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What drills do you have beginners your giving lessons to work on?
Due to weather we have a small area indoors to work around one barrel maybe two right now.
She really just needs basic riding skills. We have been working on making big circles and small circles and then going back out again.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | runfastturnsmooth - 2017-01-30 10:06 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
Soooooo ready set go
Oh so shes not a beginner on horses.. Then teach her to ride sloppy lol.. Just kidding, All the people that I know that ride english are so correct in their riding. To me they need to try to be more relax in their riding if going to western riding.. |
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Location: Idaho | runfastturnsmooth - 2017-01-31 8:06 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
Soooooo ready set go
A western saddle shouldn't make a difference, it is actually a lot easier to transition from an English to western saddle than vice versa. When you ride English, you always need to have short stirrups and often ride in the 2 point position. My old trainer used to yell at me all the time because I would "ride like a hunter" and not a barrel racer lol. Unfortunately there are things you can't ever undo.. such as heels down, toes up. I still do that, even when I am running a pattern you can see in my pics are heels down, toes up in my turns lol Unfortunately I lost a lot of my strength in my calves, in English you always have to ride with a closed legs. My English trainer would always put a dollar in between the horse and my calf to make sure I was holding on with my legs, if the dollar was still there.. I'd be able to keep it.
Teach her to ride with longer legs and to sit square in her saddle. Teach her that in barrel racing, constant direct contact with the horse's mouth is not always necessary. Generally leg cues are the same. You want to teach her the BASICS of barrel racing before you start throwing her around some barrels and working drills. She needs to understand what you are asking her to do rather than going around three barrels and home. According to CJ there are 15-20 cues that happen between horse and rider in one single barrel pattern. You need to be able to give her those tools so she can put together a good pattern.
Charmayne James has an excellent book that has a good guideline as to what constitutes that you are ready to start working a pattern.
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | DashNDustem - 2017-01-30 8:29 AM
runfastturnsmooth - 2017-01-31 8:06 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
Soooooo ready set go
A western saddle shouldn't make a difference, it is actually a lot easier to transition from an English to western saddle than vice versa. When you ride English, you always need to have short stirrups and often ride in the 2 point position. My old trainer used to yell at me all the time because I would "ride like a hunter" and not a barrel racer lol. Unfortunately there are things you can't ever undo.. such as heels down, toes up. I still do that, even when I am running a pattern you can see in my pics are heels down, toes up in my turns lol Unfortunately I lost a lot of my strength in my calves, in English you always have to ride with a closed legs. My English trainer would always put a dollar in between the horse and my calf to make sure I was holding on with my legs, if the dollar was still there.. I'd be able to keep it.
Teach her to ride with longer legs and to sit square in her saddle. Teach her that in barrel racing, constant direct contact with the horse's mouth is not always necessary. Generally leg cues are the same. You want to teach her the BASICS of barrel racing before you start throwing her around some barrels and working drills. She needs to understand what you are asking her to do rather than going around three barrels and home. According to CJ there are 15-20 cues that happen between horse and rider in one single barrel pattern. You need to be able to give her those tools so she can put together a good pattern.
Charmayne James has an excellent book that has a good guideline as to what constitutes that you are ready to start working a pattern.
I think this is funny. My first few years of riding were English. I still ride 2 point position. Toes up, heels down. Can't be undone. But I don't think it's a bad thing. However, it makes for some interesting barrel photos with such proper body positioning. |
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Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
Soooooo ready set go
A western saddle shouldn't make a difference, it is actually a lot easier to transition from an English to western saddle than vice versa. When you ride English, you always need to have short stirrups and often ride in the 2 point position. My old trainer used to yell at me all the time because I would "ride like a hunter" and not a barrel racer lol. Unfortunately there are things you can't ever undo.. such as heels down, toes up. I still do that, even when I am running a pattern you can see in my pics are heels down, toes up in my turns lol Unfortunately I lost a lot of my strength in my calves, in English you always have to ride with a closed legs. My English trainer would always put a dollar in between the horse and my calf to make sure I was holding on with my legs, if the dollar was still there.. I'd be able to keep it.
Teach her to ride with longer legs and to sit square in her saddle. Teach her that in barrel racing, constant direct contact with the horse's mouth is not always necessary. Generally leg cues are the same. You want to teach her the BASICS of barrel racing before you start throwing her around some barrels and working drills. She needs to understand what you are asking her to do rather than going around three barrels and home. According to CJ there are 15-20 cues that happen between horse and rider in one single barrel pattern. You need to be able to give her those tools so she can put together a good pattern.
Charmayne James has an excellent book that has a good guideline as to what constitutes that you are ready to start working a pattern.
Okay a little more info.
We have walked the pattern multiple times, drawn out chalk lines, went over leg and rein cues. She's loped through a few times.
Mainly looking for things we can do to help her feel more comfortable and was really looking for drills pretty much for lessons.
And ready set go! Also I want my toes up and my heels down thats just basic riding position ? *scratches head*
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Location: Idaho | runfastturnsmooth - 2017-01-31 8:39 AM
DashNDustem - 2017-01-30 10:29 AM
runfastturnsmooth - 2017-01-31 8:06 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
Soooooo ready set go
A western saddle shouldn't make a difference, it is actually a lot easier to transition from an English to western saddle than vice versa. When you ride English, you always need to have short stirrups and often ride in the 2 point position. My old trainer used to yell at me all the time because I would "ride like a hunter" and not a barrel racer lol. Unfortunately there are things you can't ever undo.. such as heels down, toes up. I still do that, even when I am running a pattern you can see in my pics are heels down, toes up in my turns lol Unfortunately I lost a lot of my strength in my calves, in English you always have to ride with a closed legs. My English trainer would always put a dollar in between the horse and my calf to make sure I was holding on with my legs, if the dollar was still there.. I'd be able to keep it.
Teach her to ride with longer legs and to sit square in her saddle. Teach her that in barrel racing, constant direct contact with the horse's mouth is not always necessary. Generally leg cues are the same. You want to teach her the BASICS of barrel racing before you start throwing her around some barrels and working drills. She needs to understand what you are asking her to do rather than going around three barrels and home. According to CJ there are 15-20 cues that happen between horse and rider in one single barrel pattern. You need to be able to give her those tools so she can put together a good pattern.
Charmayne James has an excellent book that has a good guideline as to what constitutes that you are ready to start working a pattern.
Okay a little more info.
We have walked the pattern multiple times, drawn out chalk lines, went over leg and rein cues. She's loped through a few times.
Mainly looking for things we can do to help her feel more comfortable and was really looking for drills pretty much for lessons.
And ready set go! Also I want my toes up and my heels down thats just basic riding position ? *scratches head*
So.. what does she need help getting comfortable with, exactly?
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Location: Idaho | ~BINGO~ - 2017-01-31 8:38 AM
DashNDustem - 2017-01-30 8:29 AM
runfastturnsmooth - 2017-01-31 8:06 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-01-30 10:05 AM
Balance, riding without stirrups..
I'd agree but this lady is coming from saddlebreds and standard breeds and actually has a seat but nothing with speed and needs used to a western saddle.
Soooooo ready set go
A western saddle shouldn't make a difference, it is actually a lot easier to transition from an English to western saddle than vice versa. When you ride English, you always need to have short stirrups and often ride in the 2 point position. My old trainer used to yell at me all the time because I would "ride like a hunter" and not a barrel racer lol. Unfortunately there are things you can't ever undo.. such as heels down, toes up. I still do that, even when I am running a pattern you can see in my pics are heels down, toes up in my turns lol Unfortunately I lost a lot of my strength in my calves, in English you always have to ride with a closed legs. My English trainer would always put a dollar in between the horse and my calf to make sure I was holding on with my legs, if the dollar was still there.. I'd be able to keep it.
Teach her to ride with longer legs and to sit square in her saddle. Teach her that in barrel racing, constant direct contact with the horse's mouth is not always necessary. Generally leg cues are the same. You want to teach her the BASICS of barrel racing before you start throwing her around some barrels and working drills. She needs to understand what you are asking her to do rather than going around three barrels and home. According to CJ there are 15-20 cues that happen between horse and rider in one single barrel pattern. You need to be able to give her those tools so she can put together a good pattern.
Charmayne James has an excellent book that has a good guideline as to what constitutes that you are ready to start working a pattern.
I think this is funny. My first few years of riding were English. I still ride 2 point position. Toes up, heels down. Can't be undone. But I don't think it's a bad thing. However, it makes for some interesting barrel photos with such proper body positioning.
Sometimes if I have to ride two handed, I'll go into that English style/2 point position. It's been well over 15 years since I jumped.. but it never goes away! and you're right about those pics!! lol |
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Lessons for a beginner...What do you do?