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| Blazin Jetolena is by a son of Doc O' Lena...
Louie is by a stud who is a grandson of both Docs Oak and Docs Lynx
Smokin Koa Lena is out of a mare in which both parents are Doc O Lena grand get.
When I see Docs Oak, Docs Stylish Oak, or Doc O Lena on a set of papers..my ears perk up.
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Location: NE Texas | The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. |
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| Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun.
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM
Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun.
I do love him!
My first futurity colt was by a son of playgun. We LOVED her. She was smart and super gritty. She won about 40k at the futurities and went on to be a really nice open horse. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Chelsea Moore from BC runs a cutting bred gelding. She has won a ton of CPRA money on him and recently won Regina Saskatchewan. Super cool little horse. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | This is the gelding im picking up next month he's a super nice colt very broke and naturally rear Endy. Real nice bone on him and hip/hocks.
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| RnRJack - 2016-12-20 2:09 PM
This is the gelding im picking up next month he's a super nice colt very broke and naturally rear Endy. Real nice bone on him and hip/hocks.
I know there's no run there but he should be able to turn for sure
I don't see the pedigree but you might be surprised when there is "no run" there.......quick feet go a long way!! I love my Doc O'Lena/ Doc's Oak Sugar gelding! |
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| Best barrel, roping, cutting horse I ever had was a son of Doc's Jack Sprat out of a Leo Question mare. Took my niece to the Junior World Show in Ft. Worth 3 years in a row, then she went on and done the High School Rodeo on him then went into the NBHA. He passed away last year at the age of 33. He was a very gifted horse wish I had a barn full just like him. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Lacinda Rose has a bad cat that's a grandson of Meradas Money Talks. There are several Royal Fletch babies that are running 1D barrels....they're tiny though. Ours is only 13.3 Our big ranch gelding and several others that we have are Docs Stylish Oak grandbabies. They've all got plenty of speed. My latest young horse is a grandson of Shining Spark and Topsail Whiz. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | There are way more then you think. Playgun get and grandget, Doc Olena, Highbrow Cat, Topsails Reinmaker, Shining Spark, Nic It In The Bud, Topsail Cody, all have speed and have produced many top 1D horses and rodeo horses. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | High brow cats are big down here, lots of 1/2D horses |
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Location: NE Texas | scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. I do love him!
Do you know what the name of the horse Cheryl Laws ran in the futurity (I think) was? I'd be interested to see what kind of mare that horse was out of. Of course Nico Suave has been super fun to watch and recently won the American qualifier at Glen Rose. Neat, neat horse! |
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| Herbie - 2016-12-21 11:58 AM scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. I do love him!
She placed on RunAway Play gun
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/runaway+play+gun
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Location: NE Texas | scwebster - 2016-12-21 12:16 PM
Herbie - 2016-12-21 11:58 AM scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. I do love him!
Thank you! And I stand corrected in my previous statement. I misunderstood the announcer and thought he said that horse was by Playgun too. That's what I get for trying to work during the BFA webcast! LOL Thanks again!
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | I have always been partial to my "cow ponies." I have a grandson of Handlebar Doc that we do EVERYTHING on! SO works cows on him, he's our main catch horse, rope heads and heels on him and he's a 1D/2D barrel horse. My 5 year old is a Cat Ichi (own son of High Brow Cat) out of an own daughter of Smart Little Richochet. |
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| Herbie - 2016-12-21 12:50 PM scwebster - 2016-12-21 12:16 PM Herbie - 2016-12-21 11:58 AM scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. I do love him! Thank you! And I stand corrected in my previous statement. I misunderstood the announcer and thought he said that horse was by Playgun too. That's what I get for trying to work during the BFA webcast! LOL Thanks again!
Well taking his name into consideration you would think he was by Playgun :) Ive tried watching and working also I know what you mean! |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Also, my senior stallion, was by Frenchmans Guy and out of a Peponita x Hollywood Gold mare. He won a lot, was a 2X Badlands Circuit pro rodeo finalist. You'd never have known he was all cow bred, to watch him run.
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Location: NE Texas | rockinas - 2016-12-21 1:12 PM I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | rockinas - 2016-12-21 2:12 PM I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool.
Can't wait to see it run. Love some Metallic Cat. |
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Location: WI | Where does one shop for a cutting reject? Track rejects are so easy to find! |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | 3canstorun - 2016-12-21 1:38 PM rockinas - 2016-12-21 2:12 PM I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool.
She had an accident & fractured a bone in her hock about a year ago. So she's had a lot of time off. I've been back on her for about 3 months now and so far she's staying sound. If she physically holds together, she is going to be a lot of fun. |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | My best barrel horse and producer of very good barrel horses was a Docs Prescription mare. I will take those lines all day! |
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| My first barrel horse...kys magic gunsmoke placed second at NBHA Colonial Nationals, and 8th in the NBHA Youth finals in 2014. Has many other 1D runs with the little girl I sold him to. He is Reminic and Gunsmoke bred. If you Google his name it will all come up.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | So my new guy is super laid back and mellow I was thinking of a barn name for him and I thought of the turtle on finding Nemo named "crush" so I was going to call him crush but with a K (krush) and then I thought I could change his registered name to " A krushed prescription " or krush my prescription but I don't want to sound like a drug addict LOL |
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Location: Arkansas | rockinas - 2016-12-21 1:12 PM
I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool.
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| Shelli Creacy's horse Nico Suave is a Playgun and I think ran the fastest time at the WPRA Finals. If not it was one of the fastest runs all week. Then she won the American qualifier at Glen Rose with another phenomenal run. Shelly Morgan has won lots of pro rodeo $ on at least 2 different cutting bred horses but I don't know the exact bloodlines. |
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| All I ride is cowbred and I love my current open horse. He is by Rap Cat (Highbrow Cat) out of a Freckles Merada Mare. My up and coming barrel Horse is a 3 yo filly by Third Cutting out of a Lectric Playboy daughter. She is talented, smart, and fast! The best one I've trained was a daughter of Bobs Hickory Rio out of a Smart Little Pistol daughter. She's a freak and sooo talented. This is a video of one of the girls friends riding her (first time to swing a leg on her) and running 1D against over 100 head (with tough horses). https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153440179477552&id=249... |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | So no one answered me (lol) the papers I posted, is this a good cross for barrel racing/performance? I see a lot of the same lines people are mentioning and I'm getting excited! |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Chandler's Mom - 2016-12-21 8:50 PM rockinas - 2016-12-21 1:12 PM I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool. And I bet she's good looking too!
She is cute.
I'd post a picture of her but for some reason, I can't.
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Location: Arkansas | rockinas - 2016-12-22 2:43 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-12-21 8:50 PM rockinas - 2016-12-21 1:12 PM I have a daughter of Metallic Cat that hasn't been entered yet....she is a futurity horse for next year....she's going to be pretty cool. And I bet she's good looking too!
I'd post a picture of her but for some reason, I can't.
He makes pretty pretty babies!!
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her.
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | rockinas - 2016-12-22 6:58 PM
She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her.
They won the futurity (NCHA) on a daughter of Spots Hot this year!! I'd be SUPER STOKED if I was you!! |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | RnRJack - 2016-12-22 2:39 PM
So no one answered me (lol) the papers I posted, is this a good cross for barrel racing/performance? I see a lot of the same lines people are mentioning and I'm getting excited!
I love a peptoboonsmal!!! We have two, one who is by an own son and a filly out of an own daughter. They are BRILLIANT. They can be a little tough- they are so smart that you kinda have to make them think it's their idea!! But, both of ours are super athletic and fast! I'll be starting both of them this spring when I, myself get off of broodmare duty! |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Ashley Lynn - 2016-12-22 9:09 PM rockinas - 2016-12-22 6:58 PM She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her. They won the futurity (NCHA ) on a daughter of Spots Hot this year!! I'd be SUPER STOKED if I was you!!
Thanks! Yes, I have friends that keep up on all of that and they had said that!
I totally lucked into this mare a year ago. She'd been shown in some reined cowhorse events and had won a little money. I stumbled onto her in a Facebook group, and a friend went and checked her out for me. I ended up buying her sight unseen and had her shipped up here.
Believe it or not I bought her for my husband to do mounted shooting off of, but she's so nice on the barrels already, I haven't let him on her yet-- LOL!
We actually flushed an embryo out of her this year, to Firewater Finale so that will be exciting to see in this spring.
I'd like to flush her to a cutting horse this year, but there's lots of possibilities with her pedigree. |
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Location: North of where I want to be | Best barrel horses I have ever had have all been cow bred x on speed. The very best one came from Shomakers and was by Shoot Yeah out of a Docs Prescription mare.
The one I have now( this years prospect if you will) is a HBH & Doc Lynx on top , Snicklefritz Chex on the bottom. I LOVE this horse.
After my last encounter with something that was all speed bred I am going back to my roots.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | The only thing I don't like about him is that he's a HE lol, and I can't breed some run into all that cow.... So it will be a gamble to see if he has the heart to be a barrel horse |
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| Most of these cutters are pretty small. Would some of you say the average size of these horses are 15hh and under? Just curious....seems like barrel racers and ropes ...heelers in particular are going back to smaller horses. I personally like a smaller horse. |
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| RnRJack - 2016-12-20 6:07 PM
Duh my bad
I think you have a nice one on your hands! Lots of experience with multiple of those on your horses papers and they've all been super successful. |
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Location: Kansas | sandygirl1 - 2016-12-23 4:07 PM Most of these cutters are pretty small. Would some of you say the average size of these horses are 15hh and under? Just curious....seems like barrel racers and ropes ...heelers in particular are going back to smaller horses. I personally like a smaller horse.
Agree. My husband's heel horse is probably 14.1 or 2 and a stout little beauty. I feel like an Amazon on him. He's a grandson of High Brow Cat.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I've always ridden smaller horses, haven't had anything over 15.2 in years, my fastest horse was barley 14.2 out of an easily smashed stud unfortunately he died from colic. I like them around 15.1 the best but they can be small As long as they have a long stride |
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Location: Arkansas | rockinas - 2016-12-22 6:58 PM
She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her.
Oh my, you have a special girl on your hands!! I know a lot more about cutting horses than barrel horses (I'm learning from y'all tho!) and your girl makes my mouth water  |
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Location: Kansas | RnRJack - 2016-12-23 7:37 PM I've always ridden smaller horses, haven't had anything over 15.2 in years, my fastest horse was barley 14.2 out of an easily smashed stud unfortunately he died from colic. I like them around 15.1 the best but they can be small As long as they have a long stride
For me little quick horses are harder to ride than larger full-bodied ones.
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | sandygirl1 - 2016-12-23 2:07 PM Most of these cutters are pretty small. Would some of you say the average size of these horses are 15hh and under? Just curious....seems like barrel racers and ropes ...heelers in particular are going back to smaller horses. I personally like a smaller horse.
I would say "average" sized is 14.2 or UNDER. MANY of them are under 14 hands. And a lot are 14.1 |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | RacingQH - 2016-12-25 11:05 AM
sandygirl1 - 2016-12-23 2:07 PM Most of these cutters are pretty small. Would some of you say the average size of these horses are 15hh and under? Just curious....seems like barrel racers and ropes ...heelers in particular are going back to smaller horses. I personally like a smaller horse.
I would say "average" sized is 14.2 or UNDER. MANY of them are under 14 hands. And a lot are 14.1
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Herbie - 2016-12-21 11:58 AM scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. I do love him!
Thank you! And I stand corrected in my previous statement. I misunderstood the announcer and thought he said that horse was by Playgun too. That's what I get for trying to work during the BFA webcast! LOL Thanks again!
The sire to this horse is full brother to Bill Cole, Oceans Runaway and Wave Carver. I have several Bill Cole. They don't know they're big horses :) they turn like little cow ponies |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Chandler's Mom - 2016-12-24 12:29 AM rockinas - 2016-12-22 6:58 PM She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her. Oh my, you have a special girl on your hands!! I know a lot more about cutting horses than barrel horses (I'm learning from y'all tho! ) and your girl makes my mouth water
Thank you! She's pretty cool. If I knew how to get a picture put up, I'd post one. |
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| rockinas - 2016-12-25 3:43 PM Chandler's Mom - 2016-12-24 12:29 AM rockinas - 2016-12-22 6:58 PM She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her. Oh my, you have a special girl on your hands!! I know a lot more about cutting horses than barrel horses (I'm learning from y'all tho! ) and your girl makes my mouth water
You just amaze me, you are the defination of get er done no matter the elements of the weather. I don't know you but admire what you get done in your frozen tundra. I live in SE corner of Kansas and hate our weather non the less yours yet you never quit. Kudo's to you, you sure have my respect!!
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Location: Arkansas | rockinas - 2016-12-25 3:43 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-12-24 12:29 AM rockinas - 2016-12-22 6:58 PM She is out Special Nu Spot, by Spots Hot, 2nd dam is Nu I would. Dam to my mare is a half sister to Special Nu Baby, who I believe set an NCHA earnings record last year. She's got a pretty strong maternal side for cutting, I got a good deal on her a year ago when I bought her. Oh my, you have a special girl on your hands!! I know a lot more about cutting horses than barrel horses (I'm learning from y'all tho! ) and your girl makes my mouth water
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Location: NE Texas | iloveequine40 - 2016-12-25 1:34 PM Herbie - 2016-12-21 12:50 PM scwebster - 2016-12-21 12:16 PM Herbie - 2016-12-21 11:58 AM scwebster - 2016-12-20 10:23 AM Herbie - 2016-12-20 10:16 AM The two horses I was most impressed by from watching the webcast of the BFA were both by Playgun. I do love him! Thank you! And I stand corrected in my previous statement. I misunderstood the announcer and thought he said that horse was by Playgun too. That's what I get for trying to work during the BFA webcast! LOL Thanks again! The sire to this horse is full brother to Bill Cole, Oceans Runaway and Wave Carver. I have several Bill Cole. They don't know they're big horses : ) they turn like little cow ponies
I noticed that. I tried to buy a Bill Cole colt a few years back and didn't get it done. Wish I had! |
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| sandygirl1 - 2016-12-23 4:07 PM Most of these cutters are pretty small. Would some of you say the average size of these horses are 15hh and under? Just curious....seems like barrel racers and ropes ...heelers in particular are going back to smaller horses. I personally like a smaller horse. My husband prefers smaller horses to heel on. Between 14 and 15 hh and not over 15.
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