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THE AMERICAN Calf Roping Court Case (correction) sorry
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Two lawsuits over allegations that star calf ropers rigged a lucrative rodeo in Arlington last year by losing on purpose were dismissed this week, as undisclosed settlements were reached in each case.
But additional court records made available this month show how the controversy started, including details on a contentious spat between Tuf Cooper, one of the best and richest ropers in the world, and Cole Bailey, a part-time cowboy who sells cars at his family business in Oklahoma.
At one point, an infuriated Bailey told Cooper bluntly: “You’re a piece of crap,” according to a sworn affidavit signed by Bailey this summer.
In the affidavit, he accused Cooper of asking him to participate in the alleged scheme.
Cooper, a roping prodigy from a tradition-rich roping family in Decatur, has not returned requests for comment.
The 26-year-old is a three-time world champion who turned pro nine years ago. His older brothers are pro ropers, too, and their father, Roy Cooper, won eight world titles in the 1970s and 80s.
Tuf Cooper and Timber Moore, a top roper from Aubrey, were sued by RFD-TV Events, a rural media company, in August.
The dispute stemmed from the company’s The American Rodeo at AT&T Stadium on March 1, 2015. The one-day, independent event offered prizes of $100,000 to winners of seven different rodeo competitions. But it also featured a bonus reward for cowboys who qualified for the event rather than those who were invited.
A qualifier was eligible to earn up to $1 million from a side pot for winning any of the seven events.
Bailey, a qualifier, reached the roping finals of the event, along with Cooper and Moore, both invitees, and Reese Riemer, another qualifier.
In his affidavit, Bailey wrote that Cooper approached him before the final round of competition with an offer.
“Hey Cole, do you want to talk some business?” Cooper asked Bailey, according to the affidavit. “You know, I’ve talked to Timber. You know we can all leave here with money.”
‘A great deal’
Cooper, according to Bailey’s affidavit, explained the plan this way: “You know, you and Reese rope first and then me and Moore. After y’all rope, we’ll know what to do. Timber and me let you or Reese win, one of you two wins the rodeo, and then we can just all split the money.”
The idea, according to the affidavit, was to allow Bailey or Riemer to collect $100,000 for winning the roping competition, and then take home a large chunk — or possibly all — of the $1 million side pot. The grand total would then be split among the four ropers.
“I appreciate the offer,” Bailey said he told Cooper, “but I can’t and won’t do it.”
Bailey said Moore’s father-in-law was with Cooper and told him, “Cole, you’re making a mistake. This is a great deal.” Moore was not quoted in Bailey’s affidavit.
Before the final round, Bailey said he asked Riemer if he had heard of a plan to split winnings.
“You know, Cole,” Riemer said, according to Bailey’s affidavit, “that’d be a lot of money we could all split and walk outta here with.”
Bailey declined again, according to his affidavit, and placed fourth in the event.
Riemer won with a time of 7.59 seconds. Cooper finished second, at 8.38 seconds, followed by Moore.
Another qualifer, Taylor Price, won the bronc riding competition, so he and Riemer split the $1 million side pot.
“Words can’t express what this can do for my life,” Riemer told RFD-TV after the competition. “ “When I threw my hands up and looked at the clock – I’ll remember that moment the rest of my life.”
‘Take the Jesus off your collar’
Afterward, Cooper approached Bailey and told him that he, Riemer and Moore would be splitting their winnings, according to the affidavit.
“At that time, and by his behavior and his words, I believed he approached me with the intent to ensure that I was not going to reveal to anyone the details of the Scheme and what had just transpired,” Bailey wrote in the affidavit. “Cooper then implied that I made a mistake by not taking the opportunity to be split in on the money.”
Bailey didn’t take well to his interaction.
“You know, you got a lot of people here that are looking up to you,” he told Cooper. “I got a little boy at home that’s probably one day gonna look up to me. To think I could do something this sorry? You’re a piece of crap. You need to take the Jesus off your collar.”
Bailey comment likely referenced Cooper’s competition shirts, which are embroidered with the name “Jesus.”
RFD-TV Events, the operator of The American, soon heard rumors of a possible scandal.
A company representative contacted Bailey four days after the rodeo, and Bailey told the rep what he knew, according to his affidavit.
A short time later, RFD-TV stopped payment on Riemer’s winning check of $517,000.
At some point, the Arlington Police Department looked into the incident, but the investigation was closed for lack of witness cooperation, said Lt. Chris Cook, police spokesman.
Riemer countered the stopped payment on his check by suing RFD-TV in federal court in February.
“There is simply no legal justification for their failure to pay him,” Riemer’s attorney, John Thomas, said at the time. “There is no evidence that Reese agreed to share the proceeds, and certainly no basis to suggest that he did anything wrong.”
Riemer in his lawsuit claimed that RFD-TV’s owner threatened him with prison time. Then, when the 2016 rodeo approached, the company used Riemer’s photo as a marketing tool, the lawsuit noted.
In August, RFD-TV filed a lawsuit in Tarrant County civil court against Moore and Cooper, outlining allegations of a “fix” at the 2015 rodeo.
It was unclear this week how the lawsuits were resolved.
Rick Hagen, the attorney for Moore, could only release this comment: “The parties have resolved this dispute to each party’s satisfaction.”
Attorneys for RFD-TV and Riemer could not be reached. Cooper did not hire an attorney.
Cooper fame
A post linking to the Star-Telegram story about the August lawsuit was shared more than 1,000 times on the Spin To Win Rodeo Magazine’s Facebook page. A good number of the 129 comments focused on Cooper.
Not only is he successful, he’s one of the sport’s most visible stars.
He holds sponsorships from Chevrolet and MGM Grand, and this year, he switched from the traditional Pro Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) to the upstart Elite Rodeo Athletes (ERA) tour, a circuit fewer rodeos but more prize money.
On Twitter, he has 51,000 followers, almost double of any other ERA cowboy. More than 100,000 fans like his Facebook page.
The one roper more popular than Cooper might be his brother-in-law, Trevor Brazile, a 23-time world champion.
After The American rodeo in 2015, Cooper went on to finish fourth in the PRCA standings, earning more than $211,000.
That summer, he and Bailey ran into each other at a rodeo in Montana.
“Hey, can I just talk to you for twenty seconds?” Cooper asked him, according to Bailey’s affidavit. “I just want to apologize to you and your family. It was never my intention for this to be this big of a deal. I want to apologize if I caused you or your family any harm or stress over this deal.”
Bailey told him, “Man, you ain’t caused me no harm,” and the two parted ways.


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I'd be real interested in the details of the settlement.  Thanks for sharing. 
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“Hey, can I just talk to you for twenty seconds?” Cooper asked him, according to Bailey’s affidavit. “I just want to apologize to you and your family. It was never my intention for this to be this big of a deal. I want to apologize if I caused you or your family any harm or stress over this deal.”

^^^To me this means the whole thing is true. Tuf tried to fix the competition.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-10-18 2:23 PM
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I seem to remember getting my ass chewed off when this first went down for saying I was sure it was true. Apparently many seem to think being a big name rodeo star means you have actual morals and values.

On another note, looks like both Tuf and Trevor gave up their ERA board positions and stocks so they can enter the PRCA rodeo's now.
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Just a correction....it is NOT the ERA as the title proclaims but the American Rodeo........ 
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SKM - 2016-10-18 2:23 PM I seem to remember getting my ass chewed off when this first went down for saying I was sure it was true. Apparently many seem to think being a big name rodeo star means you have actual morals and values. On another note, looks like both Tuf and Trevor gave up their ERA board positions and stocks so they can enter the PRCA rodeo's now.

I thought the ERA was Trevor's baby.

 
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Frodo - 2016-10-18 2:01 PM

SKM - 2016-10-18 2:23 PM I seem to remember getting my ass chewed off when this first went down for saying I was sure it was true. Apparently many seem to think being a big name rodeo star means you have actual morals and values. On another note, looks like both Tuf and Trevor gave up their ERA board positions and stocks so they can enter the PRCA rodeo's now.

I thought the ERA was Trevor's baby.

 

Tuf endorses it more than Trevor does. He always has.
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This has NOTHING to do with the ERA. 
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SC Wrangler - 2016-10-18 3:54 PM This has NOTHING to do with the ERA. 

I don't think anybody said it did.  It was just one of those abrupt changes of subject.
 
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Frodo - 2016-10-18 4:15 PM
SC Wrangler - 2016-10-18 3:54 PM This has NOTHING to do with the ERA. 
I don't think anybody said it did.  It was just one of those abrupt changes of subject.

 

The TITLE of the thread says it ......... 
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
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Frodo - 2016-10-18 3:15 PM

SC Wrangler - 2016-10-18 3:54 PM This has NOTHING to do with the ERA. 

I don't think anybody said it did.  It was just one of those abrupt changes of subject.
 

The title has ERA in it instead of American. I made the jump to mentioning that Tuf and Trevor had gone back to the PRCA.

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1DSoon - 2016-10-18 3:39 PM

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Internet win for the day!

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NJJ - 2016-10-18 2:26 PM Just a correction....it is NOT the ERA as the title proclaims but the American Rodeo........ 

You are absolutely right.  My mistake.  Sorry. 
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I have such mixed emotions about the whole deal...
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If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.

As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.

 
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scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM

If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.

As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.

 

Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.
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scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM

If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.

As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.

 

Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.

I have such a hard time with this, I am not saying you are right or wrong but he was so polite to me at the American, at the American where this all went down. He went out of his way and was so polite. I think, I am nobody, he could have blown me off. No one was around but he didn't.

I have my reservations about this whole ordeal but it is really heartbreaking to consider it being true. For anyone really but for someone who is looked up to.
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stayceem - 2016-10-19 5:20 PM

SKM - 2016-10-19 2:45 PM

scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM

If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.

As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.

 

Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.

I have such a hard time with this, I am not saying you are right or wrong but he was so polite to me at the American, at the American where this all went down. He went out of his way and was so polite. I think, I am nobody, he could have blown me off. No one was around but he didn't.

I have my reservations about this whole ordeal but it is really heartbreaking to consider it being true. For anyone really but for someone who is looked up to.

Many of these people are one way in public and another behind the scenes. They are just like people you know. I am sure he appreciates his fans but don't you think it strange he took an extra swing and double wrapped his calf's legs when so much money was up? Even his dad was dumbfounded. He said he must have had a good reason but with so much money on the line, he couldn't believe he safetied up. He said it was uncharacteristic for Tuff to do that.
Many famous people say and do things in private that they would not do in public.
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If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.

As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.

 

Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.

I have such a hard time with this, I am not saying you are right or wrong but he was so polite to me at the American, at the American where this all went down. He went out of his way and was so polite. I think, I am nobody, he could have blown me off. No one was around but he didn't.

I have my reservations about this whole ordeal but it is really heartbreaking to consider it being true. For anyone really but for someone who is looked up to.

Many of these people are one way in public and another behind the scenes. They are just like people you know. I am sure he appreciates his fans but don't you think it strange he took an extra swing and double wrapped his calf's legs when so much money was up? Even his dad was dumbfounded. He said he must have had a good reason but with so much money on the line, he couldn't believe he safetied up. He said it was uncharacteristic for Tuff to do that.
Many famous people say and do things in private that they would not do in public.

I totally understand that but I just was surprised if he really is as shady as some make him seem, usually they are pleasant in public places but I literally ran into him in the parking lot. I just felt it was above and beyond what even I expected of him.

With that said, I do find it weird he did what he did that day. But I also think it is interesting that the investigations didn't go further. I almost wish it wouldn't have settled and I would be interested to know what the settlement was as others have mentioned. Like I said, I have my feelings that go both ways. Part of me thinks they didn't have merit which is why it was held up in so many ways, part of me thinks his performance was odd, but part of me also feels like his Dad wouldn't have made those comments as I feel his Dad would have known something about it.

Lots of ways this goes. Either way it is a shame.
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scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM

If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.

As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.

 

Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.

I have such a hard time with this, I am not saying you are right or wrong but he was so polite to me at the American, at the American where this all went down. He went out of his way and was so polite. I think, I am nobody, he could have blown me off. No one was around but he didn't.

I have my reservations about this whole ordeal but it is really heartbreaking to consider it being true. For anyone really but for someone who is looked up to.

Many of these people are one way in public and another behind the scenes. They are just like people you know. I am sure he appreciates his fans but don't you think it strange he took an extra swing and double wrapped his calf's legs when so much money was up? Even his dad was dumbfounded. He said he must have had a good reason but with so much money on the line, he couldn't believe he safetied up. He said it was uncharacteristic for Tuff to do that.
Many famous people say and do things in private that they would not do in public.

I totally understand that but I just was surprised if he really is as shady as some make him seem, usually they are pleasant in public places but I literally ran into him in the parking lot. I just felt it was above and beyond what even I expected of him.

With that said, I do find it weird he did what he did that day. But I also think it is interesting that the investigations didn't go further. I almost wish it wouldn't have settled and I would be interested to know what the settlement was as others have mentioned. Like I said, I have my feelings that go both ways. Part of me thinks they didn't have merit which is why it was held up in so many ways, part of me thinks his performance was odd, but part of me also feels like his Dad wouldn't have made those comments as I feel his Dad would have known something about it.

Lots of ways this goes. Either way it is a shame.

I agree it is a shame this happened. But he was nice to you and seemed genuine it sounds like, so just remember No one is perfect. So often we put our heroes/famous people on pedestals and expect them to be infallible. They aren't. Root for him if you want to and remember his good side. If I had a good experience with someone that is what I would do.
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scwebster - 2016-10-19 2:19 PM If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.



As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.


 

If this were the NFL, the gamblers would have made Tuff disappear by now. 
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Knowing Cole and his family, I have absolutely no doubt that what he said is true.

Not to mention that Cole had absolutely ZERO to gain in the situation, except the ridicule of THE most influential family name in his sport and all their fan base. Cole did the right thing because he was raised right, and I'm sure his mama is smiling down on him.
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I think the details of the settlements will come out eventually. The rodeo world is small. I think that's what these "superstars" with 100K+ followers on social media lose sight of.
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Don't you "imagine" it is some sort of payback to the American, so that they will drop the case?  What other reason would there be "to settle?" 
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I hope the 3 who were in on it are banned from ever competing at an American event
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jbw tx mom - 2016-10-20 9:27 AM

I hope the 3 who were in on it are banned from ever competing at an American event

I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty sure the guy who's in charge of The American took over the ERA. Since Tuf is one of the main ERA players, I'm willing to bet it will be business as usual.
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SKM - 2016-10-20 4:03 PM
jbw tx mom - 2016-10-20 9:27 AM I hope the 3 who were in on it are banned from ever competing at an American event
I doubt that will happen. I'm pretty sure the guy who's in charge of The American took over the ERA. Since Tuf is one of the main ERA players, I'm willing to bet it will be business as usual.

Not quite true ~ Randy is no longer employed by RFD-TV and is NOT in charge of the American.  Nor did he take over the ERA - he's consulting for them. 
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scwebster - 2016-10-19 1:19 PM If this were a sport as popular as the NFL, Cooper wouldn't have a single sponsor left. I am not saying thats what should happen. As a person who has rooted him on, I am dissapointed by his actions. He portrays himself with such an image. I also did not care for the way he handled being invited back to Calgary. I hope he learns from this incident and makes better choices going forward.



As for Mr. Cole Bailey, I do not know him personally but commend him for doing the right thing. Much respect!!!! What he did was extremely admirable.


 
Tuf isn't going to change. He isn't the choir boy people seem to think. He's arrogant, self serving and greedy. I've gotten flamed more than once for speaking this. I saw his dad in action plenty of times and believe me, Tuf is walking in those footsteps. Tuf is a great roper. Probably one of the best. I have respect for his skill with a rope. His skills as a human being...not so much.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 
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OregonBR - 2016-10-20 12:05 PM The moral of this story is don't put anyone on a pedestal. We are all human and have our problems or faults. You can respect someone for parts of who they are or something they are good at, while realizing they are not perfect.

I agree 100% but forgiving people and understanding we are all flawed, does not exempt us from the consequences of our behavior.  It may not change his salvation, or much else, but God will allow us to fall from grace if we chose.  This is and was illegal.  Fixing NFL, MBL and NBA games gets a lot more than a quiet settlement and this is the same.  No ony a let down to the fans in that moment, but I'll never watch him the same again.  I didn't know he had a reputation of being known for being rude but I only watch TV.  
I DO wish Rodeo news and stories as well as comentairy were more indepth.  If this came up with another sport, the story would be all over...not seceret deals, even if they were in college.
I hate when people say "You can't say anything bad, they are at the NFR".  I prevents honest stories and distracts from the sport.  I also think it slows the growth and is part of the reason Rodeo is not as big as other sports.  If Athletes cry any time someone says something mean about them. . . Holy cow.

 
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OregonBR - 2016-10-20 12:05 PM The moral of this story is don't put anyone on a pedestal. We are all human and have our problems or faults. You can respect someone for parts of who they are or something they are good at, while realizing they are not perfect.

I agree 100% but forgiving people and understanding we are all flawed, does not exempt us from the consequences of our behavior.  It may not change his salvation, or much else, but God will allow us to fall from grace if we chose.  This is and was illegal.  Fixing NFL, MBL and NBA games gets a lot more than a quiet settlement and this is the same.  No ony a let down to the fans in that moment, but I'll never watch him the same again.  I didn't know he had a reputation of being known for being rude but I only watch TV.  
I DO wish Rodeo news and stories as well as comentairy were more indepth.  If this came up with another sport, the story would be all over...not seceret deals, even if they were in college.
I hate when people say "You can't say anything bad, they are at the NFR".  I prevents honest stories and distracts from the sport.  I also think it slows the growth and is part of the reason Rodeo is not as big as other sports.  If Athletes cry any time someone says something mean about them. . . Holy cow.

 

I think a little scandal would only help the sport. As long as the scandal is about the individuals and not the sport itself. I mean you definitely don't want to broadcast if a calf breaks its leg on rodeo grounds or something along those lines.

But people love drama! It gets them hooked, more involved. Could imagine the kind of exposure rodeo would get if one of our contestants showed up in the tabloids?? *gaspppp* Lol!
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Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   

 
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Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   



 

tell us more about this?

 
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That's actually exactally what I mean.  As it is, if you say someone isn't good with their hands, or being more balanced would help them...OMG you get attacked!  A few years ago a repete NFR Barrel Racer had a horse change, actually several, in the last weeks going into the NFR.  Several of us (myself and other BB's) asked what happened to her horse?  HOLY COW, we got slammed...it was none of our business, if she doesn't want to talk about it she doesn't have to, I mean it was rediculeous.  The reason for this famous horse being retired was never ever released as common knowledge or in articles.  And people attacked because the rider is really shy and gets her feelings hurt really easy, and people need to be nice, after all she has been to the NFR.  What???  What has any of that got to do with competition, rodeo or the horse???  It was actually bizzar but I have seen it happen again and again.
I am fine with being able to see real stories about the athletes.  I happen to believe the "stories" about Cooper based on some of the bb's that have posted and have always been upfront about other subjects.

 
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He was betting on Baseball games that he was also playing in.  Serious No No.  Lots of players have gotten in big trouble for "fixing" games, this is no different.
Betting on a game you are playing in means you can change the out come of the game...and win or lose your bet.
Which is what this is, if it's true.

Hey, could The American make a rule that any Invite's that make the final HAVE to rope first, Qualifiers rope last.  Because once a qualifier has a time, all the rest have to do is miss, or not ride, or slow down.  Since Qualifiers are the only ones that can win the Million (or portion of) the Invite's could not risk them missing, hitting a barrel, not making a ride.  Just an idea

 
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Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   



 
tell us more about this?



 

1987 Cincinnati Reds catcher betting on 52 games he played in.  Sports gambler in general.  Permanently banned from MLB in 1989.  He was a great player who will be remembered for nothing but this bad behavior.

 
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Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   



 
tell us more about this?



 
1987 Cincinnati Reds catcher betting on 52 games he played in.  Sports gambler in general.  Permanently banned from MLB in 1989.  He was a great player who will be remembered for nothing but this bad behavior.



 

1D knows this, hes just messing with you Frodo  
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Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   



 
tell us more about this?



 
1987 Cincinnati Reds catcher betting on 52 games he played in.  Sports gambler in general.  Permanently banned from MLB in 1989.  He was a great player who will be remembered for nothing but this bad behavior.



 

Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle was never a catcher. 1st, 3rd and a bit of outfield.

he is clouded in controversy, but he is most known as the Hit King with an MLB leading 4200 base hits. 


 
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Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   



 
tell us more about this?



 
1987 Cincinnati Reds catcher betting on 52 games he played in.  Sports gambler in general.  Permanently banned from MLB in 1989.  He was a great player who will be remembered for nothing but this bad behavior.



 
Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle was never a catcher. 1st, 3rd and a bit of outfield.



he is clouded in controversy, but he is most known as the Hit King with an MLB leading 4200 base hits. 





 

Doesn't make much difference what position you're playing if you're gambling on the outcome of the game you're playing in. 
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Frodo - 2016-10-21 5:25 PM Anybody remember the whole gambling scandal with Pete Rose.  Nothing good ever came of that and no matter what the man does he'll always be associated with dishonesty.  So will Tuf.   



 
tell us more about this?



 
1987 Cincinnati Reds catcher betting on 52 games he played in.  Sports gambler in general.  Permanently banned from MLB in 1989.  He was a great player who will be remembered for nothing but this bad behavior.



 
1D knows this, hes just messing with you Frodo  

Which would make him a bit of an ass. 
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if by ass you mean right.

Then you are correct. 

 
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 When I hear the name Pete Rose the only think that I think of is his scandle.  Don't have a clue what spot he played or how he batted.  Just know that he cheated, got caught and is now banned.  Several have tried to get him in the hall of fame but it aint happening
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Swannranch - 2016-10-21 4:42 PM That's actually exactally what I mean.  As it is, if you say someone isn't good with their hands, or being more balanced would help them...OMG you get attacked!  A few years ago a repete NFR Barrel Racer had a horse change, actually several, in the last weeks going into the NFR.  Several of us (myself and other BB's) asked what happened to her horse?  HOLY COW, we got slammed...it was none of our business, if she doesn't want to talk about it she doesn't have to, I mean it was rediculeous.  The reason for this famous horse being retired was never ever released as common knowledge or in articles.  And people attacked because the rider is really shy and gets her feelings hurt really easy, and people need to be nice, after all she has been to the NFR.  What???  What has any of that got to do with competition, rodeo or the horse???  It was actually bizzar but I have seen it happen again and again.

I am fine with being able to see real stories about the athletes.  I happen to believe the "stories" about Cooper based on some of the bb's that have posted and have always been upfront about other subjects.


 

Could you PM me who that was? I cannot remember and its bugging me. 
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1DSoon - 2016-10-21 4:59 PM if by ass you mean right.



Then you are correct. 



 

Why are you talking about your right ass??? What about your left one? 
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I am so glad that the article stated that Cole was approached to get his story. A while back some ropers were trying to make him out to be a snitch, and that severely ****ed me off. He is such a great guy, with tremendous talent, and one of the best horses out there.
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