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slacy09
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 OK, people can bash away but I gotta admit, I'm surprised at how nonchalant bb are about this election.  It makes me sad, I can't think about barrel racing or anything else but the outcome of this election.  If Hillary wins, our country will be in total upheaval, there will be no more hobbies....we will be living just to survive.  I don't think people realize how BAD it will be.  I really would like to see Texas succeed if she wins!!  
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If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.

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outrundaizy
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-10-12 9:40 AM
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Just throwing it out there, but do people really think Trump is a GOOD option? Or just the better option?

Im truly worried about what will happen if either of them..  To me it seems like this might all be a set up 
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.

How so? I'd rather have him in office than a lying snake like killary. She will raise taxes, she's corrupt, a KNOWN liar and many other things.

While trump is far from perfect, and tends to have diaherra of the mouth....I'd much rather use my vote on him because he actually has shown america what he plans to put in place for our country....and is sure as hell is 10x better than what that snake will do to our country.  
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slacy09
Reg. Nov 2005
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hoofs_in_motion - 2016-10-12 9:42 AM
SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.
How so? I'd rather have him in office than a lying snake like killary. She will raise taxes, she's corrupt, a KNOWN liar and many other things.



While trump is far from perfect, and tends to have diaherra of the mouth....I'd much rather use my vote on him because he actually has shown america what he plans to put in place for our country....and is sure as hell is 10x better than what that snake will do to our country.  

^this 
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Reg. Oct 2011
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outrundaizy - 2016-10-12 9:40 AM

Just throwing it out there, but do people really think Trump is a GOOD option? Or just the better option?

Im truly worried about what will happen if either of them..  To me it seems like this might all be a set up 

I have always thought this was a set up from the start. Trump and the Clinton have been mingling for some time. He has donated to their shady foundation as well.
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slacy09
Reg. Nov 2005
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.

Not being rude, just askin....Trump is scarier to you then the refugees (terrorists) and illegals that will be allowed in our country anytime??  These people that cut off heads, rape, murder etc don't scare you more than Trump?  Because they will infiltrate our country with open borders that Hillary will allow!  
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outrundaizy
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-10-12 9:51 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2016-10-12 9:42 AM
SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.
How so? I'd rather have him in office than a lying snake like killary. She will raise taxes, she's corrupt, a KNOWN liar and many other things.



While trump is far from perfect, and tends to have diaherra of the mouth....I'd much rather use my vote on him because he actually has shown america what he plans to put in place for our country....and is sure as hell is 10x better than what that snake will do to our country.  

How stupid can you be though to know that you are so close to having the most respectable job in the world, to be one of the highest powered world leader.... He just cannot keep his **** mouth shut, how has he not learned that if he wasn't such a jack a$$ he would have won this thing by miles. 

I sure as heck do not want hillary to win. Trump isn't stupid, but he is acting like he is.
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Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-10-12 9:55 AM
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:48 AM
outrundaizy - 2016-10-12 9:40 AM Just throwing it out there, but do people really think Trump is a GOOD option? Or just the better option?



Im truly worried about what will happen if either of them..  To me it seems like this might all be a set up 
I have always thought this was a set up from the start. Trump and the Clinton have been mingling for some time. He has donated to their shady foundation as well.

Exactly.. If you aren't sketched out by this whole ordeal than you are just too scared to see that this very well could be a major set up and we are screwed. It also might not be and I would rather take my chance on trump, but no one can honestly say it isn't fishy. Those two have been friends a long time.  
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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-10-12 9:57 AM
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He is throwing his campaign. I suspect he has to go as low as he is going because Hillary has such low approval ratings. Historically low I might add.
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Posted 2016-10-12 10:06 AM
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slacy09 - 2016-10-12 10:48 AM

SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.

Not being rude, just askin....Trump is scarier to you then the refugees (terrorists) and illegals that will be allowed in our country anytime??  These people that cut off heads, rape, murder etc don't scare you more than Trump?  Because they will infiltrate our country with open borders that Hillary will allow!  

I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.

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Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2016-10-12 10:11 AM
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 I'm just blown away by this, the supporters of Killary have no conscience apparently, and how Trump made it this far???? I still like Ben Carson - I'm surprised that he didn't make it farther.  Trump at least hasn't killed anyone, or sold anyone down the river.  The other problem is that we will lose any credibility with the middle eastern countries with a woman at the helm.  They have no value/use for women as a general rule, and will not respect her.  Trump .... well?  Heck I don't know?? but I'd rather him be the president verses her..... she's a viper to the core - Evil personified. 
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SloRide
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-10-12 10:14 AM
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LAC - 2016-10-12 10:06 AM

slacy09 - 2016-10-12 10:48 AM

SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.

Not being rude, just askin....Trump is scarier to you then the refugees (terrorists) and illegals that will be allowed in our country anytime??  These people that cut off heads, rape, murder etc don't scare you more than Trump?  Because they will infiltrate our country with open borders that Hillary will allow!  

I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.


I agree that refugees are an issue. While most of them are just trying to get out of the way it is providing terrorists a way into other countries. Germany shot themselves in the foot by not properly vetting refugees. And poor France:( These people were just trying to do a good thing, the right thing by helping people and it is hurting them badly. It angers me deeply.

Do I think countries should take in refugees, sure. If they want to take them in go for it. But people must be vetted and it will take time to do that properly.

In regards to the larger picture I think we should get out of the Middle East but that is now incredibly complicated by the fact that we are currently in a proxy war with Russia.
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Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-10-12 10:20 AM
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Trump Train all the way ! Choo Choo!

I don't agree with Trump 100%. Not even 90%. But I don't agree with even 0.0000001% of what Hillary has to say. She's a pawn in a game. She is told what to say, what to believe and what to do. Trump has no one to tell him what to do. THis is why he is considered a wild card in most poloticians books. They can't control him with money, posessions, blackmail, anything. He isn't interested in being a pawn. And that scares the heck out of our goverenment.

Ask anyone voting for Hillary and they will all say the same thing: Trump is unpredictable and has no experience. Ask them if they agree with Hillary and they will say no. But they will vote for her because Trump hurt their feelings. All the while Hillary is having peeople disappear, killed, or kept silent. 

Don't even get me started on her stating that: "I believe that the unborn child has no constitutional rights up until actual birth or due date." Snake. Makes my blood boil. I find it very unsettling that Planned Parenthood gives out the birth control pill in droves to young children with no parental approval all the while knowing they won't use it correctly and will end up pregnant. Once they go in for an abortion, Planned Parenthood makes Billions off the sale of the innocent baby. They give the girl who came in more birth control, and the cycle continues. I am not going to be forced as a tax payer to pay for that vicious cycle again. Nope. I refuse. Texas has already stated it will Secede. 
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Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-10-12 10:23 AM
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Lucylouwon - 2016-10-12 10:11 AM  I'm just blown away by this, the supporters of Killary have no conscience apparently, and how Trump made it this far???? I still like Ben Carson - I'm surprised that he didn't make it farther.  Trump at least hasn't killed anyone, or sold anyone down the river.  The other problem is that we will lose any credibility with the middle eastern countries with a woman at the helm.  They have no value/use for women as a general rule, and will not respect her.  Trump .... well?  Heck I don't know?? but I'd rather him be the president verses her..... she's a viper to the core - Evil personified. 

I would love to have a woman as the president. I think it would make an extremely positive andpowerful change for all women. I would hate to be represented by a woman like Hillary. 
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Posted 2016-10-12 10:30 AM
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slacy09 - 2016-10-12 10:32 AM  OK, people can bash away but I gotta admit, I'm surprised at how nonchalant bb are about this election.  It makes me sad, I can't think about barrel racing or anything else but the outcome of this election.  If Hillary wins, our country will be in total upheaval, there will be no more hobbies....we will be living just to survive.  I don't think people realize how BAD it will be.  I really would like to see Texas succeed if she wins!!  

Secede 

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Posted 2016-10-12 10:34 AM
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Lucylouwon - 2016-10-12 10:11 AM  I'm just blown away by this, the supporters of Killary have no conscience apparently, and how Trump made it this far???? I still like Ben Carson - I'm surprised that he didn't make it farther.  Trump at least hasn't killed anyone, or sold anyone down the river.  The other problem is that we will lose any credibility with the middle eastern countries with a woman at the helm.  They have no value/use for women as a general rule, and will not respect her.  Trump .... well?  Heck I don't know?? but I'd rather him be the president verses her..... she's a viper to the core - Evil personified. 
I would love to have a woman as the president. I think it would make an extremely positive andpowerful change for all women. I would hate to be represented by a woman like Hillary.

I would support a woman as president.... Just NOT her.  There are far too many amazing women out there that arenot Horrid, Evil, Lecherous etc.  However as a "World Power" we have to make the right statement to the Middle East, and she's a statement allright.... Just a VERY bad one.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-10-12 10:36 AM
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outrundaizy - 2016-10-12 10:55 AM
SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:48 AM
outrundaizy - 2016-10-12 9:40 AM Just throwing it out there, but do people really think Trump is a GOOD option? Or just the better option?



Im truly worried about what will happen if either of them..  To me it seems like this might all be a set up 
I have always thought this was a set up from the start. Trump and the Clinton have been mingling for some time. He has donated to their shady foundation as well.
Exactly.. If you aren't sketched out by this whole ordeal than you are just too scared to see that this very well could be a major set up and we are screwed. It also might not be and I would rather take my chance on trump, but no one can honestly say it isn't fishy. Those two have been friends a long time.  

he may be acting like a lot of things.

But stupid is not one ot them. 

That man has a huge ego, but he wealthy beyond belief and is not used to losing because he rarely does. When you spend your life winning an ego is usually part of the package. 

 
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 Also have to ask. 


How is a woman President empowering to all women? 
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Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2016-10-12 11:02 AM
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It seems every election the sky is going to fall and every election it doesn't.  When Obama got elected I heard both times I might as well forget about barrel racing.  First four years we went through a rough patch and now things are cycling back around and we are doing good.  I'm glad we didn't spend a forture on stock piling stuff.
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Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-10-12 11:13 AM
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Honestly, when Obama was up for election eight years ago, all the Chicken Littles were running around talking about America ending.

Well, my life hasn't really changed a whole lot, except maybe got more expensive. My taxes took a 3% hike, I lost my company health insurance and went to private health insurance.

I can see the most important thing that might affect me is the national debt and a new set of court judges could indirectly change something for our laws on the ground.

I despise Clinton. Trump makes me nervous. I'm voting Republican because I think the Dems will just keep adding to the national debt, but not because I think my daily life will truly be affected.


I'd love to wake up after Election Day and find out Trump is in and Hillary fled the country to avoid arrest.
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-10-12 11:16 AM
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I don't even have to think twice about who I want in our White House. Have you read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States???? All gone with Killary. GONE! We will be unable to wipe our asses without government permits. The below is a copy and paste. My comment is this. How could ANYONE vote for her?
I guess some people need another fact check. What I’m about to tell you are only the facts – historical facts, not rumors, not hearsay just plain undeniable facts.
(This is only a small percentage of a much longer list)
Of the two candidates running for president:
Only Hillary Clinton was caught lying to congress.
Only Hillary Clinton was fired from a job for being unethical.
Only Hillary Clinton ordered the deletion of over 30 thousand emails after she was ordered to hand the server containing them over to the Feds.
Only Hillary Clinton got the rapist of a teenage girl off on rape charges and then laughed about it during an interview.
Only Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about Benghazi.
Only Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about her emails.
Only Hillary Clinton lied about being under sniper fire after landing in Bosnia.
Only Hillary Clinton lied about actually lying to the American people.
Only Hillary Clinton was involved in “Cash Cow “
Only Hillary Clinton nationally belittled her husband’s sexual harassment (and rape) accusers.
Only Hillary Clinton is a career politician.
Only Hillary Clinton will not release her speeches to Goldman Sachs and other banks.
Only Hillary Clinton is tied to Monsanto.
Only Hillary Clinton was labeled “Extremely careless “about national security by the FBI.
Only Hillary Clinton said she will raise taxes on the middle class. Surprising right? Watch the speech.
Only Hillary Clinton benefited from the DNC rigging an election. Bernie never had a chance.
Only Hillary Clinton had to return stolen items from the White House.
Only Hillary Clinton said the Benghazi victim’s parents were lying.
Only Hillary Clinton wants you to vote for her based on her gender.
Only Hillary Clinton has been investigated by the FBI and found to have put national security at risk.
Only Hillary Clinton made congress and others spend millions and millions of tax dollars having hearings and investigating her to find that she lied, that would not have been spent if she would have simply told the truth in the first place! Fact – all facts!
Only Hillary Clinton regularly cussed out and belittled her Secret Service detail.
But you are going to vote for her because…. you don’t like Donald Trump? That is insane!
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-10-12 11:18 AM
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1DSoon - 2016-10-12 11:37 AM Also have to ask. 


How is a woman President empowering to all women? 
You are so right!!did I say that?YES!!!IM A FEMALE.having a woman president and saying it empowers woman is pure idiocity.woman better wake up and wake up NOW.Hitlery(what I call her)is gonna damage your families horribly.Have you folks voting for her seen the money she raised for Haiti during the last disaster???hmmm....neither did Haiti.Are any of you hitlery voters Catholic???she don't like you either.PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND STOP JUST BEING A DAM DEMOCRAT.TRUMP ISNT THE BEST OF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD...BUT HE HAS NOT BEEN AN EVIL AMERICAN TERRORIST.EVEN HER CHAMPAIGN SIGNS LOOK LIKE TWIN TOWERS WItH AN AIRPLANE FLYING THROUGH IT!!!!!!AS EARL PITTS SAYS...WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!! Oh..yes demeaning to woman...whatever....woman play the card.....Megan Kelly is one of them.

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Reg. Apr 2011
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jake16 - 2016-10-12 11:18 AM
1DSoon - 2016-10-12 11:37 AM Also have to ask. 





How is a woman President empowering to all women? 
You are so right!!did I say that?YES!!!IM A FEMALE.having a woman president and saying it empowers woman is pure idiocity.woman better wake up and wake up NOW.Hitlery(what I call her)is gonna damage your families horribly.Have you folks voting for her seen the money she raised for Haiti during the last disaster???hmmm....neither did Haiti.Are any of you hitlery voters Catholic???she don't like you either.PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND STOP JUST BEING A DAM DEMOCRAT.TRUMP ISNT THE BEST OF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD...BUT HE HAS NOT BEEN AN EVIL AMERICAN TERRORIST.EVEN HER CHAMPAIGN SIGNS LOOK LIKE TWIN TOWERS WItH AN AIRPLANE FLYING THROUGH IT!!!!!!AS EARL PITTS SAYS...WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!! Oh..yes demeaning to woman...whatever....woman play the card.....Megan Kelly is one of them.

well said 
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Reg. Nov 2005
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1DSoon - 2016-10-12 10:30 AM

slacy09 - 2016-10-12 10:32 AM  OK, people can bash away but I gotta admit, I'm surprised at how nonchalant bb are about this election.  It makes me sad, I can't think about barrel racing or anything else but the outcome of this election.  If Hillary wins, our country will be in total upheaval, there will be no more hobbies....we will be living just to survive.  I don't think people realize how BAD it will be.  I really would like to see Texas succeed if she wins!!  

Secede 

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 Yeah yeah I think I know. I was typing quickly. Again let's focus on the big picture.
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1DSoon - 2016-10-12 10:30 AM
slacy09 - 2016-10-12 10:32 AM  OK, people can bash away but I gotta admit, I'm surprised at how nonchalant bb are about this election.  It makes me sad, I can't think about barrel racing or anything else but the outcome of this election.  If Hillary wins, our country will be in total upheaval, there will be no more hobbies....we will be living just to survive.  I don't think people realize how BAD it will be.  I really would like to see Texas succeed if she wins!!  
Secede 



You have to know what it is, before you can do it. 




 
 Yeah yeah I think I know. I was typing quickly. Again let's focus on the big picture.

Like using the right words?

 
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1DSoon - 2016-10-12 8:37 AM

 Also have to ask. 


How is a woman President empowering to all women? 

Good question. ^^^

I'm a woman in my 60's. I've worked for women. I hated it. Backstabbing *****es; most of them. I could care less if a woman is EVER elected president. I want the most qualified person to run the country. Chances are it won't ever be a woman.
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I am not a political person and although I try and be informed, it is so hard to find unbiased information.

My two cents, Hillary seems rehearsed and she has experience but has done very little in her years in politics. Trump is a jerk with some balls... Although I like his attitude in ways (I tend to be bold), I am afraid his arrogance might interfere.

I know I will get flamed but I don't even want to vote. I don't feel good about voting for either party. And as mad as that makes a lot of people, I know I am not the only one feeling that way.
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Lucylouwon - 2016-10-12 10:11 AM  I'm just blown away by this, the supporters of Killary have no conscience apparently, and how Trump made it this far???? I still like Ben Carson - I'm surprised that he didn't make it farther.  Trump at least hasn't killed anyone, or sold anyone down the river.  The other problem is that we will lose any credibility with the middle eastern countries with a woman at the helm.  They have no value/use for women as a general rule, and will not respect her.  Trump .... well?  Heck I don't know?? but I'd rather him be the president verses her..... she's a viper to the core - Evil personified. 

 Ben Carson misstepped, the media crucified him, decided he was done, and proceeded to ignore him.   And because he didn't fight back dirty to get himself back in, some decided he lacked backbone.  My husband and I voted for him in the primary even though we knew he wouldn't win.  
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I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.


Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.
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I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.
Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.

 Not racist. Bigoted against a religion, nothing to do with race. And may I add, bigotry in this instance does have justification?  Not saying all Muslims are bad, but their culture and beliefs are very very different (and ugly)  in regards to women. 
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I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.
Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.

Racist?  I think you are confusing Religion with Race = two different things.  Study the Koran and the culture of Islam, if you have more than three brain cells to rub together it will scare you.   Islam is not peaceful they are a religion of hate.  Women are worse than dogs in their religion.
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slacy09 - 2016-10-12 10:32 AM  OK, people can bash away but I gotta admit, I'm surprised at how nonchalant bb are about this election.  It makes me sad, I can't think about barrel racing or anything else but the outcome of this election.  If Hillary wins, our country will be in total upheaval, there will be no more hobbies....we will be living just to survive.  I don't think people realize how BAD it will be.  I really would like to see Texas succeed if she wins!!  
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Yes using the right words is definitely the big picture...and THAT is what is wrong with the people of our country! 
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I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.
Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.
How is this racist?  It's truth...in other countries they treat their women like dirt.   Just because they move somewhere doesn't mean they won't treat their women like dirt.  Does it mean they'll treat American's like dirt....Who really knows?  I mean, there have been multiple Islamic terrorist threats and actions (Miami, San Bernadino, etc.) so who's to say if a whole lot of them come over here they won't join together?  Maybe they'll all be good little democratic sheep and do exactly as our govt. says.  Maybe not.  There ARE Good muslim people.  But that doesn't mean they all are.   Just like any race.

I'm voting for Trump.  Killary scares me to death.  I can't handle our country getting any worse.  


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I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.


Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.

Yes it tough when we are dealing with drastically different ends of the spectrum. It's important to recognize that not all people from the ME think this way. The hard core conservatives do unfortunately and their children are educated in a manner that promotes this line of thinking. The younger generation is balking at this way of thinking now and it has created backlash in the ME. That is why places like Saudi Arabia and Iran are becoming so oppressive. They know they are starting to lose their foothold on the younger generation.
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 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM

 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  

Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM

 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  

Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.

Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time.

Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck.

The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.

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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM

 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  

Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.

Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time.

Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck.

The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.

It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)
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 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  

Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.

Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time.

Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck.

The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.

It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)

Thank you for that correction!
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I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.
Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.

I'm pretty sure you don't understand what that word means

 
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California Ag already paid overtime for over 60 hours a week, and Ag wasn't the only industry exempted from the 40 hour work week law. Between this and the minimum wage hike, water issues, and other taxes and regulations that make it more difficult to compete with other states, much less other countries, the industry is facing some tough choices. I just recently learned that putting a flat bed on a pickup in CA makes it a commercial vehicle. How stupid is that? That's just one example of many of how out of touch those people are.

Ag as a whole in the US survives by innovation and efficiency, while at the same time being one of the more environmentally protective countries. Can we improve? Sure. And we're getting better every year. Many practices that improve sustainability and benefit the environment also provide economic incentives. But dumbass policies and regulations that cut the legs from beneath us will eventually make it impossible to survive. Several politicians (all Dems, incidentally) have been heard to say we don't need Ag here anyway because that's what 3rd world countries are for. Really? REALLY?
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 12:27 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM  Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  
Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.
Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time. Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck. The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.
It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)

 I'm salary on $6,000 a year, so that can't be a federal law. 
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM  Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  
Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.
Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time. Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck. The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.
It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)

 I'm salary on $6,000 a year, so that can't be a federal law. 

I was wrong, it is $47476. It is federal though. I'm not sure why you are getting paid salary for $6000. You should take that up with your employer. Maybe they are exempt for some reason. It doesn't go into effect until Dec 1st 2016. Maybe you will get a raise soon!

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it kills me when people say he isnt fit to be president.  and he is so scary.
have you ever watched one of his speaches on the campaign trail?
for years i /we have all wanted a canidate not beholdin to the large donor.  We have a canidate funding the majority of his campaign.  (what canidate in recent history has done that?)  we have a canidate who understands the tax code, who understands foreign and domestic trade.  who understands we cant be financially insolvent any longer.  we have a canidate who will stop the influx of immigrants who are taxing our resources.  

in the end all we can do is vote our conscious.  we have to live with that every day after.   
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM  Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  
Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.
Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time. Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck. The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.
It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)

 I'm salary on $6,000 a year, so that can't be a federal law. 

I was wrong, it is $47476. It is federal though. I'm not sure why you are getting paid salary for $6000. You should take that up with your employer. Maybe they are exempt for some reason.

It is federal law, but there are different amounts for different states and regions, and there are several "classifications" that can change it. It effected me in KS and I got a letter explaining the minimums, including several examples of different state's thresholds. I lost my salary classification and had to start getting an hourly wage (figured out to be equal to my salary) and am now paid overtime for anything over 40 hours, which is discouraged by our HR.
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:37 AM If Hillary wins it will be business as usual and while I do not think that is necessarily a good thing, the Trump option is far scarier to me. Don't get me wrong, we need change, major change but we need the right kind of change. Trump is a hot **** mess and this country deserves better than both of what these two candidates have to offer.
Not being rude, just askin....Trump is scarier to you then the refugees (terrorists) and illegals that will be allowed in our country anytime??  These people that cut off heads, rape, murder etc don't scare you more than Trump?  Because they will infiltrate our country with open borders that Hillary will allow!  
I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.

i different the jews  in israel do not believe that  arabs muslims yes   jews no 
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cyount2009
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 1:33 PM California Ag already paid overtime for over 60 hours a week, and Ag wasn't the only industry exempted from the 40 hour work week law. Between this and the minimum wage hike, water issues, and other taxes and regulations that make it more difficult to compete with other states, much less other countries, the industry is facing some tough choices. I just recently learned that putting a flat bed on a pickup in CA makes it a commercial vehicle. How stupid is that? That's just one example of many of how out of touch those people are. Ag as a whole in the US survives by innovation and efficiency, while at the same time being one of the more environmentally protective countries. Can we improve? Sure. And we're getting better every year. Many practices that improve sustainability and benefit the environment also provide economic incentives. But dumbass policies and regulations that cut the legs from beneath us will eventually make it impossible to survive. Several politicians (all Dems, incidentally) have been heard to say we don't need Ag here anyway because that's what 3rd world countries are for. Really? REALLY?

That's interesting.  I am a secretary at a preschool and have to do income varrifications.  One of our applicant's father is a farm worker and the paystub they submitted had 128 hours for a two week period with no overtime.  Is/was there exemptions for farms according to the amount of employees they have?
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Dinero10
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Posted 2016-10-12 2:13 PM
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 I haven't read all the posts - however,
My view point -

SHE IS THE SCARIEST -
SHE LIES,
CAN'T EVEN SAVE AN EMBASSY, HOW IS SHE GOING TO PROTECT THE USA - 600 requests for help - all ignored
LIES - TO THE BENGHAZI PEOPLE THAT IT WAS DUE TO A VIDEO - SHE DIDN'T HAVE ***** TO TELL THE TRUTH to these families
CLINTON FOUNDATION - "PAY TO PLAY"
WHY WOULD YOU DELETE 33,000 EMAILS AND THEN HAVE YOUR INTERNS ALL TAKE THE 5TH - ???????????
DON'T KNOW WHAT "C" IS IN CLASSFIED CORRESPONDENCE
WANTS TO IMPEMENT A 65% ESTATE TAX ON FAMILY FARMS/RANCHES
WANTS TO IMPLEMENT A 550% IN IMMIGRATION -  (SOME NEED TO STUDY THE BIBLE, )
SHE WANTS TO IMPLEMENT A  A NATIONWIDE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND GET RID OF  THIS HEALTH CARE.
She want to get rid of the coal miners -

BLAST TO THE PAST - SHE LOST HER LAWYERS LICENSE SHE HAD A HAND IN BILL LOSING HIS
SHE DEFENEDED  THE GUY WHO RAPED A 12 OLD GIRL  AND WON, LAUGHING .............(AND she is for women, some of you women need to wisen up, and get your big girl panties on.  SHe gets in, our western way of life will disappear......slowly )

If I did my job the way she has for the gov't I would have been in prison..  Like Mr. Trump said, some people have done 1/5 and lost their careers, and she is now running for the highest office .............. I don't get it....

she is not for womens right -  I forgot i'm one of the deplorables and now a redneck...........thank you.... i will wear that with pride.

Look how she was underhanded with Bernie and the DNC helped her - and some want her for president.......

Mr. Trump is not perfect, you aren't perfect, I'm not perfect - but at least he is not afraid to say what needs to be said and point out
what is happening.  Folks , we are living in a financial bubble.............. I beleive that - I feel he can some what help fix it.... wouldn't it be nice
if all those folks who want to work could find a job - provide for their families,   less gov't programs,,,, workers paying taxes, and on, and on...
he wants energy dependence, lift all the EPA regs,  lower taxes.........

I'm voting TRUMP/PENCE

if she gets in - my view is welcome to the new world order.

















 

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vjls
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morequestions - 2016-10-12 12:59 PM
I have to agree. The refugees scare the heck out of me. They do things that are absolutely horrible but it is accepted in their culture as the norm. A man from Israel that my husband works with said that if a woman goes into a store and has a tank top or shorts on they believe that it is ok for them to rape her. So what happens when they come over to our country and are around your daughter? They are still going to believe those things are ok because that is what they have been taught to believe.
Wow. This is the most blatantly racist thing I've read in a while.

May be you need to see what german women have and are going thru germany had to put hot dos and don.t for the refuue men they were assualting german women 

same in paris  they are  not  like us  do not have the same value and don/t want too 
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slacy09
Reg. Nov 2005
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Dinero10 - 2016-10-12 2:13 PM  I haven't read all the posts - however,

My view point -



SHE IS THE SCARIEST -

SHE LIES,

CAN'T EVEN SAVE AN EMBASSY, HOW IS SHE GOING TO PROTECT THE USA - 600 requests for help - all ignored

LIES - TO THE BENGHAZI PEOPLE THAT IT WAS DUE TO A VIDEO - SHE DIDN'T HAVE ***** TO TELL THE TRUTH to these families

CLINTON FOUNDATION - "PAY TO PLAY"

WHY WOULD YOU DELETE 33,000 EMAILS AND THEN HAVE YOUR INTERNS ALL TAKE THE 5TH - ???????????

DON'T KNOW WHAT "C" IS IN CLASSFIED CORRESPONDENCE

WANTS TO IMPEMENT A 65% ESTATE TAX ON FAMILY FARMS/RANCHES

WANTS TO IMPLEMENT A 550% IN IMMIGRATION -  (SOME NEED TO STUDY THE BIBLE, )

SHE WANTS TO IMPLEMENT A  A NATIONWIDE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND GET RID OF  THIS HEALTH CARE.

She want to get rid of the coal miners -



BLAST TO THE PAST - SHE LOST HER LAWYERS LICENSE SHE HAD A HAND IN BILL LOSING HIS

SHE DEFENEDED  THE GUY WHO RAPED A 12 OLD GIRL  AND WON, LAUGHING .............(AND she is for women, some of you women need to wisen up, and get your big girl panties on.  SHe gets in, our western way of life will disappear......slowly )



If I did my job the way she has for the gov't I would have been in prison..  Like Mr. Trump said, some people have done 1/5 and lost their careers, and she is now running for the highest office .............. I don't get it....



she is not for womens right -  I forgot i'm one of the deplorables and now a redneck...........thank you.... i will wear that with pride.



Look how she was underhanded with Bernie and the DNC helped her - and some want her for president.......



Mr. Trump is not perfect, you aren't perfect, I'm not perfect - but at least he is not afraid to say what needs to be said and point out

what is happening.  Folks , we are living in a financial bubble.............. I beleive that - I feel he can some what help fix it.... wouldn't it be nice

if all those folks who want to work could find a job - provide for their families,   less gov't programs,,,, workers paying taxes, and on, and on...

he wants energy dependence, lift all the EPA regs,  lower taxes.........



I'm voting TRUMP/PENCE



if she gets in - my view is welcome to the new world order.


































 

The new world order....which will bring on the 7 year tribulations.....folks we are in the end times.  I think she will win because things are not falling apart, they are falling into place.  I do believe Trump can win if God wants America to have another chance...other than that it will be Hillary.  I believe our generation will see the 2nd coming of Christ! 
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OregonBR
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It seems every election the sky is going to fall and every election it doesn't.  When Obama got elected I heard both times I might as well forget about barrel racing.  First four years we went through a rough patch and now things are cycling back around and we are doing good.  I'm glad we didn't spend a forture on stock piling stuff.

Have you ever heard of the frog and the boiling water?

The parable of the boiled frog helps us to understand what is happening to the world. Since when to ranchers get murdered for standing up for personal property rights. Since when do "protesters" have the right to shoot police? These things are all gradually happening to those around us. But it's not happening to us, so we don't speak out. We don't sense the danger of our freedoms being stripped one at a time.

Suppose you want to boil a frog. How do you do it? You could place the frog into a pot of hot water, but as soon as it feels the heat, it will jump out. So, what can you do? Put a pot of cool water on the stove and then add the frog. Not sensing danger the frog will stay. Next, turn the burner on low to slowly heat the water. As the water warms, the frog relaxes. The warmth feels good. As the water gets hotter it acts like a steam bath draining away energy and deepening the frog's relaxation. The frog becomes sleepy and has less and less energy while the water is getting hotter and hotter. By the time the frog realizes its danger, the water is beginning to boil, and it is too late to take action. There is neither time nor energy left to do anything. The frog perishes in the boiling water.

What is the moral of the story? Be vigilant. Don't let unexpected change creep up on you. Don't become a "boiled frog." Pay close attention to what is going on around you, so that you can notice when the "water" is getting hot. We are actually there now.


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Dirt Dobber
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Posted 2016-10-12 3:23 PM
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Dirt Dobber - 2016-10-12 9:02 AM It seems every election the sky is going to fall and every election it doesn't.  When Obama got elected I heard both times I might as well forget about barrel racing.  First four years we went through a rough patch and now things are cycling back around and we are doing good.  I'm glad we didn't spend a forture on stock piling stuff.
Have you ever heard of the frog and the boiling water? The parable of the boiled frog helps us to understand what is happening to the world. Since when to ranchers get murdered for standing up for personal property rights. Since when do "protesters" have the right to shoot police? These things are all gradually happening to those around us. But it's not happening to us, so we don't speak out. We don't sense the danger of our freedoms being stripped one at a time. Suppose you want to boil a frog. How do you do it? You could place the frog into a pot of hot water, but as soon as it feels the heat, it will jump out. So, what can you do? Put a pot of cool water on the stove and then add the frog. Not sensing danger the frog will stay. Next, turn the burner on low to slowly heat the water. As the water warms, the frog relaxes. The warmth feels good. As the water gets hotter it acts like a steam bath draining away energy and deepening the frog's relaxation. The frog becomes sleepy and has less and less energy while the water is getting hotter and hotter. By the time the frog realizes its danger, the water is beginning to boil, and it is too late to take action. There is neither time nor energy left to do anything. The frog perishes in the boiling water. What is the moral of the story? Be vigilant. Don't let unexpected change creep up on you. Don't become a "boiled frog." Pay close attention to what is going on around you, so that you can notice when the "water" is getting hot. We are actually there now.

Those four years that we hit a rough patch were the worst of my adult life.  We came back from it with a faith and peace that what will happen will and there is a reason for it all.  I quit worrying and live each day without the what ifs.  

Thank you for sharing.
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Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2016-10-12 3:25 PM
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 8:48 AM
outrundaizy - 2016-10-12 9:40 AM Just throwing it out there, but do people really think Trump is a GOOD option? Or just the better option?



Im truly worried about what will happen if either of them..  To me it seems like this might all be a set up 
I have always thought this was a set up from the start. Trump and the Clinton have been mingling for some time. He has donated to their shady foundation as well.

I too have wondered if this was a set up.  Not that Trump is helping Clinton.  I believe the way the Media went after the other Republican candidates, or set them up against Trump, looks like Trump is the one they wanted to run against Hillary.  Now they have turned on Trump, just to hand it over to Hillary.  Don't know how anyone in good conscience could honestly believe she would be good for the country, considering her track record.  JMO
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cyount2009 - 2016-10-12 2:09 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 1:33 PM California Ag already paid overtime for over 60 hours a week, and Ag wasn't the only industry exempted from the 40 hour work week law. Between this and the minimum wage hike, water issues, and other taxes and regulations that make it more difficult to compete with other states, much less other countries, the industry is facing some tough choices. I just recently learned that putting a flat bed on a pickup in CA makes it a commercial vehicle. How stupid is that? That's just one example of many of how out of touch those people are. Ag as a whole in the US survives by innovation and efficiency, while at the same time being one of the more environmentally protective countries. Can we improve? Sure. And we're getting better every year. Many practices that improve sustainability and benefit the environment also provide economic incentives. But dumbass policies and regulations that cut the legs from beneath us will eventually make it impossible to survive. Several politicians (all Dems, incidentally) have been heard to say we don't need Ag here anyway because that's what 3rd world countries are for. Really? REALLY?
That's interesting.  I am a secretary at a preschool and have to do income varrifications.  One of our applicant's father is a farm worker and the paystub they submitted had 128 hours for a two week period with no overtime.  Is/was there exemptions for farms according to the amount of employees they have?

 I don't know if there are size exemptions. That's just what I read when I heard about the new 40 hour law that was passed and will go into effect next year.   
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OregonBR - 2016-10-12 2:31 PM
Dirt Dobber - 2016-10-12 9:02 AM It seems every election the sky is going to fall and every election it doesn't.  When Obama got elected I heard both times I might as well forget about barrel racing.  First four years we went through a rough patch and now things are cycling back around and we are doing good.  I'm glad we didn't spend a forture on stock piling stuff.
Have you ever heard of the frog and the boiling water? The parable of the boiled frog helps us to understand what is happening to the world. Since when to ranchers get murdered for standing up for personal property rights. Since when do "protesters" have the right to shoot police? These things are all gradually happening to those around us. But it's not happening to us, so we don't speak out. We don't sense the danger of our freedoms being stripped one at a time. Suppose you want to boil a frog. How do you do it? You could place the frog into a pot of hot water, but as soon as it feels the heat, it will jump out. So, what can you do? Put a pot of cool water on the stove and then add the frog. Not sensing danger the frog will stay. Next, turn the burner on low to slowly heat the water. As the water warms, the frog relaxes. The warmth feels good. As the water gets hotter it acts like a steam bath draining away energy and deepening the frog's relaxation. The frog becomes sleepy and has less and less energy while the water is getting hotter and hotter. By the time the frog realizes its danger, the water is beginning to boil, and it is too late to take action. There is neither time nor energy left to do anything. The frog perishes in the boiling water. What is the moral of the story? Be vigilant. Don't let unexpected change creep up on you. Don't become a "boiled frog." Pay close attention to what is going on around you, so that you can notice when the "water" is getting hot. We are actually there now.

Those four years that we hit a rough patch were the worst of my adult life.  We came back from it with a faith and peace that what will happen will and there is a reason for it all.  I quit worrying and live each day without the what ifs.  

Thank you for sharing.

I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to obsess about the election. I wish I could get back to obsessing about horses again. But I'm really afraid and I believe I have a good reason to be so. I just know who I'm voting for is the best option.....Trump. No contest.

After that, we can try to get some of our freedoms back from the overreaching federal government one at a time. But we need a conservative supreme court above all else. Without the right to protect ourselves (2nd amendment), we have no other rights either.
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I've pretty much said bye to barrel racing. My income hasn't matched the huge jump in fuel, trucks, entries, and horses in the last eight years.
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
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my take home income is the same as it was 10 yrs ago. got cuts then got a measly raise to go back to original salary but now i pay more for insurance. Thanks Obama. I also have huge deductables that I did not have before.
 before Obama I paid about $8 bale of hay now it is almost double
I REMEMBER A POST ON HERE BEFORE OBAMA GOT ELECTED 

everyone was saying what they fed and tone was very matter of fact... everyone posted how they used the best feed, best supplements and best tack; just would not sacrifice quality! I remember chuckling that would end soon and then i saw posts about cutting costs and saving money later, getting more jobs and having gardens.


there were tons of posts of board buddies going to sales and buying prospects or just buying prospects, then we had posts about people cutting their numbers, selling off, and not breeding as much. Also not as many posts about new saddles...

I know people that are not going to races anymore some are just selling out. i see starving animals  that i never saw before. i mean really who can not afford to feed a dog.  So manmy people are on foodstamps these days. There are so many homeless people I really do not know how some live in a bubble and think nothing is different.

GEEZE LOOK AROUND THE CARS ARE GETTING REALLY OLD!  i used to see so many new cars i have the same truck and car as I did before obama they are both 12 yrs old. i always had them replaced at 6-8 yr intervals

 
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my take home income is the same as it was 10 yrs ago. got cuts then got a measly raise to go back to original salary but now i pay more for insurance. Thanks Obama. I also have huge deductables that I did not have before.
 before Obama I paid about $8 bale of hay now it is almost double
I REMEMBER A POST ON HERE BEFORE OBAMA GOT ELECTED 

everyone was saying what they fed and tone was very matter of fact... everyone posted how they used the best feed, best supplements and best tack; just would not sacrifice quality! I remember chuckling that would end soon and then i saw posts about cutting costs and saving money later, getting more jobs and having gardens.


there were tons of posts of board buddies going to sales and buying prospects or just buying prospects, then we had posts about people cutting their numbers, selling off, and not breeding as much. Also not as many posts about new saddles...

I know people that are not going to races anymore some are just selling out. i see starving animals  that i never saw before. i mean really who can not afford to feed a dog.  So manmy people are on foodstamps these days. There are so many homeless people I really do not know how some live in a bubble and think nothing is different.

GEEZE LOOK AROUND THE CARS ARE GETTING REALLY OLD!  i used to see so many new cars i have the same truck and car as I did before obama they are both 12 yrs old. i always had them replaced at 6-8 yr intervals

 

I see this too, but I do not think it is the current Presidents fault. This stuff was going on before he ever got elected. We have major economic issues and they have not gotten any better under Obama. Wages have stalled since the 70's. Trickle down economics is not working and we are heading for a future where there will simply be fewer jobs to go around. Even if we do bring back more manufacturing, there will still not be enough to go around because so much of manufacturing is automated now. I think in the future, having a job will be a privilege.
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 8:04 PM
kwanatha - 2016-10-12 6:46 PM my take home income is the same as it was 10 yrs ago. got cuts then got a measly raise to go back to original salary but now i pay more for insurance. Thanks Obama. I also have huge deductables that I did not have before.

 before Obama I paid about $8 bale of hay now it is almost double

I REMEMBER A POST ON HERE BEFORE OBAMA GOT ELECTED 



everyone was saying what they fed and tone was very matter of fact... everyone posted how they used the best feed, best supplements and best tack; just would not sacrifice quality! I remember chuckling that would end soon and then i saw posts about cutting costs and saving money later, getting more jobs and having gardens.





there were tons of posts of board buddies going to sales and buying prospects or just buying prospects, then we had posts about people cutting their numbers, selling off, and not breeding as much. Also not as many posts about new saddles...



I know people that are not going to races anymore some are just selling out. i see starving animals  that i never saw before. i mean really who can not afford to feed a dog.  So manmy people are on foodstamps these days. There are so many homeless people I really do not know how some live in a bubble and think nothing is different.



GEEZE LOOK AROUND THE CARS ARE GETTING REALLY OLD!  i used to see so many new cars i have the same truck and car as I did before obama they are both 12 yrs old. i always had them replaced at 6-8 yr intervals


 
I see this too, but I do not think it is the current Presidents fault. This stuff was going on before he ever got elected. We have major economic issues and they have not gotten any better under Obama. Wages have stalled since the 70's. Trickle down economics is not working and we are heading for a future where there will simply be fewer jobs to go around. Even if we do bring back more manufacturing, there will still not be enough to go around because so much of manufacturing is automated now. I think in the future, having a job will be a privilege.

 Mother Earth News?

 
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1DSoon - 2016-10-12 8:40 PM

SloRide - 2016-10-12 8:04 PM
kwanatha - 2016-10-12 6:46 PM my take home income is the same as it was 10 yrs ago. got cuts then got a measly raise to go back to original salary but now i pay more for insurance. Thanks Obama. I also have huge deductables that I did not have before.

 before Obama I paid about $8 bale of hay now it is almost double

I REMEMBER A POST ON HERE BEFORE OBAMA GOT ELECTED 



everyone was saying what they fed and tone was very matter of fact... everyone posted how they used the best feed, best supplements and best tack; just would not sacrifice quality! I remember chuckling that would end soon and then i saw posts about cutting costs and saving money later, getting more jobs and having gardens.





there were tons of posts of board buddies going to sales and buying prospects or just buying prospects, then we had posts about people cutting their numbers, selling off, and not breeding as much. Also not as many posts about new saddles...



I know people that are not going to races anymore some are just selling out. i see starving animals  that i never saw before. i mean really who can not afford to feed a dog.  So manmy people are on foodstamps these days. There are so many homeless people I really do not know how some live in a bubble and think nothing is different.



GEEZE LOOK AROUND THE CARS ARE GETTING REALLY OLD!  i used to see so many new cars i have the same truck and car as I did before obama they are both 12 yrs old. i always had them replaced at 6-8 yr intervals


 
I see this too, but I do not think it is the current Presidents fault. This stuff was going on before he ever got elected. We have major economic issues and they have not gotten any better under Obama. Wages have stalled since the 70's. Trickle down economics is not working and we are heading for a future where there will simply be fewer jobs to go around. Even if we do bring back more manufacturing, there will still not be enough to go around because so much of manufacturing is automated now. I think in the future, having a job will be a privilege.

 Mother Earth News?

 

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1DSoon
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SloRide - 2016-10-12 9:49 PM
1DSoon - 2016-10-12 8:40 PM
SloRide - 2016-10-12 8:04 PM
kwanatha - 2016-10-12 6:46 PM my take home income is the same as it was 10 yrs ago. got cuts then got a measly raise to go back to original salary but now i pay more for insurance. Thanks Obama. I also have huge deductables that I did not have before.

 before Obama I paid about $8 bale of hay now it is almost double

I REMEMBER A POST ON HERE BEFORE OBAMA GOT ELECTED 



everyone was saying what they fed and tone was very matter of fact... everyone posted how they used the best feed, best supplements and best tack; just would not sacrifice quality! I remember chuckling that would end soon and then i saw posts about cutting costs and saving money later, getting more jobs and having gardens.





there were tons of posts of board buddies going to sales and buying prospects or just buying prospects, then we had posts about people cutting their numbers, selling off, and not breeding as much. Also not as many posts about new saddles...



I know people that are not going to races anymore some are just selling out. i see starving animals  that i never saw before. i mean really who can not afford to feed a dog.  So manmy people are on foodstamps these days. There are so many homeless people I really do not know how some live in a bubble and think nothing is different.



GEEZE LOOK AROUND THE CARS ARE GETTING REALLY OLD!  i used to see so many new cars i have the same truck and car as I did before obama they are both 12 yrs old. i always had them replaced at 6-8 yr intervals


 
I see this too, but I do not think it is the current Presidents fault. This stuff was going on before he ever got elected. We have major economic issues and they have not gotten any better under Obama. Wages have stalled since the 70's. Trickle down economics is not working and we are heading for a future where there will simply be fewer jobs to go around. Even if we do bring back more manufacturing, there will still not be enough to go around because so much of manufacturing is automated now. I think in the future, having a job will be a privilege.
 Mother Earth News?



 
Bill Gates

I don't know exacly what he said, but if your paraphrase was accurate you're both as wrong as any two people can be

 
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I would like to hear a few people explain how "trickle down economics" does not work. In fact, I'd like to hear them explain what trickle down economics actually is.
Everyone on the left keeps parroting how "trickle down" didn't work.
Maybe my idea of trickle down is too simplistic, so someone please teach me.
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outrundaizy - 2016-10-12 9:40 AM Just throwing it out there, but do people really think Trump is a GOOD option? Or just the better option?

Im truly worried about what will happen if either of them..  To me it seems like this might all be a set up 
I have always thought this was a set up from the start. Trump and the Clinton have been mingling for some time. He has donated to their shady foundation as well.
I too have wondered if this was a set up.  Not that Trump is helping Clinton.  I believe the way the Media went after the other Republican candidates, or set them up against Trump, looks like Trump is the one they wanted to run against Hillary.  Now they have turned on Trump, just to hand it over to Hillary.  Don't know how anyone in good conscience could honestly believe she would be good for the country, considering her track record.  JMO
I have thought from the very beginning it was a setup...we had an African-American President, now they are poising us for a woman President. It isn't being racist or sexist, its just how I see it. If you look back through the history books, African-Americans were granted rights before women were in this country, and it is just the order of business. 

 

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Bear - 2016-10-12 8:03 PM

I would like to hear a few people explain how "trickle down economics" does not work. In fact, I'd like to hear them explain what trickle down economics actually is.
Everyone on the left keeps parroting how "trickle down" didn't work.
Maybe my idea of trickle down is too simplistic, so someone please teach me.

I'm not going to explain how it doesn't work because it does.

Here's the way it works in the horse industry. Just one segment. Person gets good job. Always wanted a racehorse. Person has enough expendable income to buy a racehorse. ETA: Breeder or pinhook (person who buys weanlings or yearlings to resell) gets money for their horse and invests it back into their operation. Stud fees get paid, mares are purchased, re-bred and fed, vets are used. Handlers, stall cleaners, farm help are all hired and paid, etc....

Person pays trainer to train racehorse. Trainer pays people to care for the horse, grooms, riders to gallop and work the horse, pony people escort the horse to and from the gate or the track for work. At least 3 people have their hands on the horse on any given day. Maybe more.

There are always at least 2 if not more retail tack stores that supply the horsemen with all the OTC meds and goods they need specific to the racetrack. Bridles, wraps, buckets, etc... ETA: Feed suppliers. Racetrack Vets supply services and prescription drugs.

Trainer enters the horse in races. The racing facility pays their office staff to co-ordinate race conditions, take entries and the bookkeepers to keep the horsemen's accounts correctly. Gate staff and clocker take care of the morning workout records. those records are compiled and transferred to the Daily Racing Form to publish. There are many office staff to support the main staff.

Race day staff check the lip for the tattoo all racehorses have (which was applied at the track by someone), make sure the right horse is being run. The horse is saddled usually requiring 3 people for each horse. Pony people lead the horse on a groomed track (tractor drivers- at least 2) to the gate where the starter and the gate crew (10 people on hand at least) load them. The track vet oversees the process to make sure all horses and people appear healthy. The ambulance and crew stand by in case someone is hurt during the on-track process.

Jockeys get paid to ride horse. Betters bet on the horse. There are several windows open to take bets. Some are automated, many are staffed by people. The IT staff make sure everything behind the scenes is working correctly along with janitors and maintenance people who fix anything that isn't working.

ETA: Congratulations your horse won. So you get to have your picture taken by the track photographer who then sells you as many copies of you and your horse as you need to brag with. lol The money you won in the race is added to your horseman's account by the bookkeeper. You could decide this is fun and buy a second racehorse with it or just let it ride. You have to pay taxes on that money to the state and federal gov. Oops more money to your tax accountant too.

When the race is over, the winner and one other horse is usually taken to the test barn where other staff wait for the horse to be bathed and cooled out to collect urine and sometimes blood for testing, it's sent to the test lab. Where other people test it for known drugs.

Track staff take the race results and send that to the DRF for publishing and to the breed associations for their use. Still other people send the state who is overseeing the correct reporting of winnings. The state gets a cut of the "handle" (the dollars the bettors bet on the races).

I may have left something out, but you can see how many jobs can be created by a good economy or eliminated by a depressed economy, where people are just trying to get by. The amount of money that is trickled down is enormous. The money isn't spend once and gone. It's spent several times before it's out of the system. It's as hard to understand how people can think it doesn't work. It's especially easy to see how it works in an industry like horses that is a luxury.

My own experience is that material goods have at least doubled in price in the last 8 years. From $5/bag of grain to $10+ now. At one point grain was $12/50#. I've paid $300/ton for alfalfa. It used to be half that.

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yep, I have a 15 year old pickup and 14 year old trailer.  I think if Trump wins, I will buy a new pickup to celebrate and stimulate the economy.  I'll be able to afford the payment, because I'll have an extra $1000 a month when I lose my health insurance next year.
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If we had saved the amount we pay in insurance, we would not have had to make payments on my husband's recent medical procedure. Since our deductible is high, we are out the money for insurance AND the money for the procedure. We are rarely sick, and don't go into the doctor except for yearly physicals, if that even. If we put our money in a savings account instead of health insurance, we might be a little ahead. Of course, we have to make sure we put the money in the savings and not spend it - that is were so many of us screw up.
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GLP - 2016-10-13 11:20 AM If we had saved the amount we pay in insurance, we would not have had to make payments on my husband's recent medical procedure. Since our deductible is high, we are out the money for insurance AND the money for the procedure. We are rarely sick, and don't go into the doctor except for yearly physicals, if that even. If we put our money in a savings account instead of health insurance, we might be a little ahead. Of course, we have to make sure we put the money in the savings and not spend it - that is were so many of us screw up.

That's pretty much what I plan to do, in the event we lose our current insurance.  My company is considering dropping it next year.
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I fully support Trump, people have to realized, if he becomes President he will have very intelligent people with him to help advise, like Pence. We all know about the women issues, (hmmmm they're just bringing this up?) does this change my vote? NO. I want this country to be great again, not only for me, but my grand children, scare me that if Hillary wins, what kind of world will they grow up in. Wake up people this is scary.
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I can't believe people actually feel nothing has changed much in the last 8 years. It's been the opposite. Obama has followed the Saul Alinky's rules for radicals to destroy the America we know. I think he has accomplised everything on the list except for taking our guns and that is the only reason we are still standing. If Hillary gets in the first thing she is going to do is to attack the 2nd Amendment and do whatever she can to outlaw guns. Whether it be through a ridiculous cost of ammo through taxation or making the gun makers libel for someone shooting someone with their gun...her goal is to put the gun makers out of business. It's a very low and sad point in America today.

If you are not familiar with the rules of radicalism...you need to read them and then come back and tell me how it's not happening.


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* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

 
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GLP - 2016-10-13 1:20 PM If we had saved the amount we pay in insurance, we would not have had to make payments on my husband's recent medical procedure. Since our deductible is high, we are out the money for insurance AND the money for the procedure. We are rarely sick, and don't go into the doctor except for yearly physicals, if that even. If we put our money in a savings account instead of health insurance, we might be a little ahead. Of course, we have to make sure we put the money in the savings and not spend it - that is were so many of us screw up.

Back before we were forced to buy health insurance, one of my family members did this.  He had a boat load of money from it.  Then, when they reached 58 he bought health insurance.  Of course at that point you could choose not to buy a pregnancy clause for woman nor birthcontrol. 

That way they didn't waste their money because they didn't go but once a year, but were wise to have "as they got older". 

Much like a HSA would work now if we could have them.   
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3canstorun - 2016-10-13 2:09 PM
GLP - 2016-10-13 1:20 PM If we had saved the amount we pay in insurance, we would not have had to make payments on my husband's recent medical procedure. Since our deductible is high, we are out the money for insurance AND the money for the procedure. We are rarely sick, and don't go into the doctor except for yearly physicals, if that even. If we put our money in a savings account instead of health insurance, we might be a little ahead. Of course, we have to make sure we put the money in the savings and not spend it - that is were so many of us screw up.
Back before we were forced to buy health insurance, one of my family members did this.  He had a boat load of money from it.  Then, when they reached 58 he bought health insurance.  Of course at that point you could choose not to buy a pregnancy clause for woman nor birthcontrol. 



That way they didn't waste their money because they didn't go but once a year, but were wise to have "as they got older". 



Much like a HSA would work now if we could have them.   

We no longer have health insurance. It has become catastrophic insurance for health reasons. It's ridiculous. Anyone that thinks the majority of people on food stamps and welfare wants a job, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I can sell you.
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Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 3:19 PM
3canstorun - 2016-10-13 2:09 PM
GLP - 2016-10-13 1:20 PM If we had saved the amount we pay in insurance, we would not have had to make payments on my husband's recent medical procedure. Since our deductible is high, we are out the money for insurance AND the money for the procedure. We are rarely sick, and don't go into the doctor except for yearly physicals, if that even. If we put our money in a savings account instead of health insurance, we might be a little ahead. Of course, we have to make sure we put the money in the savings and not spend it - that is were so many of us screw up.
Back before we were forced to buy health insurance, one of my family members did this.  He had a boat load of money from it.  Then, when they reached 58 he bought health insurance.  Of course at that point you could choose not to buy a pregnancy clause for woman nor birthcontrol. 



That way they didn't waste their money because they didn't go but once a year, but were wise to have "as they got older". 



Much like a HSA would work now if we could have them.   
We no longer have health insurance. It has become catastrophic insurance for health reasons. It's ridiculous. Anyone that thinks the majority of people on food stamps and welfare wants a job, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I can sell you.

They don't.....and what ticks me off, is that the people who actually do need the help (single working parents without any help from the other parent) aren't able to get the assistance because of the others who decide they want to stay at home and pop out 10 kids and live off the state.

why would they want to work when they get a free handout?! ticks me off 
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 I think I'll quit my job...why should I work to pay for others. So sick of the handouts !
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My deal is this election is a joke. Regardless if there were a decent candidate at this point other countries are making fun of us. We were the head of the world and now were turning into the Jerry Springer show. I don't like either candidate and can't support either one. I support one more than the other though.
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Well, if the OP is right, good riddance to the D system of barrel racing. All it does is reward mediocrity. But wait!! Isn't that something the OP rails against?? The rewarding of meiocrity?

I sense some hippocrisy. Oh my, a rhyme!! I could be a rapper? The sky is fallin, gimme some mediocrity to go with my hippocrisy, then come callin! We be ballin, don't miss yo callin!! Uh!!

 
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shubug007 - 2016-10-13 5:14 PM

My deal is this election is a joke. Regardless if there were a decent candidate at this point other countries are making fun of us. We were the head of the world and now were turning into the Jerry Springer show. I don't like either candidate and can't support either one. I support one more than the other though.

American hasn't been looked up to for decades. American with the current government is on a decline to comparable to middle east countries. American owes most countries.
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jd&ez - 2016-10-13 8:21 PM Well, if the OP is right, good riddance to the D system of barrel racing. All it does is reward mediocrity. But wait!! Isn't that something the OP rails against?? The rewarding of meiocrity?



I sense some hippocrisy. Oh my, a rhyme!! I could be a rapper? The sky is fallin, gimme some mediocrity to go with my hippocrisy, then come callin! We be ballin, don't miss yo callin!! Uh!!


 

Ummmm  please show me where I said anything about mediocrity?? What does that have to do with the decline of our country?  I truly pity you, I am preparing while you will be caught with your head in the sand as our country and world unravel around you!  
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-11 1:15 PM

 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  

Most people have no clue where their food comes from......its just there when they want it......
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slacy09 - 2016-10-12 7:58 PM

 I think I'll quit my job...why should I work to pay for others. So sick of the handouts !

Exactly...........the more you work the more you pay to upkeep others..........but get ready for it to get worse if Hillary is elected...
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CJE - 2016-10-14 9:23 AM

Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-11 1:15 PM

 Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  

Most people have no clue where their food comes from......its just there when they want it......

Yep, you know, "my food comes from Kroger"!!!!!! And that's truly all they know. So unbelievably sad. . . .
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Do your research everyone, our government is living on borrowed time.

In 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'
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Bobbie_N - 2016-10-15 9:33 PM

Do your research everyone, our government is living on borrowed time.

In 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

I'm afraid they were right. Excellent post. Alexis De Toqueville also wrote of this, about 200 years ago, in his "Democracy in America".



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Bear - 2016-10-15 10:21 PM

Bobbie_N - 2016-10-15 9:33 PM

Do your research everyone, our government is living on borrowed time.

In 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

I'm afraid they were right. Excellent post. Alexis De Toqueville also wrote of this, about 200 years ago, in his "Democracy in America".


Learn the difference between a democracy and a republic ... calling us a democracy is a misnomer for the USA ...

If you want to see the USA as it is today ... watch the politicians in the Russell Crowe movie .... THE GLADIATOR ... YOU WILL NO BELIEVE YOUR EYES AND EARS .... VERY RUDE AWAKENING ...


I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

SUMMARY
In the Pledge of Allegiance we all pledge allegiance to our Republic, not to a democracy. "Republic" is the proper description of our government, not "democracy." I invite you to join me in raising public awareness regarding that distinction.

A republic and a democracy are identical in every aspect except one. In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group.

Republic. That form of government in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whom those powers are specially delegated. [NOTE: The word "people" may be either plural or singular. In a republic the group only has advisory powers; the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think. USA/exception: if 100% of a jury convicts, then the individual loses sovereignty and is subject to group-think as in a democracy.]

Democracy. That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation, as distinguished from a monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy. [NOTE: In a pure democracy, 51% beats 49%. In other words, the minority has no rights. The minority only has those privileges granted by the dictatorship of the majority.]

HILLARY AND OBAMA are prime examples of a democracy .... they have a set of laws for the countries population to control them and a totally different set of laws for themselves and their current followers until their followers become a pest to them ...... then they bring in a foreign army to kill everyone such as the fake muslim refugee programs they endorse ....

This is our Trojan Horse and we must support TRUMP as the only American Leader that does not condone what is going on ....... so he is attacked from all sides with lies and innuendo's by those in our corrupted government and news media .. Trump has exposed the liars and soothsayers with plain English without being politically correct .... which is a majorattack point taken by the talking heads in the news media, congress and guilty lobbyists .....

SO THE ATTACKS WILL BE MUCH GREATER AND MORE OFTEN UNTIL HILLARY IS ELECTED THEN THEY WILL GO TO WORK ON DESTROYING TRUMP FINANCIALLY ...


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the $64,000 question:  HOW do you get the Hillary supporters to see the light..........?????   She terrifies me more than anything.

Keep reminding myself though - the Lord is in control, and in the end christians win!

 
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WHEN HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THESE WORDS OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS??

TRUMP'S PLEDGE

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This kid is much smarter than the liberals we have running rampant all over the news and congress ..





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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM  Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  
Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.
Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time. Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck. The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.
It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)

 I'm salary on $6,000 a year, so that can't be a federal law. 

I was wrong, it is $47476. It is federal though. I'm not sure why you are getting paid salary for $6000. You should take that up with your employer. Maybe they are exempt for some reason. It doesn't go into effect until Dec 1st 2016. Maybe you will get a raise soon!

It's by job classification/duties. Ability to earn commission is exempt, management as well has kind of exemption. We are going through this at work right now and it's not good.. We have some salary moving to hourly that are going to have a freaking cow..
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 I don't get on here much anymore but I do lurk and read when I need a good laugh on sleepless nights...I don't like either candidate but I abhor anyone who bullies and abuses their power. I represented an assault victim who basically froze, went home, told no one and wanted it to go away. But memories have an odd way of popping up. This guy was fired for the assault. So, I never take any delayed response as a lie. 
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I would like to hear a few people explain how "trickle down economics" does not work. In fact, I'd like to hear them explain what trickle down economics actually is.
Everyone on the left keeps parroting how "trickle down" didn't work.
Maybe my idea of trickle down is too simplistic, so someone please teach me.

I'm not going to explain how it doesn't work because it does.

Here's the way it works in the horse industry. Just one segment. Person gets good job. Always wanted a racehorse. Person has enough expendable income to buy a racehorse. ETA: Breeder or pinhook (person who buys weanlings or yearlings to resell) gets money for their horse and invests it back into their operation. Stud fees get paid, mares are purchased, re-bred and fed, vets are used. Handlers, stall cleaners, farm help are all hired and paid, etc....

Person pays trainer to train racehorse. Trainer pays people to care for the horse, grooms, riders to gallop and work the horse, pony people escort the horse to and from the gate or the track for work. At least 3 people have their hands on the horse on any given day. Maybe more.

There are always at least 2 if not more retail tack stores that supply the horsemen with all the OTC meds and goods they need specific to the racetrack. Bridles, wraps, buckets, etc... ETA: Feed suppliers. Racetrack Vets supply services and prescription drugs.

Trainer enters the horse in races. The racing facility pays their office staff to co-ordinate race conditions, take entries and the bookkeepers to keep the horsemen's accounts correctly. Gate staff and clocker take care of the morning workout records. those records are compiled and transferred to the Daily Racing Form to publish. There are many office staff to support the main staff.

Race day staff check the lip for the tattoo all racehorses have (which was applied at the track by someone), make sure the right horse is being run. The horse is saddled usually requiring 3 people for each horse. Pony people lead the horse on a groomed track (tractor drivers- at least 2) to the gate where the starter and the gate crew (10 people on hand at least) load them. The track vet oversees the process to make sure all horses and people appear healthy. The ambulance and crew stand by in case someone is hurt during the on-track process.

Jockeys get paid to ride horse. Betters bet on the horse. There are several windows open to take bets. Some are automated, many are staffed by people. The IT staff make sure everything behind the scenes is working correctly along with janitors and maintenance people who fix anything that isn't working.

ETA: Congratulations your horse won. So you get to have your picture taken by the track photographer who then sells you as many copies of you and your horse as you need to brag with. lol The money you won in the race is added to your horseman's account by the bookkeeper. You could decide this is fun and buy a second racehorse with it or just let it ride. You have to pay taxes on that money to the state and federal gov. Oops more money to your tax accountant too.

When the race is over, the winner and one other horse is usually taken to the test barn where other staff wait for the horse to be bathed and cooled out to collect urine and sometimes blood for testing, it's sent to the test lab. Where other people test it for known drugs.

Track staff take the race results and send that to the DRF for publishing and to the breed associations for their use. Still other people send the state who is overseeing the correct reporting of winnings. The state gets a cut of the "handle" (the dollars the bettors bet on the races).

I may have left something out, but you can see how many jobs can be created by a good economy or eliminated by a depressed economy, where people are just trying to get by. The amount of money that is trickled down is enormous. The money isn't spend once and gone. It's spent several times before it's out of the system. It's as hard to understand how people can think it doesn't work. It's especially easy to see how it works in an industry like horses that is a luxury.

My own experience is that material goods have at least doubled in price in the last 8 years. From $5/bag of grain to $10+ now. At one point grain was $12/50#. I've paid $300/ton for alfalfa. It used to be half that.

The KICKER that Bear is getting at, and that OregonBR so eloquently pointed out .... there must be a desire to work and hold the jobs that are created by the trickle.

As others have also posted - the democracy falls apart when the voters realize they can vote themselves a share of the treasury .... So, the Democrats are correct that trickle isn't working because the people who are on welfare will always vote for more handouts and refuse to work.

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Posted 2016-10-17 3:53 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-12 12:15 PM  Are any of y'all familiar with some of the regulatory laws that have been passed in liberal California this year, specifically the ones that affect agriculture?  There is a real chance that production Ag will cease to exist there in the future in any meaningful form, with the way things are going.  They are sending a clear message that Ag isn't welcome in their backyard.  As goes California, so goes the country if we don't switch directions. The EPA has already been up our butts with WOTUS and other ridiculous things, and too many of our lawmakers aren't looking out for domestic producers in regard to trade deals.   Rural life as we know it can't exist without Ag. That includes the horse industry.  
Can you explain some of these laws? I am not familiar with them. I do know California has a water usage issue but that is about all I know. Thinking ahead, there will be big changes in agriculture in the future as a whole. Probably not a terrible thing. Change is not always a bad thing.
Dairymen must decrease the amount of methane produced by 40% by the year 2030. Oddly, the amount of methane in the atmosphere has not increased since the 1990s, it has a short life span once released. Rice patties are the biggest culprits for the production and release of methane but California has been doing everything it can to kill the dairy industry for a long time. Farms and ranches are now required to pay overtime to their employees. The seasonal employee will STARVE. During hay season here the farm hands may put in 70 hour work weeks but come winter time they are lucky to get in 20 hours. They are paid a straight time by the hour regardless of the hours they work. Basically, the over worked hours in the summer are balanced by the under worked hours in the winter. The farm hands save their summer time wages for the low times during the winter. Now they will not be able to do much saving at all. Salary is not an option either. I don't know if it is federal or state law but an employee has to make a minimum of $70K a year to be put on salary. Crews will be rotated every 8 hours. Some of the farm workers here do alfalfa in the day time and during potato season, plant and harvest potatoes at night. There will be no more of that. I have not talked to a single farm worker who was in support of the new overtime law. They knew and understood the ramifications of it and how it would effect their paycheck. The whole state has been asked to cut water usage by 23%. Now there is talk about the central valley regulating farm wells and cutting the amount even more of run off farmers are allotted for irrigation. They are already working on a minimum. So many fields have gone fallow. Orchards are drying up. In the mean time, the inner city and suburban areas are worried about their lawns.
It's federal and the limit is around $54,000 to be salary. My husbands employers bumped him up to $55,000 last year because of this law. The rest of the stuff I do not know anything about so thank you responding:)
 I'm salary on $6,000 a year, so that can't be a federal law. 
I was wrong, it is $47476. It is federal though. I'm not sure why you are getting paid salary for $6000. You should take that up with your employer. Maybe they are exempt for some reason. It doesn't go into effect until Dec 1st 2016. Maybe you will get a raise soon!
It's by job classification/duties. Ability to earn commission is exempt, management as well has kind of exemption. We are going through this at work right now and it's not good.. We have some salary moving to hourly that are going to have a freaking cow..

That makes more sense.  I'm a stock holder classified as managment.  We're self employed with multiple business entities--I'm salaried from the corporation and get a draw from the partnership. 
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and many people are worried about where there next meal will come from and we're worried if we can run across the Country to barrel race in our 100k rigs... just makes me sick. We should be worried about our health, the health of this Country.
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DLV - 2016-10-17 4:00 PM

and many people are worried about where there next meal will come from and we're worried if we can run across the Country to barrel race in our 100k rigs... just makes me sick. We should be worried about our health, the health of this Country.

Actually, I want people to strive to be able to generate the means so they too can have those $100K rigs. I want people to have the drive and desire to produce and create, so they can both enjoy the fruits of their labor and contribute to society in any manner of their choosing.
I don't disparage wealthy, successful people. I love watching it happen. I love hearing how hard work, ingenuity, and risk taking creates wealth and success. That's what creates "American exceptionalism".
Progressive-liberalism and socialism don't like the concept, because to their way of thinking, it directly conflicts with their concept of "egalitarianism". We all agree in equal rights and equal opportunity, but progressive-liberals believe in equality in terms of wealth distribution. They also believe in squelching American Exceptionalism by advocating equal outcomes.
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I have no desire to live in a world were you work just to survive. That is not the America I grew up in and I have no desire to go out of this world ending my life in a third world country like Killary is racing for us to be. I remember my parents raising 8 kids and working hard for us to have nice things and a nice life. We were on the poor side but through hard work, I was able to see the fruits of my parent's labor and watch them go from renting a place to buying their own home and being able to enjoy a nice retirement.

Capitalism works...Socialism will make us all equally poor no matter if you work or sit on your ass at home letting others support you. That really sucks..Everyone has a chance to make it in America.

 
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The state of Utah is voting for Evan McMullin. He is winning Utah and he just announced his candidancy in aug. As far as Trump, he drives me nuts but at least he will keep our constitution and bill of rights, lower taxes, get rid of the death tax, repeal obamacare and bring back jobs. Hillary is attacking our first, and second ammendment and her open borders will be opening pandoras box of mayham.  She will raise taxes, increas the death tax to 65%, reduce social security, single payer health care so it will be just like Canada's, open borders so all the drugs, drug cartel gangs, terrorists and criminal eliment can pour in at will with no-one checking or monitoring anything, sell our govt. and resources to her Clinton Foundation donors ( like she is already doing) and we still get a sexual preditor in the white house! I dont want a global govt. under UN rule and thats exactly what we get with Hillary.
? And what is all this I'm seeing lately of Bill Clinton being involved with Jeffry Epstein in a underage sex slave ring? I googled it and Holy Cow!!  And now I see Annonamous has a youtube video out now saying they have a video of Bill Clinton raping a 13 year old they got from Isrealy inteligence that they are going to release. Eye Yi Yi Yi Yi.
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 Evan McMullin   https://www.evanmcmullin.com/about_evan

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ThreeCorners - 2016-10-17 10:04 PM

The state of Utah is voting for Evan McMullin. He is winning Utah and he just announced his candidancy in aug. As far as Trump, he drives me nuts but at least he will keep our constitution and bill of rights, lower taxes, get rid of the death tax, repeal obamacare and bring back jobs. Hillary is attacking our first, and second ammendment and her open borders will be opening pandoras box of mayham.  She will raise taxes, increas the death tax to 65%, reduce social security, single payer health care so it will be just like Canada's, open borders so all the drugs, drug cartel gangs, terrorists and criminal eliment can pour in at will with no-one checking or monitoring anything, sell our govt. and resources to her Clinton Foundation donors ( like she is already doing) and we still get a sexual preditor in the white house! I dont want a global govt. under UN rule and thats exactly what we get with Hillary.
? And what is all this I'm seeing lately of Bill Clinton being involved with Jeffry Epstein in a underage sex slave ring? I googled it and Holy Cow!!  And now I see Annonamous has a youtube video out now saying they have a video of Bill Clinton raping a 13 year old they got from Isrealy inteligence that they are going to release. Eye Yi Yi Yi Yi.

A 13 year old? I haven't heard about this one. Why would they wait to release this? I suppose that would be tacky and too revolting.

Are you sure? 13??? Well, I guess it fits when one of Bill's best friends is a convicted pedophile. If Ole Willy picks 'em any younger, he'll be raping a sperm.
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Bear - 2016-10-17 10:58 PM
ThreeCorners - 2016-10-17 10:04 PM The state of Utah is voting for Evan McMullin. He is winning Utah and he just announced his candidancy in aug. As far as Trump, he drives me nuts but at least he will keep our constitution and bill of rights, lower taxes, get rid of the death tax, repeal obamacare and bring back jobs. Hillary is attacking our first, and second ammendment and her open borders will be opening pandoras box of mayham.  She will raise taxes, increas the death tax to 65%, reduce social security, single payer health care so it will be just like Canada's, open borders so all the drugs, drug cartel gangs, terrorists and criminal eliment can pour in at will with no-one checking or monitoring anything, sell our govt. and resources to her Clinton Foundation donors ( like she is already doing) and we still get a sexual preditor in the white house! I dont want a global govt. under UN rule and thats exactly what we get with Hillary.

? And what is all this I'm seeing lately of Bill Clinton being involved with Jeffry Epstein in a underage sex slave ring? I googled it and Holy Cow!!  And now I see Annonamous has a youtube video out now saying they have a video of Bill Clinton raping a 13 year old they got from Isrealy inteligence that they are going to release. Eye Yi Yi Yi Yi.
A 13 year old? I haven't heard about this one. Why would they wait to release this? I suppose that would be tacky and too revolting. Are you sure? 13??? Well, I guess it fits when one of Bill's best friends is a convicted pedophile. If Ole Willy picks 'em any younger, he'll be raping a sperm.

Check it out!   Names, dates, all of it.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEM7L42x2xc
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 There is a sexual lawsuit filed against Donald Trump by a couple of these young girls...he was also at several of the Epstein's parties...it's funny to me how you all hate the Clintons so much. Donald Trump is one of their personal friends. I'm not one for conspiracy theories...I just look for facts...
Hilary or Donald cannot destroy a country by itself...there is the House and Senate and tons of lobbyists pushing their agendas.
The farm crisis is real...we are importing most of our fruits and vegetables and some meat is being brought in from Brazil...it someone can do it cheaper in another country, we will stop farming...losing a way of life that I personally love...
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This election is a mess...  plain and simple, the mud slinging has hit a new level of low.  
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CowboyUp!!! - 2016-10-17 11:20 PM

 There is a sexual lawsuit filed against Donald Trump by a couple of these young girls...he was also at several of the Epstein's parties...it's funny to me how you all hate the Clintons so much. Donald Trump is one of their personal friends. I'm not one for conspiracy theories...I just look for facts...
Hilary or Donald cannot destroy a country by itself...there is the House and Senate and tons of lobbyists pushing their agendas.
The farm crisis is real...we are importing most of our fruits and vegetables and some meat is being brought in from Brazil...it someone can do it cheaper in another country, we will stop farming...losing a way of life that I personally love...

 You always have the absolute best avatars!
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So now I see on the news this morning they are offering $1 million for varifiable scandalous tapes of Trump. So tired of this. I hope that offer swings both ways for tapes of Clinton as well.  
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Google this: Project Veritas.

We are destroying ourselves from within. Abe Lincoln said that's how we will meet our end. He was right. We are screwed.
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If she is elected the direction of this nation will swing so far left so FAST that I am not sure a republican (even with money) will be able to fix anything. You haven't seen corruption yet! She and hers want nothing but world power, and why cant people grasp that we are not choosing a candidate,we are choosing the direction of this ONCE GREAT NATION!
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