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      Location: Oklahoma | i have tried Plexus, Advocare, Ziga, Zeal, etc..... But has anyone used anything from GNC, WM,WG etc. that has worked? If so, please share! | |
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    Location: Deep South | I replaced my lunch with these protein shakes last year and lost 15-20 pounds.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Six-Star-Pro-Nutrition-Fit-French-Vanilla...
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| I've tried them all too. The only thing that has made a lasting difference is watching my sugar intake, trying to make healthier choices, and getting myself to the gym every morning. It was HARD at first, but my body adjusted to waking up earlier, and I have SO much energy throughout the day now. Its way cheaper than all the products, and I've even made some fitness friends along the way! | |
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| No program over the counter is going to do a darn bit of good because you aren't going to do it for the rest of your life.
Weight Watchers is a program that can work. It teaches you how to eat healthy, encourages you to exercise, but is not required, and is a lifestyle change.
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       Location: North Dakota | Canchsr_99 - 2017-02-24 11:19 AM i have tried Plexus, Advocare, Ziga, Zeal, etc..... But has anyone used anything from GNC, WM,WG etc. that has worked? If so, please share!
You've "tried"?
I don't mean that to be snarky (truly, I don't), but if you want to lose weight, it's all about making lifestyle changes. There isn't a drink or a pill or a supplement or any other "quick fix" that is going to work. You have to make a committment to taking better care of your body.
1) EAT CLEAN. Really ... eat clean. Any packaged food you eat will be more processed, more junk added, not clean. Anything you add to food with condiments will not be "clean". Eating healthy and eating clean is hard work and time consuming and it takes planning. It also take a lot of education. Portion control is also key. As Americans, we are so used to (for example) eating an entire plate full of noodles, when you really should only have a small cup size. Eventhing is "super-sized". Your body doesn't need that much.
2) EXERCISE. It is plain healthy for your body to get some exercise; not even including the weight control benefit. You want to do a combination of strengthening and cardio because both are important.
And that's it. It's truly simple. But very hard at the same time.
Trust me. I enjoy french fries and ice cream and desserts and pizza as much as anyone.
If I were to recommend any type of "plan" I would recommend the 21-Day Fix, simply because it teaches you portion control and how to eat clean in a pretty easy format.
Teach yourself how to eat better and live healthier and make a committment to change your lifestyle. THAT is what works. Long-term lifestyle changes.
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| r_beau - 2017-02-24 11:36 AM
Canchsr_99 - 2017-02-24 11:19 AM i have tried Plexus, Advocare, Ziga, Zeal, etc..... But has anyone used anything from GNC, WM,WG etc. that has worked? If so, please share!
You've "tried"?
I don't mean that to be snarky (truly, I don't), but if you want to lose weight, it's all about making lifestyle changes. There isn't a drink or a pill or a supplement or any other "quick fix" that is going to work. You have to make a committment to taking better care of your body.
1) EAT CLEAN. Really ... eat clean. Any packaged food you eat will be more processed, more junk added, not clean. Anything you add to food with condiments will not be "clean". Eating healthy and eating clean is hard work and time consuming and it takes planning. It also take a lot of education. Portion control is also key. As Americans, we are so used to (for example) eating an entire plate full of noodles, when you really should only have a small cup size. Eventhing is "super-sized". Your body doesn't need that much.
2) EXERCISE. It is plain healthy for your body to get some exercise; not even including the weight control benefit. You want to do a combination of strengthening and cardio because both are important.
And that's it. It's truly simple. But very hard at the same time.
Trust me. I enjoy french fries and ice cream and desserts and pizza as much as anyone.
If I were to recommend any type of "plan" I would recommend the 21-Day Fix, simply because it teaches you portion control and how to eat clean in a pretty easy format.
Teach yourself how to eat better and live healthier and make a committment to change your lifestyle. THAT is what works. Long-term lifestyle changes.
Completely agree with 21 day fix. It is eye opening what a true portion really is compared to what is served and advertised everywhere AND having a balanced diet. Before learning better habits from 21 day fix I was all about eating heavy on the carbs (come on they are delicious... pasta, bread, rice, all of it!) my portions were way off and I would probably go days without having a vegetable. Now I have a foundation with much better habits with clean eating, correct portion sizes and making sure I have a balanced diet. I still enjoy treats but in moderation and I don't let my treat turn into a week or month long binge :) | |
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| Have you had your blood tested for any abnormalities? Just got mine done and I was very low in Vitamin D, which is linked to not being able to lose weight. I was told to take D3 2000 IU once a day, but I also take B12 and Super Green Tea pills (250mg) , which is just a pill form of the tea and they give me a lot of energy to go ahead and work out. Eat a bunch of fruit, and probiotics can do you a world of good (yogurt or Yokult).
Just aim to do 30 minutes of exercise to start, I take my horses for walks everyday before I ride as a warm up for them but also me, so I do 15 minutes of handwalking x2 (2 horses). Then go for hikes, watch some youtube videos on working out etc.
I have heard thermogenics can work, but hard to say. If you need a boost (even though B12, green tea pills should help you) look into pre workouts...but when you take it, you need to go work out or else you're gonna feel really hyper for a while.
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       Location: ~Kansas~ | I've tired it all.. changed my whole lifestyle before with eating less.. eating better etc..
The only thing that has helped me lose weight successful is Xyngular products and their healthy lifestyle plan.
Make sure your bloodwork is normal and nothing is out of whack as well.
They have a great shake that taste good so I have that for breakfast everday with low carb high protein meals the rest of the day.
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| 1DSoon - 2017-02-27 7:07 AM Meth typically works
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        Location: the end of the rainbow | 1DSoon - 2017-02-27 5:07 AM
Meth typically works
I work in the court system. I have seen some overweight meth addicts. However even the ones that are overweight usually have terrible skin, bad teeth and horrible BO. I see that whole "meth makes you skinny" as a horrible myth perpetrated by people who think they are gonna get skinny before they lose their teeth & get nasty scars on their face. But if you want to test it out 1DSoon please be sure to take before and after pictures for us.
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| 1DSoon - 2017-02-27 5:07 AM
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This is true!!! I get an appetite pill from my doctor and he told me its only a few molecules different than meth. lol Or maybe it was speed, can't remember, but it sure as H_______ works!!!! I have to leave post it notes reminding me to eat.. | |
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   Location: Cocoa, Florida | 1DSoon - 2017-02-27 7:07 AM
Meth typically works
I was gonna say crack but if you want to loose your teeth too meth will work better lol, don't smoke weed I hear it gives you the munchies
Weight loss is not as hard as people think it is, it doesn't take rocket science to figure out what's good and what's bad for you, I believe it's more like Mind over Matter. You can do anything you put your mind to. I would say diet is 90% of it, I do cross fit (or was until I had slight cardiac issues) and am VERY active, surfing, riding, softball, cross fit, the gym.... my problem is I don't diet (I am now again becAuse I can't work out) but even doing the intense cross fit work outs I never lost weight at all u less I dieted, PALEO is a great high protein diet to follow. I will say I was very very toned and strong from working out but I stored muscle over fat because I still ate like crap.
If you can change your diet and the way you eat that's most important for weight loss, if you can incorporate working out with it that's even better, but don't expect a miracle the first month, it takes time but you will feel better guaranteed.
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | I bought Garcinia Cambogia from GNC as well as a 14 day cleanse, and it jump started my metabolism. I used the GC for about three months and used the cleanse how it instructs on the bottle and after that three months I forgot to buy more. I haven't used it since. I eat pretty healthy but I would always over eat or eat when I was bored, etc. but now I eat every two hours and get full after about a palm sized portion of whatever I find available. I keep grilled chicken and homade green beans in the fridge at work to reheat and eat throughout the day. I also keep a bag of salad (Kale, cabbage, and fresh greens with fat free sugar free honey mustard dressing and homade soup I've frozen at the office to snack on. Soup is easy to make healthy if you use the right ingredients. Plus you can make lots to freeze and eat on. I keep a little bit of fruit available at the office like frozen grapes and apples and also make homade almond milk to go with my cereal in the mornings. You would be surprised how easy it is to make. (I eat the completely full of sugar Captain Crunch with my healthy almond milk and refuse to give that sugary treat up LOL.) My littlest one is allergic to anything dairy so I've completely cut it out of my life so she doesn't have to have a different meal than what we eat at home. I replaced my butter with dairy free smart balance and I can't tell the difference in my recipes that call for butter. I hear it's healthy. Who knows. LOL I also drink 120+ ounces of water daily and like to mix cucumber and lemon in occassionally. I really think this is what helps me the most. Aside from pills and magic potions. Water keeps me full and I can put flavorful fruit in it if I want. It sounds like a lot I know but it's easy if you have access to cold water all day. I drink water easier when it's cold. I use my RTIC Cup and since it's almost 30 ounces without ice I have 3 cups full of water before lunch, one after lunch, and then one on the way home. I usually cut back after that so I'm not up in the middle of the night going to the restroom. But I will have water with dinner. I stop eating 2 hours before bed and usually go to bed hungry. Water is great for your body and metabolism. 
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | What's with these "cleansers"? How does that work? Do they detoxify?
Speaking of detoxification and cleansers, can anyone name the substances that are cleansed, or the toxins that are removed? It's a cool sounding idea. I'm sure I have some toxic stuff in my body, but what is it? | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Is anyone familiar with the fable, "Stone Soup"?
Some of these diet regimens remind me of that story. They convince you that some herbal potient will burn fat, detoxify, and cleanse. They say it works even better if you supplement the potient with a diet of water, cucumbers, and radishes. They guarantee it works. I believe them. | |
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| I haven't tried anything because I don't like to take pills...But I did start walking, then walking/running. Took me 30 minutes, I was able to drop some weight and maintain just by walking/running. I don't go far, I just make sure I get 30 minutes in whether its just walking/speed walking/running. 30 minutes get's me about 3 miles. I think the key is cut back on your carbs and get moving....good luck. | |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | Bear - 2017-02-27 4:26 PM What's with these "cleansers"? How does that work? Do they detoxify? Speaking of detoxification and cleansers, can anyone name the substances that are cleansed, or the toxins that are removed? It's a cool sounding idea. I'm sure I have some toxic stuff in my body, but what is it?
I drink dandelion tea a lot for a body "flush" LOL It sounds gross and it is but it just keeps everything flowing. Think probiotics for horses. ( I can't handle yogurt so I use the tea. It's gentle.) Dandelion is a kidney/liver flush. We all know what the Kidney's function is and we all know what the livers function is so keeping them flushed of build up is important to me. (Hello Happy Hour LOL) My midwife had me start drinking it when I was pregnant to flush out extra water weight etc.
You have to be careful with cleanses because not only does it flush out toxins it flushes out nutrients from your body as well. I did a 14 day cleanse 3 times with about 20 days in between bottles. I used it to jumpstart my metabolism and then stopped using it once my metabolism was "working" well again. I now drink water with lemon and cucumber instead. Those two are natural cleanses but aren't as harsh on the body as made made chemical or herbal flushes. They just jumpstart your metabolism is all. You can then rely on your diet and metabolism to burn unwanted fat. | |
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     Location: SW North Dakota | Bear - 2017-02-27 3:31 PM Is anyone familiar with the fable, "Stone Soup"? Some of these diet regimens remind me of that story. They convince you that some herbal potient will burn fat, detoxify, and cleanse. They say it works even better if you supplement the potient with a diet of water, cucumbers, and radishes. They guarantee it works. I believe them.
Agree with this. I will add however, that like a lot of equine supplements, if you THINK they are helping, usually they are. Sometimes that's enough to provide the extra motivation it takes to keep going! I'm not saying they clinically "work," I'm saying the placebo effect has its place. Weightloss is the perfect place where a placebo (also meaning it isn't causing harm) might be perfect! If you feel good, you're more likely to continue with the village donations (to expand on your analogy)... keep eating better, start exercising, etc.
Weightloss isn't easy. Perhaps the stone soup diet is the latest craze.
The formula is pretty simple, no matter how you do it- consume less calories than you expend. A pound (of fat) is burned every (-3500) calories. If you need a kickstart with a fancy label, do it! Just make sure it won't cause harm. | |
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     Location: SW North Dakota | The old South Beach Diet was the most sensible lifestyle eating plan made, IMO. Nothing fancy about it, super easy. Just don't eat anything processed and avoid quickly digested fruit sugars. Nothing to count or remember. Essentially free. I lost 40 pounds in 4 months on it and was able to keep it off for 10 years (I'd have to "remind" myself about every 3 years or so- hahah).
I just looked up the new SBD and it's a lot of convenience food. Disappointing, but I suppose they had to make money somehow | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-02-27 4:44 PMw
Bear - 2017-02-27 4:26 PM What's with these "cleansers"? How does that work? Do they detoxify? Speaking of detoxification and cleansers, can anyone name the substances that are cleansed, or the toxins that are removed? It's a cool sounding idea. I'm sure I have some toxic stuff in my body, but what is it?
I drink dandelion tea a lot for a body "flush" LOL It sounds gross and it is but it just keeps everything flowing. Think probiotics for horses. ( I can't handle yogurt so I use the tea. It's gentle.) Dandelion is a kidney/liver flush. We all know what the Kidney's function is and we all know what the livers function is so keeping them flushed of build up is important to me. (Hello Happy Hour LOL) My midwife had me start drinking it when I was pregnant to flush out extra water weight etc.
You have to be careful with cleanses because not only does it flush out toxins it flushes out nutrients from your body as well. I did a 14 day cleanse 3 times with about 20 days in between bottles. I used it to jumpstart my metabolism and then stopped using it once my metabolism was "working" well again. I now drink water with lemon and cucumber instead. Those two are natural cleanses but aren't as harsh on the body as made made chemical or herbal flushes. They just jumpstart your metabolism is all. You can then rely on your diet and metabolism to burn unwanted fat.
Yes, but what exactly do you mean by "flush"? That sounds great, but what are you flushing? How do you flush the kidneys and liver? They talk about a kidney flush and a liver flush. What's the difference? What is the composition of these flushes and how do they work selectively? Don't you think it's a bunch of junk?
Do you like colon cleansing as well?
I've asked this question for many years on this forum, and have yet to get an answer.
Is it just too complicated? What are these toxins everyone talks about? Are they some sort of evil spirit? Are they poisons? Are these the same toxins that you extract overnight by putting onion slices on the soles of your feet and wearing socks?
I thought I had a buildup of toxins the other night, but it was just a real bad fart.
The only toxin was me.....she flushed my ass out the bedroom into the living room.
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    Location: Armuchee, GA, NW section of Ga | Trust me when I say, yes I tried everything, EVERYTHING under the sun and anything. But nothing worked. I finally had gastric bypass surgery in 2007 and lost 135 pounds, going from a size 24-26 down to a size 2. Finally stabilized at a 10-12 and maintained for many years. BUT this is only a tool, you can and will cheat even on this. You can regain all the lost weight PLUS. What I am trying to get at is, you must stick to a good diet, really stick to eating healthy, cutting out the sodas and all sweets. Make up your mind to eliminate all the fluff and stick to health portion control eating. Other than that, nothing OTC will make it thru the years. It will be hard, yes you will fail a few times and you swear you will do better. Just get back into a groove, make a real effort. Plenty of folks will support your attempte, just ask. Good luck, its hard but can be done. | |
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       Location: North Dakota | janjan1 - 2017-02-28 7:29 AM Trust me when I say, yes I tried everything, EVERYTHING under the sun and anything. But nothing worked. I finally had gastric bypass surgery in 2007 and lost 135 pounds
So .... sounds like before gastric bypass, you did NOT try eating smaller portions? (That's essentially what gastric bypass forces you to do = eat smaller portions.)
And I don't mean to be snotty when I say that. Really I don't. If the gastric bypass worked for you, fantastic! That's a great acommplishment you achieved. But it seems like everyone says "I tried everything!" when the real answer was so simple and basic (eat less). And yes, I understand that's a big mental game to do so ... which can be helped "forcefully" with the gastric bypass.
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    Location: Armuchee, GA, NW section of Ga | You are so correct. I did not have the will power to make portion control work for me for very long. I ended up blowing even that out of the water. I had no will power to over come the power of food. Eating wrong & too much of items really is a addiction, because it tastes so good. The tongue & stomach force the brain to eat, eat eat. Thus my last option was surgery. Portion control is basically what gastric bypass forces you to do.....but even with that, you can cheat. Even tho you will get sick, as I did, vomiting etc, because I ate something sweet, people forget that even the surgery is a TOOL. If you sip milkshakes all the time, you can cheat the portion control side of bypass. Some people can tolerate the sweet items, I am not one. But you have to learn with this tool what works. When my hair started falling out, my MD suggested more protein. Everyone is different. I have two SIL that had the "sleeve" & "band" surgery for weight loss. Both have found ways to "cheat" and have not lost as much as I did. In fact, one is currently going to a weight loss clinic now to aide her in getting things under control, drugs for her is helping curb her addiction. Over the years you have heard of the latest & greatest diet, everyone raves over how much they lost, the boiled egg diet, the banana diet, the cabbage soup diet...so on and so on. But until you hit rock bottom, all the diets, quick weight loss stuff is just another splash in the pan. Eventually everyone hits the bottom and cries because of their weight. Just like me. But in ending, I will say, Nothing Ever tastes so good as being a smaller healthy size. | |
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 Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Been going on 2 years now but I made lifestyle changes. Cutting out sugar, trying to stay away from overly processed foods. And picking worth while cheats. Not going to eat a mediocore brownie over something much more worth while. And I take a probiotic once a day, multi vitamin, and drink Cellucor HD weight loss in place of my lunch. I have lost 25 lbs in the 2 years. Also got a vitamin panel drawn to see what I was deficient in plus I got my thyroid checked to make sure those levels weren't off also. | |
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  Location: So Cal | r_beau - 2017-02-28 9:00 AM
janjan1 - 2017-02-28 7:29 AM Trust me when I say, yes I tried everything, EVERYTHING under the sun and anything. But nothing worked. I finally had gastric bypass surgery in 2007 and lost 135 pounds
So .... sounds like before gastric bypass, you did NOT try eating smaller portions? (That's essentially what gastric bypass forces you to do = eat smaller portions.)
And I don't mean to be snotty when I say that. Really I don't. If the gastric bypass worked for you, fantastic! That's a great acommplishment you achieved. But it seems like everyone says "I tried everything!" when the real answer was so simple and basic (eat less). And yes, I understand that's a big mental game to do so ... which can be helped "forcefully" with the gastric bypass.
Anyway ... food for thought! (*pun intended*)
This has been my realization recently.. I really do not know anyone who honestly controlled what they ate, kept a calorie deficit for a significant amount of time, and could not lose weight. I used a tracking app and honestly logged everything I ate (or drank!) for a couple weeks. One meal eating out (especially if you drink anything with calories) can easily be a day's worth of calories. Really paying attention to how many calories are in everything kind of makes you wake up and realize why you aren't losing. People over-complicate it, but a calorie deficit is what will make you lose weight. | |
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     Location: MN | If you want to lose SUPER fast, look up the keto diet, may be hard to maintain long term as I love carbs, however right now, I am down under 20 carbs a day and high protein, lots of water and on the treadmill at a high incline 30 min. a day 5 days a week, plus planks, and i'm losing. | |
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     Location: MN | also, NO refined sugar, and very few fruits at first, your body needs to go into ketosis which is where it starts using its fat storage as energy. NO pop, chips, potatoes, bread, rice, ice cream. Lots of hard boiled eggs, bacon, hamburger, cheese, tuna, salad, salad dressing, veggies, nuts, some peanut butter, etc | |
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        Location: CTX | snoopy - 2017-03-02 12:27 PM If you want to lose SUPER fast, look up the keto diet, may be hard to maintain long term as I love carbs, however right now, I am down under 20 carbs a day and high protein, lots of water and on the treadmill at a high incline 30 min. a day 5 days a week, plus planks, and i'm losing.
^^ this, I started this way of eating on Jan 18th and am down 20lbs. Am now 10lbs from my goal weight, and hope to get there before bikini time!!! | |
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           Location: Kansas | 1DSoon - 2017-02-27 7:07 AM
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| there is no magic pill, really. But dedication and willpower works. I have lost 21# and 19 inches so far by eating clean, drinking at least 120 oz of water a day, and doing a 15 minute HIIT work out in my office each day. Usually I have to remind myself to eat MORE. There are no "off limit" foods, but making better choices is a lifestyle change. Now that I am not used to convenience foods they are more of a "do I have to?" selection in a pinch rather than an "I NEED this!" food choice. (The smart choice is to bring your prepackaged clean food rather than eat at the concession stand or fast food.) | |
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| I haven't read the others but find an Ideal Protein clinic near you! I've seen wonderful weight loss results and improved health (patients go off of meds, diabetes meds, etc) in patients at the clinic I work at! There's a Facebook group called Ideal Protein Phase 1 Supporters, I recommend being added to it and looking at other's stories and pictures and ask questions. I was skeptical when I first started working there, but am seriously impressed!! | |
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