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Now he has his work cut out for him, but he has a GOP majority in the senate and house.
So much to say about this race, looking back, and I don't want to gloat, but I have to say that Hillary telling her supporters to go home and not giving a concession speech says a lot.
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| River - 2016-11-09 6:48 AM I for one, am going to miss these daily political threads!! Seriously. I am so glad Trump won!! This has been a rollercoaster ride but now I have hope. I loved watching the media squirm and in disbelief as Trump defied all the polls and statistics! It was awesome!
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        Location: Ky | I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
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          Location: Kentucky | jd&ez - 2016-11-09 8:25 AM I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not. How do you feel about Hillary not addressing her supports until 9:30 AM this morning?
ETA: I thought it was a hell of a race. It was interesting to watch. History being made on both sides. America is sick of politicians. The people spoke. There's a clear message when support is that strong.
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | jd&ez - 2016-11-09 8:25 AM
I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not.
And this folks is a classic example of spin doctoring.
you will see a plethora of examples of this over the next several days.
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I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not.
Well you have been wrong on how the country really thinks for months so why change now. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | It's so hard not to gloat. Where is IB1UKNO and Finney? We've already heard from jd&ez.
I think everyone with a sense of objectivity can plainly see America was on a collision course with hell. There are a lot of huge things that need fixing. I can't say for sure if Trump's solutions are the right solutions, but I can easily see the rationale for everything he proposes. He is going to need a lot of help from congress, including Democrats. I actually think Trump might be able to negotiate with the minority party better than anyone.
Trump knows full well that he suddenly finds himself with awesome responsibility on his shoulders this morning. This almost seems like divine intervention to me. ObamaCare can be sh!tcanned. The Supreme Court's gargantuan lurch to the left has been intercepted.
Finally we can slam the door on the insanity of illegal immigration, and so many more solutions.
It will be a relief to see the Obama executive actions thrown out the window.
All the celebrities and star power in the world couldn't outshine Trump. He was the main attraction at his rallies. Hillary had a star studded cast of actors, singers, and political heavyweights at her events, but you can't shine sh!t. No matter how many stars performed at her rallies, she was still the same ugly quacking duck in the clown car at the end of the parade......only attacking Trump, but little mention of her own plan. People noticed. They weren't fooled the way they were in 2008. |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | News Flash -------- Wal-Mart head quarters ordered 20 of their tractor trailer trucks loaded with complimentary stain remover and in route to Pennsylvania Ave. Washington DC to report to their nearest distribution center and unload their cargo. Seems it won't be needed at the White House after all. |
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         Location: MN | I'm excited that Trump won. Nice to see that a nonpolitical person can get into the White House.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Well….I woke up this morning to half of my FaceBook Friends doing the “happy dance” and the other half “crying in their beer” ……..One thing is for certain….it is now up to US to unite the country…..quit squabbling and quit p*ssing and moaning and move on to unite …. Hopefully Trump will do that…..we will just have to wait and see… |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | The Congress with President Trump need to serve the American people to make the country successful. Americans need to do their part to make America great. We as Americans need to work hard and be good Christians in following Gods commandments so we can be worthy of his blessing! |
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       Location: TEXAS | Bear - 2016-11-09 8:06 AM It's so hard not to gloat. Where is IB1UKNO and Finney? We've already heard from jd&ez. I think everyone with a sense of objectivity can plainly see America was on a collision course with hell. There are a lot of huge things that need fixing. I can't say for sure if Trump's solutions are the right solutions, but I can easily see the rationale for everything he proposes. He is going to need a lot of help from congress, including Democrats. I actually think Trump might be able to negotiate with the minority party better than anyone. Trump knows full well that he suddenly finds himself with awesome responsibility on his shoulders this morning. This almost seems like divine intervention to me. ObamaCare can be sh!tcanned. The Supreme Court's gargantuan lurch to the left has been intercepted. Finally we can slam the door on the insanity of illegal immigration, and so many more solutions. It will be a relief to see the Obama executive actions thrown out the window. All the celebrities and star power in the world couldn't outshine Trump. He was the main attraction at his rallies. Hillary had a star studded cast of actors, singers, and political heavyweights at her events, but you can't shine sh!t. No matter how many stars performed at her rallies, she was still the same ugly quacking duck in the clown car at the end of the parade......only attacking Trump, but little mention of her own plan. People noticed. They weren't fooled the way they were in 2008.
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     Location: East Texas | jd&ez - 2016-11-09 7:25 AM
I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not.
If everyone that voted for Hillary would do exactly what you have just said: "I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country", then we would actually have hope. We can be in unity without agreeing on every single thing! |
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     Location: hillsboro mo. | I stayed up all night watching the news coverage. I couldnt make myself turn off the TV. Im not going to lie... I cried a little bit at times. When he won Florida ...well now im about to cry some more! God Bless America and President Trump. America is going to be GREAT again! I hope people realize we are watching history being made right before our eyes.His victory speech was very professional, Hillarys lack of addressing her supporters was just SAD. |
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    Location: East Texas | Bear - 2016-11-09 2:20 AM
I've never seen anything quite like this before.
Now he has his work cut out for him, but he has a GOP majority in the senate and house.
So much to say about this race, looking back, and I don't want to gloat, but I have to say that Hillary telling her supporters to go home and not giving a concession speech says a lot.
I'm so dam glad this is over.
I think he has the will, but not sure the ability. It will be a huge uphill battle for the changes he wants. As for Hillary.... I have a friend that worked with her several years back and his comment was no matter how bad people disliked her, I promise you she disliked them more. |
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| jd&ez - 2016-11-09 7:25 AM I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | The people said screw the candidate with no morals, screw the media, screw the socialists, screw the pompous urban asses who want to impose their beliefs and desires on those of us who are the backbone of this country. Now I hope our elected representatives will uphold their part and reset us back onto the right course. |
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| countrygirl2006 - 2016-11-09 10:18 AM I have read several articles this morning, and it seems most of them were written by Democrats. But even in one of those articles, this statement really rang true to me. "What you saw today was not a mandate for every little utterance he made like building a wall or having a deportation force. I believe it was an expression of a desire for change."
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        Location: Ky | rodeomom3 - 2016-11-09 9:46 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-09 7:25 AM I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not. Then why has the Dems platform been one of change???
I have no idea what you are talking about nor how whatever it is fits into what I said. |
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        Location: Ky | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-09 10:34 AM The people said screw the candidate with no morals, screw the media, screw the socialists, screw the pompous urban asses who want to impose their beliefs and desires on those of us who are the backbone of this country. Now I hope our elected representatives will uphold their part and reset us back onto the right course.
It actually was none of that. Trump didn't get as many votes as Romney did. This was an election against, nor for.
But Trump is my prsident now and I hope he is successful. I will not sit around rooting against Trump as people did against Obama. I hope my taxes are less. I hope he does something about welfare. I hope he can unite what he has worked to divide. I hope he comes to realize that America is a great country.
I hope he doesn't continue the racial and social divide that he played to during the election.
I had a friend tell me yesterday that he was voting for Trump even though he hated everything about Trump. His reasoning, he felt there was no hope for change with Hillary. He doesn't think Trump will change anything either but there is a glimmer of hope that he will. I actually understand that reasoning. |
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To CBS: what happened was...this white educated female Floridian made a decision based upon the reality of what this country needs in order to change for the better - not some feminist propaganda follower with the "need" to see a woman president. And it's apparent I wasn't the only one lol!
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Speedy Buckeye Girl - 2016-11-09 12:13 PM To CBS: what happened was...this white educated female Floridian made a decision based upon the reality of what this country needs in order to change for the better - not some feminist propaganda follower with the "need" to see a woman president. And it's apparent I wasn't the only one lol!
So relieved of the results...fingers crossed we really will see the change this country so desperately needs.
Good for you.
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     Location: N Texas | The best part for me was watching all the national commentators try to make sense of it and their bewildered "holy cr@p, this is actually happening!" looks on their faces. It made it very entertaining for me.
One comment that stuck out to me was someone said they really overlooked the rural voters. Glad to see the rural voters made their voice heard!
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    Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | The great thing I took from this election was how rural Americans fought hard! We won this election for Trump. As you watched things unfold and the media would break a state down by counties, it was over & over rural areas fighting back! I live in Ohio, surrounded by farm land counties and good simple country people... he won BIG in these counties. Not even a close race in my county of Harrison. This happened all across America. The average, country loving, hard working, God fearing people of this country want our America back and are willing to work & fight for it!!!!
I also want to add, the one thing I personally like about Trump, I feel he surrounds himself with good people. He does not know everything, he is not perfect, he is not polished but I feel he knows how to choose the right people to advise him.
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    Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | Gunner11 - 2016-11-09 11:29 AM
The best part for me was watching all the national commentators try to make sense of it and their bewildered "holy cr@p, this is actually happening!" looks on their faces. It made it very entertaining for me.
One comment that stuck out to me was someone said they really overlooked the rural voters. Glad to see the rural voters made their voice heard!
We must of been posting at the same time. Could not agree more about the media and rural America. |
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All I am going to say is read the book. HILLARY'S AMERICA.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-09 10:34 AM The people said screw the candidate with no morals, screw the media, screw the socialists, screw the pompous urban asses who want to impose their beliefs and desires on those of us who are the backbone of this country. Now I hope our elected representatives will uphold their part and reset us back onto the right course.
Loved it when Ryan gave his speech. This is the most enthusiasm I have seen out of this man and his words that they will be taking care of our farmers and ranchers were music to my ears. I want to eat food grown by American Farmers and Beef raised by American Ranchers. Let the 3rd world countries feed other 3rd world countries.  |
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        Location: SE KS | jake16 - 2016-11-09 7:25 AM I watched on the fox business channel with Lou Dobbs.LOVE HIM!! THEY WERE HAVING A BLAST AND SO WAS I!!!
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | jd&ez - 2016-11-09 10:45 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-09 10:34 AM The people said screw the candidate with no morals, screw the media, screw the socialists, screw the pompous urban asses who want to impose their beliefs and desires on those of us who are the backbone of this country. Now I hope our elected representatives will uphold their part and reset us back onto the right course. It actually was none of that. Trump didn't get as many votes as Romney did. This was an election against, nor for.
But Trump is my prsident now and I hope he is successful. I will not sit around rooting against Trump as people did against Obama. I hope my taxes are less. I hope he does something about welfare. I hope he can unite what he has worked to divide. I hope he comes to realize that America is a great country.
I hope he doesn't continue the racial and social divide that he played to during the election.
I had a friend tell me yesterday that he was voting for Trump even though he hated everything about Trump. His reasoning, he felt there was no hope for change with Hillary. He doesn't think Trump will change anything either but there is a glimmer of hope that he will. I actually understand that reasoning.
From where I sit, Obama is the one who divided our country by bringing out old grudges and hatred and then, with media help, fanning the flames every chance he got. I don't think Trump's message was meant to be polarizing, but it was represented that way and brought out some of the crazies, which seemingly lended credence that the message was bigoted and divisive. After the last year or so, I am more convinced than ever that people hear what they want to hear no matter what was said. |
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | We were and continue to be against the social engineering that Obama and Hillary represent. Against the division, the kind of 'fundamental change' that Obama originally campaigned for...it's nearly ruined us. So...yes, we voted 'against' that and 'for' a successful man who will hopefully inspire us to be the greatest, once again. We have 2 years to get it together! To prove that Americans can be united in the desire to protect our freedoms and liberty...FOR each other...not against, such as the end result of socialism. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | To my way of thinking, the best way to prolong bigotry and prejudice is to promote someone, vote for someone, or idolize someone because of their sex organs, skin color, religious preference, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. Those who do this are actually only promoting deep divisions, whether it is their intention or not.
Sooner or later I hope people realize this. This isn't some eye-opening or new observation. Martin Luther-King famously talked about this over 50 years ago when he said he had a dream that one day people will be judged by the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin.
The Democrat party nonetheless continues to bank on being the party that promotes people on these meaningless criteria. It's all a worthless ruse.
We elected Barack Obama in 2008 for what reason? Purely based on racism. He had zero accomplishments up to the time of his election. His resume was as unimpressive as my resume' as a 1D barrel racer.
Joe Biden himself famously exclaimed that Obama was a super star because he didn't talk ghetto talk and was "clean cut". Indeed, we aren't the only gullible people on the planet. The guy won a Nobel Prize for what? Search me. Indeed, the fact that Trump called into question Obama's birth country was allowed to be labelled as "racist" by the Progressives and the MSM.
Since the Progressives were successful in using tools of bigotry in getting Obama elected, they decided to use that same approach in getting someone elected because she has a vagina. That is blatant grotesque sexism.....the opposite of what they claim to espouse.
No doubt about it, they will continue to use bigotry and guilt tactics. I'm sure they have a gay or TG person lined up. They will soon have a Hindu, Muslim, or Buddist lined up, I'm sure.
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Trump pulled off the unexpected, he ran the race his way, without GOP support, against all odds and he won! Here is my take, he has for years, decades, contributed to compaigns on both sides. He knows how the political system works on the backside. He has been racking up 'favors' for years, and those that wouldn't play ball, he squashed. Trump will be able to get things done. What Trump chooses to tackle first will be interesting and telling and how his presidency will go. 2017 is going to be an interesting year!! |
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| jd&ez - 2016-11-09 10:37 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-11-09 9:46 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-09 7:25 AM I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not. Then why has the Dems platform been one of change??? I have no idea what you are talking about nor how whatever it is fits into what I said.
If America is still great why did the dems have a platform of hope and change? Why the change?? I believe we were heading down a path of such political correctness we were doomed. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeomom3 - 2016-11-09 2:40 PM
jd&ez - 2016-11-09 10:37 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-11-09 9:46 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-09 7:25 AM I'm not surprised at this outcome. I am surprised that anyone would think he will do well as president.
I hope I am wrong and he is successful and does right by this country that is already great despite his saying it is not. Then why has the Dems platform been one of change??? I have no idea what you are talking about nor how whatever it is fits into what I said.
If America is still great why did the dems have a platform of hope and change? Why the change?? I believe we were heading down a path of such political correctness we were doomed.
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      Location: Prosser, WA | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-09 10:55 AM
jd&ez - 2016-11-09 10:45 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-09 10:34 AM The people said screw the candidate with no morals, screw the media, screw the socialists, screw the pompous urban asses who want to impose their beliefs and desires on those of us who are the backbone of this country. Now I hope our elected representatives will uphold their part and reset us back onto the right course. It actually was none of that. Trump didn't get as many votes as Romney did. This was an election against, nor for.
But Trump is my prsident now and I hope he is successful. I will not sit around rooting against Trump as people did against Obama. I hope my taxes are less. I hope he does something about welfare. I hope he can unite what he has worked to divide. I hope he comes to realize that America is a great country.
I hope he doesn't continue the racial and social divide that he played to during the election.
I had a friend tell me yesterday that he was voting for Trump even though he hated everything about Trump. His reasoning, he felt there was no hope for change with Hillary. He doesn't think Trump will change anything either but there is a glimmer of hope that he will. I actually understand that reasoning.
From where I sit, Obama is the one who divided our country by bringing out old grudges and hatred and then, with media help, fanning the flames every chance he got. I don't think Trump's message was meant to be polarizing, but it was represented that way and brought out some of the crazies, which seemingly lended credence that the message was bigoted and divisive. After the last year or so, I am more convinced than ever that people hear what they want to hear no matter what was said.
Yep. President Obama had the unique opportunity to bring this country together like no other President before him. Instead he tore us apart. Hopefully Trump can help to bring us together a bit more. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | TXBO - 2016-11-09 4:53 PM
Just an interesting tidbit. I was in Cabo, Mexico during the election. Had Fox News all weekend at the resort. It was blacked out yesterday. Lol
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| Bear - 2016-11-09 5:22 PM TXBO - 2016-11-09 4:53 PM Just an interesting tidbit. I was in Cabo, Mexico during the election. Had Fox News all weekend at the resort. It was blacked out yesterday. Lol Now that's hilarious! Real deal. Lol. It was awesome watching Wolf Blitzer melt down though. I was a little worried about getting back home today.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol!
Nawww, their just nut jobs that dont want to work and just live off the system, now they will have to work cause Trump is going to be bringing jobs in, now they will have to get off their lazy butts, lol.. I know there were protests early this morning, thou.. |
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Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol!
I'm not surprised. I'm sure CNN and MSNBC are going to make hay with the images of the protesters. They are just hooligans. |
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| Bear - 2016-11-09 8:48 PM TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol! I'm not surprised. I'm sure CNN and MSNBC are going to make hay with the images of the protesters. They are just hooligans.
Bear, I'm just enjoying this too much. I was so concerned for my children but the SCOTUS could be set for a generation if Trump keeps his promise. |
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Bear - 2016-11-09 8:48 PM TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol! I'm not surprised. I'm sure CNN and MSNBC are going to make hay with the images of the protesters. They are just hooligans.
Bear, I'm just enjoying this too much. I was so concerned for my children but the SCOTUS could be set for a generation if Trump keeps his promise.
That was the most important reason for electing Trump. We dodged a bullet, I think. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-09 8:43 PM
TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol!
Nawww, their just nut jobs that dont want to work and just live off the system, now they will have to work cause Trump is going to be bringing jobs in, now they will have to get off their lazy butts, lol.. I know there were protests early this morning, thou..
That is EXACTLY what I posted on Facebook this morning. They are scared to death that Trump is going to take away their government tit and they might have to get JOBS. Hubby's sister (who is an idiot), was WHINING about how her health depends on Obamacare and she can't lose it - she is 50, married to a wealthy WAY older man and she doesn't work - cry me a freaking RIVER. Get a ****ed JOB. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Griz - 2016-11-10 5:31 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-09 8:43 PM TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol! Nawww, their just nut jobs that dont want to work and just live off the system, now they will have to work cause Trump is going to be bringing jobs in, now they will have to get off their lazy butts, lol.. I know there were protests early this morning, thou.. That is EXACTLY what I posted on Facebook this morning. They are scared to death that Trump is going to take away their government tit and they might have to get JOBS. Hubby's sister (who is an idiot ), was WHINING about how her health depends on Obamacare and she can't lose it - she is 50, married to a wealthy WAY older man and she doesn't work - cry me a freaking RIVER. Get a ****ed JOB.
LOL, They all dont like Trump because hes not going to be a pushover. Hes going to fix our systems that are broke, no more apologizing to all the countries out there thats been taking us for granted Hes going to stand up for America and this scares the HE** out of the system's blood suckers and some of the dems.. |
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| The left swung WAY too far left, Hillary's agenda was going to keep the pendulum stuck there. I feel if she had a more conservative liberal approach things may have worked better for her. I'm die hard Trump, this is just my observation. These young kids that supported Hillary, (NOT defending their choice) but this is what they knew and have been trained in schools and college. Common core must be repealed and power given to the States. REAL history must be taught, and folks need to get started writing some great literature that is youth friendly about the Trump's Triumph and how Americans took back their country- we are the majoryt no matter what the media has portrayed the past 8 years.. To the person that commented "I want what your smoking" when I said Americans would step up and elect Trump - I was praying with the rest of those who elected him. God BLESSED the USA and I am glad to look at the American flag today the same way I did when I was a kid and cant wait to watch the news when Trump is on office "the HONEST news" with the rest of America. |
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| Frodo - 2016-11-10 8:13 AM
I had to listen to a room full of liberals at work yesterday until I couldn't stand it anymore and went on defense. They thought the e-mail problem only involved one lonely e-mail and pretty much shut up when I explained Hillary had acid-washed 30K e-mail while under subpoena........ that were supposed to have been handed over to Congress. The loudest of the bunch has never voted in her life. I also told them that if they're horrifed at the thought of Trump well that's exactly how horrifed conservatives were at the thought of Obama as president. How'd that work out.
I am not going to our union council meeting tonight for this exact reason. I have absolutely NO appetite to listen to them all whine about how the election turned out.
This will be my last term as a council rep, I guess I am/WAS in the dark, I had NO IDEA how LIBERAL the unions are. |
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     Location: Central Texas | lwagner - 2016-11-10 11:21 AM To the person that thinks Colleges and schools teach liberalism, think again! Im a College Professor and voted a straight Rep. ticket. And when my students asked me about who to vote for I said reasrch Bengazi and 33,000 email that were earsed and tell me who think should be President. I didnt tell them who to vote for, I just told them to do some rearch before they voted.
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | Frodo - 2016-11-10 8:13 AM I had to listen to a room full of liberals at work yesterday until I couldn't stand it anymore and went on defense. They thought the e-mail problem only involved one lonely e-mail and pretty much shut up when I explained Hillary had acid-washed 30K e-mail while under subpoena........ that were supposed to have been handed over to Congress. The loudest of the bunch has never voted in her life. I also told them that if they're horrifed at the thought of Trump well that's exactly how horrifed conservatives were at the thought of Obama as president. How'd that work out.
Its amazing how ill informed most of the Hillary supporters are. Listening to them talk you would think they get all their political information from late night talk shows, then they make fun of people who listen to Fox. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-09 8:43 PM TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol! Nawww, their just nut jobs that dont want to work and just live off the system, now they will have to work cause Trump is going to be bringing jobs in, now they will have to get off their lazy butts, lol.. I know there were protests early this morning, thou..
They aren't out there protesting for nothing. I would bet they are getting paid by Soros. That's his MO. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nevertooold - 2016-11-10 12:04 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-09 8:43 PM TXBO - 2016-11-09 8:34 PM Anybody watching the protests from the tolerant left. Lol! Nawww, their just nut jobs that dont want to work and just live off the system, now they will have to work cause Trump is going to be bringing jobs in, now they will have to get off their lazy butts, lol.. I know there were protests early this morning, thou.. They aren't out there protesting for nothing. I would bet they are getting paid by Soros. That's his MO.
Thats what my sister and I were talking about this morning, that this Soros was keeping the protesters stired up and getting a pay out for doing his dirty deeds. |
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      Location: mi | RidenFly - 2016-11-10 1:10 PM I keep trying to make peaceful post on my FB outlets only to be met with tons of ....well...let's just say its not working. Tolerance is only for their views. I thought Clintons and Obamas speeches were gracious and I thought it would help. Nope. I also liked how Hillary wire purple, the color you get when you blend blue and red. Since their supporters are so aggrivated, It would be nice if tthey could continue toshow unity with the ppresident-elect.
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lwagner - 2016-11-10 11:21 AM To the person that thinks Colleges and schools teach liberalism, think again! Im a College Professor and voted a straight Rep. ticket. And when my students asked me about who to vote for I said reasrch Bengazi and 33,000 email that were earsed and tell me who think should be President. I didnt tell them who to vote for, I just told them to do some rearch before they voted.
It's good to know that there are exceptions like you, out there!
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         Location: So. California | SloRide - 2016-11-10 5:49 AM I went over Trumps first 100 days plan. I sort of laughed when I read it. Showed it to my husband and we both said the same thing. There are a lot of progressive ideas in his plan. Lol I'm on board and am curious to see just how willing republicans will be to work on some of these things.
I just read the plan. Congress is not going to be happy!    
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It has been said on Facebook but I think it bears repeating. What happened in Florida...what happened in.....God showed up at the polls. The outpouring of prayers, Americans on their knees this is what happened. I believe this with all my heart. God fearing people have spoken we want our country back. It won't be easy I know but this is the step in the right direction. |
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I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing.
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| Reester - 2016-11-10 1:28 PM
Marfan - 2016-11-10 11:27 AM
lwagner - 2016-11-10 11:21 AM To the person that thinks Colleges and schools teach liberalism, think again! Im a College Professor and voted a straight Rep. ticket. And when my students asked me about who to vote for I said reasrch Bengazi and 33,000 email that were earsed and tell me who think should be President. I didnt tell them who to vote for, I just told them to do some rearch before they voted.
It's good to know that there are exceptions like you, out there!
YOU are fabulous and an exception. Thank you! I have another college professor friend who is the same way as you.
I may have something to that effect. But you gotta agree that most colleges and Universities are steeped in Liberalism. We happen to have one that is an big exception in Hillsdale College and they are able to stay that way because they receive no money from the Government. There will, of course, be exceptions and Conservative profs but few and far between and they are probably a lot better at keeping their views to themselves. We also have Hillsdale College, with a proud history of Conservatism, but they get NO money fro the Government so therefore can set their own curriculum. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | The MSM media needs to start reporting the news and facts instead of their idealogy. The American people have spoken and the stock market didn't crash...it did the opposite. They are already talking about how they can get the country back on the road to socialism. Seriously...they need to get their followers off of the streets that are rioting. I'll be so glad when this country is once again a nation of laws that are enforced.  |
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         Location: So. California | Bear - 2016-11-10 4:42 PM I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing. Ryan sure sounds fired up to forge ahead.
So you think Congress will happily pass a constitutional amendment for term limits? Mitch Mcconnell is already gathering a force against this point. Or what about the 5 year lobbying ban? The latter is seen as a right after being such a dedicated public servant. Now, I am all for fixing Obamacare (I do not believe it will be completely repealed). That hopefully will happen. A hiring freeze on Federal workers when the plan calls to deport millions of illegals? Not sure how that works... And, Drain the Swamp (love that term!) clean up corruption in DC... Wonder how all those congressmen will feel about not getting the under the table deals... Will he start calling them out on them publically? Hmm...
Obviously, there are other Key points he has noted, that I think Congress will happily pass. But the above.... I just don't see it happening.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Anniemae - 2016-11-11 1:56 PM
Bear - 2016-11-10 4:42 PM I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing. Ryan sure sounds fired up to forge ahead.
So you think Congress will happily pass a constitutional amendment for term limits? Mitch Mcconnell is already gathering a force against this point. Or what about the 5 year lobbying ban? The latter is seen as a right after being such a dedicated public servant. Now, I am all for fixing Obamacare (I do not believe it will be completely repealed). That hopefully will happen. A hiring freeze on Federal workers when the plan calls to deport millions of illegals? Not sure how that works... And, Drain the Swamp (love that term!) clean up corruption in DC... Wonder how all those congressmen will feel about not getting the under the table deals... Will he start calling them out on them publically? Hmm...
Obviously, there are other Key points he has noted, that I think Congress will happily pass. But the above.... I just don't see it happening.
Let's see what he actually gets accomplished in the first 100 days! 
Nobody with a lick of common sense thinks or expects Trump will get everything on his wish list accomplished. I would think you, of all people, would realize that, Anniemae.
Trump cannot get everything on his agenda done alone. If he manages to negotiate a movement toward a constitutional amendment on term limits, that would be amazing.
You need to update yourselves on Trump's plan to "deport millions of illegals"......I think he clarified the order of priorities there. He's not going to deploy massive forces to sweep the country looking for illegal aliens to deport, contrary to the liberal talking points prior to the election.
He's said he would keep 1-2 aspects of OmamaCare in the replacement plan.
Nobody thinks Trump alone can completely "drain the swamp", but he's beholding to absolutely zero special interests. I think he will make significant inroads in that endeavor. |
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         Location: So. California | Totally agree with you,and I have no illusions that everything will be accomplished, that just doesn't happen. My point is that although both houses are GOP contolled, Tump plays with a completely different set of toys. And I'm curious to see what he actually gets accomplished during the first 1/2 of 2017.
Here is his stance on health care: To view Mr. Trump's position, visit https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform - Repeal and replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).
- Work with Congress to create a patient-centered health care system that promotes choice, quality, and affordability.
- Work with states to establish high-risk pools to ensure access to coverage for individuals who have not maintained continuous coverage.
- Allow people to purchase insurance across state lines, in all 50 states, creating a dynamic market.
- Maximize flexibility for states via block grants so that local leaders can design innovative Medicaid programs that will better serve their low-income citizens.
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And Trumps plan: First 100 days in office:
What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC: FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress; SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health); THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated; FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service; FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government; SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections. On the same day, I will begin taking the following 7 actions to protect American workers: FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205 SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars' worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal. SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law: FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won't take them back FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting. Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration: Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate. End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free. American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral. School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable. Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications. Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families. End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first. Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars. Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics. On November 8th, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our economy, security to our communities, and honesty to our government. This is my pledge to you. And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government of, by and for the people.
This is directly from Trump, I did not got to the 'media' for my source. Sheesh!
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | What's your point, Anniemae?
Is there a surprise lurking in that C&P?
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         Location: So. California | Bear - 2016-11-11 2:33 PM What's your point, Anniemae? Is there a surprise lurking in that C&P?
No surprise as it's been out there for quite awhile. I just don't know how many actually read it. Again, the first 6 actions ... congressional support? Not likely. Some think that Trump (with the complete support of Congress) is going to hit the ground running. May or may not happen, depending upon which "promises" he puts into action, we will see. Remember, Trump does things HIS way and that does not necessarily, or usually, equate to the establishments GOP way. All I'm saying is that it could get interesting... for both sides of the aisle.
Oh, and I just read the update on the two areas of health care, (you alluded to) he is considering keeping. No repeal, but it will be revised with much needed updates! Unfortunatley, I don't have twitter, so that was read off a media site.  |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Anniemae - 2016-11-11 4:45 PM
Bear - 2016-11-11 2:33 PM What's your point, Anniemae? Is there a surprise lurking in that C&P?
No surprise as it's been out there for quite awhile. I just don't know how many actually read it. Again, the first 6 actions ... congressional support? Not likely. Some think that Trump (with the complete support of Congress) is going to hit the ground running. May or may not happen, depending upon which "promises" he puts into action, we will see. Remember, Trump does things HIS way and that does not necessarily, or usually, equate to the establishments GOP way. All I'm saying is that it could get interesting... for both sides of the aisle.
Oh, and I just read the update on the two areas of health care, (you alluded to) he is considering keeping. No repeal, but it will be revised with much needed updates! Unfortunatley, I don't have twitter, so that was read off a media site. 
I don't know what you are talking about regarding Obamacare, and I don't care whether they label it as a drastic "revision", or "repeal", the end result will be the demise of ObamaCare.
You may have your doubts about Trump hitting the ground running, but I disagree. Trump is no fool. I have no doubt he's going to have a very ambitious agenda for the first 6 months. He knows he probably won't get everything he wants, but I'm sure he will aim high with a bold agenda. |
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         Location: So. California | Bear, you are misunderstanding me. I like the majority of his 100 day plan I am just curious what he will implement first and to what degree. Anything that effects Congress (the first 6 measures on his list) has little chance of success so I have to laugh...
I believe that as much as the GOP 'talks' about repealing Obamacare, they won't as they will lose votes and it's a great talking/rallying point for the GOP base. Why change their Ace card? What I do believe is that Trump will open up the states for competition, maybe get rid of the tax penalties and clean up a few other areas, thus lowering the cost, but it will still be a Federally run program. For the simple fact, that once the Federal government implements a program such as this, we are stuck with it. So I'm under no delusion that Obamacare will be any different. I think major changes/revisions, will make it tolerable to more people. Just my opinion....
What I would like Trump to focus on (his first 6 months) is Tax reform, lowering corporate tax rates, lowering individual rates and simplifying the tax code for everyone. That alone would be a HUGE boost to the economy. Reform NAFTA and all other trade agreements, rip them up if we have to, it's not working for America!. Renegotiating the UN commitment, and substantially reducing our financial output. We cannot save the world, we need to take care of our own first. The list is endless, but that we be a great start and would help ALL Americans.
I'm not doubtful, I am curious and hopeful. We can continue this converstaion next July, and see what actually got done and what areas are making progress.
Trump will have to go off Twitter come January though, that is a MUST!! haha!! |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would say the majority of people are for term limits...I'm asking since I don't know..Is there anyway that and some other items in regards to Congress, could be brought up for a vote to the public? Having Congress vote on laws regarding Congress is ridiculous. McConnell said we already have term limits..It's called elections. We all know how that goes. McConnell is just another dinosaur that needs to go and let someone younger take his place. Congress wasn't set up to be a career but they sure voted to make it so and that is pure BS. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I agree with almost everything you say, Anniemae, except here's my take on ObamaCare. Basically, we will always have to be able to provide healthcare for the indigent, and I don't think there's any escaping it. Allowing kids to remain on their parent's healthcare plan until age 26 is not essential, in my opinion. Sure it's "nice", but not vital. Things like pre-existing conditions can be written into law, but I actually think that can be left up to the individual states.
Assuming no drastic changes in our tax code ( ie: flat/fair tax), making HSA contributions and catastrophic insurance costs tax deductible, combined with removal of barriers to competition across state lines will go a long ways toward lowering the cost of actual healthcare. Also, laws making costs of services transparent and readily available to "consumers" will make for real competition. I also see a great opportunity by increasing limits of contributions to HSA's. Any amounts in HSA's that exceed the annual deductible amount should be rolled over into a healthcare IRA, for lack of a better term. Those IRA's would actually eventually result in tax revenues to the fed......which could go a long ways toward Medicaid dollars that get block granted to the states. |
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       Location: South Central Florida | Anniemae - 2016-11-11 2:56 PM Bear - 2016-11-10 4:42 PM I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing. Ryan sure sounds fired up to forge ahead. So you think Congress will happily pass a constitutional amendment for term limits? Mitch Mcconnell is already gathering a force against this point.
Or what about the 5 year lobbying ban? The latter is seen as a right after being such a dedicated public servant.
Now, I am all for fixing Obamacare (I do not believe it will be completely repealed). That hopefully will happen.
A hiring freeze on Federal workers when the plan calls to deport millions of illegals? Not sure how that works...
And, Drain the Swamp (love that term!) clean up corruption in DC... Wonder how all those congressmen will feel about not getting the under the table deals... Will he start calling them out on them publically? Hmm...
Obviously, there are other Key points he has noted, that I think Congress will happily pass. But the above.... I just don't see it happening.
Let's see what he actually gets accomplished in the first 100 days! 
Constitutional Ammendmenst are not passed by Congress. They are voted on by the people, and ratified State by State. They have 10 years I believe to get all 50 States to ratify an Ammendment. It is a very difficult thing to do. However, I'm not sure that is how Term Limits would be addressed. I think it might be a similar process but it takes many years.
I think it would make the biggest difference in Government since 1776. No matter what side, the idea of a life time job in Government was never part of the plan. I kind of wonder if they had any idea anyone would WANT to serve that long.
I would push for Term Limits if I knew the way to address it. A lot of us do our part, but with "real" jobs and lives.....it's often hard to find time to Protest |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Swannranch - 2016-11-11 6:54 PM
Anniemae - 2016-11-11 2:56 PM Bear - 2016-11-10 4:42 PM I'm not so sure about that. They held their majority in both houses because of Trumps coat tails. Some of those Republicans, like Ayotte, who couldn't support Trump, ended up losing. Ryan sure sounds fired up to forge ahead. So you think Congress will happily pass a constitutional amendment for term limits? Mitch Mcconnell is already gathering a force against this point.
Or what about the 5 year lobbying ban? The latter is seen as a right after being such a dedicated public servant.
Now, I am all for fixing Obamacare (I do not believe it will be completely repealed). That hopefully will happen.
A hiring freeze on Federal workers when the plan calls to deport millions of illegals? Not sure how that works...
And, Drain the Swamp (love that term!) clean up corruption in DC... Wonder how all those congressmen will feel about not getting the under the table deals... Will he start calling them out on them publically? Hmm...
Obviously, there are other Key points he has noted, that I think Congress will happily pass. But the above.... I just don't see it happening.
Let's see what he actually gets accomplished in the first 100 days! 
Constitutional Ammendmenst are not passed by Congress. They are voted on by the people, and ratified State by State. They have 10 years I believe to get all 50 States to ratify an Ammendment. It is a very difficult thing to do. However, I'm not sure that is how Term Limits would be addressed. I think it might be a similar process but it takes many years.
I think it would make the biggest difference in Government since 1776. No matter what side, the idea of a life time job in Government was never part of the plan. I kind of wonder if they had any idea anyone would WANT to serve that long.
I would push for Term Limits if I knew the way to address it. A lot of us do our part, but with "real" jobs and lives.....it's often hard to find time to Protest
I don't believe a popular vote is ever used in the process of creating an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
First, you need a super majority in both houses....2/3rds.
Then it is sent to the states where their legislatures decide whether or not it should be ratified. 3/4ths of the states are needed in order to ratify a proposed amendment.
The alternative is an article V convention of the states. |
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