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Location: south central usa | ...to weekend shows/rodeos/HS rodeos? Not talking about RV with bumper pull, but pulling horse trailer with truck and then an RV with another vehicle. In the process of debating between larger LQ or possibly the above option. Just started looking at used/newer bumper pull campers that can be bought for <$15k that would have more than twice the room of a larger LQ...any experiences? |
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| Keep in mind you'll be doubling your fuel costs. Also vehicle maintenance, tire wear, etc. Maybe not a big deal if you're staying pretty close to home...but if you're that close to home you might be better off just going home to sleep! Also, if parking is tight it's probably going to irritate others around you. And are you positive you will always have a second driver for the camper? Personal opinion, but if it were me I'd just bite the bullet and get a LQ. I think with what you'd end up spending on extra fuel and tires the cost savings would be negated. |
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Location: south central usa | Most are close – yet not close enough to drive home. Currently have a weekender LQ and the initial thought was to upgrade to a 10-12sw (prefer no slide as you cant get around in them with the slide in). Like most multiple day shows, there are times when there may be 3-4 hrs in between events with the day starting at 8am and ending around 8pm+. Have tried getting a motel room and it is just not as convenient as it seems – you are paying for a bed and that is it. The idea behind possibly a camper is it would allow for more room than a larger LQ while spending $15k instead of $30k+ ($30k on top of current trailer equity). Doing this would allow us to keep the current trailer that is a good run-around size and not have to haul a 40+ footer everywhere. At least that is the current thinking. |
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Location: in the ozone | Don't discount a slide ... I got an 8' wide trailer & it has a slide & there is PLENTY of room to do whatever w/o the slide put out. In fact, of all the times we've used it so far this year, have only had the slide out 2 of those times! |
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| I think that would be a pain to have to haul two rigs, I'd probably go with a larger LQ. Isn't it CRAZY how much CHEAPER campers are then LQ trailers? Big, fancy campers are 1/4th what a LQ horse trailer is. |
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Location: south central usa | Current trailer is an older Cimarron that is paid for and also used to haul roping cattle on occasion. Not too crazy about hauling a 12+sw trailer to the sale barn just to pick up a few calves so if we went the larger LQ direction, I can see the need for another trailer purchase on the horizon. As far as LQs go, we fall in the group that don’t like the idea of buying a 10yo trailer of equal quality (if financing is tight on a 10 yo trailer - how many buyers will be able to afford it when it is 15yrs old) which makes the next option to be buying a new(er) trailer that is possibly a lower quality brand. Agree that it would be an initial inconvenience of maintaining two rigs, but a rough guess would be that over half of the larger rigs already have a run around vehicle that is driven separately.
Appreciate the feedback
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | We are going through this as well...in the process of selling our trailer with a 13ft shortwall. I haul either alone a lot or with my SO and 2 kids and it was too big for just me and not big enough with them. We have thought about going the route of a camper pulling a horse trailer but finding one rated high enough to pull a horse trailer was getting big...and I wasn't sure I would be comfortable taking that when I'm alone. We also like to camp and thought about getting just a camper and either driving it seperate, getting something with a small LQ for when I haul alone and staying in a motel the times everyone goes. It's so hard!! Stuff is so expensive and I get sick of payments...so the internal battle continues. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Griz - 2016-09-30 5:39 AM I think that would be a pain to have to haul two rigs, I'd probably go with a larger LQ. Isn't it CRAZY how much CHEAPER campers are then LQ trailers? Big, fancy campers are 1/4th what a LQ horse trailer is.
They're 1/4 the workmanship and materials too. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | I'm sort of in the same boat as you right now. I'm looking at older LQ goosenecks or the possibility of just buying a cabover camper. |
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Location: Illinois | Have 2 friends who do that. If you have the funds by all means why not but to me I think it's double the wear and tear on your truck and double the fuel expense. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-09-30 2:40 PM
Griz - 2016-09-30 5:39 AM I think that would be a pain to have to haul two rigs, I'd probably go with a larger LQ. Isn't it CRAZY how much CHEAPER campers are then LQ trailers? Big, fancy campers are 1/4th what a LQ horse trailer is.
They're 1/4 the workmanship and materials too.
We have a fifth wheel and a LQ trailer, and you are absolutely correct!
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Location: south central usa | Good example of everybody having different viewpoints… I’d view "having the funds" to be more on the larger LQ side vs having a small trailer and a camper…bunch of numbers but just some thoughts keeping in mind current trailer is free and clear ….what it boils down to is how much is one willing to pay for convenience?
1. Camper would be financed at 4% -- $15k at 5yrs would be $275/mo. $40/trip in gas, so 2x/month would be $350ish/month in costs
2. “Quality” LQ trailer that is 8 yrs old $35k? or higher? At the low end, $35k at 5yrs (same 4%) would be $644/mo
3. New “Lakota” (seems to be the craze these days) at $45k, 7yrs at 4% is $615/mo
4. Buy nothing and two nights a weekend in a motel (2 wkds/mo) approx. $250
Not included in the trailer examples is the option of trading in current trailer ($15k in equity) but then having to buy another trailer for hauling livestock/ going smaller shows.
Agree that the structural quality of a camper vs LQ trailer in general is not comparable.
Camper would probably lose 50% of its value in 5yrs ($7500)
“quality” LQ trailer probably 15%-20% ($5-6k)
New entry level LQ trailer – probably 30% ($12-14k)
I tried to inflate some of the negative aspects of a camper and inflate the positive aspects of the trailers while not factoring in maintenance
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | runnink - 2016-10-03 11:36 AM Good example of everybody having different viewpoints… I’d view "having the funds" to be more on the larger LQ side vs having a small trailer and a camper…bunch of numbers but just some thoughts keeping in mind current trailer is free and clear ….what it boils down to is how much is one willing to pay for convenience? 1. Camper would be financed at 4% -- $15k at 5yrs would be $275/mo. $40/trip in gas, so 2x/month would be $350ish/month in costs 2. “Quality” LQ trailer that is 8 yrs old $35k? or higher? At the low end, $35k at 5yrs (same 4%) would be $644/mo 3. New “Lakota” (seems to be the craze these days) at $45k, 7yrs at 4% is $615/mo 4. Buy nothing and two nights a weekend in a motel (2 wkds/mo) approx. $250 Not included in the trailer examples is the option of trading in current trailer ($15k in equity) but then having to buy another trailer for hauling livestock/ going smaller shows. Agree that the structural quality of a camper vs LQ trailer in general is not comparable. Camper would probably lose 50% of its value in 5yrs ($7500) “quality” LQ trailer probably 15%-20% ($5-6k) New entry level LQ trailer – probably 30% ($12-14k) I tried to inflate some of the negative aspects of a camper and inflate the positive aspects of the trailers while not factoring in maintenance
This is exactly what we are going through and when we crunched the numbers came up to something similar. I am going to take the winter to decide what to do...it gets overwhelming. LOL.
I do like being able to stay where my horses are but keeping everything within reason on payments, using it enough to justify having it is where I am struggling. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | SO And I have agreed that once both of our daily driver vehicles are paid off we are buying a LQ trailer. He wants to buy a toy hauler with a LQ and I want to buy a horse trailer with a LQ. We are still split down the middle as of what to do. I have my trucks and trailer paid for. My trailer is a 90s model tank of a Sooner stock/horse trailer. Just a shell with a dog box in the nose. Upgraded gates and cut gates for working cattle but still "fancy" enough to haul to a race in and still "fit in". The rpoblem right now is we have 3 little girls. Very little girls. The truck is a very small place for them to play with the a/c running. SO is getting pretty tired of how small the truck is lol. So he wants to buy a LQ trailer for the girls to nap and play in. I just can't justify spending double in gas and maintence.
We have looked into a Class C motorcoach. But then we would have to find a bumper pull trailer. So there would be two notes, not one.
It's all so confusing and frustrating.
I see people pull seperate RVs to horse shows all the time.
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-03 2:10 PM
SO And I have agreed that once both of our daily driver vehicles are paid off we are buying a LQ trailer. He wants to buy a toy hauler with a LQ and I want to buy a horse trailer with a LQ. We are still split down the middle as of what to do. I have my trucks and trailer paid for. My trailer is a 90s model tank of a Sooner stock/horse trailer. Just a shell with a dog box in the nose. Upgraded gates and cut gates for working cattle but still "fancy" enough to haul to a race in and still "fit in". The rpoblem right now is we have 3 little girls. Very little girls. The truck is a very small place for them to play with the a/c running. SO is getting pretty tired of how small the truck is lol. So he wants to buy a LQ trailer for the girls to nap and play in. I just can't justify spending double in gas and maintence.
We have looked into a Class C motorcoach. But then we would have to find a bumper pull trailer. So there would be two notes, not one.
It's all so confusing and frustrating.
I see people pull seperate RVs to horse shows all the time.
Here's what you need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRb5M1tjj9k |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | barrelracer1983 - 2016-10-03 5:10 PM IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-03 2:10 PM SO And I have agreed that once both of our daily driver vehicles are paid off we are buying a LQ trailer. He wants to buy a toy hauler with a LQ and I want to buy a horse trailer with a LQ. We are still split down the middle as of what to do. I have my trucks and trailer paid for. My trailer is a 90s model tank of a Sooner stock/horse trailer. Just a shell with a dog box in the nose. Upgraded gates and cut gates for working cattle but still "fancy" enough to haul to a race in and still "fit in". The rpoblem right now is we have 3 little girls. Very little girls. The truck is a very small place for them to play with the a/c running. SO is getting pretty tired of how small the truck is lol. So he wants to buy a LQ trailer for the girls to nap and play in. I just can't justify spending double in gas and maintence.
We have looked into a Class C motorcoach. But then we would have to find a bumper pull trailer. So there would be two notes, not one.
It's all so confusing and frustrating.
I see people pull seperate RVs to horse shows all the time. Here's what you need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRb5M1tjj9k
Now THAT is an idea LOL   |
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How many haul horse trailer and also pull RV/camper...