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       Location: TEXAS | On live t.v. fox news was out there on the streets in New York at the protest. He stopped some latino man and asked why they were protesting. The man looked down, grabbed his head, spewed something about not looking out for them, then looked into the camera and yelled, "Grab Trump by the p@ssy!"....and he turned and ran off. The reporter and Megan Kelly were in shock and speechless. They didn't know how to react. Wow, just wow!!    
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saw Trump's numbers rising and could not stop her ranting and dissing
Trump ... she spewed every thing she could as if would make a difference
in the outcome ... think she forgot people had already voted!!
She even went back into the room where the forecasters were and asked them
to give the close states to Hillary .... the guy laughed and said they wanted
to be right and not political ...
If you watched FOX ... the entire bunch was showing their true liberal side ..
Old Megyn aged 20 years in one hour and is a woman full of rage still
looking for revenge against Trump .... her ratings have fallen due to
Trump not being on her program and she was just refused renewal of
her contract for 20 million per year .... they told her there were younger
talent that would give their right arm for her job .... lol
I see conniving on Fox to mess with Trump some more ...
they have a 15 second filtering process on street interviews
and they allowed this to go on air ...
Yesterday morning she was still ranting and in a total Hillary washout
along with the other bimbo Ripa who had a breakdown when her
co-host lover got promoted to another show ...
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Sounds like he was paid by Megyn Kelly ... she was totally insane as she
saw Trump's numbers rising and could not stop her ranting and dissing
Trump ... she spewed every thing she could as if would make a difference
in the outcome ... think she forgot people had already voted!!
She even went back into the room where the forecasters were and asked them
to give the close states to Hillary .... the guy laughed and said they wanted
to be right and not political ...
If you watched FOX ... the entire bunch was showing their true liberal side ..
Old Megyn aged 20 years in one hour and is a woman full of rage still
looking for revenge against Trump .... her ratings have fallen due to
Trump not being on her program and she was just refused renewal of
her contract for 20 million per year .... they told her there were younger
talent that would give their right arm for her job .... lol
I see conniving on Fox to mess with Trump some more ...
they have a 15 second filtering process on street interviews
and they allowed this to go on air ...
Yesterday morning she was still ranting and in a total Hillary washout
along with the other bimbo Ripa who had a breakdown when her
co-host lover got promoted to another show ...
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I'm not a Megyn Kelly fan but to think she would pay someone to say that is beyond absurd.  |
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        Location: Kansas | The way I interpreted the protesters were mostly young uninformed unproductive people who had no clue what they were doing there and basically by losing Bernie and Hillary saw their freebies swirling down the drain. They were beyond disgusting. I was a Megyn Kelly fan until the night at the debate when she attacked Trump about the way he treated women. It was uncalled for and unfair. There was a better time and place than a formal debate. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I smell George Soros and his henchmen, community organizers behind these hooligans. They want to give the viewing public the illusion that there's widespread chaos and anarchy in the streets.
Some of them don't even know what it is they're protesting.
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           Location: Kansas | Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning |
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        Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | so my former classmate who is a married lesbian and have two adopted children posted yesterday..... my children are terrified can anyone thoughtfully explain to me how you could justify voteing for trump.
my mouth fell open.... has she really instilled in her kids brains that trump is comming after those kids? to steal them out of their homes and familys?
my vote had nothing to do with ending LGBT libertys..... it had everything to do with corrupt politics and to stop the bleeding of our ecomony and with entitlements.
A second classmate posted today her child came home from school and said that she didnt ever not want to be a kid. because if she wasnt a kid then trump wouldnt do those things to her that she was told about in school.... maybe im wrong but i had to link her to the video of the senators swearing in by CNN..... there is no man who is more of a threat to children than Joe Biden. if you dont believe me pull it up on youtube.... 32 minutes of disgust all swept under the table. GRRRRR
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        Location: Kansas | luluwhit - 2016-11-10 12:38 PM so my former classmate who is a married lesbian and have two adopted children posted yesterday..... my children are terrified can anyone thoughtfully explain to me how you could justify voteing for trump.
my mouth fell open.... has she really instilled in her kids brains that trump is comming after those kids? to steal them out of their homes and familys?
my vote had nothing to do with ending LGBT libertys..... it had everything to do with corrupt politics and to stop the bleeding of our ecomony and with entitlements.
A second classmate posted today her child came home from school and said that she didnt ever not want to be a kid. because if she wasnt a kid then trump wouldnt do those things to her that she was told about in school....
maybe im wrong but i had to link her to the video of the senators swearing in by CNN..... there is no man who is more of a threat to children than Joe Biden. if you dont believe me pull it up on youtube.... 32 minutes of disgust all swept under the table. GRRRRR
I watched those and it wasn't just children it was young wives. His favorite thing was smelling their hair. Scott Brown wouldn't put up with it. He told Joe to move away from his wife.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2016-11-10 1:05 PM luluwhit - 2016-11-10 12:38 PM so my former classmate who is a married lesbian and have two adopted children posted yesterday..... my children are terrified can anyone thoughtfully explain to me how you could justify voteing for trump.
my mouth fell open.... has she really instilled in her kids brains that trump is comming after those kids? to steal them out of their homes and familys?
my vote had nothing to do with ending LGBT libertys..... it had everything to do with corrupt politics and to stop the bleeding of our ecomony and with entitlements.
A second classmate posted today her child came home from school and said that she didnt ever not want to be a kid. because if she wasnt a kid then trump wouldnt do those things to her that she was told about in school....
maybe im wrong but i had to link her to the video of the senators swearing in by CNN..... there is no man who is more of a threat to children than Joe Biden. if you dont believe me pull it up on youtube.... 32 minutes of disgust all swept under the table. GRRRRR
I watched those and it wasn't just children it was young wives. His favorite thing was smelling their hair. Scott Brown wouldn't put up with it. He told Joe to move away from his wife.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Here's a few more facts concerning the Democrat party's rich racist past and how it evolved into modern day Democrat racism:
It was Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Democrat, who founded the Ku Klux Klan.
Woodrow Wilson segregated Federal Buildings and jobs after 50 years of integration under largely Republican administrations.
It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted Jim Crow Laws.
It was the Democrat Party in the South that instituted "separate but equal".
It was the Democrat Party in the South that supported the Ku Klux Klan.
It was George Wallace and the Democrat Party in the South that said "Segregation Forever".
It was Orval Faubus and the Democrat Party that wanted the Arkansas National Guard to enforce segregation, and Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican President, that sent the 101st Airborne to integrate the schools.
It was Bull Connor, a member of the Democrat National Committee, who turned the hoses on the marchers in Birmingham, and it was the Republicans who made up the majority that passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, over the filibuster of such Democrat paragons as William Fulbright and Al Gore Sr. - and Grand Kleagle Byrd.
(And no, the Dixiecrats didn't join the Republican Party - most of them remained Democrats.)
It was the Democrats who kept Grand Kleagle Byrd in the party.
It was Democrats who called General Colin Powell a "house nigger".
It was Democrats who called Condi Rice - who grew up with and knew the little girls in Birmingham who were blown up, by Democrats - an "Aunt Jemima" and ran cartoons of her with fat lips doing Hattie McDaniel riffs.
It was Democrats, or at least Obama supporters, who called Stacy Dash a hundred different racist names for daring to leave the Democrat plantaion. (sic) It's the Democrats who hold annual dinners honoring Andrew Jackson, who owned slaves and who orchestrated the Removal, the Trail of Tears, the near genocide of several of the Indian Nations.
Add your own examples; there are many. To get you started: the Democratic racism of low expectations known as affirmative action along with its diversity and pluralism relatives encompassing only certain so called minorities, contempt for those clinging to their guns and/or religion, suburban dwellers, NASCAR., etc.... |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2016-11-10 8:31 PM soros they said they saw the buses and people come out of them..
He Soros bused in 7 buses load with his protesters into Austin I think it was today.. Crazy freaking nut cases... |
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      Location: Arkansas | hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning
There was an incident in a nearby town Wednesday with some black kids protesting Trump's win. Well, a few of the white boys took umbrage and basically said if you can protest his win, we can protest your protest----and hung up a Confederate flag or two. One of the black boys posted on the internet in some form that if the white crackers showed up at school he was going to kill their a$$es". (In so many words) Needless to say today was a wild day at the school---children searched for weapons, police involved, parents rushing to the school not really knowing what was going on but just hearing that they better go get their kids. . . .
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    Location: Dubach, LA | Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-10 9:38 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning
There was an incident in a nearby town Wednesday with some black kids protesting Trump's win. Well, a few of the white boys took umbrage and basically said if you can protest his win, we can protest your protest----and hung up a Confederate flag or two. One of the black boys posted on the internet in some form that if the white crackers showed up at school he was going to kill their a$$es". (In so many words ) Needless to say today was a wild day at the school---children searched for weapons, police involved, parents rushing to the school not really knowing what was going on but just hearing that they better go get their kids. . . .
Pray God's hand on our country during these trying times.
Goodness. How embarrassing for that to happen around here. I thought we were raised better. |
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      Location: Arkansas | CanCan - 2016-11-10 9:56 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-10 9:38 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning
There was an incident in a nearby town Wednesday with some black kids protesting Trump's win. Well, a few of the white boys took umbrage and basically said if you can protest his win, we can protest your protest----and hung up a Confederate flag or two. One of the black boys posted on the internet in some form that if the white crackers showed up at school he was going to kill their a$$es". (In so many words ) Needless to say today was a wild day at the school---children searched for weapons, police involved, parents rushing to the school not really knowing what was going on but just hearing that they better go get their kids. . . .
Pray God's hand on our country during these trying times.
Goodness. How embarrassing for that to happen around here. I thought we were raised better.
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning
As a mother to hs junior and a college senior, in which I PAY for, I'd be dragging their arses right back. Oh wait, my kids don't throw tantrums bc they have been taught basic social skills. Over all the whining! |
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     Location: OH. IO | hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 1:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning
So now we have high school athletes disrespecting our flag at their games thanks to the NFL player......and teenage kids leaving school to protest....WAYVTOBGO PARENTS AND MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT.YES IT IS ALL THEIR FAULTS.THE MEDIA IS DISCUSTING. Can't wait til Soros gets what is coming to him.He should be jailed everyday for inducing panic at the VERY minimum.So glad that corrupt side is OUT OF THERE. |
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I would protest the protesters.. but sadly I have a job and adult responsibilities, lol.
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        Location: Kansas | ~smc~ - 2016-11-11 7:09 AM This morning on the news, they showed a man protesting..and he actually said he was protesting because he is undocumented and worries what will happen to him now that Trump is President. Seriously... I would protest the protesters.. but sadly I have a job and adult responsibilities, lol. 
.........and that's where the same buses that bring these illegals in should be waiting on location to take them back.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp.
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     Location: California | I saw tidbits of the protests on FB. I couldn't watch-it made me SICK! Like what is WRONG with people these days? Are we all just too priviledged? I bet you majority of all those people complaining didn't even vote! I'm so sick of hearing people complain & yet do NOTHING about it!
On a lighter note... I live in CA in mini-Mexico & most of the people are happy Trump won. The ones who aren't happy are moochers, need obamacare or illegal.  |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Some one was saying if it would have been any other like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio that won the election there would be no protesting, Oh really, my thought is these NUT JOBS are always looking for a reason to protest and riot even if it were one of the other republican that won this crap would still be going on THEY wanted ole Hillary they wanted a dem to stay in the WhiteHouse, they didnt want any changes for America, they wanted to see America on the same track as what Obzo has us on now, Trump is going to change all this and they the dems dont want change. Its not Trump these crazys hate its the Republicans that want a better America.. Edit for spelling..
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-11 12:05 AM CanCan - 2016-11-10 9:56 PM Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-10 9:38 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning There was an incident in a nearby town Wednesday with some black kids protesting Trump's win. Well, a few of the white boys took umbrage and basically said if you can protest his win, we can protest your protest----and hung up a Confederate flag or two. One of the black boys posted on the internet in some form that if the white crackers showed up at school he was going to kill their a$$es". (In so many words ) Needless to say today was a wild day at the school---children searched for weapons, police involved, parents rushing to the school not really knowing what was going on but just hearing that they better go get their kids. . . . Pray God's hand on our country during these trying times. Goodness. How embarrassing for that to happen around here. I thought we were raised better. They did find some knives and also a 9 mm on a young man. How very scary
I've been busy the last 2 days and missed this. Where did it happen? |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I think more Hispanics actually voted for Trump than was expected, or even reported.
I also think he did quite a bit better with women than was generally anticipated.
He actually did better than Romney among both women and Hispanics.
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   Location: Over by those oil wells, TX | You are right about that Bear. We go to Mexico at least once a year every year and even the LOCALS are upset about the border situation when they visit with us about it. Some come here legally to work temporarily and they said it makes it very hard on them because of the reputation of all the illegals. They are disgusted because Mexico is also being bombarded with terrorist types that think they can first come to Mexico and then easily get to the U.S.A.
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        Location: Ky | Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home.
I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM
Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home.
I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work.
Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes.
Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly.
Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious.
Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S.
ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition
Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly.
Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS.
Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge.
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        Location: Ky | Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | ccarpe18 - 2016-11-11 9:09 AM I saw tidbits of the protests on FB. I couldn't watch-it made me SICK! Like what is WRONG with people these days? Are we all just too priviledged? I bet you majority of all those people complaining didn't even vote! I'm so sick of hearing people complain & yet do NOTHING about it!
On a lighter note... I live in CA in mini-Mexico & most of the people are happy Trump won. The ones who aren't happy are moochers, need obamacare or illegal. 
Exactly! People that came into this country through the front door and did it the right way are welcomed. It's the illegals coming through the back door that need a bus ride home. We are a nation of laws and why would anyone welcome a law breaker? |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it!
We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 11:34 AM ccarpe18 - 2016-11-11 9:09 AM I saw tidbits of the protests on FB. I couldn't watch-it made me SICK! Like what is WRONG with people these days? Are we all just too priviledged? I bet you majority of all those people complaining didn't even vote! I'm so sick of hearing people complain & yet do NOTHING about it!
On a lighter note... I live in CA in mini-Mexico & most of the people are happy Trump won. The ones who aren't happy are moochers, need obamacare or illegal.  Exactly! People that came into this country through the front door and did it the right way are welcomed. It's the illegals coming through the back door that need a bus ride home. We are a nation of laws and why would anyone welcome a law breaker?
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Trump isn't going to be able to just end ObamaCare abruptly through executive fiat. I think he can easily assemble a bipartisan committee to come up with a law that paves the way to a much better alternative to ObamaCare. I bet anything he can come up with a few Democrats who would be eager to be on that committee. It has to be a priority, but repealing ObamaCare and replacing it with something much better is going to take time. |
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Trump isn't going to be able to just end ObamaCare abruptly through executive fiat. I think he can easily assemble a bipartisan committee to come up with a law that paves the way to a much better alternative to ObamaCare. I bet anything he can come up with a few Democrats who would be eager to be on that committee. It has to be a priority, but repealing ObamaCare and replacing it with something much better is going to take time.
I agree. I do think he can lift the mandate to purchase or be fined pretty easily and that will ease a lot of "pressure"
I have insurance and it's been pretty darn good, only problem is it's not ACA approved so I could face a fine. The tax code for the ACA act was only through the 2016 year and their were some loopholes that prevented me from being fined. I haven't studied the new tax code yet. |
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        Location: Ky | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 11:36 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start.
It took Obama years to make changes. Now we have a president that know nothing about making policy or building consensus.
And if you are concerned about the law, then why vote for a crook like Trump?
The guy knows how to create bankruptcies. Is that the kind of change you are talking about?
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2016-11-11 4:14 PM
Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 11:36 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start.
It took Obama years to make changes. Now we have a president that know nothing about making policy or building consensus.
And if you are concerned about the law, then why vote for a crook like Trump?
The guy knows how to create bankruptcies. Is that the kind of change you are talking about?
I'm disappointed jd&ez. For a while there today you almost seemed sensible. This guy has created what? 500 businesses? 4 of his businesses went bankrupt. Google all of his properties and look at the net worth of each, after debt. A lot of very successful people have experienced this. His company was on the ropes in the early 90's and he climbed out of it and emerged stronger than ever. Take a look at all the big failed Casinos over the last 20 years, both in AC and Vegas.
There are plenty of mega flops.
Obama didn't build any consensus to speak of. He strong armed fellow Democrats like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu into voting for the law, but that hardly constitutes consensus building. Most of what he did was via executive fiat. That's not consensus building. |
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| The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon.
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      Location: Arkansas | jake16 - 2016-11-11 7:01 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 1:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning
So now we have high school athletes disrespecting our flag at their games thanks to the NFL player......and teenage kids leaving school to protest....WAYVTOBGO PARENTS AND MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT.YES IT IS ALL THEIR FAULTS.THE MEDIA IS DISCUSTING. Can't wait til Soros gets what is coming to him.He should be jailed everyday for inducing panic at the VERY minimum.So glad that corrupt side is OUT OF THERE.
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      Location: Arkansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-11 9:15 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-11 12:05 AM CanCan - 2016-11-10 9:56 PM Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-10 9:38 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning There was an incident in a nearby town Wednesday with some black kids protesting Trump's win. Well, a few of the white boys took umbrage and basically said if you can protest his win, we can protest your protest----and hung up a Confederate flag or two. One of the black boys posted on the internet in some form that if the white crackers showed up at school he was going to kill their a$$es". (In so many words ) Needless to say today was a wild day at the school---children searched for weapons, police involved, parents rushing to the school not really knowing what was going on but just hearing that they better go get their kids. . . . Pray God's hand on our country during these trying times. Goodness. How embarrassing for that to happen around here. I thought we were raised better. They did find some knives and also a 9 mm on a young man. How very scary
I've been busy the last 2 days and missed this. Where did it happen?
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Haven't heard anything since the day of so died down pretty quickly I guess. They did say the individual that threatened to kill them didn't show up for school that day. Aren't the consequences from that type of threat pretty serious? |
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         Location: So. California | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin.
I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here. |
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| I watched something last night that really irrtated me. There was a teacher from California, she said her students were so upset and afraid of Trump. These were young kids. All girls, about 10 years old. One of Hillary's ads about Trump showed kids watching and listening to some of the, not so nice things he had said. Now I could see where that could be disturbing to some. I didnt' think it was something that should have been on tv. Then again, I was sick of Hillary's ads! Another teacher from Ohio, said her students didn't have a problem. They have adjusted well. Why would that? I guess one of the "peaceful" protests turned riot in Portland. No one has any respect for the law anymore.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Turner1 - 2016-11-12 7:02 AM
I watched something last night that really irrtated me. There was a teacher from California, she said her students were so upset and afraid of Trump. These were young kids. All girls, about 10 years old. One of Hillary's ads about Trump showed kids watching and listening to some of the, not so nice things he had said. Now I could see where that could be disturbing to some. I didnt' think it was something that should have been on tv. Then again, I was sick of Hillary's ads! Another teacher from Ohio, said her students didn't have a problem. They have adjusted well. Why would that? I guess one of the "peaceful" protests turned riot in Portland. No one has any respect for the law anymore.
I actually figured that would be an effective ad......but then I thought about it and changed my mind. Most kids probably grow up hearing some pretty horrible things from parents, siblings, TV, friends, the Internet, etc.... That ad was predicated on this narrative that kids are fragile and need their safe space, etc..... This generation we are seeing rioting in the streets are the same kids who were brought up on the idea that even losers get a trophy. |
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      Location: Wyoming | Bear - 2016-11-11 9:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge.
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      Location: Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 9:36 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Anniemae - 2016-11-12 1:40 AM Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin. I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here. The Austin protestors were bussed in.
There was a peaceful protest last night in San Antonio. The so called head of the BLM in San Antonio got that one together and they started off by surrounding the Alamo and then moved on through downtown. They ended up with about 200 people and most were very young.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | My question is are the majority of millenials in other countries big cry babies like the ones in the US? Could you imagine them having to defend this country? LOL
Thank God there are still some real parents out there that raised great kids right but it seems to be in the minority. What a stark difference between rural kids and city kids in general. The plan of the progressives is to move everyone into the cities so we can be controlled. |
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| Bear - 2016-11-10 12:25 PM
I smell George Soros and his henchmen, community organizers behind these hooligans. They want to give the viewing public the illusion that there's widespread chaos and anarchy in the streets.
Some of them don't even know what it is they're protesting.
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    Location: Colorado | Nevertooold - 2016-11-12 10:42 AM Anniemae - 2016-11-12 1:40 AM Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin. I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here.
The Austin protestors were bussed in.
There was a peaceful protest last night in San Antonio. The so called head of the BLM in San Antonio got that one together and they started off by surrounding the Alamo and then moved on through downtown. They ended up with about 200 people and most were very young.
Sorry but the Buses were confirmed to being used at the electronics convention in Austin. This rumor was started by some idiot on Twitter.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-12 10:35 PM
Nevertooold - 2016-11-12 10:42 AM Anniemae - 2016-11-12 1:40 AM Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin. I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here.
The Austin protestors were bussed in.
There was a peaceful protest last night in San Antonio. The so called head of the BLM in San Antonio got that one together and they started off by surrounding the Alamo and then moved on through downtown. They ended up with about 200 people and most were very young.
Sorry but the Buses were confirmed to being used at the electronics convention in Austin. This rumor was started by some idiot on Twitter.
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Nevertheless, the peaceful demonstrations have been an excellent demonstration of class. I'm sure they have not been organized by powerful people, adroit on capitalizing on the vast ignorance so pervasive amongst the young gallant progressive lemmings. Lord knows we have no evidence of any sinister forces acting in such a way as to be deliberately disruptive over the past year. Nah! |
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| Thank goodness I didn't raise snowflakes! As a former educator THIS coddling is the main reason I left education. As a mother trying to raise responsible, accountable children it was too exhausting try to battle the system being put into place.
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    Location: Colorado | Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
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| Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
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You are right it would have been equally frustrating just as it was when Obama won. The difference is the protests back then were peaceable. I remember the media being dumbfounded because they left the protest area cleaner than when they arrived. I think the difference was in the age of the protesters. They didn't come from the participation trophy generation. |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | TXBO - 2016-11-09 10:31 PM
Lol. Today's klan is a toothless joke. Where's the link to their looting and rioting?
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I posted a lie and couldn't find at the time that it was a lie. I'm not blind and I've watched many of the other protests and I find them down right scary on one hand and ridiculous on the other.
I would like to hear about all these awful changes are going to be? Law and order? Fixing ObamaCare? Fixing our borders? Fixing our debt? Helping our veterans? Fixing the tax laws? Fixing the immigration problem?
The ones that should be worrying about fixing something is the Democratic party. They now want to put in a Muslim Socialist to be the leader of the DNC. They now think they need to lean even farther left. Now that is scary and terrifying at the same time. |
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        Location: CTX | Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest.
Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen.
Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades.
Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
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Actually, I haven't seen the total results yet. There were a couple of states too close to call.... so I'd be interested to see the final count. Not trying to start anything, just genuinely interested. |
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        Location: Kansas | Karen, please don't defend people who come here illegally. When you come to the U.S. illegally you are plain and simple an invader. Take the time to do it right. I was at Kohl's today at the checkout and a Hispanic couple was trying to open an account so they could get the rather large discount that came with it. Neither could produce a driver's license so quickly grabbed a wallet and paid cash. So if they're involved in an automobile accident it's a given they will not have insurance and they will receive free medical if needed. Not the same for whoever they hit.
Did you know the White House is negotiating to bring two thousand refugees from Australia. They absolutely don't want them so are trying to send them here. My question is always if they don't want them why do we. Very likely they are criminals. By all means dump them into our population.
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| Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
Actually there is no such thing as a spilt vote. While it might be interesting to keep tract of it means nothing on a national level. The popular vote ONLY counts in your individual state. Electors decide who is President. The protesters seem to have not read the Constitution or more likely don't care. There in lies the problem. |
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Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
Actually there is no such thing as a spilt vote. While it might be interesting to keep tract of it means nothing on a national level. The popular vote ONLY counts in your individual state. Electors decide who is President. The protesters seem to have not read the Constitution or more likely don't care. There in lies the problem.
There is a difference between having a difference of opinion and completely becoming unable to function bc you don't like aan outcome. I get they're upset but the fact they're rendered helpless and need pizza, hot chocolate, can't take tests, shut down colleges basically is RIDICULOUS. How the hell do they deal with a death, a break up or a REAL tragedy? That's the scary part to me their inability to freaking cope. This is our FUTURE?
Protest? These aren't protests! They're outright riots. They aren't helping their cause and their DESTROYING businesses of probably their fellow like minded party. And what's Obama saying, NOTHING!!! His smug ass is enjoying bc he doesn't give 2 effs about the American people who didn't vote for the continuation of HIS legacy!
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
Karen, I have news for you. We are a nation of laws. We have laws or we don't have a nation. They are supposed to everyone, including the Clinton Cartel, and non-citizens who come here illegally to take advantage of our country and expect rights and privileges that are supposed to be reserved for our citizens. It's just that simple.
I don't know why you brought up this "split vote" nonsense, but it's lame. Once again I'll remind you we are a nation of laws, and our law dictates that the electoral college is how we decide presidential elections in the USA. Trump will receive more electoral votes than JFK won in 1960 (306-303). It doesn't matter what the popular vote count ends up once all the absentee ballots have been counted. B!tching about any difference in the popular vote only serves to agitate the minions who are rioting and protesting.
Yes, if the shoe were on the other foot, I would be frustrated, but I'm not so stupid as to take to the streets and demonstrate if my candidate lost the election even while winning the popular vote.
Your party is an absolute mess. Obama's legacy won't be ObamaCare....it will be that he presided over the Democrat's ass kicking in two midterms and now this election. |
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| Bear - 2016-11-13 8:09 PM
Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
Karen, I have news for you. We are a nation of laws. We have laws or we don't have a nation. They are supposed to everyone, including the Clinton Cartel, and non-citizens who come here illegally to take advantage of our country and expect rights and privileges that are supposed to be reserved for our citizens. It's just that simple.
I don't know why you brought up this "split vote" nonsense, but it's lame. Once again I'll remind you we are a nation of laws, and our law dictates that the electoral college is how we decide presidential elections in the USA. Trump will receive more electoral votes than JFK won in 1960 (306-303 ). It doesn't matter what the popular vote count ends up once all the absentee ballots have been counted. B!tching about any difference in the popular vote only serves to agitate the minions who are rioting and protesting.
Yes, if the shoe were on the other foot, I would be frustrated, but I'm not so stupid as to take to the streets and demonstrate if my candidate lost the election even while winning the popular vote.
Your party is an absolute mess. Obama's legacy won't be ObamaCare....it will be that he presided over the Democrat's ass kicking in two midterms and now this election.
List of lies
You like your plan you can keep your plan.
You like your doctor you can keep your Dr
Shovel ready jobs
I lived through Obama, you'll live through Trump.
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        Location: Kansas | Off the subject a little but I just saw where Trump is refusing his Presidential salary of $400,000 per year. He's taking $1 of it. Let's hear Dems complain about that......I'm sure they're on it.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | If you want to see mug shots of some of the ugliest people you could ever imagine, this article has 67, out of the 71 hooligans who were arrested Saturday night in Portland. There were no murders and only a couple shootings, but there were a few assaults and numerous acts of vandalism.
These are some bizarre looking people:
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2016-11-14 8:28 AM If you want to see mug shots of some of the ugliest people you could ever imagine, this article has 67, out of the 71 hooligans who were arrested Saturday night in Portland. There were no murders and only a couple shootings, but there were a few assaults and numerous acts of vandalism. These are some bizarre looking people: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3932876/PICTURED-71-protest... How proud these young people must be feeling having their mug shots with all the crazies and homeless and thugs, they be proud and their parents must be so proud having to go bail out their cry babys and spoiled children. Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-11-14 10:20 AM
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| Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
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I seriously doubt you would have seen riots across America. |
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| jd&ez - 2016-11-11 4:14 PM It took Obama years to make changes. Now we have a president that know nothing about making policy or building consensus.
Obama will go down in history as the President that spent eight years in the White House and never passed a budget.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TXBO - 2016-11-14 10:51 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 4:14 PM It took Obama years to make changes. Now we have a president that know nothing about making policy or building consensus.
Obama will go down in history as the President that spent eight years in the White House and never passed a budget.
Talk about your great consensus builders!
Yep Obamo made changes all right, he divided us big time and gave his ok to kill police men and for all thugs to be ok with breaking laws that suits them. He didnt make America better, he hurt America and made America a joke.. |
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             Location: North Texas | Well, this link is real:
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| TXBO - 2016-11-14 10:46 AM
Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
I seriously doubt you would have seen riots across America.
Agreed.
I just don't understand what about the word ILLEGAL that the left does not understand. Were I a legal immigrant , having done my waiting time, spent my money, studied for the test, I would be beyond piffed that folks think that they can just walk across the border and get the same rights that I EARNED. I also think that folks who go through the process become more invested in this country and are more willing to assimilate in to our culture. I am not saying that they abandon their own, but they left their country of birth for a reason and came HERE for a reason so learn the language and don't try to force your old culture on to us.
While I am concerned about the Mexican border (and many of those folks are just traveling through Mexico from South America, so we are not talking just about Mexicans) and the effect they have on our health care systems and government handouts, I am way MORE concerned about the flood of refugees the current POTUS has brought it and how many more he will jam through before he turns over the office. How many possible terrorists are coming through? How many potential terrorists are their in that mix? Now compare that number to how many Christians got to come here with them.
If you haven't watched and middle to upper class neighborhood become completely replaced with Muslims...well suffice it to say, in this day and age, it is terrifying. Not only has Dearborn, Michigan become the biggest concentration of Muslims but in Hamtramck they petitioned to stop the ringing of church bells, as it offended them. Months later they forced through the call to prayer to be blasted on loudspeakers in the very same neighborhood. How is that equal and just?
If I were to emigrate to another country I would expect to learn the language and customs and not expect to force My ways on them.
Whatever happened to staying put and fighting for your own country? Aw heck, it is just plain easier and safer to go to the US and try to turn it in to the exact same mess they are fleeing.
On another note, I am flabbergasted and amused at the same time for all the fear these protesters are worried about. Gays are worried about losing their right to marry and Trump has already said that that is not an issue because it has already been legalized and faced the challenge at Supreme Court level, so let's move on to more important issues. Not sure about what women are supposed to fear. I am pretty sure that I don't have to worry about The Donald grabbing my a&& or saying something off color in my presence. If they want to say that it fosters the environment of similar attitudes being acceptable, I see a President that supports the law and if you break it you pay the price. In addition, what ever happen to the notion of personal responsibility? Oh yeah, it went out the window when "everybody gets a trophy " was ushered in.
They say that "they" do no feel represented, well I have not felt represented for decades now, so suck it up Buttercup, go home and get on with your life, the sky is not falling. Just because you are unhappy does not give you the right to assault others or destroy property. You have left the protest and entered in to a form of terrorism you bullies! What hypocrites!!!! |
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| I find it highly ironic but sadly not surprising that the press, who ran wild when Donald Trump said he might not except the election results if he lost, are in huge support of the protesters now that Hillary lost. Another example of the liberal press, we need to drain the swamp with them too. |
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        Location: CTX | All I can say is that last year I became a citizen the legal way. Took me over 5 years to get a green card and finally my citizenship. Countless papers that had to be filled out, notaried and what not. Paid probably $1500 for green cards and naturalization. Not to mention having to drive to Austin multiple times for fingerprints, then to San Antonio for interviews and to turn in paperwork.... Only to be addressed in Spanish when I get there!! Are you freaking serious!! I was not amused that day!!! Yes I am very frustrated that people just seem to "walk across the border" and get their citizenship! We used to joke about doing it like that, but I am proud to say I did it the correct way!!! And you bet your booty I voted for Trump!!!   |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-14 11:58 AM All I can say is that last year I became a citizen the legal way.
Took me over 5 years to get a green card and finally my citizenship.
Countless papers that had to be filled out, notaried and what not. Paid probably $1500 for green cards and naturalization. Not to mention having to drive to Austin multiple times for fingerprints, then to San Antonio for interviews and to turn in paperwork.... Only to be addressed in Spanish when I get there!! Are you freaking serious!! I was not amused that day!!!
Yes I am very frustrated that people just seem to "walk across the border" and get their citizenship! We used to joke about doing it like that, but I am proud to say I did it the correct way!!!
And you bet your booty I voted for Trump!!! 
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| cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-14 11:58 AM All I can say is that last year I became a citizen the legal way.
Took me over 5 years to get a green card and finally my citizenship.
Countless papers that had to be filled out, notaried and what not. Paid probably $1500 for green cards and naturalization. Not to mention having to drive to Austin multiple times for fingerprints, then to San Antonio for interviews and to turn in paperwork.... Only to be addressed in Spanish when I get there!! Are you freaking serious!! I was not amused that day!!!
Yes I am very frustrated that people just seem to "walk across the border" and get their citizenship! We used to joke about doing it like that, but I am proud to say I did it the correct way!!!
And you bet your booty I voted for Trump!!! 
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| foundation horse - 2016-11-14 11:18 AM There are reports that Trump received much much more support from the legal immigrant community to include the Mexican Americans than anyone anticipated.............................
It's also been estimated that Hillary recieved more than 3 million votes from illegal aliens. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-11-14 11:58 AM I find it highly ironic but sadly not surprising that the press, who ran wild when Donald Trump said he might not except the election results if he lost, are in huge support of the protesters now that Hillary lost. Another example of the liberal press, we need to drain the swamp with them too.
LOL. Yea, that;s been entertaining. I also love those on the left who were outraged with his locker room talk that are now shouting "F... Trump" , shooting the bird and displaying sexual toys. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbEeHK2JiXs
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason. |
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             Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2016-11-14 12:05 PM
foundation horse - 2016-11-14 11:18 AM There are reports that Trump received much much more support from the legal immigrant community to include the Mexican Americans than anyone anticipated.............................
It's also been estimated that Hillary recieved more than 3 million votes from illegal aliens.
With this revelation, (which I was already of), then One can logically conclude that Donald Trump won The Popular Vote as well as The Landslide of The Electoral College.
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        Location: Kansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason.
.........and the comeback there would have involved a "basket of deplorables." I think Hillary underestimates the damage this remark did to her campaign.
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| Frodo - 2016-11-14 12:54 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason. .........and the comeback there would have involved a "basket of deplorables." I think Hillary underestimates the damage this remark did to her campaign.
Britt Hume called us the "Cracker Barrel" Americans. LOL. I love Cracker Barrel. |
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| Frodo - 2016-11-14 12:54 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason. .........and the comeback there would have involved a "basket of deplorables." I think Hillary underestimates the damage this remark did to her campaign.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TXBO - 2016-11-14 12:58 PM Frodo - 2016-11-14 12:54 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason. .........and the comeback there would have involved a "basket of deplorables." I think Hillary underestimates the damage this remark did to her campaign.
Britt Hume called us the "Cracker Barrel" Americans. LOL. I love Cracker Barrel.
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And Cranky B4 10am, I missed your naturalization. Welcome and good luck chasing your American Dream.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | TXBO - 2016-11-14 12:58 PM Frodo - 2016-11-14 12:54 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason. .........and the comeback there would have involved a "basket of deplorables." I think Hillary underestimates the damage this remark did to her campaign.
Britt Hume called us the "Cracker Barrel" Americans. LOL. I love Cracker Barrel.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-14 11:58 AM All I can say is that last year I became a citizen the legal way.
Took me over 5 years to get a green card and finally my citizenship.
Countless papers that had to be filled out, notaried and what not. Paid probably $1500 for green cards and naturalization. Not to mention having to drive to Austin multiple times for fingerprints, then to San Antonio for interviews and to turn in paperwork.... Only to be addressed in Spanish when I get there!! Are you freaking serious!! I was not amused that day!!!
Yes I am very frustrated that people just seem to "walk across the border" and get their citizenship! We used to joke about doing it like that, but I am proud to say I did it the correct way!!!
And you bet your booty I voted for Trump!!! 
How cool! Wish we had more immigrants come in that believes this country is worth coming through the front door. Welcome! Too bad most American Citizens don't know the laws of this country like you do!    |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-14 12:58 PM All I can say is that last year I became a citizen the legal way. Took me over 5 years to get a green card and finally my citizenship. Countless papers that had to be filled out, notaried and what not. Paid probably $1500 for green cards and naturalization. Not to mention having to drive to Austin multiple times for fingerprints, then to San Antonio for interviews and to turn in paperwork.... Only to be addressed in Spanish when I get there!! Are you freaking serious!! I was not amused that day!!! Yes I am very frustrated that people just seem to "walk across the border" and get their citizenship! We used to joke about doing it like that, but I am proud to say I did it the correct way!!! And you bet your booty I voted for Trump!!!  We have so many men who work here trying to get it done. One even paid over $15K to an "attorney" that dissappeared before he became a citizen.
Very proud that you did this!
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        Location: CTX | 3canstorun - 2016-11-14 3:30 PM cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-14 12:58 PM All I can say is that last year I became a citizen the legal way.
Took me over 5 years to get a green card and finally my citizenship.
Countless papers that had to be filled out, notaried and what not. Paid probably $1500 for green cards and naturalization. Not to mention having to drive to Austin multiple times for fingerprints, then to San Antonio for interviews and to turn in paperwork.... Only to be addressed in Spanish when I get there!! Are you freaking serious!! I was not amused that day!!!
Yes I am very frustrated that people just seem to "walk across the border" and get their citizenship! We used to joke about doing it like that, but I am proud to say I did it the correct way!!!
And you bet your booty I voted for Trump!!! 
We have so many men who work here trying to get it done. One even paid over $15K to an "attorney" that dissappeared before he became a citizen.
Very proud that you did this!
Aww thank you guys. Very happy to be here.
Unfortunatly there are plenty of attorneys that take advantage of the insecurity of people trying to get into this country. And sometimes there is a language barrier, so they say they will help... yea, help fill their own pockets!!! We did it ourselves, and it is not real hard, just a lot of paperwork, and making sure you have all the evidence that is asked for. We had to make sure they knew (believed) my marriage is true, and not just for the green card. So pics and utility bills, bank accounts and what not. And you have to be persistent and patient at the same time. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-11-14 12:59 PM
Frodo - 2016-11-14 12:54 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-14 12:31 PM Someone actually said to me "Imagine what it's like to have a president who looks down on and despises people like you and your culture." Um, chica, I just lived that for 8 years. And yes, it sucks, but I don't think Trump actually feels that way, so...thanks, media, for scaring the crap out of people for no reason. .........and the comeback there would have involved a "basket of deplorables." I think Hillary underestimates the damage this remark did to her campaign.
Yep, sums it up perfectly and I agree, I don't think Trump despises anyone.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Obama could issue a full and free pardon of Hillary that would include anything she's done or any potential allegations that may arise over past activity up until the time that the pardon is issued. Of course, that would be looked upon by many as a tacit admission that she may well be guilty of RICO crimes, bribery, and quid-pro-quo/pay-for-play activities.
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Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!!
Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion)
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way 
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        Location: CTX | love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way 
Hugs to you!! That must have been devastating. But you made it! So be proud! Yes, I agree 100%, if you move to a new country you have to adjust and integrate to the country you move to and adjust to their customs. Of course you can keep some of your old customs. That will always be a part of you, but you absolutely need to learn the language and embrace the culture of your new home. No try to adjust the new country to your culture! |
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        Location: CTX | Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands. This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol. My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here...  
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 12:38 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands. This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol. My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America.  |
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands. This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol. My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America. 
I am from Spain. I moved here to go to school and well...life happened... met a boy, married him (divorced him 20 yrs later) , and well... here I am now!!!
I have always been a horse crazy person, always!!! and even though I was born down town Madrid I am a big "country girl". Horses have always been my passion since I can remember! Five years ago I married the most wonderful man and what I would call a true cowboy (he ranches for a living). He introduced me to barrel racing and boy oh boy... did I get hooked!!! Madly HOOKED!. A year after we met I went from being a Dressage queen to a barrel racer CRAZY and loving every minute of it!
I love USA, (I love Spain too but USA is my home and it has been for most of my life!!!) and when USA hurts like now, we all Americans hurt. I pray everyday that things calm down and we can all pull together, like we always did! I am a true believer that united we WILL ONCE AGAIN stand! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 1:02 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:43 PM cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 12:38 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands.
This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol.
My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America.  I am from Spain. I moved here to go to school and well...life happened... met a boy, married him (divorced him 20 yrs later ) , and well... here I am now!!! I have always been a horse crazy person, always!!! and even though I was born down town Madrid I am a big "country girl". Horses have always been my passion since I can remember! Five years ago I married the most wonderful man and what I would call a true cowboy (he ranches for a living ). He introduced me to barrel racing and boy oh boy... did I get hooked!!! Madly HOOKED!. A year after we met I went from being a Dressage queen to a barrel racer CRAZY and loving every minute of it! I love USA, (I love Spain too but USA is my home and it has been for most of my life!!! ) and when USA hurts like now, we all Americans hurt. I pray everyday that things calm down and we can all pull together, like we always did! I am a true believer that united we WILL ONCE AGAIN stand!
You sound like a very happy lady and all your dreams have come true for you, we need more Americans like you and Cranky that have woked for what you guys have, God Bless the two of you and to the rest of us Americans that want Our Country to be strong and great.  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 1:33 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 1:02 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:43 PM cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 12:38 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands.
This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol.
My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America.  I am from Spain. I moved here to go to school and well...life happened... met a boy, married him (divorced him 20 yrs later ) , and well... here I am now!!! I have always been a horse crazy person, always!!! and even though I was born down town Madrid I am a big "country girl". Horses have always been my passion since I can remember! Five years ago I married the most wonderful man and what I would call a true cowboy (he ranches for a living ). He introduced me to barrel racing and boy oh boy... did I get hooked!!! Madly HOOKED!. A year after we met I went from being a Dressage queen to a barrel racer CRAZY and loving every minute of it! I love USA, (I love Spain too but USA is my home and it has been for most of my life!!! ) and when USA hurts like now, we all Americans hurt. I pray everyday that things calm down and we can all pull together, like we always did! I am a true believer that united we WILL ONCE AGAIN stand! You sound like a very happy lady and all your dreams have come true for you, we need more Americans like you and Cranky that have woked for what you guys have, God Bless the two of you and to the rest of us Americans that want Our Country to be strong and great. 
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        Location: CTX | love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 1:02 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:43 PM cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 12:38 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands.
This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol.
My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America.  I am from Spain. I moved here to go to school and well...life happened... met a boy, married him (divorced him 20 yrs later ) , and well... here I am now!!! I have always been a horse crazy person, always!!! and even though I was born down town Madrid I am a big "country girl". Horses have always been my passion since I can remember! Five years ago I married the most wonderful man and what I would call a true cowboy (he ranches for a living ). He introduced me to barrel racing and boy oh boy... did I get hooked!!! Madly HOOKED!. A year after we met I went from being a Dressage queen to a barrel racer CRAZY and loving every minute of it! I love USA, (I love Spain too but USA is my home and it has been for most of my life!!! ) and when USA hurts like now, we all Americans hurt. I pray everyday that things calm down and we can all pull together, like we always did! I am a true believer that united we WILL ONCE AGAIN stand!
I am like you, born in the city (not as big as Madrid, but still all concrete...) Started riding when I was 9. And it was all English. Of course dressage, but I prefered jumping. And when I moved to Tx I didn't ride for a while, but once it's in your blood you can't keep away, so I found a place to ride and was introduced to barrel racing, and I was hooked. What a rush!!
STPG, I moved here in April 2005, so I have been here 11 years now. Been here on vacation (Canada and Wa State in 1993, and then again Wa State in 2002) and always dreamed of living in the US. I was not able to afford a horse in the Netherlands, and now I have 3 of them in the backyard! Yes ma'am, I am living the dream!!   |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 1:38 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 1:02 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:43 PM cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 12:38 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands.
This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol.
My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America.  I am from Spain. I moved here to go to school and well...life happened... met a boy, married him (divorced him 20 yrs later ) , and well... here I am now!!! I have always been a horse crazy person, always!!! and even though I was born down town Madrid I am a big "country girl". Horses have always been my passion since I can remember! Five years ago I married the most wonderful man and what I would call a true cowboy (he ranches for a living ). He introduced me to barrel racing and boy oh boy... did I get hooked!!! Madly HOOKED!. A year after we met I went from being a Dressage queen to a barrel racer CRAZY and loving every minute of it! I love USA, (I love Spain too but USA is my home and it has been for most of my life!!! ) and when USA hurts like now, we all Americans hurt. I pray everyday that things calm down and we can all pull together, like we always did! I am a true believer that united we WILL ONCE AGAIN stand! I am like you, born in the city (not as big as Madrid, but still all concrete...) Started riding when I was 9. And it was all English. Of course dressage, but I prefered jumping.
And when I moved to Tx I didn't ride for a while, but once it's in your blood you can't keep away, so I found a place to ride and was introduced to barrel racing, and I was hooked. What a rush!!
STPG, I moved here in April 2005, so I have been here 11 years now. Been here on vacation (Canada and Wa State in 1993, and then again Wa State in 2002) and always dreamed of living in the US.
I was not able to afford a horse in the Netherlands, and now I have 3 of them in the backyard! Yes ma'am, I am living the dream!! 
When that horse bug bites you theres no going back to a normal life style, lol. So gald to have you and love2ride as BB's.. To true Americans you Ladys are  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 1:54 PM
cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 1:38 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 1:02 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:43 PM cranky B4 10am - 2016-11-15 12:38 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-11-15 12:25 PM love2ridepre - 2016-11-15 11:41 AM Oh I SO LOVE YOU RIGHT NOW AS I HAD TO DO THE SAME!!!!! And while I was in the process of doing everything the RIGHT WAY (which it takes quite a while ) my dad died and I was not able to leave the country! So yes, I am ALSO VERY FRUSTRATED with this entitlement attitude that some of the illegals have. They give us all a bad name!!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, when you move to a foreign country you embrace the culture, the language, the customs (not saying that you cannot keep your own, as in my house we a very bicultural ) but come on!!! when you go to a friends house, do you abide by their rules or do you impose yours??? (again, just my opinion ) I am with you all the way  I may have missed it somewhere, but may I ask what countrys did you guys come from??? So proud to have you both as a BB on here. Y'all sound like a true American that works hard to be where you are now  I was born in the Netherlands.
This was supposed to be temporary for work, but met my (now) husband and that was it. lol.
My co-workers always made fun of me, telling me I was more country than most Americans even when I just moved here... 
Wow thats just so neat, you sound like a really cool lady. How long have you been living in the States? I think we need more like you to move here, you really have alot of respect for America.  I am from Spain. I moved here to go to school and well...life happened... met a boy, married him (divorced him 20 yrs later ) , and well... here I am now!!! I have always been a horse crazy person, always!!! and even though I was born down town Madrid I am a big "country girl". Horses have always been my passion since I can remember! Five years ago I married the most wonderful man and what I would call a true cowboy (he ranches for a living ). He introduced me to barrel racing and boy oh boy... did I get hooked!!! Madly HOOKED!. A year after we met I went from being a Dressage queen to a barrel racer CRAZY and loving every minute of it! I love USA, (I love Spain too but USA is my home and it has been for most of my life!!! ) and when USA hurts like now, we all Americans hurt. I pray everyday that things calm down and we can all pull together, like we always did! I am a true believer that united we WILL ONCE AGAIN stand! I am like you, born in the city (not as big as Madrid, but still all concrete...) Started riding when I was 9. And it was all English. Of course dressage, but I prefered jumping.
And when I moved to Tx I didn't ride for a while, but once it's in your blood you can't keep away, so I found a place to ride and was introduced to barrel racing, and I was hooked. What a rush!!
STPG, I moved here in April 2005, so I have been here 11 years now. Been here on vacation (Canada and Wa State in 1993, and then again Wa State in 2002) and always dreamed of living in the US.
I was not able to afford a horse in the Netherlands, and now I have 3 of them in the backyard! Yes ma'am, I am living the dream!! 
When that horse bug bites you theres no going back to a normal life style, lol. So gald to have you and love2ride as BB's.. To true Americans you Ladys are 
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I am also living the dream. I still believe that in this country if you work hard enough and you are determined... your dreams can come true! Mine did! Still working very hard but thankful for everything and everyday! GOD BLESS AMERICA!  |
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Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
I seriously doubt you would have seen riots across America.
Not only that, but this whole b!tching about the popular vote is an act of desperation. Both campaigns played for the EC vote, NOT the popular vote. If the presidency was determined by the popular vote, then they would have campaigned differently, and Trump would have kicked Hillary's ass that way as well. Hillary's popularity was topped out in both California and NY, for example. If Trump wanted to, he could have spent a couple days in each state and I bet he easily would have shaved off 500,000 votes. My point is the Trump campaign played the game based on the EC votes, and so did the Clinton campaign. This whole "popular vote winner" is lame.
In baseball, the team with the highest team batting average or lowest team ERA isn't necessarily the World Champion in a given year. The team who wins 4 games in the WS is the World Champion.
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      Location: Arkansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-15 3:45 PM
I'm girl crushin on both of y'all now 
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| Bear - 2016-11-15 4:21 PM TXBO - 2016-11-14 10:46 AM Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
I seriously doubt you would have seen riots across America. Not only that, but this whole b!tching about the popular vote is an act of desperation. Both campaigns played for the EC vote, NOT the popular vote. If the presidency was determined by the popular vote, then they would have campaigned differently, and Trump would have kicked Hillary's ass that way as well. Hillary's popularity was topped out in both California and NY, for example. If Trump wanted to, he could have spent a couple days in each state and I bet he easily would have shaved off 500,000 votes. My point is the Trump campaign played the game based on the EC votes, and so did the Clinton campaign. This whole "popular vote winner" is lame. In baseball, the team with the highest team batting average or lowest team ERA isn't necessarily the World Champion in a given year. The team who wins 4 games in the WS is the World Champion. Same thing with the POTUS. Trump won. It cannot be contested.
All very good points. Additionally, if our country were a pure democracy, the popular vote would mean everything. Monarchy rule by majority..... But we're not. We are a constitutional republic with sovereign states able to distribute their electoral votes as they see fit.
I find it extremely entertaining that before the election, all the talk was on how the electoral college now heavily favors democrats. It was even predicted that Trump would win the popular vote while Hillary won the electoral college by a landslide. I just love irony. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Bear - 2016-11-15 6:49 AM
Obama could issue a full and free pardon of Hillary that would include anything she's done or any potential allegations that may arise over past activity up until the time that the pardon is issued. Of course, that would be looked upon by many as a tacit admission that she may well be guilty of RICO crimes, bribery, and quid-pro-quo/pay-for-play activities.
It would be smart if Trump remained vague as to whether or not his DOJ will continue to investigate Hillary and the foundation.
My understanding is O can't pardon her unless she's charged/indicted. Is that not true? I would say wait until T is in office and then charge her so she can't be pardoned. I could give a flip about the people who voted for her being butthurt. SHE needs to be in jail or worse.
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | TXBO - 2016-11-16 10:29 AM
Bear - 2016-11-15 4:21 PM TXBO - 2016-11-14 10:46 AM Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-13 4:37 PM
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
karen
I seriously doubt you would have seen riots across America. Not only that, but this whole b!tching about the popular vote is an act of desperation. Both campaigns played for the EC vote, NOT the popular vote. If the presidency was determined by the popular vote, then they would have campaigned differently, and Trump would have kicked Hillary's ass that way as well. Hillary's popularity was topped out in both California and NY, for example. If Trump wanted to, he could have spent a couple days in each state and I bet he easily would have shaved off 500,000 votes. My point is the Trump campaign played the game based on the EC votes, and so did the Clinton campaign. This whole "popular vote winner" is lame. In baseball, the team with the highest team batting average or lowest team ERA isn't necessarily the World Champion in a given year. The team who wins 4 games in the WS is the World Champion. Same thing with the POTUS. Trump won. It cannot be contested.
All very good points. Additionally, if our country were a pure democracy, the popular vote would mean everything. Monarchy rule by majority..... But we're not. We are a constitutional republic with sovereign states able to distribute their electoral votes as they see fit.
I find it extremely entertaining that before the election, all the talk was on how the electoral college now heavily favors democrats. It was even predicted that Trump would win the popular vote while Hillary won the electoral college by a landslide. I just love irony.
If you take away the 3 million votes by dead people and illegal voters, Trump would have won the popular vote as well. They didn't cheat enough to win. It must suck to be them.  |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | OregonBR - 2016-11-16 1:50 PM
Bear - 2016-11-15 6:49 AM
Obama could issue a full and free pardon of Hillary that would include anything she's done or any potential allegations that may arise over past activity up until the time that the pardon is issued. Of course, that would be looked upon by many as a tacit admission that she may well be guilty of RICO crimes, bribery, and quid-pro-quo/pay-for-play activities.
It would be smart if Trump remained vague as to whether or not his DOJ will continue to investigate Hillary and the foundation.
My understanding is O can't pardon her unless she's charged/indicted. Is that not true? I would say wait until T is in office and then charge her so she can't be pardoned. I could give a flip about the people who voted for her being butthurt. SHE needs to be in jail or worse.
I've read that he can pardon her for anything she may have done up to the time of the pardon. I've also heard judge Napalitano say this as well, I believe. When Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, he was pardoned for any crimes related to the Watergate scandal, regardless of whether or not charges had been contemplated.
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