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Location: Missouri | Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama? |
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Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama?
No, if she has to resign or is impeached AND convicted, we are still stuck with Tim Kaine. Our only hope is she is not elected.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2016-10-28 1:14 PM Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama? No, if she has to resign or is impeached AND convicted, we are still stuck with Tim Kaine. Our only hope is she is not elected. Trump, you sonnavabi!ch, keep your mouth shut and stay on message!
LOL....you are FINALLY realizing that he "could" be the reason that he loses ...... |
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| Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM
Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama?
She would still be the elected President. However "IF" there is enough to go to grand jury than the congress would start impeachment. Which if the Republican's hold both houses she would be impeached making Kaine President. |
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Bear - 2016-10-28 1:14 PM Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama? No, if she has to resign or is impeached AND convicted, we are still stuck with Tim Kaine. Our only hope is she is not elected. Trump, you sonnavabi!ch, keep your mouth shut and stay on message!
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I hope that they bust her ba**'s this time around..
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama?
From what I have read, it would depend on "when" she was incapacitated (dies, convicted, etc) as to who would succeed. If she were convicted (jailed) prior to the Congress ratifying the electoral vote in December, the delegates "may" (unless prohibited by their own state law) may vote for whoever....If she is convicted AFTER the vote is ratified and before inauguration, the VP moves to the position of President. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2016-10-28 1:21 PM NJJ - 2016-10-28 1:16 PM Bear - 2016-10-28 1:14 PM Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama? No, if she has to resign or is impeached AND convicted, we are still stuck with Tim Kaine. Our only hope is she is not elected. Trump, you sonnavabi!ch, keep your mouth shut and stay on message! I'm sure this news makes you depressed, Norma.
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Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up.
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| jbhoot - 2016-10-28 6:15 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:02 PM Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up. That is for sure.
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jbhoot - 2016-10-28 6:15 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:02 PM Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up. That is for sure.
But the timing of this is just bizarre. If it was just a CYA, I'd think they would have done something earlier, but then again his investigation surely will go well beyond Nov 11. |
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| Bear - 2016-10-28 6:51 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:35 PM jbhoot - 2016-10-28 6:15 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:02 PM Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up. That is for sure. But the timing of this is just bizarre. If it was just a CYA, I'd think they would have done something earlier, but then again his investigation surely will go well beyond Nov 11.
What I'm saying is that it's so significant that it's impossible for the FBI to ignore. |
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jbhoot - 2016-10-28 6:15 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:02 PM Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up. That is for sure.
Comey just put his head on the chopping block this has to be something really big. |
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| jbhoot - 2016-10-28 7:17 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:35 PM jbhoot - 2016-10-28 6:15 PM TXBO - 2016-10-28 6:02 PM Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up. That is for sure. Comey just put his head on the chopping block this has to be something really big.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Tbred - 2016-10-28 2:28 PM I've not paid much attention to running mates. So do I hate Kain as much as I hate her? Or is he not as bad? Just in case, lol I want to be prepared. I trust ya'lls opinion, so if you say we hate him too, I'm with ya!
He's pretty nasty. A pretend catholic with a left eyebrow that is apparently possessed by demons. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-28 8:08 PM Tbred - 2016-10-28 2:28 PM I've not paid much attention to running mates. So do I hate Kain as much as I hate her? Or is he not as bad? Just in case, lol I want to be prepared. I trust ya'lls opinion, so if you say we hate him too, I'm with ya! He's pretty nasty. A pretend catholic with a left eyebrow that is apparently possessed by demons.
He's a real creeper. It would like putting the Joker in Batman in charge. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-28 8:08 PM Tbred - 2016-10-28 2:28 PM I've not paid much attention to running mates. So do I hate Kain as much as I hate her? Or is he not as bad? Just in case, lol I want to be prepared. I trust ya'lls opinion, so if you say we hate him too, I'm with ya! He's pretty nasty. A pretend catholic with a left eyebrow that is apparently possessed by demons.
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I keep chuckling at the notion of a Clinton being brought to justice by a Weiner....besides Bill's.
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I keep chuckling at the notion of a Clinton being brought to justice by a Weiner....besides Bill's.
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Bear - 2016-10-28 9:36 PM I keep chuckling at the notion of a Clinton being brought to justice by a Weiner....besides Bill's.
I've heard she doesn't care for Weiners.
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If Hillary is elected and she then winds up getting convicted, it will be the first time in history where we have both a husband and wife getting elected as POTUS.....and both will be ruined by wieners......Bill's and Anthony's.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | TXBO - 2016-10-28 7:02 PM Unless there was something significant, there's no way the FBI would open this back up.
.Gov employess are going to CYA
Comey knows if there is something there and he does nothing this time the nukes land on him.
He nukes her, trump wins and guess who the biggest Comey fan of all is?
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Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM
Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama?
No, if she has to resign or is impeached AND convicted, we are still stuck with Tim Kaine. Our only hope is she is not elected.
Trump, you sonnavabi!ch, keep your mouth shut and stay on message!
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Location: The Great Northwest | Frodo - 2016-10-29 6:35 AM Don't forget Huma and her mother Saleha Mahmood Abedin are Muslim and worked for a radical Muslim publication with anti-women's rights leanings. Lovely people have had access to Hillary's e-mails.
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Location: The Great Northwest | Bear - 2016-10-28 11:14 AM Tbred - 2016-10-28 12:37 PM Okay so let's say Killery wins the election and the FBI has evidence to convict or whatever they'd do to her, before she's sworn in. Then does the Donald win? or does her VP choice? Or do we have 4 more years of Obama? No, if she has to resign or is impeached AND convicted, we are still stuck with Tim Kaine. Our only hope is she is not elected. Trump, you sonnavabi!ch, keep your mouth shut and stay on message!
Donald Trump is not political correct but has shown he handles his mouth well. I believe by now he knows what he is doing! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | skye - 2016-10-29 11:22 AM Frodo - 2016-10-29 6:35 AM Don't forget Huma and her mother Saleha Mahmood Abedin are Muslim and worked for a radical Muslim publication with anti-women's rights leanings. Lovely people have had access to Hillary's e-mails.
OMG - This is the kind of company Killery calls her best friend.
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Location: The Great Northwest | Hillery IS a criminal and has a laundry list of laws she has broke. This case needs to be given to a Grand Jury to decide whether she proceeds to trial. Comey's mistake was to be judge and jury himself. The SYSTEM is designed to give others a chance to decide not the FBI. That's where Comey went wrong in July. I would say Trump know this. We are a Republic not a Democracy. |
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skye - 2016-10-29 11:22 AM Frodo - 2016-10-29 6:35 AM Don't forget Huma and her mother Saleha Mahmood Abedin are Muslim and worked for a radical Muslim publication with anti-women's rights leanings. Lovely people have had access to Hillary's e-mails.
OMG - This is the kind of company Killery calls her best friend.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-29 11:41 AM skye - 2016-10-29 11:22 AM Frodo - 2016-10-29 6:35 AM Don't forget Huma and her mother Saleha Mahmood Abedin are Muslim and worked for a radical Muslim publication with anti-women's rights leanings. Lovely people have had access to Hillary's e-mails.
OMG - This is the kind of company Killery calls her best friend.
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Loretta Lynch has denied warrant to actually read and assess emails. Interesting!
OK, well if that's true, she just gave Trump all the ammo he needs to legitimately use this scandal very effectively for the next 10 days.
This morning's article on Fox says that, according to the Clinton campaign, Huma Abedin "searched hard for all their devices that might contain pertinent emails". How hard should it be to find all the devices we have that might contain emails? How many devices did they have, for God's sake?
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Loretta Lynch has denied warrant to actually read and assess emails. Interesting!
But Congress can. And for sure they will call Comey in front of every committee starting Monday morning. Will it be public no but in closed session which always leaks. What a strange election LOL. Clinton may be the only President sworn in on jan.20th and under impeachment on jan. 21st.......UNREAL!!!! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Lynch recused herself from the investigation back in July, in the aftermath of her meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, where they chit chatted about grand children. She knows she recused herself.
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Location: OH. IO | Bear - 2016-10-30 9:51 AM
Lynch recused herself from the investigation back in July, in the aftermath of her meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, where they chit chatted about grand children. She knows she recused herself.
I have this vision of Hillary being hauled off in handcuffs after her inaugural address. Better yet, I have this vision of her giving her concession speech on Tuesday.....with the FBI waiting behind her, arms folded, handcuffs in hand.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jake16 - 2016-10-30 9:38 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 9:51 AM Lynch recused herself from the investigation back in July, in the aftermath of her meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, where they chit chatted about grand children. She knows she recused herself. I have this vision of Hillary being hauled off in handcuffs after her inaugural address. Better yet, I have this vision of her giving her concession speech on Tuesday.....with the FBI waiting behind her, arms folded, handcuffs in hand. Tuesday would be good......
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world.
Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | This investigation needs to have full attention now. Clinton looking for loop-holes to hide her scandalous ways needs to end before America gets her in the White House. There just has to be something there to end her bid. I bet she will cause America a lot of money in more investigations and trials then the cost to keep her in prison. |
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Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world.
Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long.
I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2016-10-30 11:14 AM NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this.
OK....I will put it this way .....what happens if EITHER candidate (since you seem to be so testy over Trump) starts lawsuits and ties up the ratification....Obama stay in office? I can't find any legal precedent ..... |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2016-10-30 12:15 PM I don't know. All I can say is look to 2000 to get an idea. It can come from either candidate...yours or mine.
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Bear - 2016-10-30 11:14 AM NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this.
Since the President and the Vice President are not allowed to serve past their second term as per the Constitution it would fall to Congress as per the XX Amendment to determine who shall act as President until the elected President can be qualified. Most likely the new speaker of the house since they take their oath on the third of jan. |
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Location: Ky | Bear - 2016-10-30 11:14 AM NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this.
That's nowhere near what happened in 2000. The election outcome was not decided as all the ballots had not been counted. Yes, the democrats wanted all votes counted. The republicans did not.
It went to the supreme court and the the tie vote was broken by W's daddy's appointee. Talk about cooked and rigged?
And btw, Gore won the election. he won the popular vote and would have won the electoral college if all of Florida's votes had been counted.
So, "both sides" are not prone to this. It's only the GOP that rigs elections. They don't even want everyone registered now. If they could it would only be white males over age 40 and upper income that could vote. |
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Obama would still leave office on Jan 20, 2017. Normal protocal would determine who is the acting president until the election is certified. |
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Location: Ky | NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:00 AM jake16 - 2016-10-30 9:38 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 9:51 AM Lynch recused herself from the investigation back in July, in the aftermath of her meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac, where they chit chatted about grand children. She knows she recused herself. I have this vision of Hillary being hauled off in handcuffs after her inaugural address. Better yet, I have this vision of her giving her concession speech on Tuesday.....with the FBI waiting behind her, arms folded, handcuffs in hand. Tuesday would be good......
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| As I was watching Fox news EARLY this morning a reporter made reference to a specific file folder labeled "life insurance" on Weiners computer. The reference was only made once. I kept watching to see if they said it again. Interesting title. Since we're dealing with the Clinton's, you can't help but wonder if Huma Abedin was saving them to protect herself or if Weiner was to blackmail them later on should he need to? |
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| jd&ez - 2016-10-30 2:48 PM
Bear - 2016-10-30 11:14 AM NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this.
It went to the supreme court and the the tie vote was broken by W's daddy's appointee. Talk about cooked and rigged?
And btw, Gore won the election. he won the popular vote and would have won the electoral college if all of Florida's votes had been counted.
So, "both sides" are not prone to this. It's only the GOP that rigs elections. They don't even want everyone registered now. If they could it would only be white males over age 40 and upper income that could vote.
As usual you are wrong Gore never asked for a total recount he only asked for the under count. Gore did not win the popular vote in Fl. and that was the only thing that counts to get the elector votes for that state. Winning the popular vote nation wide has zero to do with the elector votes never has and never will unless you change the constitution. As to you comment as to ONLY the GOP rig's elections you might try reading a little history or do you like most Dem's forget about when Daily rigged the 1960 election hence giving JFK the state of ILL. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | jd&ez - 2016-10-30 3:48 PM Bear - 2016-10-30 11:14 AM NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this.
It went to the supreme court and the the tie vote was broken by W's daddy's appointee. Talk about cooked and rigged?
And btw, Gore won the election. he won the popular vote and would have won the electoral college if all of Florida's votes had been counted.
So, "both sides" are not prone to this. It's only the GOP that rigs elections. They don't even want everyone registered now. If they could it would only be white males over age 40 and upper income that could vote.
I'm sure I will regret this but I have to ask.
Why should people with no skin in the game be allowed to vote?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2016-10-30 2:48 PM
Bear - 2016-10-30 11:14 AM NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world. Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long. I think the worse case scenario would be like Florida in 2000. If the outcome of the entire elected hinges on a couple thousand votes in one crucial state, then either side would most likely contest the results at the slightest suggestion of irregularity, regardless of who wins. To ask candidates if they would absolutely accept the results was a dumb question to begin with. To refresh your memory, look back at who refused the outcome of 2000. It was the Gore camp. Both sides are prone to this.
It went to the supreme court and the the tie vote was broken by W's daddy's appointee. Talk about cooked and rigged?
And btw, Gore won the election. he won the popular vote and would have won the electoral college if all of Florida's votes had been counted.
So, "both sides" are not prone to this. It's only the GOP that rigs elections. They don't even want everyone registered now. If they could it would only be white males over age 40 and upper income that could vote.
No, Poindexter, that's not how winners of the Presidrntial election are determined in this country. Yes, to be precise, Gore won the popular vote. No, he lost the electoral college vote, and the election.
Democrats want to do everything to enable felons to vote in Virginia. Democrats want voting rights for illegal aliens in California.
Democrats oppose voter ID laws, under the guise of "discrimination".
Also, Mr Yellow Dog, you can knock off the racist remarks about "whites". Yes, that is racist. |
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Location: OH. IO | I don't think anything will come out of this.they are giving plenty of time to delete emails this time around as well. |
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Location: North Texas | NJJ - 2016-10-30 10:59 AM
Bear - 2016-10-30 10:40 AM .......and the investigation will go on for years, most likely, before any impeachment proceedings. The stench of Clinton Inc will stink up the country, if not the world.
Exactly !!! My question is....What happens if Trump loses the election and then ties up the "electoral proceedings" with lawsuits (nationwide or in certain states)? Does Obama STAY in office ???? I can remember that the Gore/Bush Florida debacle held the ratification for a month or so but not long.
And 'this' is The Constitutional Question of ALL HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| This newest fiasco has caused Hillary quite a bit of damage. What I don't understand are people who vote their party no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT. Tell, me what good does that serve?
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| Fox is reporting this morning that Huma's computer has (get this) 650,000 emails on it!!!!! And the FBI has expanded it's case of pay for play on the Clinton foundation to 6 offices. LOL!!!! And Huma who has been attached at the hip of Hillary for 20 years is now off the trail and in hiding. Maybe just maybe the Clinton Crime family is finally going down this time.....We can only hope. |
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| jbhoot - 2016-11-01 5:03 AM Fox is reporting this morning that Huma's computer has (get this) 650,000 emails on it!!!!! And the FBI has expanded it's case of pay for play on the Clinton foundation to 6 offices. LOL!!!! And Huma who has been attached at the hip of Hillary for 20 years is now off the trail and in hiding. Maybe just maybe the Clinton Crime family is finally going down this time.....We can only hope.
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Location: Kansas | RidenFly - 2016-10-31 6:51 AM This newest fiasco has caused Hillary quite a bit of damage. What I don't understand are people who vote their party no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT. Tell, me what good does that serve?
I heard this comment the other day in an interview with a Democrat: "I'll vote for Hillary no matter what she's done short of murder."
Hey Democrat keep up......there are skeletons in her closet.
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| RidenFly - 2016-10-31 7:14 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-01 5:03 AM Fox is reporting this morning that Huma's computer has (get this) 650,000 emails on it!!!!! And the FBI has expanded it's case of pay for play on the Clinton foundation to 6 offices. LOL!!!! And Huma who has been attached at the hip of Hillary for 20 years is now off the trail and in hiding. Maybe just maybe the Clinton Crime family is finally going down this time.....We can only hope.
Didn't they order Huma to speak or face possible arrest?
You can't order anyone to speak. Only a judge can hold you in contempt if you refuse to speak to the court after you have been ordered to do so. This case hasn't gone that far yet. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Look for Clinton counter attacks in the next 24-48 hours. They are going to try baiting him with more bimbo accusations for sure. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Trumps tax returns turn up somehow. This is crunch time and voting is ongoing.
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| Bear - 2016-10-31 8:09 AM
Look for Clinton counter attacks in the next 24-48 hours. They are going to try baiting him with more bimbo accusations for sure. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Trumps tax returns turn up somehow. This is crunch time and voting is ongoing.
Clinton, Inc will counterattack.
That is for sure. This is better than any soap opera ever LOL. How in the heck can someone be stupid enough to forward 650,000 emails to Carlos Danger for back up Good lord the arrogance and stupidity is beyond believe. |
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| Bear - 2016-10-31 8:09 AM
Look for Clinton counter attacks in the next 24-48 hours. They are going to try baiting him with more bimbo accusations for sure. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Trumps tax returns turn up somehow. This is crunch time and voting is ongoing.
Clinton, Inc will counterattack.
I look for there to be a "diversion" - some terrorist attack, some white cop shooting a black, something to divert the attention from this. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Donna Brazile needs to be dumped by the DNC for all the lies and BS that is also being uncovered. I do have to say...I couldn't stand her the first time she ever opened her mouth on TV. She is another Dem that you know if her lips are moving, she is lying. |
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Location: TEXAS | What is wrong with people in North Carolina?? Are they just that stupid?? She still has a lead there!  |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-10-31 12:33 PM
I'm just waiting to see if all the people who promised to LEAVE if Trump were president actually do it. My guess is no, they were all talk.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | If any of you have ever read anything written by Mark Steyn, or heard him on the radio, you know he's pretty sharp and very funny. I just read an article he wrote entitled "Acchem's Weiner", (a reference to "Acchem's Razor). His theory is that Anthony Weiner had all these 650,000 emails that were on their laptop, and maybe he kept them as a tool to avoid prosecution by the DOJ over his sexting with a 15 yr old girl. That could easily explain why Comey knew he had to re-open the Hillary email/server investigation, because maybe they stumbled across emails that the thought had been totally wiped out with the "bleach bit". It could be that FBI agents inadvertently stumbled across something very incriminating that was urgent, in light of their decision not to recommend an indictment last summer.
I'll see if I can C&P it. Here it is. Just read it!
http://www.steynonline.com/7577/occam-weiner
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Location: Windoming | Bear - 2016-10-31 12:20 PM If any of you have ever read anything written by Mark Steyn, or heard him on the radio, you know he's pretty sharp and very funny. I just read an article he wrote entitled "Acchem's Weiner", (a reference to "Acchem's Razor ). His theory is that Anthony Weiner had all these 650,000 emails that were on their laptop, and maybe he kept them as a tool to avoid prosecution by the DOJ over his sexting with a 15 yr old girl. That could easily explain why Comey knew he had to re-open the Hillary email/server investigation, because maybe they stumbled across emails that the thought had been totally wiped out with the "bleach bit". It could be that FBI agents inadvertently stumbled across something very incriminating that was urgent, in light of their decision not to recommend an indictment last summer. I'll see if I can C&P it. Here it is. Just read it! http://www.steynonline.com/7577/occam-weiner
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2016-10-31 2:07 PM
I'm just gonna leave this here and walk away.
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Location: The Great Northwest | The investigation is on Huma Abeten not Hillary? They could later open an investigation on Hillary if find evidence to do it?  |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Bear - 2016-10-31 9:09 AM Look for Clinton counter attacks in the next 24-48 hours. They are going to try baiting him with more bimbo accusations for sure. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Trumps tax returns turn up somehow. This is crunch time and voting is ongoing. Clinton, Inc will counterattack.
Do you think this is the best they have?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-missing-emails/ar-AAjDm2V?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=AARDHP
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | iloveequine40 - 2016-10-31 1:00 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-10-31 12:33 PM I'm just waiting to see if all the people who promised to LEAVE if Trump were president actually do it. My guess is no, they were all talk. Hillary's the leader of that club!
There were alot that said the same thing when Bush came into office, but they are still here, lol.. Since they are Dem's you cant believe a darn word they say, lol.. They talk a good talk thou,  |
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Election fraud. Spread this everywhere.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | John Podesta said in one of his emails that Hillary smells bad. He said she smells like "boiled cabbage, urine, and farts". |
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| Bear - 2016-10-31 6:50 PM
John Podesta said in one of his emails that Hillary smells bad. He said she smells like "boiled cabbage, urine, and farts".
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| Bear - 2016-10-31 6:50 PM John Podesta said in one of his emails that Hillary smells bad. He said she smells like "boiled cabbage, urine, and farts".
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| There are some rumors flying right now that some of what the NYPD is investigating has to do with Epstine . If this is true we might see Trump try to back away from this because both he and Bill have ties to Epstine. This is not confirmed though. |
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| It's amazing to me how "threatening" Hillary sounds when she talks about the FBI - I mean, this is THE FBI and she acts like they have NO BUSINESS investigating her, "they are wasting their time and they're NOT going to find anything just like the LAST investigation" - the gall! WOW I'd probably just have to put threatening messages on my facebook about the FBI and they'd be at MY door.. I would think (HOPE) they have plenty of new information or they wouldn't be wasting their time either. Unfortunate for HER that it's this close to the election BUT people that worship her don't seem to give a $HIT what she's done and they don't seem a bit swayed - SCARY and sad that she has THAT sort of grip on her followers. |
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Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate.
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Location: TEXAS | IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM
I Voted-
Did not use the 'straight party' vote!
Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate.
And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
So you're part of the problem with this country....TROLL! |
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I also didn't use the straight party ticket for 2 reasons
I took great pride in voting against Hillary and her ilk (democrats)
And because I was afraid if I voted straight republican and NOT individual republican my vote would be changed to straight democrat like what happened to the family in Amarillo.
I am really happy to not vote for Hillary/Saudi ticket.
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Location: The Great Northwest | IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 9:14 AM
I Voted-
Did not use the 'straight party' vote!
Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate.
And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
You are as INSANE as Hillary and that corrupt government. America is and will be in a serious decline with current government.
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Location: East Texas | IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM
I Voted-
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Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate.
And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
I hate to burst your happy bubble... put I took great pride by checking off every Republican vote I had available to me. Your vote is now cancelled! |
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| IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM
I Voted-
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And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
Just one question have ever read the Constitution? |
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| horsesinharleton - 2016-11-01 11:27 AM
IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM
I Voted-
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Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate.
And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
I hate to burst your happy bubble... put I took great pride by checking off every Republican vote I had available to me. Your vote is now cancelled!
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IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM
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Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate.
And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
Just one question have ever read the Constitution?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM
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And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN
You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too. |
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Location: Florida | Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
I didn't vote straight ticket and I am a independent. I took great pride in voting for Hillary, the first woman president of the USA. Now we have caught up with the rest of the world, and yes, even muslim countries, who have elected the best leader without looking at gender.
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Location: East Texas | Vickie, it's okay... there are enough of us Deplorables that we have cancelled your vote, as well, but you go on and keep taking pride in Hillary!
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Location: OH. IO | Vickie - 2016-11-01 1:04 PM
Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
As a female I'm.appaled at this.i take it you don't have the guts to watch the partial birth abortions.DISCUSTING |
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Location: SE KS | Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
She is not for women - even though you may thinks she is .............
This woman is not qualified to be president - she thinks she is above the law, (FBI) she will try to remove the 2nd amendment, she is for abortion (full term) the list goes, and not to mention off the corrruptness that will continue for the next 8 years of her term..................
TRUMP/PENCE all the way
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Location: TEXAS | Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
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| Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM
Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
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| I still do not know what I will be doing come voting day. Maybe vote for Gary Johnson. Hopefully we get enough people to do that and libertarian party can get funding for the next election. I dunno. All of my family voted for Sanders along with me. Now they are voting Trump. Not because they like him or think he will make a good president. They think he will bring down the government faster than Hillary and then we can start a new. |
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| SloRide - 2016-11-01 1:27 PM
I still do not know what I will be doing come voting day. Maybe vote for Gary Johnson. Hopefully we get enough people to do that and libertarian party can get funding for the next election. I dunno. All of my family voted for Sanders along with me. Now they are voting Trump. Not because they like him or think he will make a good president. They think he will bring down the government faster than Hillary and then we can start a new.
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| SloRide - 2016-11-01 1:27 PM
I still do not know what I will be doing come voting day. Maybe vote for Gary Johnson. Hopefully we get enough people to do that and libertarian party can get funding for the next election. I dunno. All of my family voted for Sanders along with me. Now they are voting Trump. Not because they like him or think he will make a good president. They think he will bring down the government faster than Hillary and then we can start a new.
What was it that you liked about Sanders policies? I didn't really pay attention to the Democrats this time and would like to know what his appeal was. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Vickie - 2016-11-01 1:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
At least you could have said one thing she has done correct, besides being able to give birth.
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| Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM
Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Voting for Hillary because she's a women is just as sexist as not voting for her because she's a women.... You have successfully contributed to sexism!
Surely you educated yourself on the issues we are facing and can provide reasoning on why you support her other than "she's a women". If not, you are very ignorant to what she represents.
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| I would love to see a woman become President, but not her! IMO she is a liar and I don't trust her!
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Location: Kansas | FlyingJT - 2016-11-01 1:38 PM Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Voting for Hillary because she's a women is just as sexist as not voting for her because she's a women.... You have successfully contributed to sexism! Surely you educated yourself on the issues we are facing and can provide reasoning on why you support her other than "she's a women". If not, you are very ignorant to what she represents.
Here is Bear's analogy: "Voting for Hillary because she's a woman is like eating a turd because it looks like a Tootie Roll."
You cast your vote on issues and the strength behind the candidate.... not gender.
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| SloRide - 2016-11-01 1:27 PM
I still do not know what I will be doing come voting day. Maybe vote for Gary Johnson. Hopefully we get enough people to do that and libertarian party can get funding for the next election. I dunno. All of my family voted for Sanders along with me. Now they are voting Trump. Not because they like him or think he will make a good president. They think he will bring down the government faster than Hillary and then we can start a new.
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| I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me.
He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care.
I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security.
I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals.
I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject.
I like is views on caring for our vets and using them responsibly.
Prochoice
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Anti TPP
Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies.
He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there.
But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2016-11-01 1:59 PM We've reached a new low in substandard intelligence. 4 years ago we elected a man because he has dark skin. As if that wasn't stupid enough, we now have a subspecies living among us who feel they are more advanced because they decide someone should be elected president because she has a vagina, rather than a pair of nuts. It means nothing that she is the most corrupt congenital liar in the history of presidential politics. She is a victim....a receptacle. Reverse Darwinism on full display here folks.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | SloRide - 2016-11-01 2:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. I like is views on caring for our vets and using them responsibly. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
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| SloRide - 2016-11-01 2:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
I don't disagree that everyone should have an opportunity to higher education however The federal government is the last entity that should be in charge of it I can't think of one organization that they run efficiently and without corruption current healthcare for example. I also believe that people should have some "skin" in the game even if it is minimal. Having to work even a little to pay for your education is a great motivator, a great lesson and encourages a good work ethic. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | We already have free college.....it's called the GI Bill. But never mind. Don't let me discourage anyone from their goal of a socialist utopia where all the chirrens are treated the same and all outcomes are the same, and everyone gets free healthcare. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | SloRide - 2016-11-01 11:27 AM I still do not know what I will be doing come voting day. Maybe vote for Gary Johnson. Hopefully we get enough people to do that and libertarian party can get funding for the next election. I dunno. All of my family voted for Sanders along with me. Now they are voting Trump. Not because they like him or think he will make a good president. They think he will bring down the government faster than Hillary and then we can start a new.
POOR Bernie! It is because of Hillary and corruptness that Bernie lost. She wins even though it looks like she is loseing!
Mr. Trump is going to drain the swamp in and around the White House. I have confidence that Trump will make much better decisions. America will be on the UP to be Great Again. |
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| 3canstorun - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM
SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots.
I didn't say free college, I said debt free college. I am aware that would come from taxes. But instead of raising taxes his plan was to better prioritize how our taxes money is spent. I am sure there is a detailed Sanders economic plan somewhere online. I just do not feel like digging it up right now because it is a moot point. Trump and Clinton are our options now. Try and pick the least deplorable of the two lol.
No the world was not meant to be fair. The world does not have a conscience, it does not think in terms of good and bad. But we do and if we can make the people in our country more educated, healthy, equal and even a little more fair, why shouldn't we? |
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | It chills my blood when people claim to be against Israel. For far too many reasons to list here.
How anyone could think that a one payer system is a good thing is spooky to me. Mainly because we didn't need "Health Care Reform" we needed Tort reform. We needed big $$ out of health care - not sure how but it needed to be done.
It's like the ELD mandate for trucks. Ok so the Feds are lining the pockets of the ELD companies (vice versa) and costing Me MONEY in the name of "safety" It won't make a d@mn thing safer. So saying that we have Global Warming, when you study Geology, the myth is De-bunked. Enviornmental health is important, but putting people out of work, making goods more expensive doesn't make sense.
Take for instance the "diesel particulate filter" on a semi. The maintenance costs are THOUSANDS on those, also the number of trucks that BURN to the gound is rather large. So by reducing the emissions on one truck by .01% (I don't know what the number acctually is) but letting the sucker, plastic, fiberglass etc burn to the ground because it's a ridiculous system.... Negates any positives.
I'll vote Trump, because a Country without boarders - isn't a Country. I'll Vote for economic growth, and jobs. |
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| Lucylouwon - 2016-11-01 2:42 PM
It chills my blood when people claim to be against Israel. For far too many reasons to list here.
How anyone could think that a one payer system is a good thing is spooky to me. Mainly because we didn't need "Health Care Reform" we needed Tort reform. We needed big $$ out of health care - not sure how but it needed to be done.
It's like the ELD mandate for trucks. Ok so the Feds are lining the pockets of the ELD companies (vice versa) and costing Me MONEY in the name of "safety" It won't make a d@mn thing safer. So saying that we have Global Warming, when you study Geology, the myth is De-bunked. Enviornmental health is important, but putting people out of work, making goods more expensive doesn't make sense.
Take for instance the "diesel particulate filter" on a semi. The maintenance costs are THOUSANDS on those, also the number of trucks that BURN to the gound is rather large. So by reducing the emissions on one truck by .01% (I don't know what the number acctually is) but letting the sucker, plastic, fiberglass etc burn to the ground because it's a ridiculous system.... Negates any positives.
I'll vote Trump, because a Country without boarders - isn't a Country. I'll Vote for economic growth, and jobs.
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| Whoa U SOB - 2016-11-01 2:56 PM
Lucylouwon - 2016-11-01 2:42 PM
It chills my blood when people claim to be against Israel. For far too many reasons to list here.
How anyone could think that a one payer system is a good thing is spooky to me. Mainly because we didn't need "Health Care Reform" we needed Tort reform. We needed big $$ out of health care - not sure how but it needed to be done.
It's like the ELD mandate for trucks. Ok so the Feds are lining the pockets of the ELD companies (vice versa) and costing Me MONEY in the name of "safety" It won't make a d@mn thing safer. So saying that we have Global Warming, when you study Geology, the myth is De-bunked. Enviornmental health is important, but putting people out of work, making goods more expensive doesn't make sense.
Take for instance the "diesel particulate filter" on a semi. The maintenance costs are THOUSANDS on those, also the number of trucks that BURN to the gound is rather large. So by reducing the emissions on one truck by .01% (I don't know what the number acctually is) but letting the sucker, plastic, fiberglass etc burn to the ground because it's a ridiculous system.... Negates any positives.
I'll vote Trump, because a Country without boarders - isn't a Country. I'll Vote for economic growth, and jobs.
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| SloRide - 2016-11-01 2:11 PM
I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me.
He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care.
I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security.
I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals.
I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject.
I like is views on caring for our vets and using them responsibly.
Prochoice
Pro gay rights
Anti TPP
Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies.
He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there.
But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
Thank you for the reply. I do not nor will not support a democratic socialist BUT I do appreciate and respect your reasons. I understood what you were saying and I really appreciated that you respected me enough to not call me names. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Let me get this straight. The Bernie cult claims to be loyal to the man. Hillary and her corrupt cronies screw him royally and he ends up getting used like a whore to give the appearance that Hillary was not the anointed one. The media stacks the deck. The DNC emails show how they think he is a crazy fool. How does the Bernie cult react to his getting the shaft? Why naturally.....they throw their support behind the perpetrator. They followed Bernie's orders like good little subservient lemmings. No outrage on how their beloved candidate was played like a cheap fiddle. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
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| There was a lot of outrage and still is. I see a lot of it on reddit and Facebook. They are angry at the DNC, will not support Hillary at all. Like I said, my whole family voted for Bernie. 20 of my family members agreed on something. That has never happened lol. Not one of them are voting for Hillary. Some are going 3rd party, some are writing Bernie in and the rest are for Trump. I know it is a small sample size but it makes me think Hillary did not do well on the Bernie vote.
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Location: Florida | NJJ - 2016-11-01 4:31 PM Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Thank you, that is the most Christian thing I have read here in 15 years. I agree complete, I may not agree with you but I will defend your right to say it. |
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| NJJ - 2016-11-01 3:31 PM
Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
I did not read one comment that called her a name or bullied her.... Every comment was attacking Hillary and the idea that people are voting for her because she is a women.
I meant everything I wrote previously, I hope that Vickie has more reasoning voting for Hillary than "first women president" because I can name a dozen women better qualified to be President than Hillary Clinton. I can also find a dozen candidates that are better qualified than Trump but I'm not voting for Trump solely on the fact that he has a penis...
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Location: TEXAS | NJJ - 2016-11-01 3:31 PM
Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Those same soldiers fought and died for the freedoms of our country that Hillary wants to take away. . . .funny the hypocrisy there |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | slacy09 - 2016-11-01 5:17 PM NJJ - 2016-11-01 3:31 PM Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Those same soldiers fought and died for the freedoms of our country that Hillary wants to take away. . . .funny the hypocrisy there
Funny how YOU missed the point of those who feel that in order to make their point, they have to demean, berate and call people names....and thank you for not doing that !!!! |
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Location: Arkansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM
SloRide - 2016-11-01 2:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. I like is views on caring for our vets and using them responsibly. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
My college was free: it's called a scholarship. I earned it.
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Location: Kansas | NJJ - 2016-11-01 6:34 PM slacy09 - 2016-11-01 5:17 PM NJJ - 2016-11-01 3:31 PM Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Those same soldiers fought and died for the freedoms of our country that Hillary wants to take away. . . .funny the hypocrisy there
NJJ and Mother Teresa......bless you for setting everybody straight. We all thought we were just stating our opinions.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frodo - 2016-11-01 9:40 PM NJJ - 2016-11-01 6:34 PM slacy09 - 2016-11-01 5:17 PM NJJ - 2016-11-01 3:31 PM Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Those same soldiers fought and died for the freedoms of our country that Hillary wants to take away. . . .funny the hypocrisy there
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| Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM
Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
Voting for her just because she is a woman is like eating a TURD because it looks like a Tootsie Roll.
Ohh - Oops - Frodo already said this. I didn't go back and read all the posts before posting.
I would LOVE to see a woman president but NOT HER. It's just like at work, there are MANY VERY brilliant women who work where I work but they tend to promote the "bimbos" because of their looks - (not AT ALL saying Hillary got this far on looks by ANY stretch of the imagination) but WHY can't they promote the ones with brains and credentials??
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This video explains everything we have been seeing unfold before our eyes.....
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-28 12:26 PM
I hope too hel* they have the ba**'s to do something about this, this time around instead of being yellow belly..
Apparently somebody does have the ba**s, watch this video!!
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| The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
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Location: TEXAS | star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you?
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Location: Kansas | Wow, did you see how Hillary went off on Trump supporters at her rallies yesterday. Now we need intervention, are reprehensible, divisive.......and all those other things she has us tagged. She's really scary when she's angry.
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Location: Kansas | slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??
Glenn Beck says Trump will win. I know everyone thinks he's crazy but long before Iraq went to pieces after Obama took our troops out he predicted exactly what would happen and it did. |
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| star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM
The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you?
IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state. |
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| jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
I feel my voice would be heard better from a popular vote - winner take all - type of situation. If I vote against the way my state leans my vote doesn't make a lick of difference. Plus based on population all the midwestern states are heavily out weighed by available Electoral votes of the coastal states. I don't want to argue about the EC, it is what it is, those are just my thoughts on how frustrating it is to hear over and over that Trump is everyone's favorite and everyone hates Hilary, yet she picks up these big states and bam , she wins.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
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Location: TEXAS | star1218 - 2016-11-02 9:27 AM jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
Exactly! Why should the big states with bigger populations always be the ones to decided the president. I feel like the electoral does more of that than a straight popular vote would. |
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Location: TEXAS | Frodo - 2016-11-02 9:10 AM Wow, did you see how Hillary went off on Trump supporters at her rallies yesterday. Now we need intervention, are reprehensible, divisive.......and all those other things she has us tagged. She's really scary when she's angry.
Yes but she says Trump's temperment isn't fit for Presidency.....wow just wow!!! |
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Location: The Great Northwest | Frodo - 2016-11-02 7:10 AM Wow, did you see how Hillary went off on Trump supporters at her rallies yesterday. Now we need intervention, are reprehensible, divisive.......and all those other things she has us tagged. She's really scary when she's angry.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | moorehorses - 2016-11-02 8:34 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-28 12:26 PM I hope too hel* they have the ba**'s to do something about this, this time around instead of being yellow belly.. Apparently somebody does have the ba**s, watch this video!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM&feature=share[/quote...
Holy wow, This sounds a lot more serious then I thought it was. This women is very dangerous, and we thought Obamo was the dangerous one. She is out to do alot more harm then what she already has done.. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??
Because it is in the CONSTITUTION.....you know that document that we all want to uphold .....the failing is that there is no directive in the Constitution to force states to divide their electoral votes in relation to the popular vote. With the exception of just a few states, most are a "winner take all" of the electoral vote. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | NJJ - 2016-11-02 9:55 AM I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
we can all quote wikipedia NJJ
What you left out was his 30 years of service to the nation in intellegence and up till 2012 his presence on the council of foreign relations.... dont you think that maybe he was removed from this circle because they knew or saw him as an impending threat.
his video may have no credence but someone is behind commey opening back up the investagations and hillary is increasingly agitated in highligh reels and feeds of her rallys. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us? |
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 10:28 AM
Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes.
I noticed that the spokesman for the Clinton campaign did not question the authenticity or veracity of Podesta's email. They took a different angle. They tried to say that Podesta meant that the emails had to be "moved" somewhere, as opposed to deleted or destroyed by bleach bit.
When I find rotten food in my fridge, I "dump" it in the trash or the garbage disposal. When I get a copy of my tax return from my accountant, I don't "dump" it.....I move it off my desk and store it where I can find it. When people have things they need to keep, they don't "dump" them.
We are dealing with some corrupt, lying, criminal bastards in this bunch, let me tell you.
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 10:43 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 10:28 AM
Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes.
I noticed that the spokesman for the Clinton campaign did not question the authenticity or veracity of Podesta's email. They took a different angle. They tried to say that Podesta meant that the emails had to be "moved" somewhere, as opposed to deleted or destroyed by bleach bit.
When I find rotten food in my fridge, I "dump" it in the trash or the garbage disposal. When I get a copy of my tax return from my accountant, I don't "dump" it.....I move it off my desk and store it where I can find it. When people have things they need to keep, they don't "dump" them.
We are dealing with some corrupt, lying, criminal bastards in this bunch, let me tell you.
I agree But they will fall back on their usual play book divert ,delay,and attack the accuser. And blackmail is not out of the question. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
This is exactly what has happened in Illinois many times. The cesspool, Chicago, votes Democratic while the rest of the state had more Republicans but we got out voted. I also think the electoral votes should be given accordingly...not winner take all. That is screwed up. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2016-11-02 11:07 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
That's an interesting idea, NTO. Maybe instead of winner take all (with the 2 exceptions of Nebraska and Maine), maybe it should be revised to reflect the congressional districts and states, just like the Great Compromise of 1787. Each state would have 2 electoral votes, just like the Senate, and each congressional district would have 1 electoral vote. I like that. Of course one would have to take into account territories like Puerto Rico, DC, and Guam, but that shouldn't be hard. I think I would actually prefer this. Obviously, that would require a constitutional amendment. |
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| NJJ - 2016-11-02 10:02 AM
slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??
Yet Art. II gives the right to the states to decide how they award the electro votes. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 11:00 AM
Bear - 2016-11-02 10:43 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 10:28 AM
Bear - 2016-11-02 10:15 AM
John Podesta to Cheryl Mills: "We are going to have to dump all these emails."
Isn't that called "obstruction of justice"? Doesn't his statement amount to INTENT to obstruct justice?
If any of us were being investigated by the FBI and knew they were interested in what's on our hard drive, and then either wiped those emails away with "Bleach Bit" or destroyed the hard drive with a hammer, what do you suppose would happen to us?
So true however this is the Clinton's it will get down to the meaning of what "Dumped" is. After all the Clinton's OWN everyone that could do anything about their crimes.
I noticed that the spokesman for the Clinton campaign did not question the authenticity or veracity of Podesta's email. They took a different angle. They tried to say that Podesta meant that the emails had to be "moved" somewhere, as opposed to deleted or destroyed by bleach bit.
When I find rotten food in my fridge, I "dump" it in the trash or the garbage disposal. When I get a copy of my tax return from my accountant, I don't "dump" it.....I move it off my desk and store it where I can find it. When people have things they need to keep, they don't "dump" them.
We are dealing with some corrupt, lying, criminal bastards in this bunch, let me tell you.
I agree But they will fall back on their usual play book divert ,delay,and attack the accuser. And blackmail is not out of the question.
All Hillary is doing out on the stump is try to stir up the anti-Trump voters by calling him sexist, racist, and Islamophobic. She isn't really touting any of her own message or plans....just anti-Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump is hitting back hard on the emails and corruption, followed by his message on his own plans......like repeal and replace ObamaCare. Looks like he's gaining traction. I hope it's enough. |
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 11:17 AM
Nevertooold - 2016-11-02 11:07 AM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
That's an interesting idea, NTO. Maybe instead of winner take all (with the 2 exceptions of Nebraska and Maine ), maybe it should be revised to reflect the congressional districts and states, just like the Great Compromise of 1787. Each state would have 2 electoral votes, just like the Senate, and each congressional district would have 1 electoral vote. I like that. Of course one would have to take into account territories like Puerto Rico, DC, and Guam, but that shouldn't be hard. I think I would actually prefer this. Obviously, that would require a constitutional amendment.
It does not take an Amendment it is spelled out in Art, II it clearly gives the right to the states. What it takes is to get it on the ballot in every state. It can be done but after each Presidentual election everyone looses interest until the next four years rolls around. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | star1218 - 2016-11-02 10:27 AM jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
it would not be heard at all.
With out the current system and a st8 popular vote, the major metro areas in our country would elect every federal official.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-11-02 11:32 AM
star1218 - 2016-11-02 10:27 AM jbhoot - 2016-11-02 9:21 AM star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you? IT was put in place to protect the states with small populations so that their voices would be heard. It was needed than and it is still needed today. However I do think it should be like a few states do by congressional districts instead of winner takes all as most states do. Under the present system there are cases of one city or one congressional district controlling the vote of the entire states elector vote giving no voice to the rest of the state.
you see what I mean, I hope.
Just my thoughts.
With out the current system and a st8 popular vote, the major metro areas in our country would elect every federal official.
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I agree. The basics of this debate goes back as far as the Republic. |
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Location: Arkansas | NJJ - 2016-11-02 8:55 AM
I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
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hillary huma sex ring
Insiders Threaten To Expose “Alleged” Pedophile Sex Ring!!!
All of the following information was given to us by our insiders who have specific first-hand knowledge of the Hillary Email scandal. It seems that things are about to heat up. We are told that of the 662,871 emails lifted from Weiner’s computer, 11,112 emails are Huma… and pay to play- including Saudis and Israeli’s. Meaning Huma was the one Hillary USED to communicate with foreign leaders via email for inside information and deals via Huma’s computer.
It has been established through many avenues, but mainly through Wikileaks, that the Clinton Foundation was just a farce set up in order to perform Pay-to-Play games with multiple entities, including foreign nations. Pay-to-play nations include: Israel, Saudis, Turks, Qatar, kazakhstan, and the Ukraine.
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Futhermore, we are told by one of our insiders that one email unequivocally confirms Isis was created by CIA and Israeli Secret Intelligence service, with help from Joe Lieberman, John McCain and Lindsay Graham!
An NYPD insider said the content they viewed did include State Department TOP SECRET emails. One file was called “Life Insurance”. The second email was titled “DNC Nuclear arsenal”.
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A third file, I’m sure Hillary definitely DOES NOT want released was a file labeled “Intimate” … according to this NYPD insider, this file contained x rated photos of Huma and Hillary with a TEENAGER.
Twitter comments pedophile rings w hillary
NYPD detectives were sickened by what they saw, according to our insider, and they have threatened FBI field agents that they would leak this information, if the FBI did not “step up and take off the kids gloves”. At that point, 13 of the FBI agents in NYC are also threatening to leak the information.
As you can imagine, the scandal has the entire Obama Administration in full panic. We are told there are emails that could send Loretta Lynch to prison, as well as Bill and Hillary.The Twitter post to the right, our sources sent us, verifying it is all true:
Even MORE!
The following information comes straight from an FBI Anonymous source, who is the senior analyst who posted on 4chan in early July of this year:
Jim Comey learned that some of his own investigators were tipping off both Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, thus making his job impossible.
Comey sent a letter to congress knowing that ultimately, it would expose Loretta Lynch as a dirty actor and the bread crumbs would lead directly to Obama. The State Dept is terrified now. He has assembled a small team of 40 agents, whom he has declared the “Untouchables” after the famous federal agent, Eliot Ness.
Comey has clamped down on all FBI agents and he expects a full scale war between FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ), the White House and the State Department. He has confirmed and understands that many sitting senators, congressmen, lobbyists and power players are going to be indicted and prosecuted. One of the main targets of the probe is the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. Among the targets under investigation are Podesta, Huma, Cheryl Mills, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc.
As it turns out, Weiner, Huma’s husband, had been forwarding Huma’s emails each time she came home and left her computer open. Huma appears to have been in touch with Saudi actors, and therefore, ESPIONAGE is strongly suspected.
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Comey and his 40 “Untouchables” are now preparing to take down the largest corruption ever witnessed in American History… which, is what I think MUST happen if Comey is planning to stay part of the FBI. He lost so much respect and so much credibility with the first Hillary investigation, it would take something of this magnitude to allow him to face the public again.
The Pentagon has internal players and outside players they call “creatives”. Creatives are civilians who tend to be geniuses, malcontents, extreme hackers, or otherwise demonstrate brilliance in other useful areas. A Pentagon program called Cicada 3301, which we have reported on previously, was created by several of these talented civilians. The program is now used to allow thousands of honest Government people to report on their corrupt superiors, using what is called a DEAD BOX whistle blower encryption method so the non-corrupted Government officials can report corruption and still remain safe.
I’ve heard it said “A vagina almost took down Bill, now will a Weiner take down Hillary?” LOL!
Again, thank you to all of the insiders, the whistleblowers, the good FBI agents, the good CIA agents, the good NYPD officers and the non-corrupted government officials who want to see the truth exposed! Without these brave, wonderful and morally erect individuals, our country would still be in the corrupted darkness.
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Vistors to Epstein’s St James Island include
•Ehud Barak, the former Prime Minister of Israel (1999-2001) – pedophile being pandered underage girls by Epstein. Former Israeli Minister of Defense and also deputy Israeli prime minister under Binyamin Netanyahu from 2009 to 2013.
•Prince Andrew – British royalty – Jeffrey Epstein and his girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell pandered Epstein sex slave Virginia Roberts to Prince Andrew multiple times. The victim girls say Prince Andrew was very sexually sadistic; they despised this sick, twisted creature.
•Kevin Spacey – actor in House of Cards. People tell me Spacey is gay and my response is “Have you ever heard of the word bisexual?” Spacey very good friends with 2 bigtime pedophiles: Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton. Spacey, big Hollywood star, has 3.78 million Twitter followers.
•Alan Dershowitz – longtime friend of Epstein as well as one of his defense lawyers. Dershowitz was the one who negociated that aburd plea bargain for Epstein that gave him a 13 months (served) sentence and a 16 hour/day day pass so he could spend most of his time in his mansion. Epstein sex slave Virginia Roberts has said that Epstein made her have sex with Dershowitz numerous times. The real question is how many other underage girls was Dershowitz having sex with? Virginia Roberts says Dershowitz also witnessed Epstein’s pedophilic activities.
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Location: North Texas | slacy09 - 2016-11-02 9:08 AM
star1218 - 2016-11-02 8:49 AM The electoral college...sigh....news outlets are saying Trump has basically no path to victory. Is this the case? My vote will correspond with my Republican state and my voice will be heard. But the EC frustrates me because it may not align with the popular vote. This is likely the oldest gripe in the book but some of you are very knowledgable - what say you?
I totally agree....why is is not just straight popular vote??
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Deeemed suicide. Prints on gun are not his.
?FBI is declaring war on HRC
?Also, just breaking; A Boston lawfirm funneled millions into DNC illegally. It just keeps getting crazier.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 1:18 PM Here's what you've been waiting for. The proverbial smoking gun. FBI just released Vince Foster investigation. https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view
Deeemed suicide. Prints on gun are not his.
?FBI is declaring war on HRC
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-02 1:24 PM RidenFly - 2016-11-02 1:18 PM Here's what you've been waiting for. The proverbial smoking gun. FBI just released Vince Foster investigation. https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view
Deeemed suicide. Prints on gun are not his.
?FBI is declaring war on HRC Holy crap balls.
I agree Holy crap balls, lol..This sounded funny..
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | luluwhit - 2016-11-02 10:13 AM NJJ - 2016-11-02 9:55 AM I think that you should do a little background checking before believing this man.....Yes, he has government ties but that ended years ago and he is a writer of FICTION .....here are just a few of his "oops" ......... Edited to add: He is also a very good friend of Assad (Syrian President)
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes."
What you left out was his 30 years of service to the nation in intellegence and up till 2012 his presence on the council of foreign relations.... dont you think that maybe he was removed from this circle because they knew or saw him as an impending threat.
his video may have no credence but someone is behind commey opening back up the investagations and hillary is increasingly agitated in highligh reels and feeds of her rallys.
I think you missed the point regarding this man's recent credibility....and of course, anyone can quote Wikipedia but I am sure I can find LOTS more about this man if I wanted ..... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | All along the focus in Hillary's emails and illegal home server has been that she has passed classified information along through this server. That's not the REAL problem. The REAL problem is the 33,000 emails she thought were deleted or "bleached", because they contained a treasure trove of indisputable, irrefutable, incriminating influence that jeopardized "Clinton Inc." This is looking more and more like Watergate with each passing day. The Clinton Inc tentacles are widespread and far reaching.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:01 PM
Just updated #PodestaEmails
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| Bear - 2016-11-03 12:14 PM RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:01 PM Just updated #PodestaEmails
What does this mean?
Twitter hashtag that is exposing a lot of info on what is being released today, including Vince Foster files by FBI, actual emails, the evidence of pedophile ring on Epstien's plane and private island. There is so much breaking, it's making me sick to read it all. The level of corruption and sickness is staggering. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:41 PM The sex ring is looking to be true. One of the planes used in something called the Lolita express. DOJ KADZIK who gave heads up on Emails promised a job within the DNC/Hillary Camp.
Here's the run down on the Lolita Express.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/ |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 3:16 PM Bear - 2016-11-03 12:14 PM RidenFly - 2016-11-02 2:01 PM Just updated #PodestaEmails
What does this mean?
so why keep reading it?
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Location: TEXAS | So what in the world does all this mean....I mean the big picture?? Is she finally going to prison?? |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 3:24 PM The Clinton's are horrible, sick people. OMG.
YES - they are. |
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| Depends, is this credible or not? The FBI must have learned something pretty explosive or them to reopen the case. One thing I am concerned about is the lack of warrant. These emails were turned over by Anthony. Could a Clinton lawyer argue the lack of a warrant? I know the FBI got one, but that was after the NYPD alerted them.
What I find interesting is the amount of emails. Over 600,000 emails saved. That does not happen on accident. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | SloRide - 2016-11-02 2:58 PM
Depends, is this credible or not? The FBI must have learned something pretty explosive or them to reopen the case. One thing I am concerned about is the lack of warrant. These emails were turned over by Anthony. Could a Clinton lawyer argue the lack of a warrant? I know the FBI got one, but that was after the NYPD alerted them.
What I find interesting is the amount of emails. Over 600,000 emails saved. That does not happen on accident.
Exactly.....650,000 emails. There has to be some very damming evidence, and now they are working on a lead pipe cinch. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Bear - 2016-11-02 3:07 PM SloRide - 2016-11-02 2:58 PM Depends, is this credible or not? The FBI must have learned something pretty explosive or them to reopen the case. One thing I am concerned about is the lack of warrant. These emails were turned over by Anthony. Could a Clinton lawyer argue the lack of a warrant? I know the FBI got one, but that was after the NYPD alerted them. What I find interesting is the amount of emails. Over 600,000 emails saved. That does not happen on accident. Exactly.....650,000 emails. There has to be some very damming evidence, and now they are working on a lead pipe cinch.
Sure could.
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| Interesting Fox is reporting that thru source's at the FBI Hillary's private sever WAS hacked five times by foreign sources. I wonder who North Korea China Iran Russia and the list goes on who knows. Obama insisted that she didn't jeopardize our security. As usual he lied his ass off. I wonder if Hillary still really wants all the emails released before the election LOL As I said before this story is going to be better than the movie the God Father. To be continued..... |
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| Interesting Fox is reporting that thru source's at the FBI Hillary's private sever WAS hacked five times by foreign sources. I wonder who North Korea China Iran Russia and the list goes on who knows. Obama insisted that she didn't jeopardize our security. As usual he lied his ass off. I wonder if Hillary still really wants all the emails released before the election LOL As I said before this story is going to be better than the movie the God Father. To be continued..... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2016-11-02 5:57 PM
Bear - 2016-11-02 3:07 PM SloRide - 2016-11-02 2:58 PM Depends, is this credible or not? The FBI must have learned something pretty explosive or them to reopen the case. One thing I am concerned about is the lack of warrant. These emails were turned over by Anthony. Could a Clinton lawyer argue the lack of a warrant? I know the FBI got one, but that was after the NYPD alerted them. What I find interesting is the amount of emails. Over 600,000 emails saved. That does not happen on accident. Exactly.....650,000 emails. There has to be some very damming evidence, and now they are working on a lead pipe cinch.
Will it hold up in court?
Probably not....
......I sure hope it holds up in one court. The court of public opinion.
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Location: North Texas | There's conjecture that Obama will pardon her.
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| foundation horse - 2016-11-02 6:52 PM
There's conjecture that Obama will pardon her.
He can't unless she is proven guilty before he leaves office. This case will take over a year. Impeachment is more likely if she is convicted. |
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Location: Florida | Five days later and the FBI still doesn't know if there are any Clinton emails on that computer. They haven't found any. Why did this guy make this big announcement before he even had a warrant to see if there were any Clinton emails? Please try to think logically, this was a deliberate attempt to sway the election and God help us, it worked. |
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| Vickie - 2016-11-02 7:17 PM
Five days later and the FBI still doesn't know if there are any Clinton emails on that computer. They haven't found any. Why did this guy make this big announcement before he even had a warrant to see if there were any Clinton emails? Please try to think logically, this was a deliberate attempt to sway the election and God help us, it worked.
Wiener gave them the computer voluntarily when they did a data search is when they found the 650,000 emails at which time they needed a warrant to go farther They got the warrant Sunday evening. But you want to see Hillary's emails three days later. This is a criminal investigation you won't see any emails until they bring a case for indictment. Of course like all of these cases there will be leaks. All 650,000 emails went thru Hillary's server. As you say think logically you think that out of this vast number of emails from her main aide thru her sever that there are not ones from Hillary. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | So Iran's leader says he is sending "elite fighters" to infiltrate the U.S. and Europe?
This is from Fox News.....not exactly some bogus fringe news source:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/02/iran-claims-its-sending-eli... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2016-11-02 7:17 PM
Five days later and the FBI still doesn't know if there are any Clinton emails on that computer. They haven't found any. Why did this guy make this big announcement before he even had a warrant to see if there were any Clinton emails? Please try to think logically, this was a deliberate attempt to sway the election and God help us, it worked.
How the hell do you know what the FBI knows? I've been following this stuff fairly closely, and I don't know what they know, exactly.
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 7:57 PM
So Iran's leader says he is sending "elite fighters" to infiltrate the U.S. and Europe?
This is from Fox News.....not exactly some bogus fringe news source:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/02/iran-claims-its-sending-eli...
I don't think that will work out as well as they think will. I mean, we have the most powerful military in the world so I doubt they would make it that far anyways. If they did they would have the national guard, a huge amount of militarized police and well armed citizens to contend with. Not gonna happen.
Just wanted to edit this to say that my reply function is not working properly for some reason. Edited by SloRide 2016-11-02 8:47 PM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 6:31 PM Interesting Fox is reporting that thru source's at the FBI Hillary's private sever WAS hacked five times by foreign sources. I wonder who North Korea China Iran Russia and the list goes on who knows. Obama insisted that she didn't jeopardize our security. As usual he lied his ass off. I wonder if Hillary still really wants all the emails released before the election LOL As I said before this story is going to be better than the movie the God Father. To be continued.....
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-02 8:53 PM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 6:31 PM Interesting Fox is reporting that thru source's at the FBI Hillary's private sever WAS hacked five times by foreign sources. I wonder who North Korea China Iran Russia and the list goes on who knows. Obama insisted that she didn't jeopardize our security. As usual he lied his ass off. I wonder if Hillary still really wants all the emails released before the election LOL As I said before this story is going to be better than the movie the God Father. To be continued.....
Just noticed your new name jbhoot, thats a good one.
LOL I never thought that when I made that comment a few weeks ago that I would get tagged with it but what the heck I will run with it just because I know it P***s Hillary off. |
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Location: North Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-02 7:12 PM
foundation horse - 2016-11-02 6:52 PM
There's conjecture that Obama will pardon her.
He can't unless she is proven guilty before he leaves office. This case will take over a year. Impeachment is more likely if she is convicted.
I refer back to the 700s when Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon for crimes he committed OR MAY HAVE COMMITTED. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | SloRide - 2016-11-02 8:45 PM
Bear - 2016-11-02 7:57 PM
So Iran's leader says he is sending "elite fighters" to infiltrate the U.S. and Europe?
This is from Fox News.....not exactly some bogus fringe news source:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/02/iran-claims-its-sending-eli...
I don't think that will work out as well as they think will. I mean, we have the most powerful military in the world so I doubt they would make it that far anyways. If they did they would have the national guard, a huge amount of militarized police and well armed citizens to contend with. Not gonna happen.
Just wanted to edit this to say that my reply function is not working properly for some reason.
Of course it won't happen in the conventional sense......but what if they do infiltrate with refugees?
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| foundation horse - 2016-11-02 9:05 PM
jbhoot - 2016-11-02 7:12 PM
foundation horse - 2016-11-02 6:52 PM
There's conjecture that Obama will pardon her.
He can't unless she is proven guilty before he leaves office. This case will take over a year. Impeachment is more likely if she is convicted.
I refer back to the 700s when Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon for crimes he committed OR MAY HAVE COMMITTED.
Not quite the same The case against Nixon had already been brought and impeachment had already been done. The likely hood that this case will be brought before Obama leaves office is slim to none. He can't pardon before the fact. |
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| Bear - 2016-11-02 9:11 PM
SloRide - 2016-11-02 8:45 PM
Bear - 2016-11-02 7:57 PM
So Iran's leader says he is sending "elite fighters" to infiltrate the U.S. and Europe?
This is from Fox News.....not exactly some bogus fringe news source:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/02/iran-claims-its-sending-eli...
I don't think that will work out as well as they think will. I mean, we have the most powerful military in the world so I doubt they would make it that far anyways. If they did they would have the national guard, a huge amount of militarized police and well armed citizens to contend with. Not gonna happen.
Just wanted to edit this to say that my reply function is not working properly for some reason.
Of course it won't happen in the conventional sense......but what if they do infiltrate with refugees?
The real question is why would they make this "announcement"?
Frankly Iran is flipping the middle finger to Obama and a warning us don't elect Trump. The same game they played when Regan was running against Carter. My attitude is bring it the same thing Regan told them. Edited by jbhoot 2016-11-02 9:38 PM
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"Epstein’s little black book and flight logs read like a virtual Who’s Who: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew, and Naomi Campbell all hitched rides on Epstein’s private planes. Socialites and distinguished scientists went to visit Epstein’s island in St. Thomas, and cavorted at epic dinner parties at his palatial townhouse—then the largest privately owned residence in New York, as he liked to brag. There, they picked at elaborate meals catered by celebrity chefs like Rocco DiSpirito, marvelled at Epstein’s opulent decor, and noted the pack of very, very young model-types with whom Epstein always seemed to surround himself."
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pe...
"Epstein’s little black book and flight logs read like a virtual Who’s Who: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew, and Naomi Campbell all hitched rides on Epstein’s private planes. Socialites and distinguished scientists went to visit Epstein’s island in St. Thomas, and cavorted at epic dinner parties at his palatial townhouse—then the largest privately owned residence in New York, as he liked to brag. There, they picked at elaborate meals catered by celebrity chefs like Rocco DiSpirito, marvelled at Epstein’s opulent decor, and noted the pack of very, very young model-types with whom Epstein always seemed to surround himself."
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | RidenFly - 2016-11-02 10:26 PM How could any Democrat remain in denial to the enormous amount of evidence of corruption and depravity? Its disgusting.
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| Vickie - 2016-11-01 12:04 PM
Bear - 2016-11-01 12:55 PM IB1UKNO - 2016-11-01 11:14 AM I Voted- Did not use the 'straight party' vote! Took great pride in voting for each individual DEMOCRATIC candidate. And was joyful in my vote against tRump/pence/PUTIN You are cute, I bet. You just have a certain endearing quality about you. I love your sense of humor too.
VOTING for a woman like Hillary who epitomizes every negative stereotype about women ie dishonest, deceiver, manipulator, evil cold hearted calculated narcissistic sociopath does NOTHING to advance women. Voting for someone based on body parts is irresponsible and quite frankly stupid. |
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| 3canstorun - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM
SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary.
Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots.
Sanders did not say "debt" free he said "tuition" free. As someone paying for her daughter's college right now I can assure you the tuition is the cheapest part. The cost of living is the most expensive. My daughter's tuition/books has been on avg $3k semester. She will graduate next fall. She started at Jr college, transferring to Tarleton after 2 yrs, lived at home, worked and graduates next May with no student loans for. Approximately 25k total for her bachelor's degree.
1) you cannot keep piling debt via "free programs" on the working class bc eventually the $ runs out and we're all screwed
2) there ARE ways to go to college without debt or very little debt. This generation of entitlement and thinking they are owed the full college experience needs to change. Want something, WORK for it |
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Location: Kansas | iloveequine40 - 2016-11-03 8:28 AM 3canstorun - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary. Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots. Sanders did not say "debt" free he said "tuition" free. As someone paying for her daughter's college right now I can assure you the tuition is the cheapest part. The cost of living is the most expensive. My daughter's tuition/books has been on avg $3k semester. She will graduate next fall. She started at Jr college, transferring to Tarleton after 2 yrs, lived at home, worked and graduates next May with no student loans for. Approximately 25k total for her bachelor's degree. 1 ) you cannot keep piling debt via "free programs" on the working class bc eventually the $ runs out and we're all screwed 2 ) there ARE ways to go to college without debt or very little debt. This generation of entitlement and thinking they are owed the full college experience needs to change. Want something, WORK for it
My sister's kids all graduated from Pitt State in Kansas. They worked their little fannies off to help pay the way through school mostly as cooks and waitresses. Now they're all grown up and have wonderful successful lives. They learned ethics and how to take care of business. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Frodo - 2016-11-03 10:35 AM iloveequine40 - 2016-11-03 8:28 AM 3canstorun - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary. Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots. Sanders did not say "debt" free he said "tuition" free. As someone paying for her daughter's college right now I can assure you the tuition is the cheapest part. The cost of living is the most expensive. My daughter's tuition/books has been on avg $3k semester. She will graduate next fall. She started at Jr college, transferring to Tarleton after 2 yrs, lived at home, worked and graduates next May with no student loans for. Approximately 25k total for her bachelor's degree. 1 ) you cannot keep piling debt via "free programs" on the working class bc eventually the $ runs out and we're all screwed 2 ) there ARE ways to go to college without debt or very little debt. This generation of entitlement and thinking they are owed the full college experience needs to change. Want something, WORK for it
My daughter and son both did. Both of them showed livestock while they were in middle/high school. They both worked too. Half of that money went into their savings. They both got scholarships. They also worked during college.
My son has 2 bachelors and my daughter is a Nurse Practioner. Both debt free. They paid for it all. And, before they were 30.
It can be done.
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Location: Nebraska | 3canstorun - 2016-11-03 9:38 AM Frodo - 2016-11-03 10:35 AM iloveequine40 - 2016-11-03 8:28 AM 3canstorun - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary. Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots. Sanders did not say "debt" free he said "tuition" free. As someone paying for her daughter's college right now I can assure you the tuition is the cheapest part. The cost of living is the most expensive. My daughter's tuition/books has been on avg $3k semester. She will graduate next fall. She started at Jr college, transferring to Tarleton after 2 yrs, lived at home, worked and graduates next May with no student loans for. Approximately 25k total for her bachelor's degree. 1 ) you cannot keep piling debt via "free programs" on the working class bc eventually the $ runs out and we're all screwed 2 ) there ARE ways to go to college without debt or very little debt. This generation of entitlement and thinking they are owed the full college experience needs to change. Want something, WORK for it
My son has 2 bachelors and my daughter is a Nurse Practioner. Both debt free. They paid for it all. And, before they were 30.
It can be done.
I graduated from a private nursing school that cost over $13k/year (7 semester total program) with around 22k in loans. I had a full ride to a university where I got all my gen ed's done. It drives me crazy that my generation believes they don't need to work through school and that they can just live off their loan money or their parents. My ex husband told me he couldn't possibly work because he was going to school full time. He was taking crap classes like POWER YOGA. I busted my butt working 20-40 hours a week to put myself through school and still managed to keep my horses, barrel race, and graduate with a 3.8 gpa all while married to a hubby in the military who gave me no money. I was lucky though that my mother allowed me to live at home. |
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| brlracerchick - 2016-11-03 9:54 AM
3canstorun - 2016-11-03 9:38 AM Frodo - 2016-11-03 10:35 AM iloveequine40 - 2016-11-03 8:28 AM 3canstorun - 2016-11-01 2:22 PM SloRide - 2016-11-01 3:11 PM I liked his plan for debt free college. I do understand that it would be harder for people to get into college under that plan. I do not think that is a bad thing. We got a lot of mediocre collage grads that skimmed through in a C average or got worthless degrees from degree mills. I really think anyone should have access to debt free college. The idea that we are passing up on great, leaders, doctors, scientists and teachers because those people are concerned about the financial risk bothers me. He is also for single payer health care. I think we can all agree that health is a of a mess. When you come out of a major health crisis completely bankrupt even when you have insurance, there is something wrong with that set up. Rich or poor, you should get access to health care. I like his views on environmental issues. He said in his first debate that global climate change was the biggest threat to national security. People thought he was mad. Just this month the Pentagon stated that climate change is a growing threat to our national security. I agree with him on immigration. We need to take the incentive out of hiring illegals. We should have legal options for foreign workers too, but we need to have much bigger fines for hiring illegals. I like his stance on guns. I think he is very reasonable on that subject. Prochoice Pro gay rights Anti TPP Doesn't like Netanyahu or much of Israelsome policies. He has good character. People bash on him because he received unemployment benefits when he was younger. When I look at what we have to choose from it kind of makes me laugh. Oh and he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. Scary stuff right there. But it was not meant to be. DNC tossed him under the bus. Rigged their debates and primary. Who do you think is going to pay for Debt Free College? Nothing in this world is free. The government is going to tax the crap out of you to pay for someone else who won't work and raise their own money or get scholarships. You think you will get better doctors, etc by free college? Think again.
Single payor health insurance? How do you think that will work out? You will get taxed more to pay for people who choose not to work. When everything gets handed to people and there are no consequences - i.e., working, you create a bigger problem. Thus, the problem right now we have with entitlements' food stamps, welfare etc.
You think we need more government control on environmental? Again, way off balance.
You need to think about the long term affects of all of what you mentioned. The world isn't fair. And, it was never meant to be. The world wasn't meant to be equal either. It if was - we would all be robots. Sanders did not say "debt" free he said "tuition" free. As someone paying for her daughter's college right now I can assure you the tuition is the cheapest part. The cost of living is the most expensive. My daughter's tuition/books has been on avg $3k semester. She will graduate next fall. She started at Jr college, transferring to Tarleton after 2 yrs, lived at home, worked and graduates next May with no student loans for. Approximately 25k total for her bachelor's degree. 1 ) you cannot keep piling debt via "free programs" on the working class bc eventually the $ runs out and we're all screwed 2 ) there ARE ways to go to college without debt or very little debt. This generation of entitlement and thinking they are owed the full college experience needs to change. Want something, WORK for it
My son has 2 bachelors and my daughter is a Nurse Practioner. Both debt free. They paid for it all. And, before they were 30.
It can be done.
All examples have different circumstances but the end result was very much the same.
I really get frustrated listening to people regurgitate their connotation of what is being said. The only thing people supporting the free college seem to here is FREE. I understand that everything is open to interpretation but let's try to keep it in perspective. I'd also like anyone who supports FREE and public college education go visit a high school classroom full of juniors and seniors to understand how far the "everyone is entitled to a free and public education system" has gotten us. |
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