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My mare had to have a large part of her front hoof resectioned due to a sneaky case of white line. I have her on the biotin supplement my podiatry specialist vet recommends (can't recall the name of it, it's 100mg biotin and some other hoof stuff). She still grows so incredibly slowly. We've been dealing with this for 8 months now and she hasnt grown half of the initial resection back. Since she's missing most of her hoof wall, she's not permitted to be turned out. When it's dry, she has a small lot she can move around in. I have her on soaked alfalfa cubes, tons of a grass/lespedeza hay and Renew Gold. Free choice mineral and salt blocks. What's crazy is she has a strong, thick beautiful mane and tail. Nice winter coat and is otherwise so healthy. Teeth last done in September. Her hooves just do not grow. She barely has enough hoof to get reset after 8 weeks.
She has rocker shoes on both fronts (she previously had vertical cracks down the center of both hooves, hence the rocker shoes). And a pour in pad on the bad hoof.
I know things vary so much from horse to horse but gosh darn, I'd love to hear other people's experiences with poor hoof growth and what works for them.
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Location: Cold Tundra | I have seen great results from MVP Exceed 6-way by United Vet. It's all in one supplement that I have seen tremendous hoot growth with. PM me if you would like to try it, I can give you a discount code.
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| I know that excercise is incredibly important to good health and circulation. Is she getting plenty? Is she allowed to be worked?
I feed everything here two lbs or more of rice bran a day, I can't keep up with their feet. They're also getting as much native grass hay as they want, and Hay Rite at night in their stalls. Equipride.
I know when hooves become injured sometimes it can take forever to regenerate them. |
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| Can you look into a hoof boot so she can get out and move around more? Movement and getting the blood circulating in the hoof is very important to good growth.
I'll just throw it out there as well, we've seen more hoof growth on ours since pulling shoes. I would be curious if a glue on would work to allow for more hoof expansion and contraction?
We do have one who just grows slower than the others though. Great hoof quality and gets the same feeding program as the others, he could almost go twice as long between trims without being too horrendously long. |
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| Ask your vet about isoxsuprine. It is supposed to help with blood flow to the exremities. It helped with one of our horses, plus good food and strict shoeing schedule, but I didn't notice a thing with another horse. |
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Location: MN | Do you know someone with a Theraplate or Equivibe? Id look into getting her on one of those a couple times a week. Ive also heard that PHT bell boots work well too. |
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| Thanks guys!
My vet is pretty set on only hand walking or turn out in small areas. She's worried about her tearing the sensitive laminae since she doesn't have support.
I'll ask her tomorrow about isox or anything else we can do for circulation! I thought about PHT/Magnacu bells, but I just can't imagine that they actually increase circulation through the thick hoof? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | morequestions - 2017-01-19 12:26 PM Thanks guys! My vet is pretty set on only hand walking or turn out in small areas. She's worried about her tearing the sensitive laminae since she doesn't have support. I'll ask her tomorrow about isox or anything else we can do for circulation! I thought about PHT/Magnacu bells, but I just can't imagine that they actually increase circulation through the thick hoof? I love my PHT bell boots, they were a big part of helping my horse that grass founder this past spring they do increase the blood circulation in the hooves, they really speeded up the healing process.. And helped his hooves to grow out a little faster I was really please with the PHT bell boots..
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Location: Not where I should be... | Have you had your hay analyzed? Some horses are extra sensistive to excess sugars in their feed. Also, check the iron content of your mineral. Too much iron from the hay can also interfere with hoof growth. Excess iron blocks the absorption of vital hoof growth minerals like magnesium, zinc and copper. Any upset of the balance of nutrients can inhibit the growth of a well connected hoof wall. I have been amazed at the better growth and decrease in white line I have seen in my horse since switching mineral suppliments.
To read more:
http://www.hoofrehab.com/Diet.html
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Location: Southern Indiana | I heard an old trick is to feed powdered milk. The guy that told me about it fed it to one that had a section of its hoof cut out and he said it helped it to grow out a lot faster. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Lots of the old timers in the race horse business use gelatine for growing out hooves.. I was going to use it on my horse but the pht bell boots were really helping out so did'nt |
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| OE Hoof Evolution, I have a horse who is just getting over the worst case of White line you can imagine, between anti fungal paste and the OE Hoof Evolution 5 months later he is ready to start back to work this week.
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Location: The Great Northwest | The Perfect Horse supplement has promoted hoof growth in my horses and others I know. Also, VetTech has a substance that will adhear to the hoof and can be nailed through. It holds a shoe and can be filled just like hoof. I know several who used this so they could go ahead and ride while waiting for the hoof to grow. |
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| Horses can take anywhere from 12-18 months to grow a complete foot.
I had a horse slough off both front feet, I have the hoof wall to prove it.
The vet started soaking her foot in 0.5 percent iodine to harden up the lamania, and she was turned out on pasture while she grew her foot back, never had any problems during that time. |
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Location: TX | I recommend trying Horseshoers Secret EXTRA STRENGTH Hoof and Connective Tissue support. It was a new product from Farnam back in 2015. It comes in 7.5lb buckets and 3.75lb bags. It is incredible. It supports new hoof growth, keeps the integrity of the hoof strong, while also supporting tendons and ligaments so essentially almost everything from the knee and hock down is supported. It comes in an "extruded nugget" so it is better digested and absorbed by the body AND it has pre/and probiotics in it to maintain a healthy gut. It was formulated by a PHd Nutritionist. Full disclosure I work for the company but I also use this product and have had fantastic results on my 5 year old whom I barrel race. I have many colleagues who have used it and every bit of feedback i have gotten has been positive whether it has been a need for hoof growth, support, strength etc. |
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| Protein is the nutrient that is important for growth and repair. I would suggest a horse feed, not a sweet feed, that is 14 % protein. I feed pellets. It take nearly a year for a hoof o grow completely new tissue.
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Edited to add that horses' feet do not grow as fast in cold weather.
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Location: NE Texas | Poor hoof condition could be due to the the stomach not utilizing what you're feeding due to leaky gut or lack of nutrients in the diet. I keep my horses on the Cur-Ost products and a whole grain/herb program with high quality alfalfa hay and my horses feet grow like crazy and are solid. I too take the Cur-Ost products myself and have to cut my fingernails once a week because they grow so fast. Get the stomach right and diet right and the rest will follow. |
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Location: Arizona | As far as hoof supplements go, I really like Horse Tech products (and am very fond of their free shipping policy). Glanzen 3 is a good one for promoting hoof & hair growth. Focus HF by Source is another one that I've had excellent results with, & it won't break the bank. Biotin is good stuff, but I do feel like 100 mg daily is a bit overkill... & maybe a waste of money? Especially if you are seeing so little results in 8 months. In my experience, 15-30 mg daily has been plenty (I think Focus HF only has 10, & still promoted loads of growth in the horses I've used it on). I definitely agree with checking out the protein content in your overall feed program, hoof walls can't be grown well if they are lacking in amino acids. Pay particular attention to the limiting amino acids (Tri Amino & similar supplements are good for bringing these up to par, if needed), & you can even consider feeding something like gelatin, which is made up of the amino acid building blocks for collagen. As someone mentioned, take a good look at the mineral content in her feed & supplements as well, imbalances there (whether too much or too little) can slow hoof growth. I would suggest having a conversation with your vet & farrier about trying out some good hoof boots or possibly casting her front feet. I really like casts for growing out hoof wall problems, & promoting sole growth. It will offer the support to hold things together, but still allow enough mobility to stimulate new growth. You can still use pour-in pads with them as well. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | dmc62901 - 2017-01-19 8:05 PM I recommend trying Horseshoers Secret EXTRA STRENGTH Hoof and Connective Tissue support. It was a new product from Farnam back in 2015. It comes in 7.5lb buckets and 3.75lb bags. It is incredible. It supports new hoof growth, keeps the integrity of the hoof strong, while also supporting tendons and ligaments so essentially almost everything from the knee and hock down is supported. It comes in an "extruded nugget" so it is better digested and absorbed by the body AND it has pre/and probiotics in it to maintain a healthy gut. It was formulated by a PHd Nutritionist. Full disclosure I work for the company but I also use this product and have had fantastic results on my 5 year old whom I barrel race. I have many colleagues who have used it and every bit of feedback i have gotten has been positive whether it has been a need for hoof growth, support, strength etc.
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Location: Willows, CA | As someone mentioned above, you need quality protein, proper minerals and a fully functioning hind gut. Lysine,methionine and zinc will promote the best growth. A proper functioning hind gut will produce all the biotin that a horse can use. Some additional alfalfa should help your diet. There is no fast way to grow hoof wall. |
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Location: MT | Haven't read all the responses, so not sure if someone else has mentioned it. Hoof growth will slow down during the winter, that may be part of it as well.
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Location: Southern Alabama | TheDutchMan01 - 2017-01-19 12:54 PM I heard an old trick is to feed powdered milk. The guy that told me about it fed it to one that had a section of its hoof cut out and he said it helped it to grow out a lot faster.
And, it really works. Calf milk replacer is a Godsend, in my opinion. I had a mare that had awful feet. So, I started putting powdered milk replacer in her feed, along with one pack of Jello 2x daily. After about 3 months... I couldn't keep up with her feet. |
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hooves wont grow