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| I am so devastated... So on saturday morning, I got a phone call from my boarding guy...and he said that my horse was dead. My 5 year old mare, Athena, had collapsed and died instantly. She was leaning up against the fence, so it looked like it was something was quick and painless at least. But, we have no idea how this happened! I am still in shock...it doesn't even seem real yet, shes just so young...I don't know what could have happened. My boyfriend and boarding owner both looked her over well well and said she had absolutely no injuries of any kind. The only thing they noticed was some blood coming out of her nose. I just feel so so guilty...I always feed Purina products, specifically Omelene 200. The other day, the feed store was out of it...and they had a new kind of Nutrena, I think fuel force XTN. I bought 2 bags of it to try...I'm not saying that it was for sure the feed...but that was the only change I had made with her. Also, both of my horses had eaten the feed for two days before she died. My gelding does not seem effected, normal temp and acting good. I did not have blood drawn, as the cost was going to be 900 dollars. So I just threw out all the hay and grain. She could have just had a heart attack I guess...I am just trying to place blame though...I feel so guilty, I just have no clue what happened to her. She was so young and healthy! I would have never seen this coming...I've never had a horse just pass away like this. I'm completely devastated. So not saying it was the feed, but just in case...I advise to be careful with the Nutrena XTN, I don't want to see anymore accidents.
Also, I had my boyfriend cut off a piece of mane and tail, as I have all my horses that have passed. What do you guys do with the hair? Do you frame in a picture, make jewelry, pottery? Thanks so much! |
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Location: SW North Dakota | Sorry to hear about your mare!
I'd recommend Dakota Bones, LTD for pottery memories. She can do anything you can imagine! She has a FB page for her business. |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Highly unlikely a feed change caused that quick of an issue. Hugs!
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | I am so sorry. I had a horse die like this many years ago. Found him dead in his paddock in the morning with some blood dried on his nose. The vet suspected an aneurysm at the time. |
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| Hugs for you. Don't beat yourself up over this. |
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| I am so sorry this happened. However, I don't think it's fair to point a finger at the feed, if you didn't have it tested. It does sound more like an aneurism or possibly a heart attack. I am sorry this happened to you and your horse. |
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| Hugs, I am so sorry. I doubt it was the feed since you have fed it for 2 days, you would have seem symptoms of stomach upset/signs of colic. Sounds like she made have had a stroke or aneurysm. |
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Location: SE KS | Very sorry |
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| Can you get a necropsy done on your horse?
I had one that died quite fast, I knew something was wrong loaded him up and hauled to a vet, he died in the trailer.
Vet refused to complete a necropsy, forged some federal documents and sent him on the meat wagon. This was 15 years ago I still have no clue on why he died, and am still left questioning.
Vet did loose his license due to the forged documents. |
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Location: CTX | I am so sorry for your loss. Especially at that age you don't expect it at all.
When I had to let my old girl go last year I had a statue made and they burned her hair into it.
She did a great job of capturing my baby.
http://www.myhorseart.com/index.php?p=1_13_HORSE-STATUE-GALLERY
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Location: Montana | My grandpa, many years ago, had his cousin ride his pony while he was away and the horse just fell over and died instantly, they believe it was a heart attack that killed her. Then a few years later he had a horse that was ill with pneumonia for a week and then just died. Then they have another that they believe was poisoned (possibly by something in a field, possibly by someone intentionally poisoning the horse, they never found out, but to their knowledge no one had reason to poison said horse so they found it highly unlikely that someone would do such a thing) that was alive one day and dead the next, so it does happen, unfortunately.
Here's another example...I used to have pet birds...and a lot of them! I had a lovebird, one day, just fall off her perch, flutter around for a few seconds and die. No symptoms, not anything, and it was believed to be a heart attack that killed her. Its the unfortunate part of life.
I'm sorry for your loss, though, its always hard. |
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| Thank you all for your kind words, I'm very lucky to have all you guys that care so much <3 I really love the statue idea, beautiful! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2017-02-13 2:37 PM I am so sorry for your loss. Especially at that age you don't expect it at all.
When I had to let my old girl go last year I had a statue made and they burned her hair into it.
She did a great job of capturing my baby.
http://www.myhorseart.com/index.php?p=1_13_HORSE-STATUE-GALLERY
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | So sorry for your lost Katielovestbs  |
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| Do what you want with the information on this thread: http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=474223&start=1&highlight=ionophores+Nutrena&highlightmode=2. It very well could be feed toxicity. If you can I would have a necropsy done so you know. At the very least - you might send in the feed for toxicity testing, specific to ionophores. And I am so sorry for the loss of your horse. :(
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| I lost a 2yr old last June I was outside with him an hour prior went inside and ate dinner when I came back out he was gone . It looked like he just fell over in his tracks although he had sweated a fair amount but no signs of a struggle. Our vet said possible heart attach but didn't believe that was the case, electricity can do it as well but usually no signs of pain. He though ours was a perforated ulcer due to the fact he was bloated so badly and so quickly. He tried to get out and post him but got to busy to make it. I was devastated and still can't believe he is gone. I am so sorry for your loss it is hard to have something like this happen. |
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Location: Ft Worth TX | I had a mare do the same thing. all she had was blood out of her nose- HEart Valve Rupture is what was concluded |
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Location: Arkansas | I am so sorry about your mare. I can only imagine---but like someone said, please don't beat yourself up over this. You wouldn't have hurt her for the world. . . Terrible things happen that are beyond our control---sending prayers and hugs for you.
The statue is amazing and truly looks like your beautiful baby. |
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| I am so, so very sorry for your loss! Terrible! Big hugs from Kansas. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | brlraceaddict - 2017-02-13 4:41 PM Do what you want with the information on this thread: http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=474223&start=1&highlight=ionophores+Nutrena&highlightmode=2. It very well could be feed toxicity. If you can I would have a necropsy done so you know. At the very least - you might send in the feed for toxicity testing, specific to ionophores. And I am so sorry for the loss of your horse. :( She fed the same feed to another horse without issue. Let's not panic. With the blood in the nose, it sounds like an anuerysm.
To the OP: Hugs and love. I'm sorry for your sudden loss. Hold tightly to the memories.
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Oh I am so sorry for your loss.  |
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| Without an autopsy it is impossible to say. With blood coming out of the nose sure sounds like an aneurism. Horses are really very fragile animals. So sorry for your loss. |
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Location: Florida.. | brlraceaddict - 2017-02-13 5:41 PM Do what you want with the information on this thread: http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=474223&start=1&highlight=ionophores+Nutrena&highlightmode=2. It very well could be feed toxicity. If you can I would have a necropsy done so you know. At the very least - you might send in the feed for toxicity testing, specific to ionophores. And I am so sorry for the loss of your horse. :( sounds like a heart attack or brain bleed.. im sorry this happened..! feed toxicity doesnt just happen overnight ..(it hit my good friends eventing barn).... 2 days of the new feed and not affect her other horse its highly unlikely.. it happens with symptoms and slowly..and didnt affect her other horse..
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | So very sprry for your loss <3 |
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| CanCan - 2017-02-14 5:15 AM brlraceaddict - 2017-02-13 4:41 PM Do what you want with the information on this thread: http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=474223&start=1&highlight=ionophores+Nutrena&highlightmode=2. It very well could be feed toxicity. If you can I would have a necropsy done so you know. At the very least - you might send in the feed for toxicity testing, specific to ionophores. And I am so sorry for the loss of your horse. :( She fed the same feed to another horse without issue. Let's not panic. With the blood in the nose, it sounds like an anuerysm.
To the OP: Hugs and love. I'm sorry for your sudden loss. Hold tightly to the memories.
Not all horses have the same reactions to ionophores - some never show symptoms, some show colic-like symptoms, etc. I agree that it may not be feed related but having your feed tested is a pretty cheap way to get an answer for that piece of the puzzle. |
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Location: West Texas | I too am sorry for such a loss. I also agree that it was likely heart attack related. Probably nothing anyone could have done as things like that can sometimes happen. |
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Location: In a happy place | I am so sorry for your loss. I just know you are devastated. I wouldn't think it could be the feed. I would think it had to do with her heart. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I'm so sorry for your loss.
Hugs and prayers.
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| streakysox - 2017-02-14 8:03 PM
Without an autopsy it is impossible to say. With blood coming out of the nose sure sounds like an aneurism. Horses are really very fragile animals. So sorry for your loss.
Could also be anthrax |
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You and your horse are in my thoughts and prayers.
It was reported to be Nutrena feed that caused the deaths at the NBHA world show last year. Too many incidents have occurred with toxic feeds, thank you for sharing this.
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Location: OH. IO | I'm very sorry for your loss :( |
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| cheryl makofka - 2017-02-15 3:14 PM
streakysox - 2017-02-14 8:03 PM
Without an autopsy it is impossible to say. With blood coming out of the nose sure sounds like an aneurism. Horses are really very fragile animals. So sorry for your loss.
Could also be anthrax
You are correct.
Anthrax is very common. |
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| Thank you SO much to everyone for the replies. I can't tell you how nice it is to have so many caring comments to read <3 I'm so thankful to have you guys help me get through this. It really helps just talking to everyone here, because you have all shared in this feeling. Thanks so much for all the love! You guys are the best <3
I actually moved my gelding to a new and nicer boarding facility. No more pasture board for now. He has his own stall, gets turned out in a sand arena, and has many new friends! They have an outdoor and indoor arena.and he is just SO happy here. I have been able to ride everyday, rain or shine. This change and riding more has been very good for our hearts. Thanks again everyone, lots of love |
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