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 Crazy Doggy Mommy
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Long story short a lady wants to lease my horse for her daughter the barrel race on. Which sounds awesome but how much do you charge? And do you ask them to pay insurance or something in case he's injured and can't race again god forbid? I'd really like to just sell him but she's been burnt before and more interested in a lease |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| Don't do it unless you have complete faith in them. I have let our trainer take 2 of our horses for her daughter and they had immaculate care and came back better than they left because they had the mom/trainer tuning on them. I think this is the exception though. I did not charge her because normally you pay 900/month for her services-it was a good deal for me too. Definitely have a written contract, require insurance but understand that there are situations where insurance will not cover your loss. I would require medical coverage as well as loss of use. IDK what you would charge, it depends on the value of the horse, maybe figure it as you would a car payment plus all maintenance etc.???
Edited by rodeomom3 2017-01-02 2:02 PM
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  Ms. Marine
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Location: Texas | I would never lease a horse. If you're wanting to sell the horse, why are you considering leasing him because an interested party has been burned in the past? I have a really hard time trusting people when it comes to situations like this and would be extremely reluctant to get involved. I'd much rather just have a clean sale and be done with it. |
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| Nopity nopity noooo. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would not least my horse to anybody. Why are they wanting to least your horse? |
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Extreme Veteran
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| Would it be an on sight lease? Those tend to work out better. As far as what to charge, it really depends on off sight or on sight, horses training level. If you really just want to sell offer to have her do an onsight lease for short period of time and see if it's the right fit for her daughter. If it would be a long term lease I wold have them pay the insurance.
Edited by SloRide 2017-01-02 4:19 PM
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 No Tune in a Bucket
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Location: Texas | Nope. Heard too many horror stories and not too many happy endings. Even with friends. |
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Crazy Doggy Mommy
Posts: 1419
Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | It would be off site. But the more I read the more I've decided leasing seems to dangerous. He's completely finished went to youth world last yr. he's fabulous but I can't risk him getting hurt. I've given myself a migraine stressing about this all day.
The lady suggested it and wants to meet him this week and said she's bringing her trailer. They live 3 hours away. I was shocked that she's so prepared to bring him home and I just was not expecting it |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | Nope don't do it.keep your horse and your sanity |
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Owner of a ratting catting machine
Posts: 2258
| Give me her number. I'll call and politely decline for you. |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Northwest | I guess it depends what kind of relationship you have with the person. I currently do a care lease on a horse BUT the owner is my mentor and friend, plus they only live two miles away and we ride together a lot so it's not like she doesn't know what is going on with him/how he is being taken care of.
If it was me leasing out a horse it would also have to be in my immediate vicinity and to someone I deeply trusted (not only to take good care of the horse but to step up and do the right thing if it were to be injured aka PAY the vet bills etc!) |
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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | Just.Say.No. |
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | No.. dont do it...................its not your fault shes been burned .. dont dont dont.. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FirstFirewater - 2017-01-02 5:10 PM It would be off site. But the more I read the more I've decided leasing seems to dangerous. He's completely finished went to youth world last yr. he's fabulous but I can't risk him getting hurt. I've given myself a migraine stressing about this all day.
The lady suggested it and wants to meet him this week and said she's bringing her trailer. They live 3 hours away. I was shocked that she's so prepared to bring him home and I just was not expecting it Boy shes in a hurry about the least thing, and being 3 hours away, I hope she dont push you into something that your having second thoughts about. You better hurry up and nip this in the bud befor it gets outa hand. Just tell her that you finally had the time to think about this leasting and you decided against it,, Or you can tell her your friend Roxie told you not to be leasting your boy out...
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2017-01-02 9:42 PM
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | I can think of only one person I would even let my horse STAY with, let alone lease one of them to. . . . |
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Crazy Doggy Mommy
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-02 9:26 PM FirstFirewater - 2017-01-02 5:10 PM It would be off site. But the more I read the more I've decided leasing seems to dangerous. He's completely finished went to youth world last yr. he's fabulous but I can't risk him getting hurt. I've given myself a migraine stressing about this all day.
The lady suggested it and wants to meet him this week and said she's bringing her trailer. They live 3 hours away. I was shocked that she's so prepared to bring him home and I just was not expecting it Boy shes in a hurry about the least thing, and being 3 hours away, I hope she dont push you into something that your having second thoughts about. You better hurry up and nip this in the bud befor it gets outa hand. Just tell her that you finally had the time to think about this leasting and you decided against it,, Or you can tell her your friend Roxie told you not to be leasting your boy out...
Yeah I was just so anxious about it that I gave myself a migraine and spent the rest of the night taking meds to have it gone at about 11pm . I am going to shoot her a message today and tell her that I just cannot lease him out for the fear of him getting hurt, but they are more than welcome to come try him and buy him. I feel like a failure for selling him, like I'm letting him down. Can you guys come fix my anxiety too?  |
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 Dog Resuce Agent
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Location: southeast Texas | Just say no, and don't give her any reason why. She could come back with a reason to lease. Just say No |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I have leased a few of my horses and it has never worked out well for me. They always come back broken in some way and I have to put them together. Never will I lease again. I even leased to a person who I was friends with thinking that would be better but it wasn't. If it isn't theirs they just don't take care of them the same. So when ever anyone asks I say no, for sale only. Everyone has been burned so I don't want to hear a sob story to try to convince me. Sorry for the rant just don't want the same thing to happen to anyone else. But if you do go through with the lease make sure they get insurance for the dollar amount you want, $10k medical, mortality and loss of use. My friend leased her horse out and the person said they had gotten insurance but didn't! The horse coliced went in for surgery then had to do a second surgery 24 hours later ended up getting stuck with the bill and a pasture ornament, so make sure you see proof they have insurance. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Cowgirl Kat - 2017-01-03 11:50 AM I have leased a few of my horses and it has never worked out well for me. They always come back broken in some way and I have to put them together. Never will I lease again. I even leased to a person who I was friends with thinking that would be better but it wasn't. If it isn't theirs they just don't take care of them the same. So when ever anyone asks I say no, for sale only. Everyone has been burned so I don't want to hear a sob story to try to convince me. Sorry for the rant just don't want the same thing to happen to anyone else. But if you do go through with the lease make sure they get insurance for the dollar amount you want, $10k medical, mortality and loss of use. My friend leased her horse out and the person said they had gotten insurance but didn't! The horse coliced went in for surgery then had to do a second surgery 24 hours later ended up getting stuck with the bill and a pasture ornament, so make sure you see proof they have insurance.
Yep, what she said. Plus, I don't like pushy people and this lady sounds pushy. |
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 Elite Veteran
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Location: Canada | I've had lots of on site leases work out great BUT that being said I'm able to watch the horse and can identify and fix any issues that may come up. I would personally would never do an offsite lease. There are so many risks involved.
If someone has been burned before that's unfortunate. I'd offer that they can come and try the horse a couple times and you'd be willing to provide any advice after the sale you can.
Good luck!
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Crazy Doggy Mommy
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I sent her a message this morning basically saying I could not in good conscious let him be leased off site but they could still come look at him to purchase and try him.... I got NO response |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Sunny So Cal | of course, so typical, why would they respond? It didn't go their way. It's funny how people will talk your ear off when they want something and then drop off the face of the earth if they don't/can't get it. Hopefully you can rest easy with no anxiety tonight. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FirstFirewater - 2017-01-03 4:32 PM I sent her a message this morning basically saying I could not in good conscious let him be leased off site but they could still come look at him to purchase and try him.... I got NO response
Good, Glad that you got this part over with, I was worried that she would guilt you into doing this least thing, sounded like she had it all figured out. Just stand your ground and it will work out for you |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Canada | FirstFirewater - 2017-01-03 4:32 PM
I sent her a message this morning basically saying I could not in good conscious let him be leased off site but they could still come look at him to purchase and try him.... I got NO response
I'm so glad you did this!!! Clearly they weren't in a position to buy and we're more interested in borrowing your horse.
I hope he finds a great home soon. |
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Crazy Doggy Mommy
Posts: 1419
Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Yep two days later and still no response. I slept like a baby last night without any anxiety. I will never understand pushy people who seem to have no problem pushing nice people like me around. Ugh I need to grow a back bone. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FirstFirewater - 2017-01-05 9:24 PM Yep two days later and still no response. I slept like a baby last night without any anxiety. I will never understand pushy people who seem to have no problem pushing nice people like me around. Ugh I need to grow a back bone.
Glad to hear that your sleeping better, its always better to nip it in the bud as soon as possible befor things get outa hand.. |
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Location: in the ozone | FirstFirewater - 2017-01-05 8:24 PM
Yep two days later and still no response. I slept like a baby last night without any anxiety. I will never understand pushy people who seem to have no problem pushing nice people like me around. Ugh I need to grow a back bone.
unfortunately there are people in this world that think they can just bulldoze over others & get their way! So glad you decided the way you did!  |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Bibliafarm - 2017-01-02 9:16 PM
No.. dont do it...................its not your fault shes been burned .. dont dont dont..
NO NO NO!!!! It simply is NEVER in YOUR best interest. Sorry for them, but it's not your job to put you and your nice horse at risk, just because THEY got burned...please do not do it. That's my advice....! |
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Leasing out your horse?