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 Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | I have recently sold my barrel saddle, due to me outgrowing it :-(. I was thinking of getting a barrel/roping combo saddle next. I have always wanted to rope and would like the option to maybe play around with breakaway one day, and I am not really barrel racing much anymore but want the option to one day in the future. So thought a combo might be a fun option. I am mostly trailriding these days when i do get to ride.
So I was wondering if anyone else has the combo saddles?
any pros or cons, or recomendations?
Do any of forward hung stirrups??? |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | HorsesNHarleys - 2016-12-29 1:31 PM I have recently sold my barrel saddle, due to me outgrowing it :-(. I was thinking of getting a barrel/roping combo saddle next. I have always wanted to rope and would like the option to maybe play around with breakaway one day, and I am not really barrel racing much anymore but want the option to one day in the future. So thought a combo might be a fun option. I am mostly trailriding these days when i do get to ride.
So I was wondering if anyone else has the combo saddles?
any pros or cons, or recomendations?
Do any of forward hung stirrups???
If you going to just do breakaway, you can really use any saddle, I use to do breakaway roping in my barrel saddles. |
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Location: West Texas | There are ones out there that are good. For what you described, I think they would be ideal. They are pretty neat saddles to do anything in. |
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | Tdove - 2016-12-29 1:48 PM There are ones out there that are good. For what you described, I think they would be ideal. They are pretty neat saddles to do anything in.
Any in particular you like? |
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| I have an All Around saddle. I like it because it sits deep enough that I can run barrels in it but it is strong enough to head steers from it. It was custom made for me, but I am thinking about selling it because I don't rope anymore. |
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| I had one but didn't like it for barrel racing because the stirrup leathers were too stiff. I like a lot of movement and free'er swinging leathers. If all you were thinking about doing was breakaway I'd go for just a regular barrel saddle. |
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I just read the headlines
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| I loved my Betty Gayle Cooper all around saddle, but my son uses it now.
Absolutely loved my sister's Wanda Bush all around. She ran her mare in it because she also roped off that mare in the college rodeos. She also did a little tie down roping back in the day in that saddle.
I don't think they make either saddle anymore, but they were definitely my favorite saddles to ride in.
The closest I have found is my Meleta Brown saddle. |
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Location: West Texas | I am not really a martin fan, but their all around is pretty good. With any all around saddle, it will be a compromise one way or the other. You can breakaway rope in a barrel saddle, but no other type of roping obviously. However, if you are wanting to do much roping or just have a little stouter saddle the all arounds really are better, in that sense. You might even consider a small seated ranch cutter. If you are wanting something really nice, there are a bunch of handmade saddles that could be made any way you want, according to your needs and preference, or you may even find a used one. If you are looking for a reasonable shop saddle, one I would recommend is Jeys saddlery. They have a nice all around saddle and can customize it as well. http://www.jeyssaddlery.com/articles/view/girls-all-around-505b2ff1...
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Location: Phoenix | Tod Slone used to make a barrel/roper combo. I have one and love it. My mom won it and I stole it. The ladies tree is SO nice. I'm sure he could custom make one; I don't see them advertised on his site ever.... |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | I have a Circle Y Betty Gayle Cooper and it's a really nice saddle. First saddle I ever bought as a teenager. I've used it for many things, these days it's more of a trail saddle. I did run barrels in it and it works, but certainly not the same as a barrel saddle and now that I have some barrel saddles, I wouldn't use it for barrels. But if you think you are going to be doing more roping than barrels I would recommend it if you can find a good used one. |
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Location: North of where I want to be | I had a Martin AllAround that was perfect for roping and you could run barrels in it too. I olnly sold it as the seat was a full size too big for me but it was the single most comfortable saddle. I put a TON of trail miles on it too. |
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | Do any all arounds have foward hung stirrups?
Also I have seen these Corriente saddles latley that I thought looked pretty neat any experience with these? "Strip Down" styles
Or their Ranch Cutters
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| I was just going to suggest corrientesaddles.com! |
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Location: SE KS | I too am interested in an all around saddle!! However, I purchased one n didn't like it so I will
have to be a little pickier on the next one!!!
I purchased an NRS all around saddle, it was a nice saddle & fit the horse well, I just didn't like
how it fit me. (it could be bc of how the barrel saddles have nice deep seats too) I didn't feel like
the seat was deep enough, and the stirrup leathers were stiffer. Not sure what forward hung stirrups
feel like, but I felt the stirrups moved my feet farther forward than I liked.
I want to find someone local that has one so I can sit in some different ones before I buy another!!!
Would like to try a Courts All Around saddle, if I could find one!!
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I like the Sharon Camarillo combination saddles by Courts..
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Location: Phoenix | My Tod Slone does not have forward hung stirrups...at least I don't think so. They have a lot of movement towards the back so you can get your feet behind you a bit when roping. But they hang straight down and help you ride correct.
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| I've considered trying one. I had Infinity make my rope saddle a little lighter built, some because i have a short backed horse but some because I wanted to try running in it as well.
Love the way it rides in general but I'll echo the other comments about the stiff fenders. If we're at home I'll dink around in it if I'm just too lazy to swap saddles, but I wouldn't want to make a competition run in it.
I'll also say you won't likely find stirrups as forward hung as you do on barrel saddles. When you rope you want your feet good and under you, you want to be able to stand up when you throw. Forward hung stirrups put your feet out in front of you slightly and make getting off your butt more difficult, the difference between sitting properly in a chair with your feet in front of you and standing up, and straddling the chair with your feet on either side - standing up from the straddling position is a lot easier.
My opinion would also be that a barrel saddle with stirrups too forward hung would be tricky to breakaway out of, you'll have to do a lot more work to stay in a good roping position when things are moving very fast. |
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Location: Louisiana | I had a Billy Cook ladies all around in HS. Loved it.
I quit roping loooong ago and sold it to buy a barrel saddle.
I loved that saddle but only had one horse and no desire to swing a rope. |
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Location: West Texas | The biggest problem one will have roping in a barrel saddle would actually be getting your feet too far behind you. Most barrel saddles are small seated and the stirrups cant really be hung that far forward in a tight fitting saddle. Free swinging stirrups and a deeper barrel seat will let you get your legs more forward than in a roping saddle, but a combo saddle will not be that much difference, especially in a factory saddle. Barrel saddles are just not made for roping position and the light leather will make it harder to stay in roping position. A true shop made calf saddle will have a seat easy to get in the front and blocked, heavy stirrup leathers. Basically exactly what you don't want in a purpose built barrel saddle. So any combo will be some compromise of the two ideals, leaning more heavily to the barrel saddle side of the equation. With any saddle, quality of build is sure important. |
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| ^i agree in that if I tried to rope in my triple creek I'd be tipping forward or back just due to how free the stirrups are compared to my rope saddle, which is why I don't want to run barrels in my rope saddle, fenders are too heavily blocked.
The OP specifically asked about forward hung stirrups though, which I feel would make it harder to get off your butt to stand up and rope, at least in my experience with the super forward hung fenders.
But once you got stood up, yes i would agree you'd be prone to tipping.
I honestly think it's tough to find a good balance, you can't have the best of both worlds if you want very sport specific features like a forward hung stirrup in a barrel saddle, it's not going to translate over to roping well - in my opinion.
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Buttered Noodles Snacker
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Location: NC | Thanks for all the info. I hadn't thought about the posistion you need to be in to rope (probably because I never have before, LOL) but that makes sense. I just always like a barrel saddle with forward hung stirrups. |
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