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Location: Southern Alabama | So, I am in the market for a new truck and trailer.... been looking pretty extensively. So.. I have finally found exactly what I am looking for(truck wise, that is)... however, instead of it being a diesel, it's a gas burner. What are your experience with this? Better fuel economy with a gas burner than diesel? Same amount of pulling power? Pros and cons here, please! |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Oops, guess I should have added that... Truck will be pulling a horse trailer... 2-3H GN. Not exactly sure on the trailer yet, since I am also buying a new one of those, too! Well, new to me, that is. Also will be hauling trailers with hay, etc. Truck is a 2006 GMC with a 6.0L V8 |
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Location: Nebraska | For me personally a gas burner was a better decision. I have a 3 horse bumper pull and only haul locally mostly in the summers. I wasn't putting that many miles on my diesel and it would sit during the week and most of the winter (unless there was snow). I have a car as my daily driver to work. I ended up with a 2004 ford f250 v10. I think I've put maybe 600 miles on it since I bought it in August lol. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | I will also add, this truck will be my daily driver. I live in Alabama, gas and diesel are pretty cheap, lol. Not really worried about a fuel/gas bill. But, needing something that can handle hauling and have plenty of power. I am in love with the truck... but, just don't know how I feel about a gas burner. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | i bought a 2012 GMC 2500 6.0 in july and have loved it. pulls my 3h great. gas mileage is about 12 loaded. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | GLP - 2017-01-12 9:29 AM I have a 2008 3/4 ton gas truck and my husband has a 2005 Dodge diesel. I will tell you I would much prefer hauling with the diesel - more power and better mileage. However, the maintenance and repairs are much higher with the diesel. Both vehicles have over 200,000 miles on them and both are still working wonderfully. We are diligent on maintenance.
I am very particular about maintenance, as well. However, my Dad is a diesel mechanic.... so, that helps, there. I am just a little skeptical to buy a gas burner and it not have all the power I need.... better to have more than less, right? But, this truck is exactly what I want, for a very good price. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | luluwhit - 2017-01-12 9:23 AM i bought a 2012 GMC 2500 6.0 in july and have loved it. pulls my 3h great. gas mileage is about 12 loaded.
That is reassuring. I am really leaning towards this truck. Has lower miles, clean Carfax, etc. But, I just don't want to be stuck without the power, if I need it. |
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GLP - 2017-01-12 9:29 AM I have a 2008 3/4 ton gas truck and my husband has a 2005 Dodge diesel. I will tell you I would much prefer hauling with the diesel - more power and better mileage. However, the maintenance and repairs are much higher with the diesel. Both vehicles have over 200,000 miles on them and both are still working wonderfully. We are diligent on maintenance.
I am very particular about maintenance, as well. However, my Dad is a diesel mechanic.... so, that helps, there. I am just a little skeptical to buy a gas burner and it not have all the power I need.... better to have more than less, right? But, this truck is exactly what I want, for a very good price.
Will you be driving in hill or mountains? If so, I would go with a diesel, but I have not driven the newer gas trucks. I will say, I doubt we ever get another diesel due to the high prices even used trucks are bringing. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | GLP - 2017-01-12 9:43 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:31 AM GLP - 2017-01-12 9:29 AM I have a 2008 3/4 ton gas truck and my husband has a 2005 Dodge diesel. I will tell you I would much prefer hauling with the diesel - more power and better mileage. However, the maintenance and repairs are much higher with the diesel. Both vehicles have over 200,000 miles on them and both are still working wonderfully. We are diligent on maintenance. I am very particular about maintenance, as well. However, my Dad is a diesel mechanic.... so, that helps, there. I am just a little skeptical to buy a gas burner and it not have all the power I need.... better to have more than less, right? But, this truck is exactly what I want, for a very good price. Will you be driving in hill or mountains? If so, I would go with a diesel, but I have not driven the newer gas trucks. I will say, I doubt we ever get another diesel due to the high prices even used trucks are bringing.
I live in Southern Alabama, near Dothan. Not really many mountains and such around here. Some hills, but not real big ones. So, no... it won't be going into the mountains, not hauling anything, that is. I have noticed, even used diesel trucks, the prices are outrageous(well, to me, that is. I'm kind of a tight wad with my hard earned money) |
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Location: Oklahoma | hands down a diesel. I will never own a gas truck as long as I'm pulling anything. My husband is a diesel mechanic, so it helps. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I had that same truck. The biggest problem I had with it was that the dang fuel tank was so small! I'd like to choke the engineer (or whoever) that put such a small fuel tank on a truck that could only get maybe 11 or 12 mpg. I could barely make the 200 mile mark before I needed to fuel up again. Maybe 220 to 250. And I drive like a maw-maw. Otherwise, it did have plenty of power. If I remember anything else about it, I will let you know. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-12 9:50 AM I had that same truck. The biggest problem I had with it was that the dang fuel tank was so small! I'd like to choke the engineer (or whoever) that put such a small fuel tank on a truck that could only get maybe 11 or 12 mpg. I could barely make the 200 mile mark before I needed to fuel up again. Maybe 220 to 250. And I drive like a maw-maw. Otherwise, it did have plenty of power. If I remember anything else about it, I will let you know.
I think it says it has an 18 gallon tank... which seems incredibly small to me, as well. This truck will be my daily driver so, that does make it very inconvenient. I will also add... this will be my first time owning a Chevrolet. I have always been a Ford girl. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.
My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.
I also live in a warm climate. Southern Alabama.... so, maybe I won't have an issue, there. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Ok, I'm remembering more. If the one you're looking at is four wheel drive, there is a common problem with the transfer case. There is a chain in there that eventually snaps and, when it goes, it slings around in there and damages the housing so that the whole thing needs replacing. It happened to mine, and I remember my mechanic telling me not to get a used one (like from pull-a-part if you have those by you) because it is a weakness on these trucks and chances are it would happen again soon unless I went with the brand new parts.
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Also truck stops are way easier to refuel at than cramming a trailer into a standard gas station LOL!
Watch the fuel tank size on the 3/4 ton diesels too though, our '07 duramax has a 26 gallon tank, a had an '08 for a while that only had a 20 gallon tank. It was obnoxious. We had to make sure we left enough time before we got to the rodeo to stop and get fuel, just in case all the stations were closed when we left after slack. My '08 3500 has a 36 gallon tank - hurts a lot to fill her up, but there's fewer station stops for sure. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-12 10:03 AM Ok, I'm remembering more. If the one you're looking at is four wheel drive, there is a common problem with the transfer case. There is a chain in there that eventually snaps and, when it goes, it slings around in there and damages the housing so that the whole thing needs replacing. It happened to mine, and I remember my mechanic telling me not to get abused one (like from pull-a-part if you have those by you) because it is a weakness on these trucks and chances are it would happen again soon unless I went with the brand new parts.
This one does not seem to have been abused. Very clean. Everything under the hood is immaculate. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | This is all super good information, folks! I am really leaning towards this truck... but, I will probably ask the people 1000000 questions and test drive it a few times, you know... the works. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM
Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.
My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained.
If it's a private seller, I'd start by offering them 8k or 9k and probably wouldn't pay over 10k. Go in person, complement them on how well they've taken care of it and make your offer respectfully. No kidding. If they've been trying to sell it for a while, that is a serious offer. Would be for this area, anyway. I think I got 6500 or 7000 for mine and it took me a looong time to sell it. I had a lot of people look at it and offer me 5k or 6k. It got a lot of attention from Mississippi and Alabama, if I'm remembering right. The market might be better in your area. JMHO 12k would be the dealership price. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-12 10:30 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough. My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained. If it's a private seller, I'd start by offering them 8k or 9k and probably wouldn't pay over 10k. Go in person, complement them on how well they've taken care of it and make your offer respectfully. No kidding. If they've been trying to sell it for a while, that is a serious offer. Would be for this area, anyway. I think I got 6500 or 7000 for mine and it took me a looong time to sell it. I had a lot of people look at it and offer me 5k or 6k. It got a lot of attention from Mississippi and Alabama, if I'm remembering right. The market might be better in your area. JMHO 12k would be the dealership price.
It is at a dealership. Seems it has been at the lot for a while. |
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Location: Kentucky | I'll be the turd in the punchbowl. If I'm going to be buying a truck, I want a diesel. You can always not need the power, but you can never add the power if it's not there. Same with 4x4. |
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| TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM
Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.
My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained.
Wow, that seems like a great price. No wonder you want it! |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Murphy - 2017-01-12 10:31 AM I'll be the turd in the punchbowl. If I'm going to be buying a truck, I want a diesel. You can always not need the power, but you can never add the power if it's not there. Same with 4x4.
That is how I am feeling right now. I mean.... I don't do a great deal of hauling... but, this truck will be used, if that makes any sense? I just don't want to need the power and it not be there. But... all of the nice diesels are out of my price range... I'm not really wanting to finance if I can help it. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | GLP - 2017-01-12 10:32 AM
TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM
Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.
My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained.
Wow, that seems like a great price. No wonder you want it!
Yep, you can make a great deal on a gas burner around here, too. Everybody is looking for the duramax, and the gas trucks are hard to sell. Or, so I found out when I was selling mine. As a buyer, you really have the upper hand because the seller has probably gotten a ton of low ball offers. I'm just speaking from experience. I think you can get that truck for a lot less than 12k. Unless you're just in love with the thing. If you ever try to sell, it will be a pain in the youknowwhat. I think a lot of kids that like to modify them for mud riding like the gas trucks and can get them cheap is probably why I got so many low offers. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-12 10:38 AM GLP - 2017-01-12 10:32 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough. My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained. Wow, that seems like a great price. No wonder you want it! Yep, you can make a great deal on a gas burner around here, too. Everybody is looking for the duramax, and the gas trucks are hard to sell. Or, so I found out when I was selling mine. As a buyer, you really have the upper hand because the seller has probably gotten a ton of low ball offers. I'm just speaking from experience. I think you can get that truck for a lot less than 12k. Unless you're just in love with the thing. If you ever try to sell, it will be a pain in the youknowwhat. I think a lot of kids that like to modify them for mud riding like the gas trucks and can get them cheap is probably why I got so many low offers.
I'm not head over heels in love with it... but, I do like the pretty sucker. I think I can probably get it for a lot less... you know the saying, cash talks. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 10:33 AM
Murphy - 2017-01-12 10:31 AM I'll be the turd in the punchbowl. If I'm going to be buying a truck, I want a diesel. You can always not need the power, but you can never add the power if it's not there. Same with 4x4.
That is how I am feeling right now. I mean.... I don't do a great deal of hauling... but, this truck will be used, if that makes any sense? I just don't want to need the power and it not be there. But... all of the nice diesels are out of my price range... I'm not really wanting to finance if I can help it.
The power will be there with that engine. I was looking at a bumper pull with LQ when I had the truck. If I'm remembering right, that trailer was 11 or 12k lbs., and the truck had no problem pulling it. The Chevy suspension was a problem, but that particular truck had airbags. I definitely needed them, so you will probably need to look at beefing up your suspension. Again, just personal opinion/experience, but GMC and Chevy are both very comfortable trucks for daily driving. I think it's because their suspension isn't as stiff. Every one I've seen (except the duallies) needed some help or they squatted really bad under a load. Cadillacs for your daily driving, tho! Love the ride in the Chevy & GMC's. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | With 80K miles, it is probably getting ready to have that transfer case problem, lol. When mine went, it just made a fluttering noise when I accelerated. The crack in the case was up high, so there was no fluid leakage, but you will want someone to crawl up under there and be sure there isn't a hole in the casing. If there is, it will probably spew out some fluid when you put it in four wheel drive, and you might smell something then. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Murphy - 2017-01-12 10:31 AM
I'll be the turd in the punchbowl. If I'm going to be buying a truck, I want a diesel. You can always not need the power, but you can never add the power if it's not there. Same with 4x4.
Yeah, I sold mine because a family member had a F250 7.3 that he finally got ready to sell, so I bought that instead. I love that truck. It has 350k miles on it and going strong. I know it has at least another 350k in it, too. I don't think I would have gotten that kind of life with a gas burner. But, she will have plenty of power with that truck she's looking at. If all the barrel races are within about thirty miles of her home, she will probably like the truck. Otherwise, she will be stopping for gas about once an hour with that small gas tank. Man, I hated that about that dang truck. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | This truck has a beefed up suspension... I think it has airbags and then heavy duty leaf springs. The farthest I haul really is about 2-3 hours from home. That's it. I don't have anything really running right now, so, no need to haul far. And, if it comes down to me really being on the road, I am sure I will sell it and buy a diesel. It is a 2500HD, just a gas burner. |
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| We’ve had a few Cummins Diesel 3500’s but a few years ago bought a new 6.4 Hemi 3500. It’s everything we wanted it to be with plenty of power. Pulls a 5H gooseneck no problem. When you start comparing fuel mileage with diesel owners, it’s always within about 2 mpg difference. That being said, it’s a low mileage vehicle. If we were on the road constantly, I’d be more apt to go for the diesel. But for what we use our truck for, the Hemi is a beast! Compared to Ford and Chevy gassers… the competition isn’t even worth mentioning. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | LabRat - 2017-01-12 11:47 AM We’ve had a few Cummins Diesel 3500’s but a few years ago bought a new 6.4 Hemi 3500. It’s everything we wanted it to be with plenty of power. Pulls a 5H gooseneck no problem. When you start comparing fuel mileage with diesel owners, it’s always within about 2 mpg difference. That being said, it’s a low mileage vehicle. If we were on the road constantly, I’d be more apt to go for the diesel. But for what we use our truck for, the Hemi is a beast! Compared to Ford and Chevy gassers… the competition isn’t even worth mentioning.
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Location: The edge of no where | I had a 2500 GMC '08 - I've never hated a truck like I despised that thing. I called it the gutless gas guzzler. I was so excited the day I got rid of it. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | MS2011 - 2017-01-12 3:24 PM I had a 2500 GMC '08 - I've never hated a truck like I despised that thing. I called it the gutless gas guzzler. I was so excited the day I got rid of it.
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Location: The edge of no where | TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:31 PM MS2011 - 2017-01-12 3:24 PM I had a 2500 GMC '08 - I've never hated a truck like I despised that thing. I called it the gutless gas guzzler. I was so excited the day I got rid of it. Was it THAT bad??
Worse! I've had Fords & Dodges and liked them all. I even had a 3500 Chevy gas in college..... I just hated this one truck. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | MS2011 - 2017-01-12 3:35 PM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:31 PM MS2011 - 2017-01-12 3:24 PM I had a 2500 GMC '08 - I've never hated a truck like I despised that thing. I called it the gutless gas guzzler. I was so excited the day I got rid of it. Was it THAT bad??
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:31 PM MS2011 - 2017-01-12 3:24 PM I had a 2500 GMC '08 - I've never hated a truck like I despised that thing. I called it the gutless gas guzzler. I was so excited the day I got rid of it. Was it THAT bad??
My '08 2500 Chevy has been a great truck until you have to fuel up. It is a guzzling son of a gun! You would think it had the 454 engine in it. I mean 8-9 gallons to the mile max when pulling a trailer. |
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Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | OhMax - 2017-01-12 3:50 PM 2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually). Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too.
I am definitely going to look for all the flaws and mechanical issues on this truck. This is a 2006 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0L V8 4x4 |
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My first truck was a 2001 Chevy 2500hd w a 6.0. Bought it with 90,000 miles sold it with 290,000 miles on it.
Bought a diesel last year but it just sat more than I used it. Sold it like a week ago LOL It's three times more expensive fixing a diesel than a gas truck, but if your dad is a diesel mechanic I'm sure that will help LOL
But in my honest opinion, unless you're planning on hauling every weekend... Stick with a gas
Especially a daily driver. Sure diesel will last longer but the maintenance cost to fix will be more. Also the fuel tank on the truck your looking at is very small, that would drive me nuts!
Just make sure you really fall in love with a truck and don't rush buying on! Something will pop up just take your time! :) good luck!!! |
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Location: NC | I had a 05 chevy 2500 6.0 gas truck. It drank fuel like it as going out of style lol.. it had no issue pulling my 2 horse fully loaded. Except the o2 sensor was going. I traded it for a 3500 diesel and wont go back. Both were/are my daily drivers |
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Location: Southern Alabama | I don't haul every weekend. My mare isn't finished so, we are just piddling around here at the house. And, Memphis isn't quite ready to ride like that, by himself. This truck will be my daily driver but, it will haul things quite a bit. My Dad does mechanic work, so, sometimes I have to haul a car trailer loaded. I really am leaning towards a gas. |
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| TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:52 PM
OhMax - 2017-01-12 3:50 PM 2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually). Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too.
I am definitely going to look for all the flaws and mechanical issues on this truck. This is a 2006 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0L V8 4x4
Gotcha - for some reason I saw 2006 and read 2008... |
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Location: Southern Alabama | OhMax - 2017-01-13 8:17 AM TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:52 PM OhMax - 2017-01-12 3:50 PM 2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually). Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too. I am definitely going to look for all the flaws and mechanical issues on this truck. This is a 2006 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0L V8 4x4 Gotcha - for some reason I saw 2006 and read 2008...
Oh no, it's fine. I like hearing the good, the bad and the ugly.... any kind of personal experiences. |
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| TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-13 7:45 AM
I don't haul every weekend. My mare isn't finished so, we are just piddling around here at the house. And, Memphis isn't quite ready to ride like that, by himself. This truck will be my daily driver but, it will haul things quite a bit. My Dad does mechanic work, so, sometimes I have to haul a car trailer loaded. I really am leaning towards a gas.
I think you'd be happier with a gas if you're going to use it as your daily driving pickup and for what else you said. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Get your dad to put an additional gas tank in the bed. They're more expensive than the auxiliary diesel tanks, you have to get one designed to carry gasoline. But, you are going to want one after driving it from one gas station to the next for a couple of months. It gets old fast. I looked for a larger replacement tank and couldn't find one that would replace the factory tank. |
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Location: Deep South | I live in AL also. Have had both gas and diesel for pulling horses. Will never buy another gas burner again. 2005 2500 Chevy 4x4 gas burner really struggles to maintain speed on the interstate pulling a 3-horse bumper pull when we have any kind of an incline. It's pathetic really.
Great for a daily driver, has been a great truck as far as no mechanical problems, etc. But the power is just not there.
Edited by BamaCanChaser 2017-01-13 9:12 AM
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Location: Big Blue Skies | If you are going to get a smaller trailer 2 horse or 3 horse I'd go with the gas. I had a 2 horse slant and I pulled that over all with my little gas truck. Got decent mileage and it was awesome. If you don't absolutely need the 3 horse go with a 2 horse. Your wallet will thank you and its so much easier to park, get gas etc. I've thought about buying a little 2 horse bumperpull when I just run around. |
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| A friend of mine has a truck similar to what you are describing. I hauled with it quite a few times, 1-3 horses with a standard gooseneck and had MORE than enough power. To the point where I caught myself going to fast because it pulled so smoothly. My friend hauls 4-5 horses in a stock trailer with it often. It has been from MN to NC, through the mountains without issues. She still has it but I bet it has a lot of miles. I know they have had to make repairs but for as heavy as they used it, I think it has held up pretty good.
We got a 2012 GMC and it was an oil hog, engine trouble right out of the gate. We sold it and now have a 2012 Chev Silverado. I pull 2-3 horses with it pretty easily. Not the most power in the world but nothing that concerns me. Again, I don't do long trecks typically but I did haul from MN to OK and back a couple times without issues.
I personally think Diesel's are nice but their upkeep his horrendous and they are inconvenient for those of us who live in the north. My thing is, I buy what I need.
I get good mpg and am happy with its power. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | BamaCanChaser - 2017-01-13 9:10 AM
I live in AL also. Have had both gas and diesel for pulling horses. Will never buy another gas burner again. 2005 2500 Chevy 4x4 gas burner really struggles to maintain speed on the interstate pulling a 3-horse bumper pull when we have any kind of an incline. It's pathetic really.
Great for a daily driver, has been a great truck as far as no mechanical problems, etc. But the power is just not there.
I think there's a pretty big difference between a 2500 and 2500HD. |
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| TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM
Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.
My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained.
Simple comparison ..
Gas engines
The torque and horse power are rated when engine is running over
4000-5000 rpm ... which means at hiway and town speeds it does
not have the takeoff nor the muscle to maintain speed ..
Torque is muscle that keeps truck running at speed even on an incline ..
Horse Power is the kick//takeoff that gets you to speed ..
So .. don't jump out in front of anything thinking you are going to get
to speed quickly and on an incline get used to making a run at the hill
10mph faster in order to be doing 50mph at the top ..
typically will run close to 3000rpm with a red line of 5700 rpm
so you are not using the best half of your gas engine ..
4x4 is your worst gas guzzler, least pulling power and will carry less
loaded weight ... they sit high off the ground and the wind pressure
means less mpg and to have the 4x4 the rear end is around 355 which is
not as strong as the 373 in a 2 wheel drive ...
The above is true in a diesel too ..
Diesel engine ... cummin's preferred ... the torque is at a low rpm
which gives more pulling power and will maintain speed at hiway
speeds .... 3000 rpm red line and 70mph on a 4x4 around 2200 rpm
horse power is more efficient due to the torque to get you to speed ..
still .. no speed contests when getting on a hiway .. you will lose ..
You gas unit is probably an automatic ... if it has the pulling something
button which uses the gear under over drive when pulling ...
USE IT WHEN PULLING OR YOU WILL BE BUYING A NEW TRANSMISSION
TRUST DAD'S ADVICE AND GO BUY THE TRUCK ... OFFER THEM 11K FOR IT
FOR NEW BRAKES, HOSES, BELTS AND GENERAL MAINTANCE ITEMS ...
MIGHT EVEN NEED NEW PLUGS AND WIRES VERY SHORTLY ...
OR PAY THE 12K and be happy .... since Dad can help on any repairs ..
A one owner clean truck is tuff to find .... with 8k/year on it ...
the newer the used truck is ... means someone is getting rid of a problem ..
Get Dad to take a quick eyeball and ear test on the truck and
make sure brake box is stiff enuff to feel the trailer brakes right
before you feel your truck brakes .. your Dad will know what I
am talking about ... lol ........ and everything will work out !!
GOOD LUCK ... SHOW US A PICTURE OF YOU AND YOUR NEW TRUCK
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Well?? Post pics of your new truck, if you decided to get it! |
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Location: Southern Alabama | Nita - 2017-01-15 3:58 AM Well?? Post pics of your new truck, if you decided to get it!
Haven't decided on it yet! Going to go next week and really look at it, because well... I am a little OCD, so I am taking my Dad and my husband. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Vickie - 2017-01-12 6:18 PM
Did anyone else see on the news today about Dodge Ram diesels cheating on emissions tests like VWs? What is going on with?
I knew this was coming! It's just the 1500 eco diesel. I just turned in my vw tdi last Monday. I had looked at the rams and wondered if they would be next. Its a bunch of crap....why can semis and heavy duty trucks emit the pollutions, but not a vehicle that gets better fuel mileage? My diesel could go over 200 more miles than the gas model. I'm sure they will disappear off the market and will go to court. Interesting and scary to see how this will affect a company that makes heavy duty trucks. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | TheDutchMan01 - 2017-01-15 11:28 AM Vickie - 2017-01-12 6:18 PM Did anyone else see on the news today about Dodge Ram diesels cheating on emissions tests like VWs? What is going on with? I knew this was coming! It's just the 1500 eco diesel. I just turned in my vw tdi last Monday. I had looked at the rams and wondered if they would be next. Its a bunch of crap....why can semis and heavy duty trucks emit the pollutions, but not a vehicle that gets better fuel mileage? My diesel could go over 200 more miles than the gas model. I'm sure they will disappear off the market and will go to court. Interesting and scary to see how this will affect a company that makes heavy duty trucks.
no it wasn't
The claims involving Dodge Ram pickups from 2007 through 2012 predate the first known sales of emissions-cheating vehicles by Volkswagen in 2009.
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