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     Location: SW North Dakota | My daughter is 14. She's fearless and has ALWAYS been mounted on something safe and competitive for her level- maybe a tish undermounted, but she's able to get all of the goodie out of one. We know she's probably ready for a step up horse... I just didn't think it would be MINE.
I hurt my knee last week, and let her ride my work in progress. He's just started going fast this fall, but I've struggled with him bowing out of a random barrel almost every time I enter him. I went to a clinic, reviewed videos, sent videos off for review, etc. and couldn't figure out what was going on, because he wins the world every time I run him at home.
So, my daughter rides him the night before. He's super soft and responsive and WAY lighter than anything she's run before. She says she has him figured out, so she runs him the next day at the JP. It was beautiful! She was a little more "handsy" thanhe was used to, but made a 2D run that was 10th overall. Because we didn't know how it would go, she didn't roll her time to the youth. She pulled on his face a little too much and drug down the second barrel on the way out. If we would have rolled, she would have won the youth by a full tenth. I am SO PROUD of both of them, but also selfishly disappointed that I can't seem to get that out of him. I trained him, and wanted him for myself. Of course, if she can ride him better and likes him, she can use him. He's quite a lot faster and more powerful than her gritty little mare, and she will be a freshman next year...
I'm hoping my bittersweet feelings are normal, and guessing there are a bunch of you who have experienced this either as the mom or the kid! |
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          Location: Missouri | Every good horse I've ever had ends up with one of my kids, lol. These last two I trained myself. The one I run in the open now, my daughter gets way more speed out of her than I do and this is the next horse she will be running IF she comes back to it. She is a Senior this year, I just sold the older horse I bought for myself back to the previous owner for her neices and nephews because he was getting older and she didn't run much this year anyway. She asked me if I was going to buy her a new one and I said no, if you want to run, run the roan. I'm currently patterning a 3 year old and told her absolutely she's NOT running him, lol.
So yes, I feel your pain. My kids were always more successful than I was because they ended up with my horse. But................I wouldn't have it any other way. I understand your feelings. |
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     Location: SE KS | I'm somewhat envious of you both, bc I have a horse I trained & need a more aggressive rider for & have no kid to run him!!!! LOL |
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | It is what mothers do -- give all their best horses to their daughters !!! |
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| Every single horse I train I try to make good enough for my daughters (12 and 8) It's a fact of life at my house. Get it going good and then it's stolen/aka given to a daughter. So far I've lost 3 and could potentially lose 2 more here shortly.
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     Location: SW North Dakota | Tbred - 2016-11-14 1:01 PM
Every good horse I've ever had ends up with one of my kids, lol. These last two I trained myself. The one I run in the open now, my daughter gets way more speed out of her than I do and this is the next horse she will be running IF she comes back to it. She is a Senior this year, I just sold the older horse I bought for myself back to the previous owner for her neices and nephews because he was getting older and she didn't run much this year anyway. She asked me if I was going to buy her a new one and I said no, if you want to run, run the roan. I'm currently patterning a 3 year old and told her absolutely she's NOT running him, lol.
So yes, I feel your pain. My kids were always more successful than I was because they ended up with my horse. But................I wouldn't have it any other way. I understand your feelings.
The mare that she runs now is home-raised. She's placing in the top ten consistently in the barrels at the JH rodeos and in the top 5 in the poles. The mare is capable of winning the pole bending (and she has), but honestly she is lucky if she's 3rd in the barrels. I keep trying to tell her that being consistent is key, but she just wants to WIN. So she wins the goat tying (LOL). Our Junior High rodeo is super tough in the barrels. There are a lot of talented kids on high-dollar horses, which I can't afford. She could win on this gelding, but he's not totally seasoned yet, and she'll need to tone it down a little if she wants to KEEP winning on him. It will be a good learning experience for her. I'm just feeling a little OLD and unhandy because she showed me up on my own horse in one run! |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My daughter (she's 8) has already claimed the one I'm training now. I'm ok with it though, because that's what I had in mind when I bought him. Now, if she went after my mare, we might have words.  |
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     Location: SW North Dakota | purplemoon828 - 2016-11-14 1:29 PM Every single horse I train I try to make good enough for my daughters (12 and 8) It's a fact of life at my house. Get it going good and then it's stolen/aka given to a daughter. So far I've lost 3 and could potentially lose 2 more here shortly. Welcome to the club
Hahaha. Thanks... I think! I feel like I'm going to try to micromanage her until she slows her hands down, though. She might decide it's not worth it! HAHA |
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| I totally feel your pain. I have 3 daughters who are all good at stealing my horses! But I have to admit that the day my daughter won her first pro-rodeo on one of my horses was a better feeling than anything I could have ever won.
But still to this day, I'm riding a horse that I "borrowed" from my father, so I'm guessing its just Karma! |
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     Location: SW North Dakota | She does amaze me, though. I gave her like 3 bullet point instructions on how to ride him and she managed to get them 90% correct. I asked her to just take it easy , and she let him roll about 3/4 speed. She sent him harder in her youth run, but pulled him up after he tipped, so I don't know how that would have clocked. She was .5 slower than the winning time loping him home, though.
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          Location: Missouri | ND3canAddict - 2016-11-14 2:30 PM
Tbred - 2016-11-14 1:01 PM
Every good horse I've ever had ends up with one of my kids, lol. These last two I trained myself. The one I run in the open now, my daughter gets way more speed out of her than I do and this is the next horse she will be running IF she comes back to it. She is a Senior this year, I just sold the older horse I bought for myself back to the previous owner for her neices and nephews because he was getting older and she didn't run much this year anyway. She asked me if I was going to buy her a new one and I said no, if you want to run, run the roan. I'm currently patterning a 3 year old and told her absolutely she's NOT running him, lol.
So yes, I feel your pain. My kids were always more successful than I was because they ended up with my horse. But................I wouldn't have it any other way. I understand your feelings.
The mare that she runs now is home-raised. She's placing in the top ten consistently in the barrels at the JH rodeos and in the top 5 in the poles. The mare is capable of winning the pole bending (and she has ), but honestly she is lucky if she's 3rd in the barrels. I keep trying to tell her that being consistent is key, but she just wants to WIN. So she wins the goat tying (LOL ). Our Junior High rodeo is super tough in the barrels. There are a lot of talented kids on high-dollar horses, which I can't afford. She could win on this gelding, but he's not totally seasoned yet, and she'll need to tone it down a little if she wants to KEEP winning on him. It will be a good learning experience for her. I'm just feeling a little OLD and unhandy because she showed me up on my own horse in one run!
Oh I hear ya! The roan I trained has way more potential than I'm riding her with. It bums me out when she out runs me on my own horse, but........I make myself feel better by telling myself (remember you trained it). I really want this horse to do well and I have actually begged her to ride it because I can't seem to get the speed that she can. She is hard to get a clean run on, so my daughter doesn't like to run her because of that.
I know that IF she would listen to me to be clean, and would run her all the time, this little roan could at least be consistent 2D.
The horse I just sold, even though he ended up running with my step son and then my youngest, they couldn't out run me on him bahahaha! I'd always get them by a tenth or more :) |
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     Location: west of East Texas | Yes, I soooo feel your pain. I have two daughters, five years apart. I've been in 'train it for the kid' mode since 2003. I feel like I have a coupon that expires every 1-2 years. They don't ALWAYS outrun me on my own horse but often enough that we expect it to happen. And once that happens... I've lost the horse until I get the next one up to speed or an injured horse has healed. The latest is a 'buy-back' that I brought home last month. I loved this horse and was soooo excited to get her back. That lasted 3 weeks before DD2 made a run on her just for 'grins'. Having never even sat on her before, DD2 outran me on my regular horse, outran me on the buy-back horse, and outran herself on her own horse. Now she says she has a 'rodeo' horse and 'barrel race' horse. Whattttt? Why does she get two????? :) |
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| Or even better I'm told "This is my indoor horse, this is my rodeo horse and this is my big pen horse"...WTH your 12!!! But seriously though she's riding stuff I've done 99% of the work on and it's an awfully great moment when she can pilot them and win. Now I just gotta do a couple more.. |
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          Location: Missouri | chasendacash - 2016-11-14 3:51 PM Yes, I soooo feel your pain. I have two daughters, five years apart. I've been in 'train it for the kid' mode since 2003. I feel like I have a coupon that expires every 1-2 years. They don't ALWAYS outrun me on my own horse but often enough that we expect it to happen. And once that happens... I've lost the horse until I get the next one up to speed or an injured horse has healed. The latest is a 'buy-back' that I brought home last month. I loved this horse and was soooo excited to get her back. That lasted 3 weeks before DD2 made a run on her just for 'grins'. Having never even sat on her before, DD2 outran me on my regular horse, outran me on the buy-back horse, and outran herself on her own horse. Now she says she has a 'rodeo' horse and 'barrel race' horse. Whattttt? Why does she get two????? :)
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| Tbred - 2016-11-14 4:07 PM chasendacash - 2016-11-14 3:51 PM Yes, I soooo feel your pain. I have two daughters, five years apart. I've been in 'train it for the kid' mode since 2003. I feel like I have a coupon that expires every 1-2 years. They don't ALWAYS outrun me on my own horse but often enough that we expect it to happen. And once that happens... I've lost the horse until I get the next one up to speed or an injured horse has healed. The latest is a 'buy-back' that I brought home last month. I loved this horse and was soooo excited to get her back. That lasted 3 weeks before DD2 made a run on her just for 'grins'. Having never even sat on her before, DD2 outran me on my regular horse, outran me on the buy-back horse, and outran herself on her own horse. Now she says she has a 'rodeo' horse and 'barrel race' horse. Whattttt? Why does she get two????? :) That made me LOL
I have two very nice head horses that never furthered my roping skills because of their time on the cloverleaf. Wouldn't have it any other way. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | i have a couple of houses and at least a mid level Italian sports car tied up in Horses.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-11-14 4:33 PM i have a couple of houses and at least a mid level Italian sports car tied up in Horses.
Does that count?
LOL! I bet you're like me though.....I wouldn't trade one memory for a house or sports car. |
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      Location: Willows, CA | My daughters are grown. When they were younger they seemed to take the best horses and leave their dogs (mostly labs) at my place. |
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| I've always had the opposite problem!!! My mom can and always has been able to out-jockey me on my horses. Maybe one day when she's 90 I'll be able to outrun her!!!!  |
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        Location: on my horse | I'm the horse stealing daughter in this party . She was fairly certain that my horse at the time as going to kill me so we traded "for the summer" and I ended up riding him through my last years of high school and my first two years of college, patterning him on barrels (he was our reiner... well hers... that I stole), and rodeoing a little bit on him then guilt kicked in. She's got him back now and has for the last several years, I can't outrun her on him anymore to save my life and ride him maybe once a month. So hang in there moms, it can eventually come full circle and your horses will return to you 
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       Location: Texas | I only have sons. That means we shipped a generation. Granddaughter now rides the best horse that I have ever owned. (I actually bought him with her in mind since I can't ride fast horses anymore) lol |
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       Location: North Dakota | Yup. Stole my Beau from my mom when I was 14.
He was 4 years old when I was 14 and I begged her to let me start riding him. She put a few rides on him in the spring (he was a colt, after all) and then finally gave me the reins. She didn't get him back, LOL.
I'm 30 now, and I may still steal her horse from her. (She's got a QUICK Frenchman's Guy grandson.) She just doesn't know it yet!
Of course, I have a daughter of my own now (5 months old) and I'm sure she's going to steal my Shotgun from me in the future. I'm hoping to get a good year on him next summer, but he's so laid back that I think he's going to turn into a peewee horse sooner rather than later, haha. |
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      Location: North Texas | ND3canAddict - 2016-11-14 1:44 PM My daughter is 14. She's fearless and has ALWAYS been mounted on something safe and competitive for her level- maybe a tish undermounted, but she's able to get all of the goodie out of one. We know she's probably ready for a step up horse... I just didn't think it would be MINE.
I hurt my knee last week, and let her ride my work in progress. He's just started going fast this fall, but I've struggled with him bowing out of a random barrel almost every time I enter him. I went to a clinic, reviewed videos, sent videos off for review, etc. and couldn't figure out what was going on, because he wins the world every time I run him at home.
So, my daughter rides him the night before. He's super soft and responsive and WAY lighter than anything she's run before. She says she has him figured out, so she runs him the next day at the JP. It was beautiful! She was a little more "handsy" thanhe was used to, but made a 2D run that was 10th overall. Because we didn't know how it would go, she didn't roll her time to the youth. She pulled on his face a little too much and drug down the second barrel on the way out. If we would have rolled, she would have won the youth by a full tenth. I am SO PROUD of both of them, but also selfishly disappointed that I can't seem to get that out of him. I trained him, and wanted him for myself. Of course, if she can ride him better and likes him, she can use him. He's quite a lot faster and more powerful than her gritty little mare, and she will be a freshman next year...
I'm hoping my bittersweet feelings are normal, and guessing there are a bunch of you who have experienced this either as the mom or the kid!
I am the daughter that used to take my mom's mounts lol
What we kind of figured out is she tended to stay in "training" mode so she had a hard time getting as much out of her projects as I did. After I made several runs on them, however, she was able to go back and make the same kind of runs. I had the same issue with a couple of my projects. Sometimes it is a mental thing that is causing you to not get the same kind of hustle out of the horse....just a thought since you said you weren't getting the same out of him. |
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     Location: SW North Dakota | dkcowgirl - 2016-11-15 11:24 AM ND3canAddict - 2016-11-14 1:44 PM My daughter is 14. She's fearless and has ALWAYS been mounted on something safe and competitive for her level- maybe a tish undermounted, but she's able to get all of the goodie out of one. We know she's probably ready for a step up horse... I just didn't think it would be MINE.
I hurt my knee last week, and let her ride my work in progress. He's just started going fast this fall, but I've struggled with him bowing out of a random barrel almost every time I enter him. I went to a clinic, reviewed videos, sent videos off for review, etc. and couldn't figure out what was going on, because he wins the world every time I run him at home.
So, my daughter rides him the night before. He's super soft and responsive and WAY lighter than anything she's run before. She says she has him figured out, so she runs him the next day at the JP. It was beautiful! She was a little more "handsy" thanhe was used to, but made a 2D run that was 10th overall. Because we didn't know how it would go, she didn't roll her time to the youth. She pulled on his face a little too much and drug down the second barrel on the way out. If we would have rolled, she would have won the youth by a full tenth. I am SO PROUD of both of them, but also selfishly disappointed that I can't seem to get that out of him. I trained him, and wanted him for myself. Of course, if she can ride him better and likes him, she can use him. He's quite a lot faster and more powerful than her gritty little mare, and she will be a freshman next year...
I'm hoping my bittersweet feelings are normal, and guessing there are a bunch of you who have experienced this either as the mom or the kid! I am the daughter that used to take my mom's mounts lol
What we kind of figured out is she tended to stay in "training" mode so she had a hard time getting as much out of her projects as I did. After I made several runs on them, however, she was able to go back and make the same kind of runs. I had the same issue with a couple of my projects. Sometimes it is a mental thing that is causing you to not get the same kind of hustle out of the horse....just a thought since you said you weren't getting the same out of him.
I think this is exactly what's happening with us. I thought I'd let her run him a bit at some jackpots, then I'll rodeo on him next summer and she can crack out next fall on him at the HS rodeos. |
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| ha ha sounds awfully familiar - I never intended for any of my horses to become my daughters mounts, she ended up getting 4 of my horses over the years. Life and circumstances always seemed to work in her favor. Welcome to having daughters who share your passion. |
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