't imagine them not trying to cut corners and costs. Most shipping containers go back to China empty so I could see them doing this...It's business. When you don't pay your people in your country...cutting out having to pay American's real wages gives for a lot of extra money. I don't know if they actually have room to raise hogs so I guess this is a win, win for China. |
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Location: Kansas | Vickie - 2016-09-25 2:06 PM Buy American, the job you save may be your own. Support your Union, they work to keep jobs at home.
Powerful and corrupt unions are the reason Detroit is dying and many of our vehicles are being built in Mexico.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I read the packaging carefully, before I buy dog treats and rawhide, to be sure they're not from Asia. I will have to start reading the labels on my food more carefully. I did not realize some of those companies were owned by Chinese corporations now. Thanks for posting this. |
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| Nevertooold - 2016-09-25 3:58 PM It is true that China bought Smithfield. I can't imagine them not trying to cut corners and costs. Most shipping containers go back to China empty so I could see them doing this...It's business. When you don't pay your people in your country...cutting out having to pay American's real wages gives for a lot of extra money. I don't know if they actually have room to raise hogs so I guess this is a win, win for China.
i loved smithville hams but don/t buy anymore they were the best if i eat meat is a deer |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM
You would be amazed at how many of our frozen foods, including veggies, come from Asia and Mexico. Fish inspections for imports were turned over to the USDA in April, and in the first 2 weeks, they had rejected more Asian fish and seafood than the FDA had in 2 years. There have been many more shipments rejected since, and some ships turned around without docking rather than submit to inspections. Now congress wants to hand inspections back to the FDA over "budget concerns". Haha.
While that is a plus, we cannot rely on government to monitor our food supply from overseas. They are only able to inspect something like...~2% of facilities in the states let alone incoming shipments from countries without the same food regulations.
Unfortunately for food manufacturers the food safety modernization act probably propelled this outsourcing. We have made it so difficult to produce product on our home soil I am not surprised. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM You would be amazed at how many of our frozen foods, including veggies, come from Asia and Mexico. Fish inspections for imports were turned over to the USDA in April, and in the first 2 weeks, they had rejected more Asian fish and seafood than the FDA had in 2 years. There have been many more shipments rejected since, and some ships turned around without docking rather than submit to inspections. Now congress wants to hand inspections back to the FDA over "budget concerns". Haha. While that is a plus, we cannot rely on government to monitor our food supply from overseas. They are only able to inspect something like...~2% of facilities in the states let alone incoming shipments from countries without the same food regulations. Unfortunately for food manufacturers the food safety modernization act probably propelled this outsourcing. We have made it so difficult to produce product on our home soil I am not surprised.
I read where someone said their husband worked for Green Giant and Green Giant moved a lot of their vegetable growing to Mexico because they can use the chemicals and pesticides there that have been banned in the US.
Over 20 years ago...we had a customer that use to sell used rubber belting from the US to Mexico's manufacturers. The belting no longer passed the codes here but did in Mexico. I think his main customer was Dole.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM You would be amazed at how many of our frozen foods, including veggies, come from Asia and Mexico. Fish inspections for imports were turned over to the USDA in April, and in the first 2 weeks, they had rejected more Asian fish and seafood than the FDA had in 2 years. There have been many more shipments rejected since, and some ships turned around without docking rather than submit to inspections. Now congress wants to hand inspections back to the FDA over "budget concerns". Haha. While that is a plus, we cannot rely on government to monitor our food supply from overseas. They are only able to inspect something like...~2% of facilities in the states let alone incoming shipments from countries without the same food regulations. Unfortunately for food manufacturers the food safety modernization act probably propelled this outsourcing. We have made it so difficult to produce product on our home soil I am not surprised.
The USDA inspects all meat processed in the US. Every carcass. That's why US fish producers pushed for years to hold imports to the same standard. I'm not sure what percent they're inspecting of the imported fish now (could be all, I don't know), but it's much higher than 2%. That was the FDA that was so lax. USDA is doing a much better job, which is why they have rejected so many shipments and making people mad. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 6:05 PM
Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM You would be amazed at how many of our frozen foods, including veggies, come from Asia and Mexico. Fish inspections for imports were turned over to the USDA in April, and in the first 2 weeks, they had rejected more Asian fish and seafood than the FDA had in 2 years. There have been many more shipments rejected since, and some ships turned around without docking rather than submit to inspections. Now congress wants to hand inspections back to the FDA over "budget concerns". Haha. While that is a plus, we cannot rely on government to monitor our food supply from overseas. They are only able to inspect something like...~2% of facilities in the states let alone incoming shipments from countries without the same food regulations. Unfortunately for food manufacturers the food safety modernization act probably propelled this outsourcing. We have made it so difficult to produce product on our home soil I am not surprised.
Yes. The USDA is on site for meat processing.
But that is one foodstuff.
They are not required to be on site for say... Cheese/Milk/Fruit/Etc.
My main point is that the government (USDA or FDA) will never be able to employ the manpower needed to inspect all products brought into the States. It is up to the manufacture to comply with the rules of the land.
"FDA inspects or samples less than 1 percent of all regulated products seeking entry into the United States".
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048631.htm
Soooooo... my solution? Keep production in the USA. Make it easier for major corporations to stay. |
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| 4 to 8 years ago hubby pulled a hopper bottom trailer. He often hauled "organic" soybeans to organic dairy farms. The place he loaded in Texas told him that something like 90% of organic soybeans used in this country are imported from China. So just how organic are those high dollar dairy products really?
I need to find locally grown chickens. Will start thinking about buying a half hog from someone, already get my beef from neighbor who fattens his own dairy steers, and boy is it yummy beef! Cannot even think about sore bought meat anymore , I am spoiled! |
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-09-25 1:16 PM
How horrible, I was told that fish and other meats that were shipped from over seas was trash and they did feed crap to fatten up their animals.
The Asian countries and their fake catfish raised in deplorable conditions have almost decimated the American catfish farmer. . . |
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Location: Ky | Frodo - 2016-09-25 4:13 PM Vickie - 2016-09-25 2:06 PM Buy American, the job you save may be your own. Support your Union, they work to keep jobs at home. Powerful and corrupt unions are the reason Detroit is dying and many of our vehicles are being built in Mexico.
No, the reason was Ronald Reagan anti worker policies and excecutive orders. Giving our tax dollars away to countries so they could take our obs and then making it Ok for them to do so. He weakened unions with one of his first orders in firing PATCO and allowing the government to hire scabs to replace them.
I get it that someone would hate the unions that support the working men and women of this country, that's why there's Trump voters. But blame goes where blame goes. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | jd&ez - 2016-09-26 7:50 AM Frodo - 2016-09-25 4:13 PM Vickie - 2016-09-25 2:06 PM Buy American, the job you save may be your own. Support your Union, they work to keep jobs at home. Powerful and corrupt unions are the reason Detroit is dying and many of our vehicles are being built in Mexico.
I get it that someone would hate the unions that support the working men and women of this country, that's why there's Trump voters. But blame goes where blame goes.
who do we blame for your stupidity?
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| I don't know about the rest of the article but the part about Smithfield is a lie.
Yes, Smithfield was purchased by China last year but it is business as usual for us and nothing has changed in the way we produce our product.
Hogs are not sent overseas, processed, and sent back. That would be pretty stupid and not very cost effective.
Don't believe everything on the internet. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2016-09-26 6:50 AM
Frodo - 2016-09-25 4:13 PM Vickie - 2016-09-25 2:06 PM Buy American, the job you save may be your own. Support your Union, they work to keep jobs at home. Powerful and corrupt unions are the reason Detroit is dying and many of our vehicles are being built in Mexico.
I get it that someone would hate the unions that support the working men and women of this country, that's why there's Trump voters. But blame goes where blame goes.
People like you and other liberal sycophants love to promote the false narrative that Reagan was responsible for the demise of the unions.
The fact of the matter is that Jimmy Carter created the paradigm for dealing with illegal strikes by public sector unions like PATCO. It was the Carter administration that developed the policy that would eventually be put into play during the illegal PATCO strike, including a plan for hiring scab replacements. All Regan did was muster the courage to pull the trigger and fire the striking air traffic controllers.
Also, for the record, subsequent to that PATCO strike, Regan was endorsed by many unions, including the Teamsters, in the subsequent 1984 election over Mondale.
All that aside, the decline of unions began well before Reagan. Corruption, thuggery, and cronyism led to the gradual decline of unions from their peak in the 1950's. At their peak, over 33% of American workers belonged to a union, and that number is now down to less than 10%. Like so many other organizations, unions have become a wing of the Democrat party, and that has fueled a lot of resentment amongst workers who do not want to see their union dues go toward an across-the-board support of Democrat politicians. |
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Location: MT | Bear - 2016-09-26 8:32 AM jd&ez - 2016-09-26 6:50 AM Frodo - 2016-09-25 4:13 PM Vickie - 2016-09-25 2:06 PM Buy American, the job you save may be your own. Support your Union, they work to keep jobs at home. Powerful and corrupt unions are the reason Detroit is dying and many of our vehicles are being built in Mexico.
I get it that someone would hate the unions that support the working men and women of this country, that's why there's Trump voters. But blame goes where blame goes. People like you and other liberal sycophants love to promote the false narrative that Reagan was responsible for the demise of the unions. The fact of the matter is that Jimmy Carter created the paradigm for dealing with illegal strikes by public sector unions like PATCO. It was the Carter administration that developed the policy that would eventually be put into play during the illegal PATCO strike, including a plan for hiring scab replacements. All Regan did was muster the courage to pull the trigger and fire the striking air traffic controllers. Also, for the record, subsequent to that PATCO strike, Regan was endorsed by many unions, including the Teamsters, in the subsequent 1984 election over Mondale. All that aside, the decline of unions began well before Reagan. Corruption, thuggery, and cronyism led to the gradual decline of unions from their peak in the 1950's. At their peak, over 33% of American workers belonged to a union, and that number is now down to less than 10%. Like so many other organizations, unions have become a wing of the Democrat party, and that has fueled a lot of resentment amongst workers who do not want to see their union dues go toward an across-the-board support of Democrat politicians.
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Location: MT | Wishful - 2016-09-26 8:03 AM I don't know about the rest of the article but the part about Smithfield is a lie. Yes, Smithfield was purchased by China last year but it is business as usual for us and nothing has changed in the way we produce our product. Hogs are not sent overseas, processed, and sent back. That would be pretty stupid and not very cost effective. Don't believe everything on the internet.
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Location: Windoming | Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 7:37 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 6:05 PM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM My main point is that the government (USDA or FDA ) will never be able to employ the manpower needed to inspect all products brought into the States. It is up to the manufacture to comply with the rules of the land. "FDA inspects or samples less than 1 percent of all regulated products seeking entry into the United States". http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048631.htm Soooooo... my solution? Keep production in the USA. Make it easier for major corporations to stay. |
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| I would love to buy farmers market produce, and local farm raised pork, beef, poltry, and dairy products. I honestly do not fully trust what is in our super markets anymore. I dont care for the production practices of mega farms. Im still going to eat meat but I would rather buy it from a farm where the animal lived like an animal, and was treated with a little respect. |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | No worries, when we loose our pollinators we won't have any fruits and veggies to be concerned about, over 40% of the honeybees lost in 14-15. But hey, keep spraying those pesticide's. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | justcruzin - 2016-09-26 10:45 AM No worries, when we loose our pollinators we won't have any fruits and veggies to be concerned about, over 40% of the honeybees lost in 14-15. But hey, keep spraying those pesticide's.
That is why Green Giant moved a lot of their operations to Mexico so they could use pesticides that they can't in the US. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 8:37 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 6:05 PM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM You would be amazed at how many of our frozen foods, including veggies, come from Asia and Mexico. Fish inspections for imports were turned over to the USDA in April, and in the first 2 weeks, they had rejected more Asian fish and seafood than the FDA had in 2 years. There have been many more shipments rejected since, and some ships turned around without docking rather than submit to inspections. Now congress wants to hand inspections back to the FDA over "budget concerns". Haha. While that is a plus, we cannot rely on government to monitor our food supply from overseas. They are only able to inspect something like...~2% of facilities in the states let alone incoming shipments from countries without the same food regulations. Unfortunately for food manufacturers the food safety modernization act probably propelled this outsourcing. We have made it so difficult to produce product on our home soil I am not surprised. Yes. The USDA is on site for meat processing. But that is one foodstuff. They are not required to be on site for say... Cheese/Milk/Fruit/Etc. My main point is that the government (USDA or FDA ) will never be able to employ the manpower needed to inspect all products brought into the States. It is up to the manufacture to comply with the rules of the land. "FDA inspects or samples less than 1 percent of all regulated products seeking entry into the United States". http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048631.htm Soooooo... my solution? Keep production in the USA. Make it easier for major corporations to stay.
Oh, you're right about the imports. I don't personally trust food imported from developing countries because you know their regulatory framework is lax even if they have regs in place. That's why I get so mad at the attitude of legislators, both federal and state, who are trying to make it extremely difficult for our farmers to stay in business and then say "well, let 3rd world countries grow the food since they can do it cheaper"...then we here at home get accused of poisoning people by the very consumers we're feeding even though we are producing the safest most abundant food supply in the world. Ugh.
Have y'all heard what California has done to their Ag industry in the last few months? They obviously are trying to drive Ag out of their state. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Wishful - 2016-09-26 9:03 AM I don't know about the rest of the article but the part about Smithfield is a lie. Yes, Smithfield was purchased by China last year but it is business as usual for us and nothing has changed in the way we produce our product. Hogs are not sent overseas, processed, and sent back. That would be pretty stupid and not very cost effective. Don't believe everything on the internet.
That hoax was going around about Tyson last year. I didn't know the details of the Smothfield deal, thanks for chiming in. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Silly Filly - 2016-09-26 9:49 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 7:37 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 6:05 PM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM My main point is that the government (USDA or FDA ) will never be able to employ the manpower needed to inspect all products brought into the States. It is up to the manufacture to comply with the rules of the land. "FDA inspects or samples less than 1 percent of all regulated products seeking entry into the United States". http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048631.htm Soooooo... my solution? Keep production in the USA. Make it easier for major corporations to stay. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | justcruzin - 2016-09-26 10:45 AM No worries, when we loose our pollinators we won't have any fruits and veggies to be concerned about, over 40% of the honeybees lost in 14-15. But hey, keep spraying those pesticide's.
That's bullcrap. Bee numbers are higher now than they have been in a decade. There have been losses, some from insecticides, but mostly from varroa mites and accompanying diseases. Beekeepers have replaced the losses and then some. Don't believe every crap thing you read on the internet. The scientific beekeeper is a great source for real bee info. |
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Location: Windoming | Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-26 10:25 AM Silly Filly - 2016-09-26 9:49 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 7:37 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 6:05 PM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM My main point is that the government (USDA or FDA ) will never be able to employ the manpower needed to inspect all products brought into the States. It is up to the manufacture to comply with the rules of the land. "FDA inspects or samples less than 1 percent of all regulated products seeking entry into the United States". http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048631.htm Soooooo... my solution? Keep production in the USA. Make it easier for major corporations to stay. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Wishful - 2016-09-26 9:03 AM I don't know about the rest of the article but the part about Smithfield is a lie. Yes, Smithfield was purchased by China last year but it is business as usual for us and nothing has changed in the way we produce our product. Hogs are not sent overseas, processed, and sent back. That would be pretty stupid and not very cost effective. Don't believe everything on the internet.
Thanks for setting the record straight on Smithfield. Now we need to hope that it never happens as the USDA did open the door to allow chicken to be shipped over to China and be processed although it has not happened..as of yet, but sure doesn't mean it won't. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Silly Filly - 2016-09-26 11:49 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-26 10:25 AM Silly Filly - 2016-09-26 9:49 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 7:37 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 6:05 PM Kry5ta1 - 2016-09-25 6:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-25 11:41 AM My main point is that the government (USDA or FDA ) will never be able to employ the manpower needed to inspect all products brought into the States. It is up to the manufacture to comply with the rules of the land. "FDA inspects or samples less than 1 percent of all regulated products seeking entry into the United States". http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm048631.htm Soooooo... my solution? Keep production in the USA. Make it easier for major corporations to stay. |
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Veteran
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| Welcome.... There have been no changes structurally nor has there been any personnel changes ether. We were never in a bind nor needed to be acquired to remain afloat. We are solid and have always been so... it just happened to be a good business move and also allowed us to expand more into overseas markets.
So we can take over the hog industry worldwide...muaahhhaaaaahha! (insert scary evil voice here) :)
just kidding
( no I am not...)
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 The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Its interesting to note that whenever there is an outbreak of high pathologic avain influenza in the poultry industry here in the U.S., even if its in one house in one state, or in a layer house (for eggs) instead of a grower house for meat, Mexico, Japan and China put an immediate embargo on U.S. Poultry - no exports to their country. Naturally that puts a financial hardship on the poultry industry and most importantly the growers in the U.S. I guess they think we are a nasty as we think their food is? |
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Member
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| Hello this has been going on for along time people where have you been almost all of our large farms are being sold to China |
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To the Left
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Location: Florida | The fact that the FDA has been defunded is a big part of the problem. The packing houses know that the odds of them being inspected are small. They feel safe cutting corners. |
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Voice of Reason
Location: NOT at Wal Mart | Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-26 9:29 AM justcruzin - 2016-09-26 10:45 AM No worries, when we loose our pollinators we won't have any fruits and veggies to be concerned about, over 40% of the honeybees lost in 14-15. But hey, keep spraying those pesticide's. That's bullcrap. Bee numbers are higher now than they have been in a decade. There have been losses, some from insecticides, but mostly from varroa mites and accompanying diseases. Beekeepers have replaced the losses and then some. Don't believe every crap thing you read on the internet. The scientific beekeeper is a great source for real bee info.
I typed a big reply then went to hit send and poof it went into
cyber space. This actually depends on what source you go with. I had five or six sources that said the Bee populations are declining in the US. And Harvard did a study correlating the use of pesticides to the loss of the honeybee. Whatever the case, I'm going to do my part by not using pesticides.
Edited by justcruzin 2016-09-26 6:55 PM
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2016-09-26 6:36 PM
The fact that the FDA has been defunded is a big part of the problem. The packing houses know that the odds of them being inspected are small. They feel safe cutting corners.
Where did you get that information, Vickie? Are you sure about that, or did you pull it out of your ass? The FDA budget in 2009 was about 2.5 billion, and by 2016 it had doubled. How do you define "defunded"?
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/23/call-off-the-bee-pocalypse-u-s-honeybee-colonies-hit-a-20-year-high/
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