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Location: Dubach, LA | Perusing the products but don't see one for respiratory problems. What am I looking for?
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Location: Dubach, LA | rodeomom3 - 2016-10-03 6:53 AM
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Location: North Dakota | I would contact Dr. Schell on the forum or through email. He will normally recommend Total and Immune together for 90 days and then just total after that but if there are some other factors he might suggest a different formula than Total. |
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Location: NE Texas | Yes, if your horse is a typical QH, you'll want to use the Total Support with Immune & Repair together for 90 days, then ideally maintain with just the Total Support. You may get some improvement with just the Total Support, but if you're dealing with allergies or COPD type symptoms, you really need to use the two products together for the full 90 days. I tried to cheat the 90 days when I first started based on the huge improvement I had the first 30 days when on both products and dropped the Immune & Repair early after about 45 days, but then had to go back and do the full 90 days. I still add in the Immune & Repair in July and August for a little extra support, as that is when my horse struggles the most. |
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| CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:58 AM Perusing the products but don't see one for respiratory problems. What am I looking for?
Have used both and prefer THE pulmoneze. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | kmcsunshine - 2016-10-03 1:57 PM
CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:58 AM Perusing the products but don't see one for respiratory problems. What am I looking for?
Have used both and prefer THE pulmoneze.
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Location: Dubach, LA | I must admit that I was slightly put off by the $100 consultation phone or email fee. If he is going to recommend his product and it cost a couple hundred a month, it looks like he could explain the need for the product for free. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:10 PM I must admit that I was slightly put off by the $100 consultation phone or email fee. If he is going to recommend his product and it cost a couple hundred a month, it looks like he could explain the need for the product for free.
Wow  they charge for a phone consuiltation or a email fee?!!!! Holy cow, boy glad I didnt bother to call and ask a few questions. I'll just stick with THE products, Krystal is so easy to talk with and its free, lol.. |
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| CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:10 PM I must admit that I was slightly put off by the $100 consultation phone or email fee. If he is going to recommend his product and it cost a couple hundred a month, it looks like he could explain the need for the product for free.
I emailed him about a horse I own , he responded with a lengthy email, answered all my questions, no mention of any fee. |
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| CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:10 PM
I must admit that I was slightly put off by the $100 consultation phone or email fee. If he is going to recommend his product and it cost a couple hundred a month, it looks like he could explain the need for the product for free.
I gave emailed him numerous times and asked questions on his secondvet.com and never had to pay a fee. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Hmm. On the website it gives instructions to set up a phone or email happy to discuss the products and your horse. Fee is $100 |
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| CanCan - 2016-10-03 6:43 PM Hmm. On the website it gives instructions to set up a phone or email happy to discuss the products and your horse. Fee is $100
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Location: Dubach, LA | rodeomom3 - 2016-10-03 7:34 PM
CanCan - 2016-10-03 6:43 PM Hmm. On the website it gives instructions to set up a phone or email happy to discuss the products and your horse. Fee is $100
I don't see that anywhere on the website
At the top. Where you would click to go back to the homepage. Curost secondary Dr. Shell. That click takes you to the page where you sign up to talk to him. |
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rodeomom3 - 2016-10-03 7:34 PM
CanCan - 2016-10-03 6:43 PM Hmm. On the website it gives instructions to set up a phone or email happy to discuss the products and your horse. Fee is $100
I don't see that anywhere on the website
At the top. Where you would click to go back to the homepage. Curost secondary Dr. Shell. That click takes you to the page where you sign up to talk to him.
Got it, that is for second vet, if you email about his products there is no charge. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Oh. That's better. Thanks. |
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Location: North Dakota | I bug him through email A LOT.. I'm probably pretty obnoxious to him lol but he always responds and very quickly most of the time. He is always happy to discuss the Cur-OST products and how they can benefit your horse. |
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Location: NE Texas | I have done the consultation, which is a bit more in depth than the regular emails I have exchanged with him. What the consultation does is allows him to start a file on your horse and his situation, then he has something to refer back on if there are setbacks or changes to what needs to be done with this particular horse. Have to remember that he is first and foremost a veterinarian, so this is clinical for him, and any slight change to a horse's condition, whether that be for the positive or negative, is noteworthy and worth documenting. Without the consultation, it's difficult for him to remember each specific case or individual i'm sure, as with any business, i'm sure there are hundreds of emails received daily from customers asking questions. I chose to do the consultation to receive a bit more targeted information for my specific case rather than a basic overview, and it's proved worth it, especially in the first year. It's similar to establishing a relationship with your current vet....while you may be able to call them and ask questions, they can't diagnose or give specialized information without being able to really evaluate the patient and track the changes, which isn't free. That's how I look at this with him. No, he isn't actually SEEING my horse, but I have sent videos, fecal samples for him to analyze, x-rays, pictures, etc. and have developed a relationship which I feel like is valuable to my program and if/when I encounter problems.
The products they sell are very high dosages and weren't originally developed as a business model, but rather by Dr. Schell himself trying to restore his own health after cancer treatment left him unable to work and provide for his family. The business is still very small consisting only of him, his wife, and their daughter. They aren't trying to be Platinum or Smartpak and sell to every single person out there. Their goal is to educate first and foremost so that owners begin to think of things from a different perspective and learn how many of these issues are tied together through inflammation and the hindgut. Their customers have come to them either by word of mouth or stumbling across them when researching on the internet for specific equine research on herbs, which is how I found them and then shared my experience here.
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | rodeomom3 - 2016-10-03 6:07 PM
CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:10 PM I must admit that I was slightly put off by the $100 consultation phone or email fee. If he is going to recommend his product and it cost a couple hundred a month, it looks like he could explain the need for the product for free.
I emailed him about a horse I own , he responded with a lengthy email, answered all my questions, no mention of any fee.
Same here. Answered all of my questions. My mare is like a different horse on the Total Support. |
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| CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:07 PM kmcsunshine - 2016-10-03 1:57 PM CanCan - 2016-10-03 5:58 AM Perusing the products but don't see one for respiratory problems. What am I looking for? Have used both and prefer THE pulmoneze. Why?
Results were more obvious and visible. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Again I think just like humans not every product works for every horse. I have one horse that cannot be given Bute , I have another that doesn't do well on the Cur-ost Total Support (loses weight almost immediately) but does well on EQ Plus, all 3 of mine actually get better results on the Green than they do the Pure. It was like when I was trying different products for CC and helping her negotiate life, Calming Cookies made her a zombie, but I could give them with great results to my other mare if needed. Another product Focus something or other made CC even worse, it actually seemed to make her focus on what worried her and she was an absolute basket case. It really is a process of finding what works for each horse. |
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| run n rate - 2016-10-04 1:34 PM
Again I think just like humans not every product works for every horse. I have one horse that cannot be given Bute , I have another that doesn't do well on the Cur-ost Total Support (loses weight almost immediately) but does well on EQ Plus, all 3 of mine actually get better results on the Green than they do the Pure. It was like when I was trying different products for CC and helping her negotiate life, Calming Cookies made her a zombie, but I could give them with great results to my other mare if needed. Another product Focus something or other made CC even worse, it actually seemed to make her focus on what worried her and she was an absolute basket case. It really is a process of finding what works for each horse.
You are so right! Technically, my gelding should be on Total and had been for 9 months with good results, but I ran out, however I had some EQ Plus, so I went with that and I think he is really doing better on that and Forco. When I know we are going to have high heat and no wind, Equisure is a must now, too. Seems to help with excessive sweating and four attitude- hey, maybe I should try some |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Cur-OST Total for my entire barn, I added Immune to my mare that struggled with Allergies prior to Cur-OST.
I have before and after pictures of my 5 horses over the length of a year. Pretty amazing!
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Location: sunny california | does anyone else have a cat that licks their hand after they come in from feeding the curost. even after washing my hands she smells it and licks like crazy they she gets mean and bites hard. even chases me. I am not joking here...but she is kinda a brat anyway but not like this |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I posted a few times about my horses but I'll post here as well, these are BEFORE Cur-OST, and a YEAR being ON Cur-OST. Their diets are 1.5 lbs of whole oats, 1/2 cup of whole flax, grass and alfalfa hay.
Palomino 12- struggled with allergies and pneumonia, went the allergy shot route and about every supplement under the sun. Pictures are pretty self explanatory. She is on Total and Immune.
Bays 5 and 8- no issues prior to starting Cur-OST, both on Total with adapt and calm when needed.
Gray- 24 year old and still competiting, just battling age. Started on Plus, moved to Total.
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Location: NE Texas | My dogs steal my stirring spoon if I leave it on a bucket or something low. They love the taste of it and yes, always want to lick my hands when I come in.
Here are my before and after pics. I had spent about $5000 at three different very competent vets in two different states over the course of about three months. My horse had exceeded all treatment options and safe levels of medications and was still unable to take a deep enough breath to cough even when on 10cc of Ventipulmin with Dex. We had done several rounds of anti-biotics, steroid shots, multiple scopes, nebulizers and breathing treatments, the list goes on and on and he continued to deteriorate. I was literally out of options and was advised to put my horse down, as per the vets, he would suffocate when it got hot and humid in his current condition. I began researching and through that found the Cur-OST products and got in touch with Dr. Schell via email. He explained to me in depth as to why the current therapies weren't effective and the course of action we needed to take. He continued to educate me and explain things to me (the world's biggest "product" skeptic) over the course of a couple of weeks and finally he said, "What do you have to lose???? Give me two weeks on these products and let's see what happens." I took the leap of faith and literally as a last resort bought my first bags of Cur-OST and haven't looked back since. In two weeks I was back to exercising this horse! And while his coughing had increased, at least he was coughing, and able to start getting the mucous and trash up and out of his lungs. After about the end of the two week mark, the coughing slowed and his breathing continued to improve. By the end of 30 days (see pics below) I was back to riding him and he continues to do well almost two years later! So thankful to have found these products and will be eternally grateful for them saving my horse!
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Location: Arkansas | Herbie - 2016-10-07 9:18 AM
My dogs steal my stirring spoon if I leave it on a bucket or something low. They love the taste of it and yes, always want to lick my hands when I come in.
Here are my before and after pics. I had spent about $5000 at three different very competent vets in two different states over the course of about three months. My horse had exceeded all treatment options and safe levels of medications and was still unable to take a deep enough breath to cough even when on 10cc of Ventipulmin with Dex. We had done several rounds of anti-biotics, steroid shots, multiple scopes, nebulizers and breathing treatments, the list goes on and on and he continued to deteriorate. I was literally out of options and was advised to put my horse down, as per the vets, he would suffocate when it got hot and humid in his current condition. I began researching and through that found the Cur-OST products and got in touch with Dr. Schell via email. He explained to me in depth as to why the current therapies weren't effective and the course of action we needed to take. He continued to educate me and explain things to me (the world's biggest "product" skeptic) over the course of a couple of weeks and finally he said, "What do you have to lose???? Give me two weeks on these products and let's see what happens." I took the leap of faith and literally as a last resort bought my first bags of Cur-OST and haven't looked back since. In two weeks I was back to exercising this horse! And while his coughing had increased, at least he was coughing, and able to start getting the mucous and trash up and out of his lungs. After about the end of the two week mark, the coughing slowed and his breathing continued to improve. By the end of 30 days (see pics below) I was back to riding him and he continues to do well almost two years later! So thankful to have found these products and will be eternally grateful for them saving my horse!
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My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
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Location: Arkansas | Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. |
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Location: NE Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 1:13 AM
Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period.
Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. :) I don't think you will be disappointed. |
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Location: NE Texas | Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
You have been so patient and so thorough in bringing your horse back. With all you've dealt with this year, I KNOW there are some huge blessings in your future! Can't wait to be your groom in Dallas! ;) |
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Location: North Dakota | My mare was diagnosed with heaves/COPD by my vet shortly after I purchased her. A friend of mine owned this horse from the time she was 3 till 9 and then sold her to a gentleman. I saw her a few times throughout the years he had her but never noticed anything out of the ordinary. I bought the mare from him when I found out she was for sale. I did not do a vet check as he was a nice guy with lots of money and figured she had been well taken care of. When I went to see her before purchasing I did not notice any breathing issues but she was also out of shape at the time and maybe that hide somethings. Not sure... So when I got her home, a few days after that I noticed some coughing and wheezing one day and then she was better the next. I thought maybe she caught a cold/resp infection due to it being winter here in ND and it was -5 as a high the day I brought her home. Long story short I went home extremely bummed from the vet the day I heard the diagnosis. My vet told me this horse would never be a performance horse and will be put down at an early age due to the progression of the disease. She was 12 at the time. I was sent home with Dex and a long acting steroid shot. We did a treatment of Dex and she improved breathing wise. I had bought her as a team penning/ranch sorting horse. I went to a few shows with her that summer and she was on dex most of the time we were on the road. She maintained I would say, never improved.
Fast forward to December 2015, I found a post on here about Cur-OST. At this time I had gone a few years with this horse always struggling to keep her maintained. I had tried tons of supplements and Dex and it was always a toss up as to what I was going to get each day with her. I had decided to try making her a barrel horse Sept 2015 but I couldn't get a consistent energy level out of her. She was dull, lazy and had more bad breathing days than good. I started her on Cur-OST middle of December 2015. It took about a week to notice she was suddenly more friendly.. about two weeks for her energy level to go up and about a month before she was breathing easier on a consistent basis. Like everyone else her coughing increased but it didn't seem to bother her like it had before. A few months in I had a totally different horse. She is a wild child and now has more energy than any horse on the property, she has a friendly personality and loves her job. She cotinued to improve everyday on Cur-OST. She had no dex or bronchodilators during the time she is on Cur-OST.
Jump to now..I recently had to go without any Cur-OST product for alittle over a month now due to financial reasons of being a college student and it caused things to spiral out of control.
I continued her conditioning and went to a few runs and quickly things started going south...Two weeks without Cur-OST and on just some bulk herbs and the bad started with her getting a resp infection. Treated with Uniprim, it seemed to get her back on track but I think the antibiotics messed up her belly and led to her colicing on Sept 15th and then she pretty much stopped eating after that. She would pick at hay and wouldn't touch her grain. She then got diarrhea and got dehydrated. To the vet we went and we dealing with low total protein level in bloodwork due to ulcers and severe diarrhea/gastrointestinal upset. She was put on Bio-sponge to stop diarrhea, probiotics and rest and I was advised to treat for ulcers with gastroguard. I decided to order Cur-OST again. Stomach formula and total support for now to get her back on track. I syringed the stomach formula into her mouth the first dose yesterday due to knowing she wouldn't eat it and did so again this morning. So then this morning after her dose I left her with hay and some grain and come back a few hours later and IT IS ALL GONE, every little speck! That is one day back on Cur-OST and my horse who has been barely eating for weeks is eating a full meal. Proof for me right there. She will never be without Cur-OST again. I will find a way to keep her on it because I have now realized just how important it is for her.
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Location: Arkansas | Herbie - 2016-10-08 6:18 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 1:13 AM
Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. : ) I don't think you will be disappointed.
Thanks, Herbie. Ill be in touch before long to get your advice.
Just read MidWest post and it just makes me even more excited to try this product!!
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I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. : ) I don't think you will be disappointed.
Thanks, Herbie. Ill be in touch before long to get your advice.
Just read MidWest post and it just makes me even more excited to try this product!!
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Location: North Dakota | Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 6:59 PM
Herbie - 2016-10-08 6:18 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 1:13 AM
Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. : ) I don't think you will be disappointed.
Thanks, Herbie. Ill be in touch before long to get your advice.
Just read MidWest post and it just makes me even more excited to try this product!!
Chandler's Mom--Not sure if I missed it somewhere but what are the issues to cause your horse to be retired??
I have another success story about Cur-OST involving my older gelding who is now sound again thanks to cur-OST. This stuff really works and now that I've had to be without it I will never be without it again. It is truly amazing.
----ETA a couple pictures.
First one is before Cur-OST on top and bottom was after 7 months on total and Immune.
Second picture is showing how much this last month has taken it's toll on her. Top was when she was on Cur-OST back in August I think and the bottom was taken this past weekend. All her mass is gone. Poor girl but she is on the mend thank goodness!
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Location: Arkansas | MidWest1452 - 2016-10-08 8:06 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 6:59 PM
Herbie - 2016-10-08 6:18 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 1:13 AM
Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. : ) I don't think you will be disappointed.
Thanks, Herbie. Ill be in touch before long to get your advice.
Just read MidWest post and it just makes me even more excited to try this product!!
Chandler's Mom--Not sure if I missed it somewhere but what are the issues to cause your horse to be retired??
I have another success story about Cur-OST involving my older gelding who is now sound again thanks to cur-OST. This stuff really works and now that I've had to be without it I will never be without it again. It is truly amazing.
----ETA a couple pictures.
First one is before Cur-OST on top and bottom was after 7 months on total and Immune.
Second picture is showing how much this last month has taken it's toll on her. Top was when she was on Cur-OST back in August I think and the bottom was taken this past weekend. All her mass is gone. Poor girl but she is on the mend thank goodness!
Thank you Tmain, and that's my thoughts exactly---nothing ventured, nothing gained.
MidWest, she is post legged and between the conformation issue and hard use before we got her, it has taken its toll. Her fetlocks have sunk, for lack of a better word. Dr Hopkins said she would be fine to toodle around on the farm, but he said he wouldn't ride her on trails or barrels anymore because it just wasn't fair to her. I'd never do anything to hurt her, so she's been my pasture pet since then! When she gets up after laying down for awhile, she's very stiff and takes her a minute or two to get going. She will run and buck and kick with the boys in the herd and never show any pain except for when she first gets up.
I also have a 37 year old gelding that has arthritis and the usual aches and pains that come with being that old----would Cur-oust benefit him too?
All of these pictures everyone has posted are just amazing. . . . |
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Location: North Dakota | Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 10:04 PM
MidWest1452 - 2016-10-08 8:06 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 6:59 PM
Herbie - 2016-10-08 6:18 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 1:13 AM
Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. : ) I don't think you will be disappointed.
Thanks, Herbie. Ill be in touch before long to get your advice.
Just read MidWest post and it just makes me even more excited to try this product!!
Chandler's Mom--Not sure if I missed it somewhere but what are the issues to cause your horse to be retired??
I have another success story about Cur-OST involving my older gelding who is now sound again thanks to cur-OST. This stuff really works and now that I've had to be without it I will never be without it again. It is truly amazing.
----ETA a couple pictures.
First one is before Cur-OST on top and bottom was after 7 months on total and Immune.
Second picture is showing how much this last month has taken it's toll on her. Top was when she was on Cur-OST back in August I think and the bottom was taken this past weekend. All her mass is gone. Poor girl but she is on the mend thank goodness!
Thank you Tmain, and that's my thoughts exactly---nothing ventured, nothing gained.
MidWest, she is post legged and between the conformation issue and hard use before we got her, it has taken its toll. Her fetlocks have sunk, for lack of a better word. Dr Hopkins said she would be fine to toodle around on the farm, but he said he wouldn't ride her on trails or barrels anymore because it just wasn't fair to her. I'd never do anything to hurt her, so she's been my pasture pet since then! When she gets up after laying down for awhile, she's very stiff and takes her a minute or two to get going. She will run and buck and kick with the boys in the herd and never show any pain except for when she first gets up.
I also have a 37 year old gelding that has arthritis and the usual aches and pains that come with being that old----would Cur-oust benefit him too?
All of these pictures everyone has posted are just amazing. . . .
I don't think you will be disappointed. My 23 year old gelding was lame last summer/fall. He could barely walk around, he was barely pasture sound. He was on daily previcox and still miserable. He had also had several rounds of injections with no improvement. I started him on Cur-OST in Jan 2016 and by this spring he was back to his spunky younger self and he hasn't missed a beat yet. He deserves to retire happy and as pain free as possible and thanks to Cur-OST he is able to do that. He was also without Cur-OST for a couple months now and has maintained for the most part but I am trying to decide if I will put him on a low dose of the Plus formula or maybe even try the Green formula on him just to keep it economical for me but make sure he stays feeling good. |
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Location: Arkansas | MidWest1452 - 2016-10-08 10:18 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 10:04 PM
MidWest1452 - 2016-10-08 8:06 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 6:59 PM
Herbie - 2016-10-08 6:18 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-10-08 1:13 AM
Tmain - 2016-10-07 10:21 PM
I can chime in- my changes have nothing to do with looks but in inflammation.
My horse had an infection in the navicular bursa from an IRAP treatment for another injury. He had so much inflammation in the foot during/after treatment his hoof actually turned purple the whole way around the foot. He has no changes in his X-rays or by ultrasound, so structurally the foot is fine. He was released home on a bottle of Banamine a week for pain.
We have passed the 8 month mark of his release and he is about 90% sound at this point. Upon his reset of shoes this week we found another bruise at his heel. We are hoping that this is about the last of the bruising in the foot from treatment.
He was off the Banamine after less than 30 days of Cur-Ost Pure. He was still lame but tolerable without pain medication.
His 30 day evaluation brought great joy not only for mr but to the vet team that had cared for him during his month long stay. He was released to me but they were not optomistic for his survival.
He is now returning at 90 day increments and the next visit should be released to conditioning for competition. I have been released to light ride at a walk for some time- we jog on his sound days and they are becoming more frequent.
His case is quite bizarre with the amount of inflammation that settled in his foot. We have consulted with 2 other clinics in the US and one in England during this and nothing like this has been documented there either.
This is something that has a very poor prognosis and he is beating the odds.
I'll throw in another WOW on this one, too, Tmain!! Chandler's mare has been retired per vet's orders, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't try the Cur-Oust to help her out. . . . Right now she's on Platinum CJ and I love it, but y'all have such basically miraculous stories (especially you and Herbie ) that I'm sorely tempted to switch over and see what happens. . .
What's the rough cost per horse a month? I believe there's a loading dose for so long and then you lower the amount? Just wondering what it would run after that initial period. Chandlers mom, it's difficult for me to post on bhw from my phone, but if you want to FB message me or give me a call, I'd be happy to try to advise as to which products would be best for your horse. I will say that I feel like the clean diet is also very instrumental in getting the best results and maintaining them. : ) I don't think you will be disappointed.
Thanks, Herbie. Ill be in touch before long to get your advice.
Just read MidWest post and it just makes me even more excited to try this product!!
Chandler's Mom--Not sure if I missed it somewhere but what are the issues to cause your horse to be retired??
I have another success story about Cur-OST involving my older gelding who is now sound again thanks to cur-OST. This stuff really works and now that I've had to be without it I will never be without it again. It is truly amazing.
----ETA a couple pictures.
First one is before Cur-OST on top and bottom was after 7 months on total and Immune.
Second picture is showing how much this last month has taken it's toll on her. Top was when she was on Cur-OST back in August I think and the bottom was taken this past weekend. All her mass is gone. Poor girl but she is on the mend thank goodness!
Thank you Tmain, and that's my thoughts exactly---nothing ventured, nothing gained.
MidWest, she is post legged and between the conformation issue and hard use before we got her, it has taken its toll. Her fetlocks have sunk, for lack of a better word. Dr Hopkins said she would be fine to toodle around on the farm, but he said he wouldn't ride her on trails or barrels anymore because it just wasn't fair to her. I'd never do anything to hurt her, so she's been my pasture pet since then! When she gets up after laying down for awhile, she's very stiff and takes her a minute or two to get going. She will run and buck and kick with the boys in the herd and never show any pain except for when she first gets up.
I also have a 37 year old gelding that has arthritis and the usual aches and pains that come with being that old----would Cur-oust benefit him too?
All of these pictures everyone has posted are just amazing. . . .
I don't think you will be disappointed. My 23 year old gelding was lame last summer/fall. He could barely walk around, he was barely pasture sound. He was on daily previcox and still miserable. He had also had several rounds of injections with no improvement. I started him on Cur-OST in Jan 2016 and by this spring he was back to his spunky younger self and he hasn't missed a beat yet. He deserves to retire happy and as pain free as possible and thanks to Cur-OST he is able to do that. He was also without Cur-OST for a couple months now and has maintained for the most part but I am trying to decide if I will put him on a low dose of the Plus formula or maybe even try the Green formula on him just to keep it economical for me but make sure he stays feeling good.
I'm seriously thinking I'm gonna try it for Two and Dan. They deserve for me to try and see if it works for them like it has for y'all. I appreciate everyone's stories and pictures. |
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