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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | And I bet these women that are coming up with this bull didnt even think twice about it when it did happen, if it even happen at all.. I really think alot of these people are just making up crap now so they can get the attention they long for..And be on TV, lol..
They want to be like Hillary, they know if they lie they can get the attention like her...
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | The last person who grabbed my ass that wasn't married to me came back with a black eye and a broken nose. That has happened to me too many times and I ain't playin anymore. Don't touch me.
They may not be monsters but they are, at least in that moment, a disrespectful A***H****. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ....and I've had women kiss me without permission too. Does that make them guilty of assault? I used to love getting assaulted.
I had a thing for predators, back in the day.
I will admit, if Hillary ever tried to kiss me I would press charges. |
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Location: East Texas | TrackinBubba - 2016-10-13 1:29 PM
The last person who grabbed my ass that wasn't married to me came back with a black eye and a broken nose. That has happened to me too many times and I ain't playin anymore. Don't touch me.
They may not be monsters but they are, at least in that moment, a disrespectful A***H****.
Exactly... you take care of it right then and there and don't wait 10 years to go tell someone!! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TrackinBubba - 2016-10-13 1:29 PM
The last person who grabbed my ass that wasn't married to me came back with a black eye and a broken nose. That has happened to me too many times and I ain't playin anymore. Don't touch me.
They may not be monsters but they are, at least in that moment, a disrespectful A***H****.
I've had women pinch and grab my ass back then. Should I have punched them? What if I was flattered?
Come on, Bubba.....you loved it, didn't you? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM
Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive.
The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom. |
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LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM
Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive.
The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom.
She wasn't. An interview showed pictures of her around that time and she was still unattractive. |
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | Bear - 2016-10-13 2:45 PM TrackinBubba - 2016-10-13 1:29 PM The last person who grabbed my ass that wasn't married to me came back with a black eye and a broken nose. That has happened to me too many times and I ain't playin anymore. Don't touch me.
They may not be monsters but they are, at least in that moment, a disrespectful A***H****. I've had women pinch and grab my ass back then. Should I have punched them? What if I was flattered? Come on, Bubba.....you loved it, didn't you?
Go for it. Women can be disrespectful A***H****s too. If someone can't keep their hands to themselves, they get what's coming to them. I told him to back off and he didn't. Sorry not sorry bro.
The best part was watching him cry to the sheriff like a whiny *****. Sheriff said he obviously picked the wrong one to mess with. 
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| I hope by "without permission" you simply mean that they verbally did not say that you could kiss them, but consent to touch them was implied and understood.
I don't care about politics. I think its stupid that real issues are avoided by talking about stuff like this by both sides.
BUT sexual assault isn't something to joke about, ever. Think about your closest friends and even family.... statistics tell us that someone you know has been either raped and/or sexually assaulted, I assure you they don't take this topic lightly. |
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Location: Texas | LAC - 2016-10-13 1:51 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 2:48 PM LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive. The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom. She wasn't. An interview showed pictures of her around that time and she was still unattractive.
So you are saying that an unattractive woman cannot be sexually assaulted? I don't see the humor of this thread. |
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| RocketPilot - 2016-10-13 3:44 PM
LAC - 2016-10-13 1:51 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 2:48 PM LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive. The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom. She wasn't. An interview showed pictures of her around that time and she was still unattractive.
No, that is not what I was saying at all. And no, it is not meant to be funny. It is a common sense theory regarding the validity of the Trump accusations. |
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| Bear - 2016-10-13 1:48 PM
LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM
Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive.
The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom.
I saw that interview and was like WTF? As a SURVIVOR of a real assault I take issue with these women allowing themselves to become "victims" again through exploitation by MSM to promote and push their political views |
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I couldn't imagine being assaulted and then having strangers come up with "common sense theories" about how I was too unattractive, so I'm probably making it all up.
And yes, because married men never cheat or attempt to cheat on their wives with what is socially accepted as less attractive women. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | "Drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, and you'll never know what you'll find."
- James Carville, in response to Paula Jones
That's what this bullsh!t is all about. So kissing is now assault? Give me a break. I am pretty sure I can come up with a hel! of a lot more women who could say I "assaulted" them, 30-35 years ago, using this new bullsh!t definition. |
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| SpaceCowboy - 2016-10-13 2:14 PM
I hope by "without permission" you simply mean that they verbally did not say that you could kiss them, but consent to touch them was implied and understood.
I don't care about politics. I think its stupid that real issues are avoided by talking about stuff like this by both sides.
BUT sexual assault isn't something to joke about, ever. Think about your closest friends and even family.... statistics tell us that someone you know has been either raped and/or sexually assaulted, I assure you they don't take this topic lightly.
Agreed. If someone did to me what OP stated he had done to other women he would have found himself rounding up bail money. Sounds like OP has boundary issues and a complete lack of respect for others.
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- James Carville, in response to Paula Jones
That's what this bullsh!t is all about. So kissing is now assault? Give me a break. I am pretty sure I can come up with a hel! of a lot more women who could say I "assaulted" them, 30-35 years ago, using this new bullsh!t definition. I love how the left gets away with their selective righteous indignation. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | So a guy and a girl go out on a date. He likes her and he thinks she likes him. He brings he home, walks her to her door, and then there's this nervous moment when he want's to kiss her goodnight......so he just throws caution to the wind and kisses her good night on the lips.
That's "assault" these days, I guess. I'm just saying I'm glad it wasn't back then. That's all I'm saying. |
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| SpaceCowboy - 2016-10-13 4:07 PM
I really hope this woman IS lying.....
I couldn't imagine being assaulted and then having strangers come up with "common sense theories" about how I was too unattractive, so I'm probably making it all up.
And yes, because married men never cheat or attempt to cheat on their wives with what is socially accepted as less attractive women.
I was thinking the same thing.....
I consider myself very lucky to have never been assaulted or bothered by anyone. For years, I wondered how I got so lucky.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MObrlrcr - 2016-10-13 3:03 PM I am just curious as to how much all of these women were paid to all of the sudden come out of the woodwork.....
I bet they were paid too, the dems dont play nice so going to stir the pot as much as possible, with all the lies Hillary tells I bet these women are following in her footsteps. |
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Most of the time a simple kiss is far from assault. The scenario you explain, leaning in for a kiss while on a date, is not forceful and not assault. Do you need verbal consent to kiss a woman? Of course not. You just can't physically force her.
I'm sure you are a good man, so it's hard for you to understand that there are both men and women out there who think they can just take whatever they want sexually from the opposite sex. Its hard to grasp because it's something you nor I would ever do. They exist and they are a problem. It shouldn't be a topic of a joke. It shouldn't be taken lightly. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | My point of all of this is to express my amusement at how people allow the media narrative to mold their way of thinking, through the use of emotionally charged words and expressions. I saw the one lady claim that Trump "violated" her be kissing her on the lips. OK, that doesn't surprise me, and maybe it's sloppy or tacky, but now all of a sudden people are morphing an awkward unwanted kiss on the lips into an "assault". If I were a woman who has really been assaulted, I would be insulted. This falls into the same category as this popular phrase, "my personal space was violated", in describing someone who gets too close to you. Before people get all bent out of shape over this, yes, I understand that people sometimes get too close for comfort. Maybe I'm just an old fart, but I am amused at how society has changed over the years:
- Back in the day, when a person scraped their knee, they washed it, maybe put on a little mercurochrome, and maybe a band aid. In a day a scab formed and that gradually disappeared. Nowadays people have to apply all sorts of goops and salves and creams.....after a $1200 visit to the ER, of course.
-Nowadays, more and more people have to carry their own bottle of "hand sanitizer" and they feel they have to slather it on everytime they touch anything outside their bodies.....door knobs, counter tops, grocery carts, you name it. You see these everywhere....grocery stores, checkout counters, malls, even barns. It's amazing that some of us have managed to survive without them.
- Nowadays, everyone has to have their own personal container of water. Nobody just goes to a water fountain or grabs a glass of tap water. They have to buy their own $2 bottle of personalized water, even though it probably came out of a tap somewhere, and in some cases is probably less pure than their own water faucet.
-Everyone has to wear a dam helmet for just about everything. Yes, sometimes they are a good idea, but I just think it's gotten ridiculous.
Pretty soon people will be doing just about everything while wearing a helmet......including dating.
So now we have a new fad, or popular phrase for those uninvited or awkward kisses: "assault".
I sat on a plane yesterday next to some guy with bad gas. He farted for over two hours, and that was certainly an unpleasant invasion of my personal space. I can't wait for the day when I can have him arrested and charged for making me feel uncomfortable.
Sound ridiculous? Believe me, it's coming.
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Our country is plunging toward an irretrievable abyss because of national debt. Our healthcare is in a shambles and people can't get a decent paying job.
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| fatchance - 2016-10-14 10:04 AM Everyone has what is called personal space. Everyone should respect it.
It's hard to get laid that way.
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| I was victimized as a child who had no say.....and could not go to my parents because they would have not believed me, I was already accused of trying to get attention.
I was nearly raped as a preteen because the guy thought that I was my sister and older than 13, he let me go when I started crying and told him how old I was.
I consider those instances "sexual assault".
I have been kissed and groped by various men over the years when I did not welcome it. I did not put myself in the position for it to happen again with said individuals, sometimes confronting them, sometimes not. I consider those instances "learning experiences". I would never dream of prosecution.
In light of all of that, I find all these women crawling out of the woodwork absolutely unbelievable. If they had a problem, they should have dealt with it then (and unfortunately I think this applies to Cosby's accusers too). They waited WAY too long. If nothing else, they should have come forward as soon as he announced his candidacy, waiting until a month before elections stinks to high heaven. I have no doubt in my mind that someone has been out on a fishing expedition to find them.
It's the only thing that they have to throw at Trump hoping to tarnish his campaign. They did a similar thing to Herman Cain and it came from his own party. The opposition would have no trouble using the same tactic.
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | Regardless of your personal stance regarding the election and whether or not you believe that Trump did or did not impose himself on women, I find it absolutely reprehensible that anyone would trivulize sexual assualt. I truly hope it does not take an attack on yourself, your mother, your sister, your daughter, your best friend to open your eyes and make many of you understand there is a huge difference between being politically irrereverant and being a bully. Sexual assualt is not about SEX. It is about imposing dominance on another. It is never a joking matter. |
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| rodeoveteran - 2016-10-14 12:45 PM
I was victimized as a child who had no say.....and could not go to my parents because they would have not believed me, I was already accused of trying to get attention.
I was nearly raped as a preteen because the guy thought that I was my sister and older than 13, he let me go when I started crying and told him how old I was.
I consider those instances "sexual assault".
I have been kissed and groped by various men over the years when I did not welcome it. I did not put myself in the position for it to happen again with said individuals, sometimes confronting them, sometimes not. I consider those instances "learning experiences". I would never dream of prosecution.
In light of all of that, I find all these women crawling out of the woodwork absolutely unbelievable. If they had a problem, they should have dealt with it then (and unfortunately I think this applies to Cosby's accusers too). They waited WAY too long. If nothing else, they should have come forward as soon as he announced his candidacy, waiting until a month before elections stinks to high heaven. I have no doubt in my mind that someone has been out on a fishing expedition to find them.
It's the only thing that they have to throw at Trump hoping to tarnish his campaign. They did a similar thing to Herman Cain and it came from his own party. The opposition would have no trouble using the same tactic.
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Location: Colorado | Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM
Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
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| Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM
Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
When my cousin went to work for a Senator during the Clinton years, you can dang sure believe I felt this same way!
How is what Trump did worse than what our PRESIDENT did? I don't understand how it is much worse now than then, except that one was a Democrat and one is a Republican. |
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| Bear - 2016-10-14 2:24 PM
Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM
Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
Yep.......read what you just wrote.
What happened to a loud "No! You creep!!" and a slap on the face?
Oh wait, that would be considered assault these days. See what comes out of political correctness? And I think that the whole "bullying" thing has gotten WAY out of proportion too. My parents (and myself, by the way) taught me to stand up for myself, the whole sticks and stones thing. We have raised an entire generation of spineless victims.
I refuse to play "the victim". By todays standards I was bullied, legitimately abused and I don't buy this "Trump assaulted me trend that THE POLITICIANS and LEFTIST media are flooding us with.
I do not trivialize legitimate assault but am smart enough to recognize the difference. That is from the education I referred to in my previous post.
Edited to add: This is the classic He said, She said situation.......and the media and many voters have already convicted him.
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| rodeoveteran - 2016-10-14 2:56 PM
Bear - 2016-10-14 2:24 PM
Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM
Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
Yep.......read what you just wrote.
What happened to a loud "No! You creep!!" and a slap on the face?
Oh wait, that would be considered assault these days. See what comes out of political correctness? And I think that the whole "bullying" thing has gotten WAY out of proportion too. My parents (and myself, by the way ) taught me to stand up for myself, the whole sticks and stones thing. We have raised an entire generation of spineless victims.
I refuse to play "the victim". By todays standards I was bullied, legitimately abused and I don't buy this "Trump assaulted me trend that THE POLITICIANS and LEFTIST media are flooding us with.
I do not trivialize legitimate assault but am smart enough to recognize the difference. That is from the education I referred to in my previous post.
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | GLP - 2016-10-14 2:36 PM Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
When my cousin went to work for a Senator during the Clinton years, you can dang sure believe I felt this same way! How is what Trump did worse than what our PRESIDENT did? I don't understand how it is much worse now than then, except that one was a Democrat and one is a Republican.
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| SC Wrangler - 2016-10-14 4:38 PM GLP - 2016-10-14 2:36 PM Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
When my cousin went to work for a Senator during the Clinton years, you can dang sure believe I felt this same way! How is what Trump did worse than what our PRESIDENT did? I don't understand how it is much worse now than then, except that one was a Democrat and one is a Republican.
Very true....... but this slime bag is the only thing standing between Hillary and her certain destruction of the Constitution. |
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| The latest "victim" is now claiming he groped her in a nightclub and ground his pelvis on her in the early 90s. This was at the height of dirty dancing phenom and everbody in the club's were grinding their genitals against each other. They still do it today. Let me just say this. This is going to create a Firestorm of assaults. Our young men better watch out, they better never slow dance, pull into closely, kiss a girl without verbally asking if it's ok, dirty dance in the club bc this could come back to haunt them. BEFORE anybody slams me I have a daughter who I taught to knock the **** out of anyone who tries to assault her. She also goes to clubs and knows how to respect herself. As a rape and sexual assault survivor who's predators went unpunished I REFUSE to be a victim or teach my children to be. I probably need to talk to my son again about the ever changing culture of acceptability. He should probably become a monk just to be safe. The ridiculousness of all this is going to have long term consequences! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | LAC - 2016-10-13 1:51 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 2:48 PM LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive. The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom. She wasn't. An interview showed pictures of her around that time and she was still unattractive.
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LAC - 2016-10-13 1:51 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 2:48 PM LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive. The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom. She wasn't. An interview showed pictures of her around that time and she was still unattractive.
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Location: Colorado | GLP - 2016-10-14 2:36 PM Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
When my cousin went to work for a Senator during the Clinton years, you can dang sure believe I felt this same way! How is what Trump did worse than what our PRESIDENT did? I don't understand how it is much worse now than then, except that one was a Democrat and one is a Republican.
And President Clinton was impeached! Lost his law lic. Came darn close to losing his family.
Not sure why you believe he got off. Of course good old Ken Star who prosecuted him just got bounced from his job for some sleezy crap.
Getting really tired of he did it so I can too. That is the sound of 6 year olds on the play ground.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | What's abhorrent is the thought of Donald Trump being a role model for our children. Just look at his awful kids and how they turned out with a monster like him as their role model. I can't fathom the notion of my son growing up to be a successful multibillionaire who has created jobs for tens of thousands, and has gone through tough financial times and emerge even stronger than ever. Just imagine my son growing up to be willing to set his successful enterprise aside in the twilight years of his life to take on the enormous burden of trying to lead his country out of the abyss.
I'd much rather see my daughter go through life like Hillary, earning hundreds of millions, while creating nothing meaningful whatsoever.
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Location: Colorado | Bear - 2016-10-15 9:22 AM What's abhorrent is the thought of Donald Trump being a role model for our children. Just look at his awful kids and how they turned out with a monster like him as their role model. I can't fathom the notion of my son growing up to be a successful multibillionaire who has created jobs for tens of thousands, and has gone through tough financial times and emerge even stronger than ever. Just imagine my son growing up to be willing to set his successful enterprise aside in the twilight years of his life to take on the enormous burden of trying to lead his country out of the abyss. I'd much rather see my daughter go through life like Hillary, earning hundreds of millions, while creating nothing meaningful whatsoever. Hillary is an excellent role model for honesty, integrity, decency, and hard work.
The Trump children were all raised by their mothers. He admits he didn't have much to do with it.
Good ethics, morals and a good christian base will take a child far.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-17 12:14 AM
Bear - 2016-10-15 9:22 AM What's abhorrent is the thought of Donald Trump being a role model for our children. Just look at his awful kids and how they turned out with a monster like him as their role model. I can't fathom the notion of my son growing up to be a successful multibillionaire who has created jobs for tens of thousands, and has gone through tough financial times and emerge even stronger than ever. Just imagine my son growing up to be willing to set his successful enterprise aside in the twilight years of his life to take on the enormous burden of trying to lead his country out of the abyss. I'd much rather see my daughter go through life like Hillary, earning hundreds of millions, while creating nothing meaningful whatsoever. Hillary is an excellent role model for honesty, integrity, decency, and hard work.
The Trump children were all raised by their mothers. He admits he didn't have much to do with it.
Good ethics, morals and a good christian base will take a child far.
karen
You're kidding me, right? They adore him and follow in his footsteps. Even Hillary herself gave Trump credit for the way his kids turned out. They all have told many stories of how their dad often brought them to work with him and, in fact, how they became interested in the business even at an early age, even more than other extracurricular activities like athletics. Nobody, not even Hillary, doubts the sincerity of their remarks on their father's influence. The boys learned all of the ins and outs of the business starting at the level of the blue collar workers, to the extent that they learned how to put up dry wall and operate the heavy equipment themselves. When Trump bought Donald Jr's first car he called him up the following morning and told him he had to go to work to earn that car. None of them seems to have lost the common touch or appreciation for how fortunate they were.
To suggest that a father, who may not be the actual "custodial parent", cannot be a powerful positive influence on how the children are raised is blatantly sexist. Of course, liberals such as yourself can get away with a stupid insinuation like that.....because you are liberal. |
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| Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-15 1:58 AM
GLP - 2016-10-14 2:36 PM Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-14 2:21 PM Listen to the mans words, it went beyond an unwanted kiss. He was 59 years old, married and was expecting a child. So much for his Christian values!
Hope your daughter is never confronted by a sleezy old man who thinks his money and/or position gives him the right to do what he wants.
When my cousin went to work for a Senator during the Clinton years, you can dang sure believe I felt this same way! How is what Trump did worse than what our PRESIDENT did? I don't understand how it is much worse now than then, except that one was a Democrat and one is a Republican.
Not sure why you believe he got off. Of course good old Ken Star who prosecuted him just got bounced from his job for some sleezy crap.
Getting really tired of he did it so I can too. That is the sound of 6 year olds on the play ground.
karen
Not condoning what Trump said, I just think it is hipocritical for Dem's to say it makes Trump unelectable, but Bill's antics were downplayed. And the women who came forward about being assaulted by Bill were vilified by the press and Hillary. But now the women are victims since its not good ole Bill but Trump.
There is a double standard by the press and Democrats is what I am saying.
Really, Old Bill sure didn't suffer much. I highly doubt he ever intended to practice law once he was back in the public sector. Oh and he never came close to losing his family- Hillary new he was much more likable than her and if she was to continue in politics she had better keep him around. She was not about endanger her political aspirations.
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ALL Trump has done is to protect himself from constant attack from all of our communists we have hiding behind every door or bush ... BTW BILLY BUSH that was in the locker room boasting contest is not losing his job and HE IS FIRST COUSINS WITH GW AND JEB BUSH....
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME OR YOUR FIRST TIME TO LISTEN TO ANYONE SAYING WHAT THEY WILL DO FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN AND AMERICANS ??
LISTEN UP ...
https://www.facebook.com/realTheTrumpPledge/videos/1317501101630927/...
HERE IS THE TRUMP PLEDGE ALSO ON YOUTUBE ...
https://youtu.be/m4L4MfeVZeg
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After listening to Trump's pledge
And then seeing this in front of you ...
What would you do??
and Who would you vote for??
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Location: Colorado | Bear - 2016-10-17 7:53 AM Stitch4k9 - 2016-10-17 12:14 AM Bear - 2016-10-15 9:22 AM What's abhorrent is the thought of Donald Trump being a role model for our children. Just look at his awful kids and how they turned out with a monster like him as their role model. I can't fathom the notion of my son growing up to be a successful multibillionaire who has created jobs for tens of thousands, and has gone through tough financial times and emerge even stronger than ever. Just imagine my son growing up to be willing to set his successful enterprise aside in the twilight years of his life to take on the enormous burden of trying to lead his country out of the abyss. I'd much rather see my daughter go through life like Hillary, earning hundreds of millions, while creating nothing meaningful whatsoever. Hillary is an excellent role model for honesty, integrity, decency, and hard work. The Trump children were all raised by their mothers. He admits he didn't have much to do with it.
Good ethics, morals and a good christian base will take a child far.
karen You're kidding me, right? They adore him and follow in his footsteps. Even Hillary herself gave Trump credit for the way his kids turned out. They all have told many stories of how their dad often brought them to work with him and, in fact, how they became interested in the business even at an early age, even more than other extracurricular activities like athletics. Nobody, not even Hillary, doubts the sincerity of their remarks on their father's influence. The boys learned all of the ins and outs of the business starting at the level of the blue collar workers, to the extent that they learned how to put up dry wall and operate the heavy equipment themselves. When Trump bought Donald Jr's first car he called him up the following morning and told him he had to go to work to earn that car. None of them seems to have lost the common touch or appreciation for how fortunate they were. To suggest that a father, who may not be the actual "custodial parent", cannot be a powerful positive influence on how the children are raised is blatantly sexist. Of course, liberals such as yourself can get away with a stupid insinuation like that.....because you are liberal.
Take a breath Doc. My comment had nothing to do with custodial fathers, etc., etc.. The broad brush was used by yourself.
For years it has been well known that the Trump children were raised by their mothers. The three oldest were raised by a Very intelligent business woman. She was very involved in the Trump Brand and successful in her own business as well.
Facts are not sexist. Nice try.
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| Bear - 2016-10-17 2:32 PM
Go back and re-read what I wrote there tiger.
HA HA ... you are battling the lack of comprehension on
your use of dry Texas humor with a touch of sarcasm
while over exaggerating various points to the point
of being hilarious....
Defensive minds will never put two sentences or
paragraphs together and if reading a book will
never remember what happened in the first chapters
to lay out the plot of the story to create the drama on
the last page ... lol
Trump is a very smart man by taking care of his ex-wives
financially and including his kids in his businesses and
forming their character to meet his demands of perfection
and work ethics on everyone he employs.
Trump's statement that he had very little to do with
forming his kids attributes is a very smart way of
complimenting his ex-wives and keeping peace in the
Trump clan!!
You could hear and see the envy as Hillary complimented
Trump's children while she looked at old Bill and poor Chelsea ....
HANG IN THERE DOC ..
and don't fall for anymore politically correct non-sense from Colorado
which has been taken over by a cloud of smoke and the mindsets of Californians ..
you now live in Texas where dry humor is an asset!!
lol
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Location: Where I am happiest | A witness has come forward who was on that flight that this supposedly took place on. He was seated right across the isle from this woman and Trump and he said this absolutely did not happen. It was on FOX news and on Judge Jeanine on FOX.
? Another woman, the restaurant owner, her cousin came forward and said her story was also not true and she has a history of same type of lawsuits trying to cash in. |
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| None of these allegations needed to be true, they were needed because this election lacked a hot button social issue that gets people fired up, particularly independents who were undecided. This was the perfect scandal. No proof, no witnesses, the time elapsed etc. This was all a ploy IMO and to use false sexual assault is beyond disgusting. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | NJJ - 2016-10-14 7:47 PM LAC - 2016-10-13 1:51 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 2:48 PM LAC - 2016-10-13 1:41 PM Sorry but I find it hard to believe simply because the man has been married to some of the most beautiful women in the world. Why would he want anything to do with a woman that is just not that attractive. The older one admitted she probably wouldn't have minded it so much if he would have kept his groping above the waist. I was trying to figure out if she was very attractive as a younger woman. She looked old enough to to be my mom. She wasn't. An interview showed pictures of her around that time and she was still unattractive.
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