BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-12-22 7:45 AM Hello Hello; As a paint horse owner you know how difficult it is to find a sire that can dominate the genes of the regular paint bloodlines to keep from having a flashback to the past. When you are looking to add speed and agility one must research what heavy duty bloodlines have been successful crossovers on paint bred mares. Here are two very successful full brothers to take a really hard look at : SIRE: PYC PAINTED WAGON .. proven paint producing sire DAM: SIRE: SF ROYAL QUICK FLASH AQHA AND: ..ROYAL QUICK FLASH APHA (when he was born AQHA and APHA rules were ... double registered required a name for AQHA and one for APHA) As you can see he is a full blooded AQHA CROP OUT but has the genes to be the most prolific sires of paint runners that is alive today and stands at Steele Farms, Ft. Gibson Okla 2nd dams sire: Is the famous sire TEXAS HERO another dominate sire in the APHA racing books ... PAINTED TURNPIKE (breeding farm yet to be determined) is the first paint Triple Crown winner in 2015 and ran his derby year in 2016 ... LTE: $229,000 which is tremendous for a racing paint ... he is a black bay paint bred solid colored paint .. GITTER DUN TURNPIKE LTE: < $100.000 Tobiano stallion stud farm: http://www.frontpageperformancehorses.com/htdocs/GITTERDUNTURNPIKE_... My first choice on these two brothers would be PAINTED TURNPIKE .. your mare has a soggy pedigree and needs all the help she can get to produce enough barrel speed to be competitive today .. My 2nd sire for your mare would be the double registered SF ROYAL QUICK FLASH // ROYAL QUICK FLASH .... HE has been in the top 3 paint sires every year since he entered stud duty .. and produces mostly solid bred paints. He stands for $1000 ... You have already researched my last choice CRM LIVEWIRE .. only time will tell if he has the gene structure to dominate the old paint lines .. So... believe my input that breeding speed into a paint horse requires a stout set of genes and a paint mare owner can't just flip the pages of a stallion list and pick one to crossover on their mare ... breeding paints is a tricky headache ... lol and as you have found ... finding information on anything from the APHA is almost impossible ... they are so busy with WP and HALTER horses and printing stupid magazines to take care of their horse business .. APHA is in serious management and financial trouble ... as of this year they dumped keeping track of racing paint records to SPEEDHORSE MAGAZINE and they are doing the best they can with the filtered and minimum data they get from APHA .... GRRRRRRR Warning ... as a breeder of barrel horses ... don't get crazy wanting a colored foal ... breed to the best even if he is a solid bred paint.. you are now looking for the best quality foal and not for color ... either way ... you only have a 50-50 chance of getting color even if every horse in the foals pedigree was a colored registry paint!! Call Nolan Pevehouse in Webbers Falls Okla to find the stud farm PAINTED TURNPIKE will be standing at and the stud fee on both of his stallions ... GITTER DUN TURNPIKE .. that is if you are interested in either stallion .. GOOD LUCK AND MERRY CHRISTMAS ..

ThreeCorners - 2016-12-22 7:26 AM


 I agree with this. You need to add speed and refinement and reach. You want to clean and lengthen the neck, clean and refine the head, and get some refinement, reach and balance to the body and maintain bone structure. http://files.speedhorse.com/20150201/HTML/files/assets/basic-html/page155.html
? http://www.paintracing.com/marketplace/sa/Sifford.pdf
I really like Easy Jet Too and the above horse is double E.J.T and physically he's alot of what I would look to improve in your mare.
http://www.paintracing.com/marketplace/sa/DosPoruno.pdf
 I also saw Country Quick Dash is $1000 and he has sired some nice horses.
? Look to your paint race sires is my advice.

BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-12-22 6:45 AM

Hello Hello; As a paint horse owner you know how difficult it is to find a sire
that can dominate the genes of the regular paint bloodlines to keep from
having a flashback to the past.

When you are looking to add speed and agility one must research what heavy
duty bloodlines have been successful crossovers on paint bred mares.

Here are two very successful full brothers to take a really hard look at :

SIRE:
PYC PAINTED WAGON .. proven paint producing sire

DAM:
SIRE: SF ROYAL QUICK FLASH AQHA
AND: ..ROYAL QUICK FLASH APHA
(when he was born AQHA and APHA rules were ... double registered
required a name for AQHA and one for APHA)
As you can see he is a full blooded AQHA CROP OUT but has the genes
to be the most prolific sires of paint runners that is alive today and
stands at Steele Farms, Ft. Gibson Okla

2nd dams sire:
Is the famous sire TEXAS HERO another dominate sire in the APHA
racing books ...

PAINTED TURNPIKE (breeding farm yet to be determined)
is the first paint Triple Crown winner in 2015 and ran
his derby year in 2016 ... LTE: $229,000 which is tremendous
for a racing paint ... he is a black bay paint bred solid colored paint ..

GITTER DUN TURNPIKE
LTE: < $100.000 Tobiano stallion
stud farm:
http://www.frontpageperformancehorses.com/htdocs/GITTERDUNTURNPIKE_...

My first choice on these two brothers would be PAINTED TURNPIKE ..
your mare has a soggy pedigree and needs all the help she can get
to produce enough barrel speed to be competitive today ..

My 2nd sire for your mare would be the double registered SF ROYAL QUICK
FLASH // ROYAL QUICK FLASH .... HE has been in the top 3 paint sires
every year since he entered stud duty .. and produces mostly solid bred paints.
He stands for $1000 ...

You have already researched my last choice CRM LIVEWIRE ..
only time will tell if he has the gene structure to dominate the
old paint lines ..

So... believe my input that breeding speed into a paint horse requires
a stout set of genes and a paint mare owner can't just flip the pages
of a stallion list and pick one to crossover on their mare ...
breeding paints is a tricky headache ... lol

and as you have found ... finding information on anything from the APHA
is almost impossible ... they are so busy with WP and HALTER horses
and printing stupid magazines to take care of their horse business ..
APHA is in serious management and financial trouble ...

as of this year they dumped keeping track of racing paint records to
SPEEDHORSE MAGAZINE and they are doing the best they can with
the filtered and minimum data they get from APHA .... GRRRRRRR

Warning ... as a breeder of barrel horses ... don't get crazy wanting
a colored foal ... breed to the best even if he is a solid bred paint..
you are now looking for the best quality foal and not for color ...
either way ... you only have a 50-50 chance of getting color even
if every horse in the foals pedigree was a colored registry paint!!

Call Nolan Pevehouse in Webbers Falls Okla to find the stud farm
PAINTED TURNPIKE will be standing at and the stud fee on both
of his stallions ... GITTER DUN TURNPIKE .. that is if you are
interested in either stallion ..
GOOD LUCK AND MERRY CHRISTMAS ..

GLP - 2016-12-22 10:11 AM

I would breed to Firewater Finale. I love how everyone says their babies are so good minded and trainable. With your health problems that would make me want to breed to such a stallion over speed and refinement, if you are looking for a horse that you can do anything on. If I were to ever have a mare I wanted a baby from, he is the stallion I want. I would want a horse to trail ride, work cattle and barrel race and possibly do Ranch classes. I believe for an older amateur rider his colts would be exactly what I was looking for. I sure hope you find something that helps your back. I love your posts on Ace, he is just a special boy for sure.

DashNDustem - 2016-12-22 1:50 PM

I love PFF!! He has got some NICE babies on the ground and I have heard they all are super smart and easy to train.

He is nice though, I would love a stud colt by him out of Chelsea's mare, Double Galatea :D

BarrelRacing4Christ - 2016-12-22 3:23 PM

I'm no help with suggestions. Just wanted to say your paint is cute! Loving the blue eye.

Serenity06 - 2016-12-22 5:21 PM

As of now Painted Turnpike's owners aren't sure if he will stand at stud for 2017 or continue racing.

BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-12-22 9:08 PM


I had a feeling that might be the case ..

With all the innuendo's that APHA has installed on solid colored paints it
would be tuff to get racing mares to him even with his racing record.
The guys ruining APHA are the same ones that killed the APPY Association
with crazy color rules.

His owners or any owner for that matter has a tuff time finding any races
written for paints over 3 years old. 3 basic types claiming, allowance and
handicaps are their choices but almost none written for a successful
race horse. The few they do write are for like: non winners, long distances,
invite only with nomination and gate fees applied...

Tx and Ok are your paint running states .. there are a few run in Wy, Mt, Id
areas as meets at fairs once a year and are again for your 2-3 year old.

Most of us that were breeding and racing paints have sold all of our paints
due to the fact APHA would change rules to go into affect immediately
and leave us with a pasture full of young paints with no where to go
with them and of course these constant flip flops on rules de valued our
babies so much they practically had no value ....

GOOD LUCK ... and don't assume you are going to get a 1D horse regardless who you breed to .. your mare is a solid looking girl .. but finding a stallion to
add all the things you want may take several years of extending her pedigree thru her daughters ... so breed for the best improvement on a baby ...
if you are happy ... I am happy ... lol

Nita - 2016-12-23 1:35 AM

I just wanted to add that your mare is really cute and I like how she's bred. I think you can't go wrong with any of the studs you're looking at. Can we see some pics of your HC baby??