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| This wreck has almost 1 million views on FB. I am glad noone was (seemingly) hurt but otherwise my feelings arent positive. What do yall think?
I believe this was in Brazil, but not certain.
https://www.facebook.com/paginatrestambores/videos/1037475079654526/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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| I always told my girls to pull up if they had a bad stumble or fall, to be sure their horse is not hurt. A horse will run on adrenaline despite being hurt, could make something much worse. | |
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| Im watching this thinking " no wonder the horse is hotter than the 4th of July".. | |
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Location: CTX | I understand adrenaline, but personally I would've pulled him up and either walked him through, or aimed straight for the alley.... or if I could feel anything off I'd get off right there and walk out....
But I heard that in Brazil (if this is Brazil) they care on a whole different level for theoir animals ( or rather, not.....)
I hope the horse was alright, but a fall like that can cause longterm problems. | |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | scwebster - 2017-03-02 1:18 PM Im watching this thinking " no wonder the horse is hotter than the 4th of July"..
I agree. It is pretty clear that the horse is a bit on the hot side and her whipping after she was well passed the timer makes me see why that may be. | |
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| cowgalsissy - 2017-03-02 1:25 PM scwebster - 2017-03-02 1:18 PM Im watching this thinking " no wonder the horse is hotter than the 4th of July".. I agree. It is pretty clear that the horse is a bit on the hot side and her whipping after she was well passed the timer makes me see why that may be.
Yes, and she hangs in his mouth the entire time. All those adults praising her should try to teach her something about horsemanship. | |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Complete and utter lack of horsemanship....perfect example of what not to do on a barrel run..pretty much from the time she entered the arena. ..if i had treated my horse like that when i was a kid..i would have been pulled off and had my ass tanned....m
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Location: Northwest | That just makes me sick to my stomach with worry for that horse. | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I was amazed at the complete disregard for the horse. No wonder he's an idiot. Whipping after the fall. What's the point??? And the congratulations after the run?? REALLY??? They think that's brave or good? OMG! They should have drug her a s s off the horse and whipped her. | |
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Location: Texas | Absolutely terrible horsemanship. That girl's first priority should be that horse, not her own ego and agenda. The second that horse got back up she should've been off of him and making sure that he was okay, then she should've calmly and carefully walked him out of the arena and taken care of him further to prevent making any injury he may have worse. No amount of money or fun should be worth the welfare of a horse. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | And this my friends is why I'm glad to be an American. Some cultures have a master/prisoner outlook when it comes to animals. I am happy I was taught that it is in fact a friendship between animal and human and that we should listen to our animals no matter how softly they are speaking to us.
We can go on and on about horsemanship etc. But the simple fact is, they aren't taught to be a better horsewoman or horseman. They are taught that the animal does what oyu want, when you want, and how you want, regardless of how you get them to do it and regardless of if they want to or not. It's sad. | |
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| Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry.
Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html | |
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| IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM
GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry.
Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html
We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man!    | |
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| It's like she was ****ed that the horse fell...I was also really confused why the dude was standing in front of her right before the run..I guess that's the least of the concern but that was hard to watch. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man!
Oh man, I bet that y'all could not get those animals loaded fast enought.. LOL your bother defaced that nut by knocking him off that bull, he was going to show the crowd what a great man he was.. Those crazy mexicans can really get mean when they are in a crowd, lol.. | |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-02 2:40 PM
GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man!
You know, I kinda miss those days. My son was raised behind the chutes with the bull riders and bronc riders. He knew every bull and what they did. The cowboys would ask my dad or brother about the stock and they would just point at the little boy with a 4 inch brim, black cowboy hat and say "Ask him" I don't know who was more depressed when my brother quit the business, my son or my Dad. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man!
This needs to be a movie. | |
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| IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:47 PM
GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2017-03-02 2:44 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-02 2:40 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man! You know, I kinda miss those days. My son was raised behind the chutes with the bull riders and bronc riders. He knew every bull and what they did. The cowboys would ask my dad or brother about the stock and they would just point at the little boy with a 4 inch brim, black cowboy hat and say "Ask him" I don't know who was more depressed when my brother quit the business, my son or my Dad.
I miss the good old days too, I miss the days when Rudy Vela was still alive, we had so much fun at the rodeos. So proud that Richard kept the bulls going for his dad..
I bet y'all were all depressed when you bother quit, its hard to get rodeo outa your blood if you were born with it.  | |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-02 2:57 PM
GLP - 2017-03-02 2:44 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-02 2:40 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man! You know, I kinda miss those days. My son was raised behind the chutes with the bull riders and bronc riders. He knew every bull and what they did. The cowboys would ask my dad or brother about the stock and they would just point at the little boy with a 4 inch brim, black cowboy hat and say "Ask him" I don't know who was more depressed when my brother quit the business, my son or my Dad.
I bet y'all were all depressed when you bother quit, its hard to get rodeo outa your blood if you were born with it.
Do you remember Johnny Ackles? Now, there was a character! Those rodeo cowboys loved him but they sure were scared of him, too! My brother bought bulls from Rudy and Johnny when he started out. Also, Mr. Lester Davis, he was always a gentleman to us girls. | |
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Location: Idaho | GLP - 2017-03-03 12:03 PM
Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry.
This is true. It looks like that is down in Mexico, and yep, there are video's of rodeo's down in Mexico where the horses or bulls literally fall down/roll over on their riders, and they will stay on and hang on until they are done. After watching the video as well as the reaction afterward, I was not surprised.
Now I have had the liberty of working with some GOOD Hispanic trainers, who were from mexico. And they were good people, and they treated their horses like gold, trained them right and they helped me learn a lot. They specialized in reining horses.. but I will agree, they are few and far in between. I was and still am lucky to know them. I recently went back home to visit them, and they had a nice stud that they had trained and let me ride. He was awesome, so light and soft, could spin on a dime, worked off leg cues and he was so perdy!! To my disappointment they were going to geld him soon.. I told them to let me take him home haha | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2017-03-02 3:00 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-02 2:57 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:44 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-02 2:40 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:33 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-03-02 2:23 PM GLP - 2017-03-02 2:03 PM Y'all have no idea about the difference in rodeo culture between American rodeo and Mexican/South American rodeo. We went down to Mexico back in the late 80's to put on a rodeo down there. They ride them till they quit bucking, they rope horses' front legs for sport, etc. They see the horses and bulls as a status symbol, for the most part. I am sure there are some true horsemen down there, but they are few and far between. Needless to say, we didn't even finish the rodeo before we pulled out in a hurry. Horse tripping is very common in the culture.
If the bucking horses are not bleeding when they stop bucking they "Didn't do it right" according to their unwriten rules.
Here is an article explaing how animal rights groups have cracked down on Mexican-American rodeos here in the states. But remember, anything goes in Old Mexico...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12charro.html We made sure before we went down there that they understood we using American rules for the roughstock - meaning after 8 seconds if they were still on, they were to dismount. The committee was told to make sure every roughstock rider understood this. Well, we had one joker who decided that he was riding the bull to a stand still. My brother who was a good linebacker in high school ran, leaped over the bull and tackled the bull rider. The bull turned and went after them, but my brother rolled out of the way and the bull rider took the hit from the bull. The crowd got ugly, of course, screaming "Kill the gringo" so the old security guy in the back that dad had been feeding beer and talking to prior to the show, grabbed Dad and told him to load up and get the heck out of there, he had Dad's back and showed Dad his gun. So that is what we did. Good times, man! You know, I kinda miss those days. My son was raised behind the chutes with the bull riders and bronc riders. He knew every bull and what they did. The cowboys would ask my dad or brother about the stock and they would just point at the little boy with a 4 inch brim, black cowboy hat and say "Ask him" I don't know who was more depressed when my brother quit the business, my son or my Dad.
I bet y'all were all depressed when you bother quit, its hard to get rodeo outa your blood if you were born with it. Do you remember Johnny Ackles? Now, there was a character! Those rodeo cowboys loved him but they sure were scared of him, too! My brother bought bulls from Rudy and Johnny when he started out. Also, Mr. Lester Davis, he was always a gentleman to us girls.
Oh yes I remember Mr. Johnny Ackles he was a pill, had alot of respect for the man.. Rodeo is just not like it was in my younger days, miss all the fun and action.. Rudy had some really cool bulls out on the ranch. Use to go out and watch them buck out the young bulls befor they used them for the rodeos to see if they were good are a dud, lol. | |
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| My husband showed it to me this morning and it really bothered me. It broke my heart to see how that horse walked in the arena. Then seeing the wreck and how she just kept going like nothing ever happened... well, horsemanship and many other things went out the window! I guess in that specific Brazilian rodeo (I would hate to make a generalization that include the whole Brazilian horse community) people considers that to be exceptional riding and cowgirl skills, which it would be very sad indeed.
Unfortunately, I am sure we have seen a few people doing similar things here in the USA. I know I have! There is a rider that I see every once in awhile at the barrel racers that can easily be compared to the rider of this video for the lack of horsemanship and how borderline cruel she is to her horse (both in and outside the arena) . Fortunately, she and her family have been "addressed" and we are hoping to see positive behavior from now on.  | |
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Location: Phoenix | It's one thing to keep hustling after a little skip....like maybe just a crappy part of the ground....sticky feet....but this horse NOSE DIVES, and HIPS come around and hit the ground ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
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Barrel racing wreck on FB..