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| Anybody use any of these products? If so which ones? Is it cheaper than PP or Oxygen? |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I use wind pre race and revive post race on one mare and composed pre race on another mare. Way cheaper than oxy-gen and work as good imo. |
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Location: SW North Dakota | We've used the Nitro with results similar to Jailbreak. They have sales fairly often and it's $10/tube. We also started using Game Changer late this summer. I had 5 horses on it for about 3 months. Not sure if they were on it long enough to notice a difference, but I didn't. They hadn't been on any supplements all year to that point. I think I paid $130 for an gallon sized pail, which lasted me about 2.5 weeks. Short story- we'll keep the Nitro paste and most likely ditch the Game Changer. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Tried a few products on a problem horse I had and didn't really see the results I wanted. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ND3canAddict - 2016-12-20 2:56 PM We've used the Nitro with results similar to Jailbreak. They have sales fairly often and it's $10/tube. We also started using Game Changer late this summer. I had 5 horses on it for about 3 months. Not sure if they were on it long enough to notice a difference, but I didn't. They hadn't been on any supplements all year to that point. I think I paid $130 for an gallon sized pail, which lasted me about 2.5 weeks. Short story- we'll keep the Nitro paste and most likely ditch the Game Changer.
I love the Nitro too. I got into the half price sale so I stocked up for next year. I was reading up on Game Changer and was thinking of trying it. Maybe I'll ask around for others opinions. |
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Location: ARKANSAS | I LOVE my OE supplements!!!!! ALIGN is great for hard keepers and even those that arent! the hard keepers you just give the reccomended dosage and the easy keepers you drop back to about a one ounce scoop...i have seen this product turn three horses into 3 different horses in looks...in just 2 months time...i have 2 horses on gamechanger...i just sold a horse that developed ulcers a few weeks befroe i sold him and i bought their ulcer products and it cured him of his ulcers (per the present owner) so i thoughly beleive in their products!!!!!!! |
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Location: Northern California | Had my mare on Hoof Evolution and saw a huge difference. Awesome results!!! |
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Location: SW North Dakota | CYA Ranch - 2016-12-21 12:43 PM ND3canAddict - 2016-12-20 2:56 PM We've used the Nitro with results similar to Jailbreak. They have sales fairly often and it's $10/tube. We also started using Game Changer late this summer. I had 5 horses on it for about 3 months. Not sure if they were on it long enough to notice a difference, but I didn't. They hadn't been on any supplements all year to that point. I think I paid $130 for an gallon sized pail, which lasted me about 2.5 weeks. Short story- we'll keep the Nitro paste and most likely ditch the Game Changer. I love the Nitro too. I got into the half price sale so I stocked up for next year. I was reading up on Game Changer and was thinking of trying it. Maybe I'll ask around for others opinions.
My horses already looked good and none had issues, so it wasn't like I was trying to fix something. But no one sprouted wings or farted rainbows, so I will just save $260/month! HA |
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| I'm a band wagon jumper, not going to lie there. So I had to try these supplements. I had a mare with ulcers so I did the solution, maintain, then I got a 50lb bag of align for no change. I've feed Forco for years with better results and that's way cheaper then the align. Never tried any of the pastes. But I probably won't be buying those products again. I get "sucked" in by the "its all a miracle" posts I see on facebook. I need to remind myself those posts are probably girls that are sponsored by them aka free product lol |
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| Following this post now because while I know feed through scan be a crap shoot for joints and stuff my horse is barefoot and I know the hoof supplements help her a TON. And I'm considering putting her on Gamechanger since I'm just feeding the one & it won't break me, lol, for preventative joint maintenance, just to see if she seems to react well. :) |
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Location: Southern Indiana | I don't think game changer is for preventative. It's for horses that already have issues like arthritis. It's supposed to work similar to bute or previcox. It doesn't really have any good preventives for joints. You need ingredients like HA, glucosamine, chondrotin, & msm for prevention and maintenance. Bo's secret or align would be better choices.
I too got sucked in at a show. Align was on sale so I just had to buy it. I just started feeding it but thinking of going back to my Dac and selling the align to a friend. It's just not really what I need at the moment. |
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| Gamechanger does contain glucosamine and MSM, so it is a pain and inflammation product with joint preventive. |
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| Does Nitro give a little more "ummph"? A little more fire? |
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2017-04-14 11:46 PM
I don't think game changer is for preventative. It's for horses that already have issues like arthritis. It's supposed to work similar to bute or previcox. It doesn't really have any good preventives for joints. You need ingredients like HA, glucosamine, chondrotin, & msm for prevention and maintenance. Bo's secret or align would be better choices.
I too got sucked in at a show. Align was on sale so I just had to buy it. I just started feeding it but thinking of going back to my Dac and selling the align to a friend. It's just not really what I need at the moment.
So I messaged OE directly through their FB, I didn't have time to call so I figured they'd either answer or not and I could always call them later. My rep recommended Gamechanger for my girl, daily, for preventative measures and comfort because she's 15. No previous issues, easy keeper, never had to have the first injection. Literally the easiest keeper I've ever had except that I have to watch her grass intake or she will swell up overnight it seems. I told them I'd heard some mixed info on the product and although I trust my rep and know she's knowledgeable I wanted to make sure I was taking the correct route. I've heard Bo's makes a lot of horses hot and my girl does NOT need help in that area so I wanted to get my facts straight. Whoever answered was borderline annoyed that I suggested Gamechanger may not be for daily or preventative/maintenance purposes and was told, "WE DO NOT TRAIN OUR REPS ON THAT or to say GC is "too strong" for daily use! WHO IS YOUR REP?" I didn't get a whole lot of information, just told it's backed by a veterinarian facility and has case studies that were great and all but didn't really answer my questions.
I wouldn't say the person was rude but I wouldn't say they were super helpful or friendly either. Basically at one point they said go with Bo's then I asked if perhaps my rep suggested GC due to my mare's age and they said, "yes probably due to age!" I sent the thumbs up sticker that's the little automatic option in reply and the person sent it back to me.
So I still didn't get many answers, and I'm less than heartwarmed about that conversation. Just trying to understand the best options over here. Definitely felt uncomfortable having asked, after that convo. |
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Location: Lala Land | I had 2 horses on Bo's Secret for about 8 mos. No change in my horses, they get way more out of Adequan injections. We saw no improvement on muscle tone or joint function. Several 100 wasted. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Well it makes sense that they suggested the game changer since your horse is 15. I didn't realize it had the glucosamine and Msm in it since it's hard to find their ingredients list online and they don't market that point in the product description. I hadn't looked into it that hard once I saw the price. I'm sure it's a great product...And if I had a horse with more severe joint damage I might try it. However with a low maintenance horse that doesn't need injections or anti-inflammatories I just think there are better less expensive options.
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| So it's worth saying that probably because of this thread, OE reached out to me on FB and asked for my phone number to try to answer the questions more. Super nice guy, he explained the differences in Gamechanger, (which I'm going with due to my mares age), and Bo's Secret as far as ingredients and kind of the breakdown of how they work. The Bo's Secrect has HA as an active ingredient and will vary in effect from horse to horse obviously but can make some hot because of the vitamins, minerals, and HA dosage. The GC is made to help reduce/remove inflammation and put in glucosamine and MSA as well as having a bit of pain management and muscle building attributes. Of course I was at the barn when he called so this is a basic summary but I thought it was over and above of them to reach out and that cleared it up much more. Being that my horse is 15, and she's had a few years off I think the Gamechanger is for us, worth a shot for sure. I'll take before and afters and check back in a few months. I thought tha was pretty cool for a company to be watching and reach out to even one customer like that so I'm impressed with the customer service even if my horse doesn't respond to the supplement. |
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| OE has great customer service. They go over and above . |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Bo's secret also has molasses in it, which is probably what is making horses hot. Definitely not something I would use as a supplement.... |
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| JLBerry - 2017-04-19 4:43 PM
Bo's secret also has molasses in it, which is probably what is making horses hot. Definitely not something I would use as a supplement....
The gentleman that called me said it was due to the high amounts of vitamins and minerals and dosage of HA that stays higher than most supplements drop down to for maintenance because their studies have shown a horse needs at least 100 units consistently for it to be effective. Again, I wasn't taking notes lol, but that was his explanation for that and he said that it could definitely have that effect on certain horses. |
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Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | I have my mare on Align, Bo's Secret and now I'm starting Composed with it. She has really started firing harder again, I'm not sure if that's necessarily due to the supplements, feed (in general), vet work, or a combination of the above. For the last year or so she has not been firing, and now I feel like I'm finally getting my horse back |
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Location: The Land of OZ and TOTO! | We use the Align, Nitro and Wind currently. Horses all look great on the align and my daughters barrel horse is clocking better with the nitro and the wind. We are very happy with their products. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I would like to read the label of the Align. However I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a copy? |
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