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| I went to an open ride yesterday and I saw some people running their horses over and over and over... there was a girl that run her horse open wide more than 5 times! It saddened me a little to be honest but... none of my business I know  |
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 Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Lol, were we at the same race? I saw the same thing on Sunday. They were the only ones in the practice arena so they kept running over and over and then were mad that the horse was all amped up. |
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| Don't worry. Their horse will not have any run left for the barrel race when it counts. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Depending on the age of the girl, find her parents. See what their philosophy is, or see if THEY know any better. Sometimes parents get convinced to buy the kid a pony that morphs into a barrel horse after a year or two. They hear Practice, Practice, Practice and don't really get told that it doesn't mean to run your horse over and over. So sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction doesn't hurt.
Now if they are the ones who ran over and over right before the kid did, well, don't waste your breath. |
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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | Nateracer - 2017-03-30 11:09 AM Depending on the age of the girl, find her parents. See what their philosophy is, or see if THEY know any better. Sometimes parents get convinced to buy the kid a pony that morphs into a barrel horse after a year or two. They hear Practice, Practice, Practice and don't really get told that it doesn't mean to run your horse over and over. So sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction doesn't hurt.
Now if they are the ones who ran over and over right before the kid did, well, don't waste your breath.
In my experience, they don't want to hear it.
I have a real problem going to open rides for this reason. I'm old, and I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut.
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| Yep, see it all the time. There was a gal here that almost made the NFR. SHe had a horse that she would run over and over and over in a time only. I loved when she did it cause in the jackpot it was probably the 5th run that day and she was way slower than the first couple times. But I see no obligation in finding parents etc, they paid for the time only they can do what they darn well please. |
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Veteran
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| There is a "trainer" here that will run her horses over and over and over before the barrel race even starts or she will make the poor horse circle one barrel so many times that by the time the horse gets done it is dripping with sweat and then....... she runs them at the actual race!!!! This girl is a complete idiot and so cruel to animals! She also wrenches on their mouthes and saws back and forth. Point being..... there are idiots everywhere around us, I don't know the answer because that "type" you can't tell anything too!! |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | You mean that is not how you train a barrel horse. LOL |
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 I'm Cooler Offline
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I used to go to Open ride at the arena by me. Nice big arena, and I'm usually stuck in a really tiny indoor so this was when I would set up barrels to do some slow work. There was this girl that would show up and she would bring two horses. Get on one horse, pony the other. She would get on and immediately set off trotting. She's would trot half a lap and then start loping. She would lope the horses about 10 minutes and then the rest of the night she would switch between horses, running them full speed through the pattern every time, hitting barrels almost every single time.
It was an absolute train wreck. My friend and i used to just sit in the corner and watch. typically once she showed up we knew our ride was over. |
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Location: North Dakota | Unfortunately this is way more common than it should be... |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | See it all the time..and not just kids...m |
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Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | The one I saw was a kid on the horse and the mother screaming at her to kick her and pull her up in the turns. It is the moms main horse so I'm not sure what she was trying to get the daughter to achieve. But it was interesting to watch... |
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Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Fun2Run - 2017-03-30 11:17 AM Nateracer - 2017-03-30 11:09 AM Depending on the age of the girl, find her parents. See what their philosophy is, or see if THEY know any better. Sometimes parents get convinced to buy the kid a pony that morphs into a barrel horse after a year or two. They hear Practice, Practice, Practice and don't really get told that it doesn't mean to run your horse over and over. So sometimes a gentle nudge in the right direction doesn't hurt.
Now if they are the ones who ran over and over right before the kid did, well, don't waste your breath. In my experience, they don't want to hear it.
I have a real problem going to open rides for this reason. I'm old, and I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut.
I agree that most don't want to hear it. But there are a few who don't honestly know. Not common, but not unheard of either. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Those are the idiots I just want to jerk off their horses and smack upside the head. Unfortunately they ruin horse after horse and the horse pays the price. The upside is because they ruin all their horses they just add to the added money. No horse can take that for long. Neither physically or mentally. |
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 Ms. Marine
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Location: Texas | Seems to be pretty common, but it isn't right. |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| No, it is not right but as others have said people don't want to listen. I witnessed a teenage girl run her horse about four times, the horse was short step stepping/hopping on the back right so bad as soon as she stopped he limped out of the arena. I did politely say something to the mother as they were passing by me -that he is hurting pretty bad and probably should not be running. She replied they were aware of that but he needs to learn he has to do what they ask no matter what.  I stayed polite but did respond that running her horse will teach them something, that they hate barrels and what they see as bad behavior is pain not attitude. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | I'll never forget one mom, horse, and kid combo. They all looked miserable. I was helping my sister warm up at her first bigger race and this mom was just yelling non stop at her daughter to kick and pull and be harder on her horse. Then she got on and ran that horse into rollback after rollback after rollback after rollback after rollback. She was SO rough on that poor horse and the girl.
When the girl ran later I don't remember what happened exactly but I'm pretty sure she hit the first barrel and the horse ran back to the gate. She had no control and looked terrified (probably more of her mom than of the horse). I saw her mom yelling at her afterward and them working the horse more. Great way to ruin a horse and a kid. |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Somewhere across the SABINE | When I was a kid, I did that exact same thing. I didnt know any better and it was fun to me!
I have always wanted to learn more, and over time I have self educated, attended clinics and just by golly learned from the school of hard knocks.
Would I have listened? it probably depends on who was giving the advice.
I attended a team roping jackpot last weekend and the lack of horsemanship and tack placement?adjustment just about made me scream! |
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Extreme Veteran
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| My best advice don't look,seriously if they don't ask leave them alone it's a waste of your breathe and mental energy stay focused on your horse and being your best.People do some really funny things and looking back I did my share lol. we all start somewhere and not everyone shares the same enthusiasm or skill. |
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| My best advice don't look,seriously if they don't ask leave them alone it's a waste of your breathe and mental energy stay focused on your horse and being your best.People do some really funny things and looking back I did my share lol. we all start somewhere and not everyone shares the same enthusiasm or skill. |
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Shelter Dog Lover
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| tin can - 2017-04-02 8:22 AM My best advice don't look,seriously if they don't ask leave them alone it's a waste of your breathe and mental energy stay focused on your horse and being your best.People do some really funny things and looking back I did my share lol. we all start somewhere and not everyone shares the same enthusiasm or skill.
Yes, you may be wasting your breath but you also might just get through to someone every now and then. Another time I gave the mom the number of my trainer and she did take her kid to some lessons. My approach was you have a very nice horse and a good rider with a great future, this lady can keep you on track. I will always take the risk for the chance of helping a horse. |
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Location: Duvall, WA | OK, that's it, I am never going to sell any of my horses. Makes me sick to think of one ending up with someone like this. . . |
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| NipntuckLR - 2017-04-02 12:09 PM
OK, that's it, I am never going to sell any of my horses. Makes me sick to think of one ending up with someone like this. . .
LOL... I am with YOU! My older horse is a heck of a horse for a beginner. He can teach the right person so much and it would be ideal for a kid who wants to do youth rodeo but I am so afraid of him falling in the wrong hands that I just assume to keep him and let him have a very well deserved retirement life at home! I know it is very selfish of me (maybe) but God put this amazing animal in my hands to take care of him just like he takes care of me  |
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Shelter Dog Lover
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| love2ridepre - 2017-04-03 8:44 AM NipntuckLR - 2017-04-02 12:09 PM OK, that's it, I am never going to sell any of my horses. Makes me sick to think of one ending up with someone like this. . . LOL... I am with YOU! My older horse is a heck of a horse for a beginner. He can teach the right person so much and it would be ideal for a kid who wants to do youth rodeo but I am so afraid of him falling in the wrong hands that I just assume to keep him and let him have a very well deserved retirement life at home! I know it is very selfish of me (maybe ) but God put this amazing animal in my hands to take care of him just like he takes care of me
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2017-04-03 9:20 AM love2ridepre - 2017-04-03 8:44 AM NipntuckLR - 2017-04-02 12:09 PM OK, that's it, I am never going to sell any of my horses. Makes me sick to think of one ending up with someone like this. . . LOL... I am with YOU! My older horse is a heck of a horse for a beginner. He can teach the right person so much and it would be ideal for a kid who wants to do youth rodeo but I am so afraid of him falling in the wrong hands that I just assume to keep him and let him have a very well deserved retirement life at home! I know it is very selfish of me (maybe ) but God put this amazing animal in my hands to take care of him just like he takes care of me
Glad to see others keep their ageing horses, I dont sell either, I have not sold a horse in 20 plus years, my horses are with me for life. I dont trust very many any more and seen horses go to the wrong person and its so sad.. |
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| There seems to be that person at every race. I think talking to the kid is easier but thats if you can get through the fire breathing mom. haha. I think kids dont realize running their horse that much can ruin the horse. I use to do it when i was younger, then age and a little education changed that. |
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 Georgia Peach
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Location: Georgia | Southtxponygirl - 2017-04-03 10:33 AM rodeomom3 - 2017-04-03 9:20 AM love2ridepre - 2017-04-03 8:44 AM NipntuckLR - 2017-04-02 12:09 PM OK, that's it, I am never going to sell any of my horses. Makes me sick to think of one ending up with someone like this. . . LOL... I am with YOU! My older horse is a heck of a horse for a beginner. He can teach the right person so much and it would be ideal for a kid who wants to do youth rodeo but I am so afraid of him falling in the wrong hands that I just assume to keep him and let him have a very well deserved retirement life at home! I know it is very selfish of me (maybe ) but God put this amazing animal in my hands to take care of him just like he takes care of me
Agreed! I have a 19 year old that I've had since she was 7. She is totally sound and will still hit the 3D when in running shape. I dont have much time to ride her but I can't stand the thought of her going to a bad home. So she will stay.
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | When I read these kind of posts and see the bad, y'all always restore my faith because I'm reminded of the great people that don't see their horses as disposable. You give them back what they give us throughout their lives with those great big hearts and soul--ponies can't say it, so I will. . . . Thank each of you that offer the forever homes to these well-deserving animals. |
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Extreme Veteran
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| I have contemplated the idea of leasing my old guy, just so I have some control over what happens to him, but I know that as soon as I feel like he is being worked or run one more time than needed I will end it right then right there, maybe even making people mad. So I just assumed not to put myself or my horse in that kind of situation. LOL
Being a teacher, I do assure you that approaching the parents can be one hundred times more challenging and frustrating than approaching the kids! I witnessed a situation recently with a teen running her horse to pieces and beating him during warm up, the parents were approached (not by me) and their answer was " it is our horse, we do whatever we want with him" (It goes without saying they have not been seen again) My point is that when you deal with people like that, there is never a good outcome. It is about impossible to fix STUPID. Unfortunately the poor horses are the ones that pay the price and if I can help me, my boys won't be put in that situation.  |
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this is not normal, right?