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Location: Ft Worth TX | Price range on well bred, well broke 4D horse at big shows over 10 ? |
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| 15k+ on a reliable 4d horse who pulls checks at big races. Not a barrel hitter, no gate problems and no drama. That should be worth money for someone who just wants to jackpot in my opinion |
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| I think it depends on where your located 3500. To 5000. Look hard there out there. |
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| I think there's quite a few important points you're missing- Mare/Gelding, how far over ten, youth suitable, what kind of show record they have, how much maintenance is required, how they are to haul, how they are to run, ect.... |
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| AmazingStretch - 2016-11-08 7:06 AM I think there's quite a few important points you're missing- Mare/Gelding, how far over ten, youth suitable, what kind of show record they have, how much maintenance is required, how they are to haul, how they are to run, ect....
agreed.
Also, what else do they do? Poles, roping, can ride around at a show calm, easy to work with at home, etc. And what state? Also, is there more potential not tapped?
Texas, you're probably looking at 10 -15K, Iowa, you're probably looking at 4-5K.
Had a friend buy a solid 4D/5D gelding who was 14 for 3500. He's now 1D/2D with her, previous rider just didn't get along, and/or he took care of rider. Sometimes the price doesn't reflect the true ability.
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Nateracer - 2016-11-08 7:10 AM
AmazingStretch - 2016-11-08 7:06 AM I think there's quite a few important points you're missing- Mare/Gelding, how far over ten, youth suitable, what kind of show record they have, how much maintenance is required, how they are to haul, how they are to run, ect....
agreed.
Also, what else do they do? Poles, roping, can ride around at a show calm, easy to work with at home, etc. And what state? Also, is there more potential not tapped?
Texas, you're probably looking at 10 -15K, Iowa, you're probably looking at 4-5K.
Had a friend buy a solid 4D/5D gelding who was 14 for 3500. He's now 1D/2D with her, previous rider just didn't get along, and/or he took care of rider. Sometimes the price doesn't reflect the true ability.
I purposely left out info because I have not put an ad up for her yet and did not want it to turn into an ad. She's a 12YO race bred mare. Ran at big shows in East Texas and LA. |
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Location: Deep South | Texas Tornado - 2016-11-07 11:43 PM
15k+ on a reliable 4d horse who pulls checks at big races. Not a barrel hitter, no gate problems and no drama. That should be worth money for someone who just wants to jackpot in my opinion
I guess geography definitely plays a huge role in prices when you get into the lower divisions. The only way you would get $15k for a 4D horse in AL is if barrels wasn't it's primary selling point. Like if it was a 20 second pole horse, or a nice rope horse that just so happened to also run barrels. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Around here a 4d horse would be in the price range of 3500 to 4500 maybe. 
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-11-08 9:44 AM
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | if roan or palamino $75k
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-11-08 10:45 AM
if roan or palamino $75k
LMAO!!!!!! Probably some truth to that. |
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Location: Dearing, GA | Scenario around here (Memphis area):
Palomino mare, 4 white socks
8 years old
Consistent top of the 4D at big shows
Decently papered-- well enough to breed later
Absolute babysitter personality
$7,500 |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | We're talking about a horse who is 2seconds off here, correct? Or are we discussing a 4D horse in a 5D format? Typically, if I'm looking for one that will be 2 seconds off at a big show, it is because I have a novice kid, or an adult who requires a horse of that caliber. That generally means that I need an easy horse. Well seasoned, well patterned, easy to haul, warm up and run. The rider at this stage should be able to focus on staying on, switching hands and having fun. The horse should take care of the rest. I expect to have to pay a premium for those sorts of horses. Given that they have no extreme maintenance requirements and aren't ugly, a horse of that age, with those attributes, I advise to prepare to spend approximately $10,000. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | 1DSoon - 2016-11-07 11:45 AM
if roan or palamino $75k
This is so you.........lol |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | 4D $5000 max |
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Location: Ft Worth TX | WrapSnap - 2016-11-08 10:09 AM
We're talking about a horse who is 2seconds off here, correct? Or are we discussing a 4D horse in a 5D format? Typically, if I'm looking for one that will be 2 seconds off at a big show, it is because I have a novice kid, or an adult who requires a horse of that caliber. That generally means that I need an easy horse. Well seasoned, well patterned, easy to haul, warm up and run. The rider at this stage should be able to focus on staying on, switching hands and having fun. The horse should take care of the rest. I expect to have to pay a premium for those sorts of horses. Given that they have no extreme maintenance requirements and aren't ugly, a horse of that age, with those attributes, I advise to prepare to spend approximately $10,000.
4d on a 5d format |
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Location: MD | Whoop Z Day Z - 2016-11-08 12:40 PM
WrapSnap - 2016-11-08 10:09 AM
We're talking about a horse who is 2seconds off here, correct? Or are we discussing a 4D horse in a 5D format? Typically, if I'm looking for one that will be 2 seconds off at a big show, it is because I have a novice kid, or an adult who requires a horse of that caliber. That generally means that I need an easy horse. Well seasoned, well patterned, easy to haul, warm up and run. The rider at this stage should be able to focus on staying on, switching hands and having fun. The horse should take care of the rest. I expect to have to pay a premium for those sorts of horses. Given that they have no extreme maintenance requirements and aren't ugly, a horse of that age, with those attributes, I advise to prepare to spend approximately $10,000.
4d on a 5d format
In that case... 12 to 15k |
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Location: Huffman, Texas | im a certified 4/5 d'er..LOL..i have paid from $3500-14K--granted the 14K my first ride on nim was in the 2d, and he was a beautiful yella!!!! (him in my avatar) but my best and most consistent ones i paid 5-6500K for and sold for that was well.
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Location: MD | 15 THOUSAND for a 4D horse 
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | CE's wrapn3 - 2016-11-09 8:01 AM
15 THOUSAND for a 4D horse
Again, that is for a horse that is sound, quiet, easy, honest simple and running 1.5 seconds off of $250,000 horses. There are definitely cheaper 4D horses available, just not as uncomplicated. |
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Location: Windoming | Whatever someone is willing to pay for him. Be it $25K or $10K |
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| I'm not paying over $5,000 for a 4D horse. Just my opinion. |
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| If I was trying to sell one I wouldn't be able to get $1500 for a super nice, super consistent one. |
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I just read the headlines
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| GrahamKayleigh - 2016-11-09 1:22 PM
I'm not paying over $5,000 for a 4D horse. Just my opinion.
Me, too. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | WrapSnap - 2016-11-08 11:09 AM
We're talking about a horse who is 2seconds off here, correct? Or are we discussing a 4D horse in a 5D format? Typically, if I'm looking for one that will be 2 seconds off at a big show, it is because I have a novice kid, or an adult who requires a horse of that caliber. That generally means that I need an easy horse. Well seasoned, well patterned, easy to haul, warm up and run. The rider at this stage should be able to focus on staying on, switching hands and having fun. The horse should take care of the rest. I expect to have to pay a premium for those sorts of horses. Given that they have no extreme maintenance requirements and aren't ugly, a horse of that age, with those attributes, I advise to prepare to spend approximately $10,000.
This. From what I know of the area you're in, should be in the 8k-10k price range.
e.t.a. Come four hours east and I'd say you're looking at 5k tops. :(
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2016-11-09 2:11 PM GrahamKayleigh - 2016-11-09 1:22 PM I'm not paying over $5,000 for a 4D horse. Just my opinion. Me, too.
LOL, I agree  in my area they are every where and they go from anywhere from 2500 to 4500, they are pretty nice horses too. |
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Location: IL | LOl I can't even sell a 1D local 2-3D big show for $8000 and I have stats to prove it! IL sucks for the horse market! No gate issues and sane. |
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Location: North MS | Heck I tried selling one- listed at $2500 firm. I was offered $1500 for a total babysitter. A horse that could do all playday events and take care of a child. Glad I didn't sell because now we are in the 3D again state "The American" competition who broke the arena records both nights of the show. I had another listed that wasn't solid running yet- but well broke and showed at one large show and won 4D. Bully Bullion grandson and palomino. $2500 and plenty of interest, but "he carried his head too high" in the video I sent. Well heck- After a 10 month vacation due to my pregnancy, yanked out of his pasture, hauled to a big show, stalled overnight (usually on pasture), wind blowing 20 miles an hour and 40 degrees outside just to get a video not in winter mud..... I think he was a saint considering that was his second ride back. Did everything I asked, picked up leads, loped pattern, but I guess they wanted a martingale bend or draw rein look.
People overlook or look down on "4D" horses without taking into account that some people are great 4D riders. Both the horses I tried to sell can go a lot faster, it will just take me longer to get them there than it would another rider. |
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Location: Oklahoma | rodeoveteran - 2016-11-09 1:33 PM
If I was trying to sell one I wouldn't be able to get $1500 for a super nice, super consistent one.
That's me. All of mine are like WrapSnap described....easy, uncomplicated, solid. They run 4D with me, but can clock 2D with a small aggressive rider. I'm lucky if I can get $10K out of them right now.....and they're all top barrel bloodlines and colored. I have one that I would love to sell to a youth that has consistently run 3D in a 5D format at HUGE shows. I have him priced at $15K (and I would take less to the right home) because he is no trouble, ANYONE can ride him, a full brother to a 3 time American qualifier and was featured in BHN for running at the top of the 3D in big shows. Super confidence builder and blue roan to boot, but no one wants to pay any money for him because he's not 1D. Which is fine, because I'll just keep him if I don't get what I want for him. He's my favorite of all of the ones I have. 
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | WrapSnap - 2016-11-08 11:09 AM
We're talking about a horse who is 2seconds off here, correct? Or are we discussing a 4D horse in a 5D format? Typically, if I'm looking for one that will be 2 seconds off at a big show, it is because I have a novice kid, or an adult who requires a horse of that caliber. That generally means that I need an easy horse. Well seasoned, well patterned, easy to haul, warm up and run. The rider at this stage should be able to focus on staying on, switching hands and having fun. The horse should take care of the rest. I expect to have to pay a premium for those sorts of horses. Given that they have no extreme maintenance requirements and aren't ugly, a horse of that age, with those attributes, I advise to prepare to spend approximately $10,000.
Andy nailed it. A LOT of people just starting out or novice kids will pay good money for a solid 4D horse, no issues, not a whole lot of maintainence, a good baby-sitter type, those are the BEST horses someone could ask for, they are worth their weight in gold. I sold two babysitters last year for over $5000, the gelding I sold had some issues or else he would have been at least $8500 with his pedigree, looks and talents (21-22 pole horse) can rope, trail ride etc. he went to a Jr. Rodeo home.
A girl I train with here just offered me $6500 for a 3/4D mare I have now, but being that she's young I declined because she will get faster.
This is in Florida, maybe it's different other places but that's here. |
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price range on a 4d big show horse?