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| What would make a horse cow kick in the middle of a run????
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| WiscoRacer - 2016-12-28 10:39 PM
Pain
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| mwilliams - 2016-12-28 10:56 PM
WiscoRacer - 2016-12-28 10:39 PM
Pain
Where??
That's a loaded question! Could be anywhere, hocks, stifles, SI joint... Someone might have a more specific experience in regards to cow kicking, I just know if it happens out of the blue and the horse is generally well mannered, it's probably pain. |
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| WiscoRacer - 2016-12-28 11:00 PM
mwilliams - 2016-12-28 10:56 PM
WiscoRacer - 2016-12-28 10:39 PM
Pain
Where??
That's a loaded question! Could be anywhere, hocks, stifles, SI joint... Someone might have a more specific experience in regards to cow kicking, I just know if it happens out of the blue and the horse is generally well mannered, it's probably pain.
He's only 5 . Never been on the track, I have owned him for almost 3 years. Has had an easy life lol He is OINERY! So hoping he is just being a turd....Has regular chiro work. |
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| They can hurt themselves out in the pasture or in their stall. Just because he's just 5 doesn't mean he can't be hurting. He temperament could be a symptom of pain- joint, muscle or ulcers. Take him to the vet for an exam. |
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| Just because he's five doesn't mean his hocks can't be full of arthritis or his spine might be kissing or his front feet aren't at the completely wrong angles or his teeth aren't growing needles into his face or his stifle doesn't have a lesion or his knee doesn't have a chip, or he doesn't have terrible ulcers or have EPM, or have a torn muscle or a suspensory strain. Or he could just be an @$$h0|€. Capiche? It could be anything.
Take him to the vet, a real performance vet! Don't train or tune or force him into anything until a true equine vet sees him for a full lameness/performance exam. If he comes up all clear, it's time for him to go to boot camp. |
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| I would have hocks checked and whorl bone. Both will make one cow kick. |
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| Mine did this as a 5 year old ended up having a small bone spur in the hock.. too small to remove but we injected one hock and it fixed the problem . |
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| I have a young horse that would randomly kick out during a lope. It felt like she was kicking at something. I gave her a little time to see if just getting more broke and developing strength and balance at a lope would resolve the issue. When it didn't I took her to a lameness vet. She flexed sore in one hock, and X-rays showed a small spur. It is so small that they didn't think it would be causing the kind of pain to make her kick out. We injected both hocks, and after a few rides it appears to have resolved the issue.
I understand that sometimes youngsters just need a little time to get over the nonsense, but at some point you have to decide if it's them being a youngster or if there's a pain issue. And age and amount of riding aren't always a good indicator of whether they might have a pain issue. Find a good lameness vet and have your horse gone over. |
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Location: IL | My friend had one that would do this, it was ulcers. |
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Location: North Dakota | mwilliams - 2016-12-28 11:10 PM He's only 5 . Never been on the track, I have owned him for almost 3 years. Has had an easy life lol He is OINERY! So hoping he is just being a turd....Has regular chiro work.
His age and history really doesn't matter.
I bought Red when he was 6 years old. Basically was a green broke fat spoiled pasture horse. After I got him going on the pattern (and just riding better in general), started having issues the following year. Took x-rays as a 7-year-old and he had a very advanced fusing hock. Specialty lameness vet said he probably had defects at birth for how advanced it was for his age.
Just becaase they've had an easy life, doesn't mean they can't still have problems. I would at least get a baseline lameness eval and go from there. Maybe he's being a turd .... but maybe not.
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Location: Texas | Pain... take him in for a vet check. |
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Location: sunny california | BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-12-29 12:00 AM WHY DOES HE HAVE REGULAR CHIRO WORK??
ditto to this. my vet says if the horse needs to see the chiro more than twice then he prolly has a flat tire |
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-12-29 2:00 AM
WHY DOES HE HAVE REGULAR CHIRO WORK??
Meant to say recent chiro. Has only been worked on twice his whole life :) |
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| I would suggest doing some investigating yourself. I know everyone pushes a full lameness exam but if it happened once and he is known to be a dink, I would check him out yourself a bit first. Only horse I knew that cow kicked during runs was a horse with fairly advanced kissing spine but he also cowkicked when she got on also.
Have you checked his back for soreness? If it continues, I would agree with a full lameness workup. I have also heard you can use aloe vera juice to sooth the stomach and if they get better, it usually means they have ulcers and you need to start treating. A friend of mine did this and it worked. |
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| stayceem - 2016-12-30 3:04 PM
I would suggest doing some investigating yourself. I know everyone pushes a full lameness exam but if it happened once and he is known to be a dink, I would check him out yourself a bit first. Only horse I knew that cow kicked during runs was a horse with fairly advanced kissing spine but he also cowkicked when she got on also.
Have you checked his back for soreness? If it continues, I would agree with a full lameness workup. I have also heard you can use aloe vera juice to sooth the stomach and if they get better, it usually means they have ulcers and you need to start treating. A friend of mine did this and it worked.
This is good advise as a place to start. Lounge the horse with a saddle. Does it kick out? Lounge then w/o a saddle, does it kick out. Is it only with the weight of the rider? Process of Illination sometimes. Good luck. |
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Location: sunny california | mine would do this when his stifle was sticky. put him in a round pen and ask him to pick up a lope and video him but focus on the hind legs. make sure you have him transition from trot to lope a few times in each direction. the catching is easy to see |
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Location: sunny california | almost forgot make sure the round pen is sandy and not hard. stifle sticking problems are easier to diagnose in deep sand |
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| kwanatha - 2016-12-31 9:38 AM mine would do this when his stifle was sticky. put him in a round pen and ask him to pick up a lope and video him but focus on the hind legs. make sure you have him transition from trot to lope a few times in each direction. the catching is easy to see
Same with mine. His started when he was 5 or 6. The vet had my farrier trim him different and I had to ride him to strengthen his stifles. |
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Cow Kick during a run??