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      Location: California | You rope an untouched colt to catch it and tame it and you're called inhumane. You ride with a tie down so you must not be a trainer. You pull up in a rusty horse trailer, so you must not have any idea what you're talking about. Your horse isn't bred great and kind of plain looking, so you must be a poor newbie. You finally do pinch your pennies together and buy a nice horse, and then it's all about how that horse is, "too good for you". Or if you're over weight, that's all people talk about. Or if you get fit and finally start doing well, well you're still a used to be fat, swayed back horse and rusty trailer owner who inhumanely ropes colts and uses tie downs.
I'm not talking about bhw--so many people here are nice and uplifting. Went to a GAME SHOW, not even an actual barrel race, to watch in the stands, and the non stop behind the back talking is nasty.
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| *almost there* - 2017-03-28 3:57 PM
You rope an untouched colt to catch it and tame it and you're called inhumane. You ride with a tie down so you must not be a trainer. You pull up in a rusty horse trailer, so you must not have any idea what you're talking about. Your horse isn't bred great and kind of plain looking, so you must be a poor newbie. You finally do pinch your pennies together and buy a nice horse, and then it's all about how that horse is, "too good for you". Or if you're over weight, that's all people talk about. Or if you get fit and finally start doing well, well you're still a used to be fat, swayed back horse and rusty trailer owner who inhumanely ropes colts and uses tie downs.
I'm not talking about bhw--so many people here are nice and uplifting. Went to a GAME SHOW, not even an actual barrel race, to watch in the stands, and the non stop behind the back talking is nasty.
So, WHY are horse people so mean?
Ignorance on their part. They don't know what they don't know. |
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| *almost there* - 2017-03-28 1:57 PM
You rope an untouched colt to catch it and tame it and you're called inhumane. You ride with a tie down so you must not be a trainer. You pull up in a rusty horse trailer, so you must not have any idea what you're talking about. Your horse isn't bred great and kind of plain looking, so you must be a poor newbie. You finally do pinch your pennies together and buy a nice horse, and then it's all about how that horse is, "too good for you". Or if you're over weight, that's all people talk about. Or if you get fit and finally start doing well, well you're still a used to be fat, swayed back horse and rusty trailer owner who inhumanely ropes colts and uses tie downs.
I'm not talking about bhw--so many people here are nice and uplifting. Went to a GAME SHOW, not even an actual barrel race, to watch in the stands, and the non stop behind the back talking is nasty.
So, WHY are horse people so mean?
LOL You just said the magic words " Game Show". I am absolutely NOT saying all of them are like this but my experience for the last 40 years of my life has been that those people are a whole different breed. No other way to explain it. To each their own, but they have a whole new way of looking at things... Then they realized you can actually win money at just barrel races so SEASONED horses and riders started entering the novice classes cause technically they or the horse had not won $500 lifetime. Chaps my hide. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | *almost there* - 2017-03-28 3:57 PM You rope an untouched colt to catch it and tame it and you're called inhumane. You ride with a tie down so you must not be a trainer. You pull up in a rusty horse trailer, so you must not have any idea what you're talking about. Your horse isn't bred great and kind of plain looking, so you must be a poor newbie. You finally do pinch your pennies together and buy a nice horse, and then it's all about how that horse is, "too good for you". Or if you're over weight, that's all people talk about. Or if you get fit and finally start doing well, well you're still a used to be fat, swayed back horse and rusty trailer owner who inhumanely ropes colts and uses tie downs.
I'm not talking about bhw--so many people here are nice and uplifting. Went to a GAME SHOW, not even an actual barrel race, to watch in the stands, and the non stop behind the back talking is nasty.
So, WHY are horse people so mean? I'm pretty sure the ones sitting in the stands dont know cra* about what they are talking about, to me its always the non horsey/want a be's are the ones always talking cra* about others.
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| It's really hard to make friends or meet people that don't talk crap about you anymore...wish I had the answers! And the sad part is, this isn't just at races anymore, its all over! Putting other people down makes them feel better about themselves. If someone is just a nonstop gossiper or crap talker, I always feel sorry for them. Obviously nothing is going right in their life, and they cannot find happiness. Just try to surround yourself with good people, who want to see you succeed <3 |
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      Location: California | 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 2:01 PM
because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
You made me spit my coffee out!! |
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        Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 3:01 PM because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
Some of the things you post make me shake my head but this statement couldn't be truer and made me LOL!! |
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If someone is talking directly to you about someone, cut them off and say something positive then walk away.
If you hear it in the stands and want to do something about it, interject if it is about someone being fat at one time. You can say I overheard you say this person lost so much weight, wow, that is awesome, she looks fabulous then move. |
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      Location: California | Well so someone would make a run, and then they let a certain group out of the arena, and a bunch of the people that just rode would come in the stands and saying the meanest stuff about people either in the arena waiting to make a run or during a run. I am not naive to the nasty side of people but even I started to feel uncomfortable for these people, that I didn't even know!
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| I wish it was easier to make friends at barrel races! I don't have any friends that barrel race...would be nice to have someone there to talk to sometimes. I've tried making friends, but after giving compliments, asking questions, most of the people stick their noses in the air and turn back with their group. Oh well, guess its not meant to be =p |
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| When people are comfortable talking bad about their "friends" to me, it makes me wonder what they're saying about me when I'm not around. And I agree that it isn't limited to the horse world. People are pretty bold when the person they're badmouthing isn't around, but suddenly all of those negative opinions disappear when that person shows up and they put on their fake face and act friendly. |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2017-03-28 4:02 PM
horse people can be A**holes point blank, especially english riders for some reason. They especially hate barrel racers.
I've learned that I dont really give two craps what anyone thinks of me nor my horses.
That's because most English riders have only seen the "barrel racers"who use a too-tight tie down to keep from getting their nose broken because they think a bit isn't effective until a horse's mouth is bleeding and waller around like a **** albatross whupping on their horse. |
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     Location: OH. IO | UTAHCANCHASER - 2017-03-28 5:08 PM
1DSoon - 2017-03-28 3:01 PM because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
Some of the things you post make me shake my head but this statement couldn't be truer and made me LOL!!
I agree with 99percent of the things 1D says.if you really think out his posts he is usually right on:). |
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| Katielovestbs - 2017-03-28 4:18 PM
I wish it was easier to make friends at barrel races! I don't have any friends that barrel race...would be nice to have someone there to talk to sometimes. I've tried making friends, but after giving compliments, asking questions, most of the people stick their noses in the air and turn back with their group. Oh well, guess its not meant to be =p
That is the way it was when the kids started showing cattle! Finally i met another mom that didn't grow up in the breed show circuit and we hit it off. After that it got easier. But I never forgot who the snobby ones were. It sure felt good when my daughter won State Champion against the open show people with a bred and own heifer and then when my son won National Champion with a bred and own heifer. We had a lot of people genuinely happy for us and we also received some who are THEY looks , too.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jake16 - 2017-03-28 4:23 PM UTAHCANCHASER - 2017-03-28 5:08 PM 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 3:01 PM because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
Some of the things you post make me shake my head but this statement couldn't be truer and made me LOL!! I agree with 99percent of the things 1D says.if you really think out his posts he is usually right on: ).
Yep agree Jake, he just dont waste anytime beating around the bush, he calls it the way he and most of us see's it.  |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 4:01 PM
because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | jake16 - 2017-03-28 4:23 PM UTAHCANCHASER - 2017-03-28 5:08 PM 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 3:01 PM because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
Some of the things you post make me shake my head but this statement couldn't be truer and made me LOL!! I agree with 99percent of the things 1D says.if you really think out his posts he is usually right on: ).
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2017-03-28 4:02 PM
horse people can be A**holes point blank, especially english riders for some reason. They especially hate barrel racers.
I've learned that I dont really give two craps what anyone thinks of me nor my horses.
I have done dressage and hunter jumpers for MANY years and I have nothing but great things to say about the people that I met in the discipline and I don't remember ever hearing derogatory comments about barrel racers. For us it was a very foreign world that we did not quite understand but I personally always admire the barrel racers!.
When I started to run barrels (not very long ago) I was afraid of being rejected and criticized not only because I started so late in life but by my lack of knowledge and confidence. I was so PLEASANTLY SURPRISED to meet nothing but wonderful, encouraging, helpful and the nicest people ever. I guess you find mean people in every discipline.
On a personal note, I do try to stay away from negativity and drama. I think everyone that gets on a horse regardless of the discipline of choice deserves a lot of credit and respect, but that's just my opinion LOL
I thank God everyday for all the wonderful riders in both disciplines that He has put in my life and for the two amazing mounts that put a smile on my soul every time I run them. That's what I try to concentrate on. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Unfortunately, I think you can say that just about EVERY sport ....in the stands at basketball, baseball, football, etc, etc, etc you will hear people talking crap .... and for heaven's sake don't go to a Little League or kids game..... |
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| Katielovestbs - 2017-03-28 4:18 PM
I wish it was easier to make friends at barrel races! I don't have any friends that barrel race...would be nice to have someone there to talk to sometimes. I've tried making friends, but after giving compliments, asking questions, most of the people stick their noses in the air and turn back with their group. Oh well, guess its not meant to be =p
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 3:01 PM because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
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| I'm not sure what the attitude is with a lot of horse people. I come across a lot on Facebook and they make themselves sound like complete a#$holes. Cocky, rude, or just crazy. I think the thing that gets me the most is the level of dishonesty. Lots of dishonest horse people. Praising Jesus one day and screwing someone the next. Then they have the audacity to act like the person they just took advantage of should have known better. See it all the time. |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 4:01 PM
because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SloRide - 2017-03-28 6:50 PM I'm not sure what the attitude is with a lot of horse people. I come across a lot on Facebook and they make themselves sound like complete a#$holes. Cocky, rude, or just crazy. I think the thing that gets me the most is the level of dishonesty. Lots of dishonest horse people. Praising Jesus one day and screwing someone the next. Then they have the audacity to act like the person they just took advantage of should have known better. See it all the time.
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| I've competed in both the english and western world. Both have those nasty individuals who will rip every rider and horse apart. The difference I've seen is in the english world they are nasty directly to you. Believe me, you know their true character from the get go. When I switched to western and then eventually started barrel racing, I was overjoyed with the warm and helpful welcome. Then I started hearing the comments that were accidentally recorded in my runs by "friends." I'm too broke, too fat (which apparently makes me abusive), ride an ugly donkey, and don't deserve to be in the same arena as them.
Like the above posters said, every sport has these type of people. Find your small circle of friends that are a positive influence and support you no matter what! |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 4:01 PM
because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
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| Katielovestbs - 2017-03-28 4:18 PM
I wish it was easier to make friends at barrel races! I don't have any friends that barrel race...would be nice to have someone there to talk to sometimes. I've tried making friends, but after giving compliments, asking questions, most of the people stick their noses in the air and turn back with their group. Oh well, guess its not meant to be =p
Come to illinois, i will be your friend! |
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        Location: Pacific Northwest | 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 2:01 PM
because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
You get charged with assault if you do. Speaking from experience. Although it was lowered to disorderly conduct. Still, on probation for a year.
In my defense I told her if she didn't shut up I was going to hit her. Don't think that just because you're over 200lbs that the 110lb girl won't make good on her promises  |
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       Location: Phoenix | 1DSoon - 2017-03-28 2:01 PM
because no one gets punched in the face anymore.
This may be best thing you've ever said on this forum!!!!!!!
Haha bravo. |
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| Katielovestbs - 2017-03-28 4:18 PM I wish it was easier to make friends at barrel races! I don't have any friends that barrel race...would be nice to have someone there to talk to sometimes. I've tried making friends, but after giving compliments, asking questions, most of the people stick their noses in the air and turn back with their group. Oh well, guess its not meant to be =p
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     Location: Texas | I think a lot, but not all, horse people get wrapped up in their own ego. They develop cliques and it becomes cool to stare down their noses at other people, gossiping, harshly criticizing. Sometimes being around other horse people literally feels like high school all over again. I see it all the time. The key is to not let it get to you. They try to drag others down to make themselves feel better. Who cares what they think? Who cares if your horse isn't the best looking one there, or that you pulled up in an old trailer that's seen better days? What matters is what's in your heart, your mind, and how you treat your horse. Go out there, do the best that you can do and have fun with it. |
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      Location: Texas | I think part of taking care of yourself is not sitting in the stands and listening to that crap. Do not give others the power to determine your mood, self-esteem, confidence level, etc. It's toxic. Just walk away. Definitely try going to a different event...I am in TX & we have lots of Cowboy Churches that put on playdays. There's usually lots of choices when it comes to where to spend my time and $. |
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| Last year at our local fair and rodeo, one of the fair board members made a sh!tty comment about my daughters rodeo run. She ended up being right in the middle but it was a bit off the fast time. We were happy as it was only the 6th run the mare had made and my 15 year old daughter trained her herself. From round pen stage to rodeo, and my dad bred and raised her. An ADULT fair board member said "maybe she should've stuck to the western games". I was livid to say the least.
The next morning, I happened to be watching slack while I drank my coffee. I watched this women's 22 year old daughter run on a much more seasoned horse. She ran over half a second slower than my daughter. And they paid more money for this horse.
I walked right by her, caught her eye and gave her the most disgustingly sweet smile you could imagine. I knew and she knew that karma came knocking.
These types always get handed their @ss. You may not see it, or know it but I promise you Karma gets them in the end. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | wickedstepmother - 2017-03-29 11:23 AM Last year at our local fair and rodeo, one of the fair board members made a sh!tty comment about my daughters rodeo run. She ended up being right in the middle but it was a bit off the fast time. We were happy as it was only the 6th run the mare had made and my 15 year old daughter trained her herself. From round pen stage to rodeo, and my dad bred and raised her. An ADULT fair board member said "maybe she should've stuck to the western games". I was livid to say the least. The next morning, I happened to be watching slack while I drank my coffee. I watched this women's 22 year old daughter run on a much more seasoned horse. She ran over half a second slower than my daughter. And they paid more money for this horse. I walked right by her, caught her eye and gave her the most disgustingly sweet smile you could imagine. I knew and she knew that karma came knocking. These types always get handed their @ss. You may not see it, or know it but I promise you Karma gets them in the end.
Passive agression is always the best answer.
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        Location: Kansas | Bear - 2017-03-28 4:56 PM snowflakes
No kidding.............I like horse people.
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      Location: California | I want to clarify, this did not affect my mood or emotions personally, nor are these people in my circle, let alone hardly know. Just made me stop to think, "wow, why are horse people such *****"
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| 1DSoon - 2017-03-29 8:26 AM
wickedstepmother - 2017-03-29 11:23 AM Last year at our local fair and rodeo, one of the fair board members made a sh!tty comment about my daughters rodeo run. She ended up being right in the middle but it was a bit off the fast time. We were happy as it was only the 6th run the mare had made and my 15 year old daughter trained her herself. From round pen stage to rodeo, and my dad bred and raised her. An ADULT fair board member said "maybe she should've stuck to the western games". I was livid to say the least. The next morning, I happened to be watching slack while I drank my coffee. I watched this women's 22 year old daughter run on a much more seasoned horse. She ran over half a second slower than my daughter. And they paid more money for this horse. I walked right by her, caught her eye and gave her the most disgustingly sweet smile you could imagine. I knew and she knew that karma came knocking. These types always get handed their @ss. You may not see it, or know it but I promise you Karma gets them in the end.
Passive agression is always the best answer.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I've never noticed that horse people are particularly mean, there are mean people everywhere you go. And everytime someone starts in on snobbery, I can't help but wonder if that's more an introverted personality because there are tons of that type who seem to connect really well with horses. I have gotten to know quite a few on facebook and here who when you see them in person are much quieter than you would expect.
Or maybe where I live the people are abnormally nice. Or maybe I'm too wrapped up in my own business to notice if someone says something ugly...or too deaf, since I can't hear **** in my left ear. I do know that I haven't experienced very many mean people in real life, but the internet seems full of them. |
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         Location: North Dakota | I think it is because competition can bring out the worst in mankind. Most people that show up for equine events are competitive. That is why they are there in the first place. There are all kinds of theories about why, as humans, we get mean at competitions. I really believe the competitive spirit has a dark side. Some people can keep it in check and others cant. We (probably) all have had our share of dark side moments. Even classifying people like "dressage people are all mean" or "gaming people just dont know" is mean and we should avoid these stereotypes. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | Three 4 Luck - 2017-03-29 11:48 AM I've never noticed that horse people are particularly mean, there are mean people everywhere you go. And everytime someone starts in on snobbery, I can't help but wonder if that's more an introverted personality because there are tons of that type who seem to connect really well with horses. I have gotten to know quite a few on facebook and here who when you see them in person are much quieter than you would expect.
Or maybe where I live the people are abnormally nice. Or maybe I'm too wrapped up in my own business to notice if someone says something ugly...or too deaf, since I can't hear **** in my left ear. I do know that I haven't experienced very many mean people in real life, but the internet seems full of them.
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       Location: Florida | When watching a barrel race, or any other sports event, I make it a point to say something nice about everyone. Even if someone has a bad run I can say, what a pretty horse, or I love her tack, or she is really making progress with that horse. It makes me feel better to make others feel better. No one knows what the other person is going through, or has accomplished. No one has the right to critize unless asked for a critique by the person themselves. |
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          Location: Missouri | It's not what you pull up in, it's what you unload. A wise person told me this once. I know someone who didn't have the best trailer and who didn't dress the part, but her horses were always top of the 1D. She is well respected and a great person with a huge heart for helping other people. I'm lucky to call her friend. |
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        Location: Pacific Northwest | I have noticed that around here it's mainly the high school aged kids and their parents that are mean, and it's the ones that only do 4h and gaming shows. They talk crap about anyone who is good. And yet they never show up to a real barrel race where there's real competition.
I did 4h and high school equestrian team when I was younger and I don't miss it. I didn't have the fastest horse back then (like we are talking 5d if it had been a barrel race) but karma has came around. Everyone that was "sooo good" back then has never improved, because they still just go to gaming shows and they still know everything so they don't need to take lessons. But me, I got involved in strictly barrels right out of high school. Started taking lessons, going to clinics and joined this board. My mare that I have now is 1d/2d against some nice horses (including Paige) and could trip at the first barrel and still outrun everyone that was "so much better" than me in high school. Her worst run ever would still beat their fastest times by a full second.
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| I've been wondering this myself lately. I got into showing obedience dogs about a year ago and I can honestly say that the people I have met in dog circles have been much more friendly and welcoming than many of the horse people I've met and competed against for the past decade. However, I have heard the opposite as well and people find "dog people" much cattier than "horse people"
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| NJJ - 2017-03-28 4:49 PM
Unfortunately, I think you can say that just about EVERY sport ....in the stands at basketball, baseball, football, etc, etc, etc you will hear people talking crap .... and for heaven's sake don't go to a Little League or kids game.....
You are so correct! My son is the QB for his varsity team. I don't sit in reserve section, I don't go to booster meetings(I'm a member and volunteer) don't socialize with the other moms bc they are caddy beeeatches. Oh and the social media pages are filled with savages. |
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           Location: Florida.. | Alot of nasty remarks about english... The people I hang out with and train would never do that.. I dont think your being very nice catagorizing us.. makes me wonder what barrelracers say.....................I know the barrelracers I have known are very nice and I believe I am to... I think there is some derogatory people in every crowd. depends what events... Bad education is in all disciplines.
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| Here is my take on it, quit taking people at shows so serious most only want to know a winner at 50 I've been a loser then a winner back and forth many times the people who talk to me vary depending on my success most are shallow as people are in all walks of life in the workplace,church etc. parents siblings children and a few people are who I put my time into.I recently switched events and it's the same in it to. I personally thank southern people are the nicest the northerners are standoffish. |
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