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SHAMEFUL .....Soldiers must pay back bonus!
NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 9:16 AM
Subject: SHAMEFUL .....Soldiers must pay back bonus!


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 This is outrageous that thousands of CA soldiers are being required to pay back a bonus that they received to join and fight ..... If they refuse to pay, they can be charged interest, wage garnishment and tax liens .......

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/Report-California-Soldiers-Ordered-to-Repay-Enlistment-Bonuses-398046881.html

Please sign this petition ......
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reverse-decision-forced-thousands-military-veterans-repay-bonuses-they-received-going-war

 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 9:29 AM
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Done  
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-10-24 9:35 AM
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I just read the headlines


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Done.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-10-24 9:57 AM
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It's a national disgrace.

I signed.
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 10:07 AM
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Go Get Em!


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 Thats dicusting. I SIGNED,thank you for posting
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-10-24 10:41 AM
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How could this happen?  All over the country and not found for 10 years!  The instructions given to the state National Guard comanders must have been wrong or misleading.  This is horrible, there should be a statute of limitations that would cover this. 
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CrossCreek
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2016-10-24 12:29 PM
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I signed.
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-10-24 1:03 PM
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I'm sure the White House will be on this like a duck on a Junebug.

 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 1:17 PM
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Please post the petition link on your FB .... I would rather see a hundred links pop up on my feed than more Trump/Hillary posts..... 
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2016-10-24 1:26 PM
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Signed.   
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-10-24 2:54 PM
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 I have yet to read or see anything that explained how this happened.


The over payment that is
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 3:25 PM
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1DSoon - 2016-10-24 2:54 PM  I have yet to read or see anything that explained how this happened.





The over payment that is

This article gives a little more insight as to how they supposedly over paid .....
 
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-national-guard-bonus-20161020-snap-story.html
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-10-24 3:50 PM
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Sadly Congress has know about this for years and failed to act.  Par for the course. 
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cranky B4 10am
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2016-10-24 4:09 PM
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NJJ - 2016-10-24 1:17 PM Please post the petition link on your FB .... I would rather see a hundred links pop up on my feed than more Trump/Hillary posts..... 

Signed and shared on my fb. This is a total disgrace!!  
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-10-24 5:19 PM
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Another kick in the gut to our military.

Signed.

Thanks for sharing.

 
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rockangel62
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2016-10-24 6:21 PM
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2016-10-24 6:35 PM
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Signed. What a bunch of BS
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 6:42 PM
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I went and signed again.. 
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euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-10-24 7:32 PM
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This has to be the most discusting things I have ever heard of!!!  Signed
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-10-24 8:45 PM
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they no doubt will hand over to the care of refugees... yes a slapin the face.. pathetic scroundrals.. 
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-10-24 9:02 PM
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Done. Our government is a shameless hussy
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2016-10-24 9:09 PM
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How much more crazy can stuff like this be?  Disgusting!!!!!!! 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-24 10:27 PM
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Hope that everyone gos back and votes again 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-10-25 8:59 AM
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I find it strange that threads here that "bash" Hillary or Trump get more response than a disgrace happening to our military.....Even the "Walking Dead" thread got more traffic........SMH !!!
 


Edited by NJJ 2016-10-25 9:02 AM
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kanchazer
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-10-25 9:10 AM
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Done and thank you for posting. 
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-10-25 10:25 AM
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I heard on the news last night that this is the fault of one government official's criminal actions.  Not sure what that means but the impression was someone did it to help one person and everybody got sucked in. 
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-10-25 10:33 AM
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NJJ - 2016-10-25 8:59 AM I find it strange that threads here that "bash" Hillary or Trump get more response than a disgrace happening to our military.....Even the "Walking Dead" thread got more traffic........SMH !!!

 

 I had already read about and discussed it on FB. I signed the petition, although change.org isn't really legit since there's no signature verification, and petitions can be edited after people have signed.  IOW no one will take it seriously.  I do hope our govt does the right thing and lets the soldiers keep the money they earned. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-25 10:45 AM
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I've gone back a few times checking to see how much the numbers have changed for the votes, moving pretty good, I have voted every time I gone back to check. 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-10-25 5:49 PM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-25 10:33 AM
NJJ - 2016-10-25 8:59 AM I find it strange that threads here that "bash" Hillary or Trump get more response than a disgrace happening to our military.....Even the "Walking Dead" thread got more traffic........SMH !!!
 
 I had already read about and discussed it on FB. I signed the petition, although change.org isn't really legit since there's no signature verification, and petitions can be edited after people have signed.  IOW no one will take it seriously.  I do hope our govt does the right thing and lets the soldiers keep the money they earned. 
 To clarify, this petition is not on change.org but the site .... petitions.whitehouse.gov
It has jumped from 3000+ votes to 24,000+ in a little over 24 hours but there are several petitions listed on the same subject.



 

Edited by NJJ 2016-10-25 5:50 PM
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2016-10-25 6:18 PM
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It's an absolute disgrace!!  We should be calling our Congressmen and Senators and DEMAND they correct this.  They are the ones who make the laws after all....
If they can quickly pass a "tax allowance" law for the Olympians, they can quickly pass a fix for this situation.  The government LIED when these men and women enlisted.  THEY need to fix it!!   
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ndcowgirl
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2016-10-25 7:44 PM
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I voted and shared on FB
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-10-25 8:18 PM
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I wonder if Obama likes seeing this. He's probably thinking it takes at least some of the focus off the latest ObamaCare news, which is disastrous. It wouldn't surprise me if he figured us peons can't focus on more than one disgrace at the same time.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-10-25 9:40 PM
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NJJ - 2016-10-25 5:49 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-25 10:33 AM
NJJ - 2016-10-25 8:59 AM I find it strange that threads here that "bash" Hillary or Trump get more response than a disgrace happening to our military.....Even the "Walking Dead" thread got more traffic........SMH !!!

 
 I had already read about and discussed it on FB. I signed the petition, although change.org isn't really legit since there's no signature verification, and petitions can be edited after people have signed.  IOW no one will take it seriously.  I do hope our govt does the right thing and lets the soldiers keep the money they earned. 
 To clarify, this petition is not on change.org but the site .... petitions.whitehouse.gov

It has jumped from 3000+ votes to 24,000+ in a little over 24 hours but there are several petitions listed on the same subject.






 

 My bad. The one I saw was was change.org. I'll go sign this one too. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-10-26 9:24 AM
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I was watching on our news last night about a soldier going threw this mess, hes saying that when they did get these bonus they got taxed on them so they didnt get the full bonus, but the pentagon whats the full amount from the men and women that were payed to them befor the taxes were taking out. What the He**!!!  

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-10-26 9:28 AM
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-10-26 9:54 AM
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It was just posted on Foxnews that they have stopped this and are not going to try and collect.  
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-10-26 9:57 AM
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 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/26/carter-suspends-pentagon-s-demand-return-cash-bonuses-to-california-soldiers.html

DEVELOPING: The U.S. Secretary of Defense said Tuesday that he is ordering the Pentagon to suspend its effort to recover the decade-old reenlistment bonuses paid to thousands of California Army National Guard soldiers who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
About 2,000 soldiers were recently told they had to repay the cash bonuses that, in some cases, amounted to $15,000 or more.
Ash Carter, the secretary, said in a statement that there is a process in place to assist soldiers who seek relief of such obligations, and in this case, “hundreds” of Guard members have already sought and have been granted relief.
“But that process has simply moved too slowly and in some cases imposed unreasonable burdens on service members,” the statement read. “That is unacceptable.”
Carter did not mention any timeframe that the suspension will expire, but he insisted that it will be in place until he is “satisfied that our process is working effectively.”
Faced with a shortage of troops at the height of the two wars, California Guard officials offered bonuses of $15,000 or more for soldiers to reenlist.
A federal investigation in 2010 found thousands of bonuses and student loan payments were improperly doled out to California Guard soldiers. About 9,700 current and retired soldiers received notices to repay some or all of their bonuses with more than $22 million recovered so far.
Soldiers said they feel betrayed at having to repay the money.
"These bonuses were used to keep people in," said Christopher Van Meter, a 42-year-old former Army captain and Iraq veteran who was awarded a Purple Heart. "People like me just got screwed."
Van Meter said he refinanced his home mortgage to repay $25,000 in reenlistment bonuses and $21,000 in student loan repayments that the military says was improperly given to him.
The California Guard said it has to follow the law and collect the money.
"At the end of the day, the soldiers ended up paying the largest price," Maj. Gen. Matthew Beevers, deputy commander of the California Guard told the Times. "We'd be more than happy to absolve these people of their debts. We just can't do it. We'd be breaking the law."
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-10-26 9:59 AM
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My question is what about the $$ they've already collected from the soldiers?  That should be returned to them.... this is such a disgrace to us all!  Of all the ways they could save $$, they're stooping to this crap?  WTH? 
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