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| You do not feed Senior feed to a youngster. Get a feed developed for young horses. Usually they are 14-16% protein |
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| I've been feeding my 2yo Purina Equine Sr Active. Here are the two labels. The differences are minor and I spoke with my feed professional and she agreed that it would be fine. I have a 23 and 16 yo, so they are on the Sr active.
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Location: Willows, CA | flit
being in California, and with a 1/2 alfalfa roughage diet, you should be pretty close if the grass portion is high quality. There is little to gain by adding much alfalfa based or soy based concentrate to the basic roughage diet your young horse is already on. Perhaps a quality vit/min additive would be in order so that you pick up the fat soluble vitamins that your horse needs. If you test and find your overall roughage is low in protein, a ration balancer at a very low rate would be appropriate. Though that is usually not needed in California. You might do a hay test to see just where you are starting on this diet. There are a lot of mouth changes at that age, so just keep up to date (or even ahead of date) on that and you should be good to go. Overall protein for the entire diet should be in the 15%-16% range. |
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| winwillows - 2017-02-27 10:58 AM
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being in California, and with a 1/2 alfalfa roughage diet, you should be pretty close if the grass portion is high quality. There is little to gain by adding much alfalfa based or soy based concentrate to the basic roughage diet your young horse is already on. Perhaps a quality vit/min additive would be in order so that you pick up the fat soluble vitamins that your horse needs. If you test and find your overall roughage is low in protein, a ration balancer at a very low rate would be appropriate. Though that is usually not needed in California. You might do a hay test to see just where you are starting on this diet. There are a lot of mouth changes at that age, so just keep up to date (or even ahead of date) on that and you should be good to go. Overall protein for the entire diet should be in the 15%-16% range.
Yep thanks. The platinum performance is an all inclusive product as you know. I get good quality alfalfa but its a little bleached out more than I like but I can only buy 20 bales at a time. But I think its fine, good quality. THe Timothy is premium quality and premium price to. The horses love it no doubt. He just had his teeth checked by my vet last week! We removed wolf teeth and other than that he passed inspection. lol She got all up in his mouth and did not feel the need to float at this time. WIll take him back in 6 mos she said. Thanks! |
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Location: West Texas | streakysox - 2017-02-27 12:39 PM
You do not feed Senior feed to a youngster. Get a feed developed for young horses. Usually they are 14-16% protein
There really is nothing special about a senior feed or a junior feed. Its marketing for sure. Most senior feeds are min 14% protein. Actually Senior horses and Junior horses have a lot in common for what makes them healthy. |
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Location: West Texas | FLITASTIC - 2017-02-27 12:34 PM
My colt is on 50/50 alfalfa and timothy hay as well as Triple Crown senior and platinum performance. Vet just said to make sure he gets " Plenty" of protein for another year or 2 while he is growing. I think what he gets now is enough but I saw a supplement called " Fat Cat". its HIGH protein, but low fat, low fiber... Just wondering if what I feed is enough. Should be but thought I would check. Thanks!
How old is the colt? How much grain are you feeding?
You are probably doing just fine meeting his protein needs.
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| Tdove - 2017-02-27 1:29 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-02-27 12:34 PM
My colt is on 50/50 alfalfa and timothy hay as well as Triple Crown senior and platinum performance. Vet just said to make sure he gets " Plenty" of protein for another year or 2 while he is growing. I think what he gets now is enough but I saw a supplement called " Fat Cat". its HIGH protein, but low fat, low fiber... Just wondering if what I feed is enough. Should be but thought I would check. Thanks!
How old is the colt? How much grain are you feeding?
You are probably doing just fine meeting his protein needs.
Colt will be 3 in June. SO yes, his 3 year old year but he is a little behind size wise but has nice big bone and vet thinks he will get nice and big with plenty of protein. He has alfalfa and Timothy in front of him 24/7 and gets 5 pounds of the Triple crown senior ( is an alfalfa based complete feed, low starch and sugar, high fiber). The Triple crown is split into atleast 3 feedings, usually 4 as not to get to much at one sitting. Plus the Platinum performance 2x daily. |
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Location: West Texas | FLITASTIC - 2017-02-27 3:35 PM
Tdove - 2017-02-27 1:29 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-02-27 12:34 PM
My colt is on 50/50 alfalfa and timothy hay as well as Triple Crown senior and platinum performance. Vet just said to make sure he gets " Plenty" of protein for another year or 2 while he is growing. I think what he gets now is enough but I saw a supplement called " Fat Cat". its HIGH protein, but low fat, low fiber... Just wondering if what I feed is enough. Should be but thought I would check. Thanks!
How old is the colt? How much grain are you feeding?
You are probably doing just fine meeting his protein needs.
Colt will be 3 in June. SO yes, his 3 year old year but he is a little behind size wise but has nice big bone and vet thinks he will get nice and big with plenty of protein. He has alfalfa and Timothy in front of him 24/7 and gets 5 pounds of the Triple crown senior ( is an alfalfa based complete feed, low starch and sugar, high fiber ). The Triple crown is split into atleast 3 feedings, usually 4 as not to get to much at one sitting. Plus the Platinum performance 2x daily.
He is getting plenty. I would not recommend Fat Cat. Even though it is 24% protein, the serving size is only 1.2 oz, so basically a drop in the bucket. Actually there isn't much on the ingredient list that impressed me personally and I sure don't feel it has anything your horse needs that it is not getting now. Finally, it has BHA/BHT as a preservative. Here is an excerpted (courtesy of Biostar) about this ingredient:
BHA and BHT: These food preservatives are banned in England, Japan, Canada, Australia and 160 other countries around the world. The National Institutes of Health’s National Toxicology Program concluded that: “BHA can be reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen.” The European Commission has placed BHA as a Category 1 potential endocrine disruptor based on evidence that it interferes with hormone function in at least one living organism. Some studies suggest that BHT also acts as a weak endocrine disruptor and may impact lungs, liver, kidney and thyroid. Some data have shown that it does cause cancer in rats as well as developmental effects and thyroid changes.
http://blog.biostarus.com/preservatives-in-feed-and-supplements/
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| Tdove - 2017-02-27 1:45 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-02-27 3:35 PM
Tdove - 2017-02-27 1:29 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-02-27 12:34 PM
My colt is on 50/50 alfalfa and timothy hay as well as Triple Crown senior and platinum performance. Vet just said to make sure he gets " Plenty" of protein for another year or 2 while he is growing. I think what he gets now is enough but I saw a supplement called " Fat Cat". its HIGH protein, but low fat, low fiber... Just wondering if what I feed is enough. Should be but thought I would check. Thanks!
How old is the colt? How much grain are you feeding?
You are probably doing just fine meeting his protein needs.
Colt will be 3 in June. SO yes, his 3 year old year but he is a little behind size wise but has nice big bone and vet thinks he will get nice and big with plenty of protein. He has alfalfa and Timothy in front of him 24/7 and gets 5 pounds of the Triple crown senior ( is an alfalfa based complete feed, low starch and sugar, high fiber ). The Triple crown is split into atleast 3 feedings, usually 4 as not to get to much at one sitting. Plus the Platinum performance 2x daily.
He is getting plenty. I would not recommend Fat Cat. Even though it is 24% protein, the serving size is only 1.2 oz, so basically a drop in the bucket. Actually there isn't much on the ingredient list that impressed me personally and I sure don't feel it has anything your horse needs that it is not getting now. Finally, it has BHA/BHT as a preservative. Here is an excerpted (courtesy of Biostar ) about this ingredient:
BHA and BHT: These food preservatives are banned in England, Japan, Canada, Australia and 160 other countries around the world. The National Institutes of Health’s National Toxicology Program concluded that: “BHA can be reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen.” The European Commission has placed BHA as a Category 1 potential endocrine disruptor based on evidence that it interferes with hormone function in at least one living organism. Some studies suggest that BHT also acts as a weak endocrine disruptor and may impact lungs, liver, kidney and thyroid. Some data have shown that it does cause cancer in rats as well as developmental effects and thyroid changes.
http://blog.biostarus.com/preservatives-in-feed-and-supplements/
Thanks so much!!!! I will move onward and upward then! Good enough! |
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