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| polio chicken px measles thats it i personally think that all those vacantions are what bring on altritisc but that my opionion
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| Speaking from experience, it really sucks when a disease that can be vaccinated against (i.e., Pertussis aka Whooping cough) is brought to a school you work at and not only do their classmates catch it but teachers as well. So unless you plan on homeschooling through their life, please vaccinate. |
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| Talk to your doctor about spacing them out over a period of time, like some vets recommend for our horses. I don't understand how it is good for their immune system to be hit with a bunch of vaccines at one time. My kids were little when the autism/vaccination debate was going on. |
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| vjls - 2016-10-13 10:20 AM
polio chicken px measles thats it i personally think that all those vacantions are what bring on altritisc but that my opionion
The only thing I would add is tetnus. Mine didn't get the chicken pox because they didn't have the vaccine back then. They did get it, but it was no big deal, thankfully. I was lucky enough to be a stay at home mom, although they did go to a mother's day out at the church and rodeos and buck outs on the weekends. We just never had a flu or cold problem at my house- now allergies and asthma- yes. Personally, I would only vaccinate what the school says you have to and no more than that. |
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| I share some of your fear..i did the the least amount possible for my kids. They received all the recommended shots as young kids. I don't load them up on others now. Everyone wiill have an opinion on this. Do what you feel is best for you.
I do like what someone recommended...maybe spread them out?
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| Spread them out, but vaccinate your kids. I understand your fears, but the diseases are so horrible! Then you stand a chance to bring them to other children when it can be prevented. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 1:14 PM I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
At this point....there are over 450 cases of mumps in western Arkansas ...... totally preventable! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 2:14 PM I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
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Be informed. I think that maybe spreading them out, depending on your individual child's reaction to their shots.
When our kids were little, I don't remember them being as close as they are now. But, I surely wouldn't skip them at all. Way too many diseases are gone because of vaccines and way too many are coming back because people are not vaccinating. |
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Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 11:14 AM
I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
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| I don't have kids yet but we want to. With everything going on in the world the environment my kids will grow up in has been preying on my mind lately, vaccinations included.
I will vaccinate. However I am pretty sure that I'll find a doctor willing to space them out more. It just feels like a LOT for such a tiny immune system to handle.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-10-13 1:33 PM Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 1:14 PM I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
At this point....there are over 450 cases of mumps in western Arkansas ...... totally preventable!
I rather be safe then have my kidos pay for it later down the road because I didnt get them vaccinated. I got the mumps when I was a kid, I was so sick for 2 weeks missed alot of school.. I didnt wait on getting my boys vaccinated when they were babys. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 1:43 PM NJJ - 2016-10-13 1:33 PM Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 1:14 PM I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
At this point....there are over 450 cases of mumps in western Arkansas ...... totally preventable!
Not totally preventable. No vaccine is 100%. When I read about the outbreak when it first got started, all the kids at that point who were sick had been vaccinated for it. I'm sure that's not the case by now, but it did start in the vaxed population.
My kids are vaxed, but we didn't do everything (they got DTaP, polio, and MMR). If they had been daycare babies, I would have done more than I did. |
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| Trust science and history. Vaccinate your children. Speak to your doctor about your concerns. I would never miss a vaccination. My mother never had me vaccinated for mumps. I got it twice and it sucked. I got it twice because I have an underlying condition called common variable immunodeficiency if anybody is curious as to why I got it twice. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | The majority of people on here have never seen these diseases. I was from a family of 8 and chicken pox, measles and mumps ran through all of us. Not a fun time at all. I will say getting Mono trumped all of them. That was the worse thing I went through and I thought I was never going to be well again. |
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| I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
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| Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 3:26 PM
The majority of people on here have never seen these diseases. I was from a family of 8 and chicken pox, measles and mumps ran through all of us. Not a fun time at all. I will say getting Mono trumped all of them. That was the worse thing I went through and I thought I was never going to be well again.
I had chicken pox in first grade, it was horrible! Between the asthma and the chicken pox, I was a hurting little unit.
A friend of mine got mono and missed like two months of school, she was sick as a dog the whole time too.
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I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | classicpotatochip - 2016-10-13 3:35 PM Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 3:26 PM The majority of people on here have never seen these diseases. I was from a family of 8 and chicken pox, measles and mumps ran through all of us. Not a fun time at all. I will say getting Mono trumped all of them. That was the worse thing I went through and I thought I was never going to be well again. I had chicken pox in first grade, it was horrible! Between the asthma and the chicken pox, I was a hurting little unit. A friend of mine got mono and missed like two months of school, she was sick as a dog the whole time too. If you can miss out on that stuff, why wouldn't you?
I delayed chicken pox vax for my kids and here is why. Most people who get it end up with lifelong immunity and won't get it again. They're not sure how long the vax lasts...10 years? 15? It wears off tho unless you end up with the actual disease from getting vaxed (it's a live attenuated virus). Chicken pox are way worse in adults than in children. So what happens when these kids grow up and don't keep up with immunizations, as most will not? I had it, as did most other people I know and it sucked but wasn't THAT bad.
My sister went through childhood without ever catching it, but had to get the vaccine when she was 21 and went to work in the NICU. She got chicken pox from the shot. Btw, getting the cp vax doesn't prevent you getting shingles. I think they told people that at first but it turned out they were wrong. |
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| 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM
Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone.
Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross!
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Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM
I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
make sure you send a Christmas card to the herd
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM
Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross!
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| Why wouldn't you immunize?
Every disease that there is a vaccine for is important.
What are you afraid of?
Thimerisol causing autism? This is total crap, as single dose vaccines don't contain thimerisol. In Canada no child's vaccine has a preservative in it.
Do you think the vaccines will weaken the immune system? It actually builds memory cells so if your child does come into contact with the disease they will develop antibodies to fight it. Also the research shows that a child can withstand 1000 different immunizations in a day without it effecting their immune system.
Do you want to allow your child outside to play? Tetanus is everywhere in the dirt, all it takes is one little scratch (rosebushes can transmit tetanus if you get pricked) left untreated can cause death.
Meningitis, there was a girl in southern alberta who wasn't vaccinated for meningitis and she died, the parents were beyond stupid as they never took their child to a doctor, but they actually were charged and found guilty of failing to provide the necessities of life for a minor, they are awaiting sentencing.
Whooping cough, we are seeing more and more of this in our area, and it is actually the adults giving it to the kids and causing the kids to be readmitted back into hospital. The damage to the lungs is like playing Russian roulette, some can never come off of oxygen, some die.
Diptheria lives in our nose, all it takes if for our body to get run down and we can develop diphtheria,
Hepatitis, if you ever want your child to have dental work, it would be a good idea, as they are finding more and more hospitals and dentist offices that had sterilization issues. In northern alberta about 5 years ago 10 000 people needed to be tested for hepatitis, also hepatitis is more contagious then AIDS. Hep B there is no cure.
Measles can cause brain damage, one they have the disease, there isn't a cure, if they are not strong enough, they die, all health care professionals can do is manage the symptoms.
Mumps, some peoples throats swell up so much they need a trach
Rubella, if you have a daughter and she becomes pregnant and develops rubella her child may die, and if now will have congenital abnormalities.
All these diseases are one plane ride away, one class field trip, one holiday, one family member visiting, all it takes is your child being at the right place at the wrong time.
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| Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:30 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM
Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross!
I've heard that too! But mouse brains? Just just makes me sick thinking about it.
I am not sure where you are seeing mouse brains, but no that is not one used. Flu vaccines are developed out of a egg.
There are some that the vaccine culture were grown in bovine or porcine products, the end result doesn't test for any animal protein. They used to insert porcine heart valves into people, it saved lives, never heard anyone complaining about that. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:30 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross! I've heard that too! But mouse brains? Just just makes me sick thinking about it.
1. Don't believe everything you read.
2. Don't assume that because something sounds bad or scary that it actually is. If something freaks you out, dig deeper and be picky about sources. Anti groups keep people following them through fear. Things like affiliate links are a really good living for some people. |
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Location: Dubuque,IA | Go to the national Vaccine information center and educate yourself then make an informed decision. most mumps cases are of peopel that have been vaccinated. DO not depend on your doctor as they push all vaccines. It is disturbing the number of vaccines they now want to push on new babies. NOT ALL are necessary. can't believe the people talking about mono and that is not a preventable disease that therer is a vaccine for.For instance the Gardisil vaccine was pushed on people and released before it was even proven safe and has now killed and maimed countless. |
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| Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:28 PM
I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
It is not 70 needles.
The reason why children today get a few more vaccines then back in the 60's is because of scientific breakthroughs.
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yeah, and autism
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| raisinrox - 2016-10-13 4:51 PM
Go to the national Vaccine information center and educate yourself then make an informed decision. most mumps cases are of peopel that have been vaccinated. DO not depend on your doctor as they push all vaccines. It is disturbing the number of vaccines they now want to push on new babies. NOT ALL are necessary. can't believe the people talking about mono and that is not a preventable disease that therer is a vaccine for.For instance the Gardisil vaccine was pushed on people and released before it was even proven safe and has now killed and maimed countless.
The research is showing Gardisil is actually working better then first thought. The girls started getting the vaccine up here about 6 years ago, now the research is showing that male penile cancers have decreased by 30 percent. This is significant enough that they are now offering the vaccine to men.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 4:55 PM
raisinrox - 2016-10-13 5:51 PM Go to the national Vaccine information center and educate yourself then make an informed decision. most mumps cases are of peopel that have been vaccinated. DO not depend on your doctor as they push all vaccines. It is disturbing the number of vaccines they now want to push on new babies. NOT ALL are necessary. can't believe the people talking about mono and that is not a preventable disease that therer is a vaccine for.For instance the Gardisil vaccine was pushed on people and released before it was even proven safe and has now killed and maimed countless.
yeah, and autism
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I have a nine month old baby. I never thought I would not vaccinate but I didn't want to overload her system either. We spread them out. She has more doctor visits but has handled them very well. She never even gets grumpy. |
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| Bear - 2016-10-13 4:15 PM
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I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
make sure you send a Christmas card to the herd
I'm guessing that went right over her head.
No need to respond to smart a$$ comments. I'm not saying don't vaccinate nor saying I'm completely against them. I'm just stating my own personal experience with my family and them. I'm sure if your brother almost died from them you would think twice about it too. It wasn't my choice to not vaccinate myself as a child it was my mothers. Since no harm has ever come to me from not being vaccinated I don't really see the positive side to it either. I've never even had chicken pox or anything nor has my sister. I'm just on the fence about it and obviously so is the OP. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:50 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:30 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross! I've heard that too! But mouse brains? Just just makes me sick thinking about it.
2. Don't assume that because something sounds bad or scary that it actually is. If something freaks you out, dig deeper and be picky about sources. Anti groups keep people following them through fear. Things like affiliate links are a really good living for some people.
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| cheryl makofka - 2016-10-13 4:53 PM
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I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
It is not 70 needles.
The reason why children today get a few more vaccines then back in the 60's is because of scientific breakthroughs.
The vaccines have gotten better over the years, they are more pure, less risk.
The recommended schedule I saw was about 70 or so shots over the years with boosters into their teens. Just seems like a lot. The mouse brains thing was something I saw on an anti vax documentary and yes I know don't believe everything you read or hear. People get so bent out of shape over this issue and I don't get it. Seems to be a personal choice. |
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| I'm not a hardcore anti vaxer either. I'm just looking for someone to educate me. It's hard knowing what decision to make when you grew up with a mother that was a hardcore anti vaxer because of what it did to her first born. I was only 22 when my first daughter was born and my mom ripped me a new one for vaccinated her. So I figured grandma knows best and went with what she said and stoped them. My mom died of cancer 6 years ago so I can't talk to her about them anymore. So I go on pro vaxx and anti vaxx sites |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM
Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
I guess because my older brother almost died from receiving the shots. He was born in the 70s |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-10-13 5:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:50 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:30 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross! I've heard that too! But mouse brains? Just just makes me sick thinking about it.
2. Don't assume that because something sounds bad or scary that it actually is. If something freaks you out, dig deeper and be picky about sources. Anti groups keep people following them through fear. Things like affiliate links are a really good living for some people.
You said it Norma, I think thats its just crazy for someone not to want to keep their child healthy when so many diseases can be pervented. |
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Location: TEXAS | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM
Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 5:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death} I guess because my older brother almost died from receiving the shots. He was born in the 70s
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
Because there is risk involved. Vaccines are not 100% safe, nor 100% effective. Some people should not be vaccinated, and those are the ones who depend on "the herd" to help protect them, but we often can't identify these people ahead of time. Some vaccines are more important than others, some the risk vs benefit depends on the situation. Most kids tolerate them just fine, but that doesn't mean your kid will. That's why this is an issue. As a parent, my primary concern is the well-being of *my* children, not the good of society as a whole, and that's what makes this a difficult subject. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
Did you do the polio for your children? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 6:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
yes, I did do polio, along with DTaP, and MMR. My son will get the chicken pox vax next summer when he's 12. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I'm not discouraging immunizations, btw, and I do believe some are very important and valuable, but I can see both sides of the issue. Just a quick glance at the vaccine inserts will scare the bejeebus out of you if you don't have other info to balance it out. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:25 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 6:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 6:04 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 4:15 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 3:46 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. make sure you send a Christmas card to the herd I'm guessing that went right over her head. No need to respond to smart a$$ comments. I'm not saying don't vaccinate nor saying I'm completely against them. I'm just stating my own personal experience with my family and them. I'm sure if your brother almost died from them you would think twice about it too. It wasn't my choice to not vaccinate myself as a child it was my mothers. Since no harm has ever come to me from not being vaccinated I don't really see the positive side to it either. I've never even had chicken pox or anything nor has my sister. I'm just on the fence about it and obviously so is the OP.
the fact that you can not see how intellecutally dishonest that statement is only strengthens my position of making sure you send a Christmas Card to the herd.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 6:41 PM
Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 6:04 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 4:15 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 3:46 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. make sure you send a Christmas card to the herd I'm guessing that went right over her head. No need to respond to smart a$$ comments. I'm not saying don't vaccinate nor saying I'm completely against them. I'm just stating my own personal experience with my family and them. I'm sure if your brother almost died from them you would think twice about it too. It wasn't my choice to not vaccinate myself as a child it was my mothers. Since no harm has ever come to me from not being vaccinated I don't really see the positive side to it either. I've never even had chicken pox or anything nor has my sister. I'm just on the fence about it and obviously so is the OP.
Well I guess I don't get it? What's dishonest? I have never had to worry about vaccines until now. I'm only trying to educate myself on them so I can make the best choice for this baby. That's why I got on this thread. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 1:14 PM I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
Don't forget about open borders. We are letting people in from countries that have virtually no sanitation systems in place and diseases that have never been an issue here are fairly common. |
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Location: Southwest New Mexico | I'm more of afraid of what's in the vaccinations than the diseases they are preventing. Some one said if you don't vaccinate homeschool or you will get everyone sick. If they are vaccinated they should be immune right???? There are too many kids these days with developmental delays and allergies compared to 30 years ago. I am waiting for a more definite answer as to what causes that before vaccinating my son any more. He did have tdap, polio, and one other shot from 2 months to 12 months. Nothing since. I personally know someone who has a permanent disease similar to MS that was caused by a hepatitis vaccine. She will end up wheel chair bound. It was proven in court that the vaccine caused it. It's so hard because you want the best for your babies
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| nm_ana07 - 2016-10-14 12:32 AM
I'm more of afraid of what's in the vaccinations than the diseases they are preventing. Some one said if you don't vaccinate homeschool or you will get everyone sick. If they are vaccinated they should be immune right???? There are too many kids these days with developmental delays and allergies compared to 30 years ago. I am waiting for a more definite answer as to what causes that before vaccinating my son any more. He did have tdap, polio, and one other shot from 2 months to 12 months. Nothing since. I personally know someone who has a permanent disease similar to MS that was caused by a hepatitis vaccine. She will end up wheel chair bound. It was proven in court that the vaccine caused it. It's so hard because you want the best for your babies
There actually isn't that many products in the vaccine. If you actually want to discuss what is in the vaccines message me, as I don't have my book in front of me.
As for the one individual who had a reaction to the hepatitis vaccine. Yes it can happen. The chance of having an adverse reaction to Hepatitis B vaccine is less then 1 per 1 million doses. Hepatitis B is more contagious then HIV and there is no cure for Hep B. The virus can live on a surface for 72 hours, and you need a very small amount of infected blood to contract the disease. If someone infected with Hep B has an oozing cut on their hand and opens a door, if you have a cut that isn't sealed and you touch it, you could contract the disease. If dentist equipment isn't sterilized properly you can get the disease from contaminated instruments.
Yes if you are vaccinated you shouldn't contract the disease, but there are special people who will never develop immunity to the vaccine, and this can be any vaccine.
It is also important to vaccinate to protect the people who can't be vaccinated, stem cell transplants, organ transplants, cancer patients. If you don't vaccinate for MMR say your child can be contagious before they show symptoms, you send them to school you just killed the kid who just beat cancer. |
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Location: Southwest New Mexico | cheryl makofka - 2016-10-14 5:45 PM
nm_ana07 - 2016-10-14 12:32 AM
I'm more of afraid of what's in the vaccinations than the diseases they are preventing. Some one said if you don't vaccinate homeschool or you will get everyone sick. If they are vaccinated they should be immune right???? There are too many kids these days with developmental delays and allergies compared to 30 years ago. I am waiting for a more definite answer as to what causes that before vaccinating my son any more. He did have tdap, polio, and one other shot from 2 months to 12 months. Nothing since. I personally know someone who has a permanent disease similar to MS that was caused by a hepatitis vaccine. She will end up wheel chair bound. It was proven in court that the vaccine caused it. It's so hard because you want the best for your babies
There actually isn't that many products in the vaccine. If you actually want to discuss what is in the vaccines message me, as I don't have my book in front of me.
As for the one individual who had a reaction to the hepatitis vaccine. Yes it can happen. The chance of having an adverse reaction to Hepatitis B vaccine is less then 1 per 1 million doses. Hepatitis B is more contagious then HIV and there is no cure for Hep B. The virus can live on a surface for 72 hours, and you need a very small amount of infected blood to contract the disease. If someone infected with Hep B has an oozing cut on their hand and opens a door, if you have a cut that isn't sealed and you touch it, you could contract the disease. If dentist equipment isn't sterilized properly you can get the disease from contaminated instruments.
Yes if you are vaccinated you shouldn't contract the disease, but there are special people who will never develop immunity to the vaccine, and this can be any vaccine.
It is also important to vaccinate to protect the people who can't be vaccinated, stem cell transplants, organ transplants, cancer patients. If you don't vaccinate for MMR say your child can be contagious before they show symptoms, you send them to school you just killed the kid who just beat cancer.
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