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| I have a colt that I will be sending out for training. I have to be honest with myself that I do NOT have the time to properly start and finish him for what he deserves. With that said I do want to be the one that starts him on the barrels and know that if he has the right foundation I will be able to have the time to finish him correctly. Besides barrel trainers what are your favorite types of training or reject horses from say cutting or reining that you have had in the past that you have found are the best training type disciplines? I do plan on having him be an all around horse, roping off of him and other various things, so I have been leaning towards reined cow horse, but I wanted to see what everyone else has had luck with in the past.
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| I often find myself liking the look of quarter horses started with a hunt seat background. My current barrel horse was actually going as a hunt seat horse, but was running bred. I found a grey cutting bred horse going as a hunter on Facebook the other day that I fell in love with the looks of. |
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| Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. |
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| I like mine to be roped on a little if possible before starting on the pattern.
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| Hello, thank you for taking the time to respond I really appreciate it. I agree I like mine to be roped off of and doing some other things before being started on the barrels. It seems like the more they have done or are able to do the easier it is to keep a good mind. |
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Location: Durango CO | I sent my started 2 year old to a reined cow horse trainer. She's doing so well! I get her back on 3 weeks. |
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| Working cow horse.
They're loping the pattern in a matter of hours when you get them back. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | magic gunsmoke - 2017-01-04 1:11 PM I often find myself liking the look of quarter horses started with a hunt seat background. My current barrel horse was actually going as a hunt seat horse, but was running bred. I found a grey cutting bred horse going as a hunter on Facebook the other day that I fell in love with the looks of.
This. Hunt seat and barrels are very similar. Soft contact. If you were to take a rider that can successfully compete in 2 events on the same horse in one day it would be HUS and barrels. The barrel rider is usually a bit too far forward a rider and hunter too upright, but it can be done.
Reiners often throw them the reins and ride with all legs and seat. It can take a bit for a horse to not over react when you pick up for a turn etc. They can't always keep forward motion when you ask them to ease off the throttle for a turn. But there are a lot of cowhorse rejects that make nice barrel horses.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Working cow horse or roping. I sent 2 to a cutting trainer for 6 months and hated both of them when they came back. They rode too good if that makes sense. To me nothing rides better than an old rope horse. |
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| Thank you everyone so much. This is all great feedback. I really appreciate it. |
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| Working cow horse. |
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| I think a lot can be said for a good colt starter who will get them going under saddle and then go to the pasture with them and ride fences, check cows, tie calves on them. I think these guys are becoming fewer and fewer, but a start like that puts a certain work ethic on them I think and teaches them to "figure it out".
Once they're under saddle I agree for initial training with working cow horse. We suspect that's where mine was started and he is broke as a joke, super super easy to start on the pattern. |
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| Thank you!! I agree on the getting them out and getting some rides on them. It is really hard to find people to do that it seems. My mom sent one of hers out to one that I would like to send mine out to also if he is still doing it. He put a lot of miles on and this horse came back so much nicer. I wish I was in a position to do it, I love long days riding!Getting them out of an arena and helping them just be a horse, long days, and something different can really make for a solid horse in the long run. The plan as of right now is to get him super broke then send him out for 30 days or so to be rode hard on a ranch and get some miles on him. |
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| Roping! or reiners! i still sometimes send my seasoned horses to a good roper or reiner! over the years ive really learned i LOVE a horse with a good mind. id pick a good minded 2d horse over a crazy 1d horse anyday! and i feel ropers and reiners really put the miles on them! they always come back so "mature" not to mention around around like a top! |
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| Loving all of this feedback! Thank you everyone so much. I come from a long line of ropers and do agree they make some nice horses :) |
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| Reined cow horse, reining, cutting...in order of preference. |
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Location: West Texas | All and all, is really isn't the type of trainer as it is the individual themselves. A broke horse with a nice handle is pretty universal. Reined cow horses types are generally the most functionally broke, in my lowly opinion. I have to disagree with ropers in general, but some guys can put a good handle on one. Cutters and reiners "can" be the same way. I am all for getting a horse outside, but it is not the end all by any means and the man or woman makes all the difference. Of course this is all generality, but there just aren't many guys working on one that will have time or skill to get them really broke and with a nice handle. Also, if I were sending one for that, I would expect to leave a minimum of 2 months and more like 4 would be best. You just don't get that overnight. Finally, you have to be aware of your knowledge and skill level when they come home. The better you are, the better the training will have worked in the long run.
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| I have to say reining and/or working cowhorse. My current Open horse was started by a reining trainer and stuck out to pasture for over a year. I got her when she was 5, put a couple refresher rides on her, and started her on the patterns (poles too). BY FAR the easiest horse I've ever patterned, and the most solid too. She was placing me in the 1/2d Open (local) and running 21s on poles within 3 months of starting the patterns.
Maybe I got lucky with the horse but I'm going to credit a lot of her skills to her foundation. |
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Location: WI | I would look for more of a reputable hand, than what the discipline is. There are plenty of reining trainers that will take any horse, but trust me - they spend their time on the reining bred prospects that are gonna make them look good, not on your barrel bred 2yo. |
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| Thank you everyone. Trust me I am going to be extremely picky about where he goes. I personally know several trainers in many different disciplines that do an extremely good job. I was more curious on what everyone's experiences have been as far as disciplines. The two I am leaning towards also do other disciplines and have horses they have trained doing well in working cow horse, reining, barrel racing, roping and other events. I know that the right trainer/person is more important than the discipline. Thank you again everyone. |
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Location: Central Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-01-04 3:46 PM magic gunsmoke - 2017-01-04 1:11 PM I often find myself liking the look of quarter horses started with a hunt seat background. My current barrel horse was actually going as a hunt seat horse, but was running bred. I found a grey cutting bred horse going as a hunter on Facebook the other day that I fell in love with the looks of. This. Hunt seat and barrels are very similar. Soft contact. If you were to take a rider that can successfully compete in 2 events on the same horse in one day it would be HUS and barrels. The barrel rider is usually a bit too far forward a rider and hunter too upright, but it can be done.
Reiners often throw them the reins and ride with all legs and seat. It can take a bit for a horse to not over react when you pick up for a turn etc. They can't always keep forward motion when you ask them to ease off the throttle for a turn. But there are a lot of cowhorse rejects that make nice barrel horses.
Gosh I'm having this issue with a mare I'm seasoning right now. She's reining trained...has done SHOT etc. Love her to death but if i just barely touch her with my hands in a run she sucks back and gives me nothing. Its possible and she's getting better...literally been running her at home in a halter. But takes a lot of time especially if they are insanely push style like my little mare. |
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What is your favorite type of training?