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| Quick backstory: Horse injured herself on high tensile fencing in April 2016, cutting her cannon bone down to the bone. Stitches and antibiotics were done immediately. Then in August the mostly healed wound broke wide open again. There was nothing that could be stitched, so we did another round of antibiotics and things were looking good until November 2016 when the wound broke back open AGAIN. Had the vet out to do xrays to make sure there was no bone chip or anything else that might be trying to work its way out and causing the wound to break open periodically. We didn't find anything. Fast forward to Wednesday this week and the wound has broken open yet again. Each time is slightly less dramatic, but I am very frustrated. It has almost been a year and I am still having to keep her leg wrapped daily.
Vet suggested possible skin graph, but that is pretty expensive as she would have to go to our local vet university to have it done.
Products I have tried so far:
Granulex
Blu-Kote
Neuosporin
Wonder Dust (which seems to work the best so far)
Manuka Honey (didn't work at all)
Just leaving it alone
Any other last ditch products I could maybe try before going the vet route? Things are made slightly more complicated by the fact that she has PSSM so can't be kept on stall rest and has to be kept moving somewhat every day. |
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Location: My own little world :) | I had a mare cut her leg pretty well a few years back. I will try to attach a photo. It has taken years for it to heal and is still somewhat in the process. It took about a year for it to completely close but the scar still seems like it is working together and getting smaller and shedding scar tissue if that makes sense?
I wrapped the leg daily. When it was really bad and open I wrapped it in the evening and let it air out during the day and hosed it out before I applied the bandage. I used Silver Lining's wound powder and mixed it up with some Young Living essential oils and a triple antibiotic ointment that was otc...basically horse neosporin. I think this combination really helped.
The other thing I did was wrap the leg with my PHT wraps. Sometimes I would even just put every PHT item I had on the mare and let her stand for an hour with it on or leave her in a stall with all of it on for a day. I really think this helped. I would also use BOT sometimes also. People told me that her hock would never heal properly and that the joint would always be larger than the other one but now she only has a slightly visible scar.
I think if you have any or can get your hands on some PHT magnets or BOT quick wraps you should try it. And my little wound concoction seemed effective as well. Good Luck! I know how frustrating it is!!!
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| Wow, that was a gnarly injury.
I've been thinking about the BoT wraps, but I wasn't sure if they would really help a wound heal or not, and they are rather pricey. After a year of wrapping and washing my current Cashel leg wraps are about out of life though.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | That wound needs to start healing from the inside first, sounds like to me your just working on the outside of the wound.I would be useing something like Tri-Care and Vetericym get the med deep into the cut/wound. And make sure you got this horse on a good healthy diet, its makes a world of difference if they are feed right for helping themselves heal. |
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| I had a mare cut her front leg even partially cut her tendon. Her prognosis was not very positive. I wrapped it and changed the wrap every 2 days per my vet but I also called Platinum Performance since it made by a vet. They told me to give her 6 scoops a day. She was rideable in 6 months and the vet couldn't believe how quick she healed. I believe the PP helped her heal from the inside out. |
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| Here is one I have that is taking forever to close up. It looked terrible but she didn't damage any thing real important other than she does have lymphatic system damage and it is staying big. If I keep a magnetic hock wrap on it does much better but it warmed up here finally and I noticed she was getting some rub marks so have left it open a while. I have used several things on it all with about the same results. I was just told by a vet to just try some a,d,e cream on it so will give that a go. This happened July 1 st and last picture was about Dec 1. I have been fighting the cold so I used some silver spray as it wouldn't freeze before I got ready to use it. It did seem to do good on it. I know her feet needed done she is a broodie that was just turned out when it happened .
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Location: Arkansas | cutnrunqhmt - 2017-02-12 7:42 PM
Here is one I have that is taking forever to close up. It looked terrible but she didn't damage any thing real important other than she does have lymphatic system damage and it is staying big. If I keep a magnetic hock wrap on it does much better but it warmed up here finally and I noticed she was getting some rub marks so have left it open a while. I have used several things on it all with about the same results. I was just told by a vet to just try some a,d,e cream on it so will give that a go. This happened July 1 st and last picture was about Dec 1. I have been fighting the cold so I used some silver spray as it wouldn't freeze before I got ready to use it. It did seem to do good on it. I know her feet needed done she is a broodie that was just turned out when it happened .
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| I have high tensile poly covered wire which has always been pretty safe and not real sure why she ended up in the fence but the tensioner is what cut her. It scared me to death when I saw it, I called the vet and told him he was probably going to have to put her down but she could walk just fine. It still looks terrible and very large but hopefully I can get some progress again now that it isnt' below zero everyday.
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| cutnrunqhmt - 2017-02-12 7:42 PM
Here is one I have that is taking forever to close up. It looked terrible but she didn't damage any thing real important other than she does have lymphatic system damage and it is staying big. If I keep a magnetic hock wrap on it does much better but it warmed up here finally and I noticed she was getting some rub marks so have left it open a while. I have used several things on it all with about the same results. I was just told by a vet to just try some a,d,e cream on it so will give that a go. This happened July 1 st and last picture was about Dec 1. I have been fighting the cold so I used some silver spray as it wouldn't freeze before I got ready to use it. It did seem to do good on it. I know her feet needed done she is a broodie that was just turned out when it happened .
Holy sh..... 
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| SG. - 2017-02-12 1:01 PM
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| Im gonna tell you, I have seen some pretty bad stuff from wire cuts. I had a mare last year cut the bulb of her foot off and I don't even know how, but it took forever to heal and I tried everything. I tried underwoods, Nukote (don't think I spelled that right) and all kinds of other stuff and I always go back to the same stuff. First off, wash it every day. And I agree with an above poster, make sure your horses nutrition is good! But I use Neosporin or something similar for an ointment, then I used wonder dust to cover that, and then Alu shield to cover that. It make this waterproof cover that dirt doesn't stick to as bad and flies leave it alone. However, since we didn't see a picture, it does sound like you may need to be wrapping it every day, and Alu shield doesn't work in that case, I just go with the first 3 steps, followed by some sort of wrap, and I take it off every day and wash it and reapply everything. Sorry you are having to go through this, the continual breaking open is mysterious and it does sound like some type of infection is staying in there somehow, so hope you can figure it out soon. Prayers for healing! |
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| Finally got pictures taken this morning. It is hard to really see anything between her leg being stained by Blu-Kote and now stained by Wonder Dust. I did order some Dermagel as I could get it 2-day shipped to me on Amazon.
The little piece on top is a scab that started to come off, but I didn't want to rip it the rest of the way off and risk getting kicked.  |
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| draftmare - 2017-02-13 6:03 AM
cutnrunqhmt - 2017-02-12 7:42 PM
Here is one I have that is taking forever to close up. It looked terrible but she didn't damage any thing real important other than she does have lymphatic system damage and it is staying big. If I keep a magnetic hock wrap on it does much better but it warmed up here finally and I noticed she was getting some rub marks so have left it open a while. I have used several things on it all with about the same results. I was just told by a vet to just try some a,d,e cream on it so will give that a go. This happened July 1 st and last picture was about Dec 1. I have been fighting the cold so I used some silver spray as it wouldn't freeze before I got ready to use it. It did seem to do good on it. I know her feet needed done she is a broodie that was just turned out when it happened .
Holy sh.....
I think I would have died if mine was that bad!!!
I had already had such a bad year with the horses that when I saw her I just knew we would be putting her down. Once I saw her walk I was more hopeful and somehow she didn't damage the joint either. I just hope it will close up this year. |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | I healed up a mare with a leg wound to the bone as well. I consulted with Dr. Jolly and he was awesome, he specializes in wounds like this. Mine healed up in a few months and I finally quit wrapping it after about 3 months and it did heal up with a small scar. I used the quick derm product to heal her up. |
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Location: Idaho | Underwood's horse medicine! Knew a mare who fell out of a trailer going 60 mph on a freeway. She had holes galore, road rash, proud flesh everywhere. Underwood's did wonders, a year later you couldn't even tell she fell out of that trailer. All of her wounds were closed with hair grown back. |
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Location: Durango CO | DashNDustem - 2017-02-13 1:44 PM
Underwood's horse medicine! Knew a mare who fell out of a trailer going 60 mph on a freeway. She had holes galore, road rash, proud flesh everywhere. Underwood's did wonders, a year later you couldn't even tell she fell out of that trailer. All of her wounds were closed with hair grown back.
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Location: Arkansas | cutnrunqhmt - 2017-02-12 10:17 PM
I have high tensile poly covered wire which has always been pretty safe and not real sure why she ended up in the fence but the tensioner is what cut her. It scared me to death when I saw it, I called the vet and told him he was probably going to have to put her down but she could walk just fine. It still looks terrible and very large but hopefully I can get some progress again now that it isnt' below zero everyday.
I would have been scared too, Lord have mercy. Glad she's doing better.
Everyone with their pictures and stories are making me thankful for (only) the small boo boos we have.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | DashNDustem - 2017-02-13 2:44 PM Underwood's horse medicine! Knew a mare who fell out of a trailer going 60 mph on a freeway. She had holes galore, road rash, proud flesh everywhere. Underwood's did wonders, a year later you couldn't even tell she fell out of that trailer. All of her wounds were closed with hair grown back.
Wow, how did something like this happen?
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| Consulted with vet again, and they want to do another set of xrays to see if there is anything in there that might have been missed the first time around. Ugh.
She is now on individual turnout and doing hand walking in the evenings, also started using Dermagel. I have heard good things about Underwoods, but the Dermagel was able to get here faster so I will give it a try first. |
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| Is there proud flesh that she keeps bumping and that is what breaks it open? Just a thought.
Last summer my mare cut her head open right between the tip of her head and her ear. It was about an inch, inch and half long and wasn't to deep. I probably would have had the vet try to stitch it, but my mom didn't tell me about it until the next day so it was to late. It abcessed behind her other ear, and just would not heal, so after 3 rounds of pennicillin I took her to the vet, and she had chipped her skull when she cut it, but it wasn't cut where the chips were! It was really weird and we are lucky she didn't kill herself. We had to wait until she was over 100 days bred and she had surgery, doesn't even have a scar now.
I would have an xray done to make sure something didn't get missed.
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Location: North Dakota | I can't see the pics-for whatever reason....anyway, with hard to close wounds sometimes I think we don't let the body do enough. I like furacin (eek-says the masses) but you can use triple antibiotic ointment-basically something to keep the wound moist. I start with 15 minutes cold hosing and then a warm water scrub-with either iodine or nolvasan scrub-until the wound starts to weep blood and all the scabs are gone (at least 90% of them) dry the wound place a heavy layer of furacin-a non stick pad(s) then a no bows wrap or two depending on the size of the wound and then either polos (if they stay on) or vet wrap-leave that on for at least 2-3 days-I want that wound to stink when I open it-for the first few weeks-then repeat the cold hose-scrub process-there will be a time where the wound will not have so much "gunk" on it and you will be able to cold hose and scrub lightly but always put the oinment on the wound and wrap-until just putting the ointment on keeps the edges soft and pliable. I have healed up some ugly stuff like that-both at the vet clinic I worked for and at home-these things are hands on type situations and take a lot of work-but it's amazing how much they will heal up. |
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