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Cellulitis help please ????
Turninhard
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-04-11 12:11 PM
Subject: Cellulitis help please ????


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Cellulitis !!! Ugh what do I put on the wound and wrap or don't wrap?? She has already had antibiotics and I'm giving bute for swelling. Hydro twice a day with exercise but I have struggled with wether I should wrap or not and what meds to put on this ugly thing. ????
I will try and add a picture !
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RockinGR
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2017-04-11 12:16 PM
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I used a DMSO/Tetracyclene mixture that my vet provided. Salve and gauze on the wound, drench on the leg and wrapped it with cast pad and vetwrap.
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Turninhard
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-04-11 12:16 PM
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Not sure how to make my pic small enough on my cell phone pic coming soon as I get home :/
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-04-11 9:48 PM
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gunner07
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2017-04-12 7:22 AM
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Ask your vet do give dmso IV, you will have a horse that smells but it works
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-04-12 7:55 AM
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Turninhard - 2017-04-11 12:11 PM

Cellulitis !!! Ugh what do I put on the wound and wrap or don't wrap?? She has already had antibiotics and I'm giving bute for swelling. Hydro twice a day with exercise but I have struggled with wether I should wrap or not and what meds to put on this ugly thing. ????
I will try and add a picture !

Where is the cellulitis located? Why are you calling it cellulitis? How long has it been there? How did it get there.....ie: cut, abrasion, bruise, etc...?
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sorrel horse ranch
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2017-04-12 9:45 AM
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When my stud got cellulitis both his back legs were as big around as a stove pipe.  Cellulitis is nothing to play around with.  My vet kept him at his clinic for over a week.  It is quite painful.....my stud was very stoic but he was quite painful at that time and it showed.  And I can tell you, as I have cellulitis right now it is most painful.  I would strongly suggest you get to the vet and make sure this is what your horse has. 
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Turninhard
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-04-12 10:04 AM
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Here is a picture of her ankle. I have spoke with my vet he said yes it is indeed a cellulitis we have given her antibiotics orally and bute for pain, swelling hasn't been to bad. I have been doctoring her leg sense November there was a different conversation about wrapping her leg and such. I believe that the entry point for the cellulitis was from her previous injury that was almost healed. i feel so deflated to be battling this after her leg injury!! I do also have an appointment for her to be seen again. I cold water treat her twice a day so i see every little change in her.
I just wasn't sure what to put on the actual cellulitis??



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Turninhard
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-04-12 10:08 AM
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this was the initial injury i have been rehabbing and she was doing great!



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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-04-12 11:08 AM
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So it looks like a "de-gloving" injury there, and that has all healed except for that granulating wound behind the fetlock. That kind of injury can interrupt the lymphatic drainage and basically cause lymphedema in the lower leg. I can't say that's what's going on here, but that's a strong possibility. It looks to me like this wound is quite a bit worse.
I assume the first picture you posted of the open, beefy red wound, is the most recent photo. In the center of that wound is some green, dead tissue. If lymphedema is playing a role here, then my guess is that he needs to have that wound sharply debrided of all that dead tissue, and some form of mild elastic compression would help reduce the lymphedema. You'd need sedation to sharply debrided this, most likely. I'd wash and scrub that wound with a surgical soap, apply a layer of 4X4s, and wrap it. Antibiotic might help in this instance, if there's lymphedema. I'd do this twice a day, ideally. I know it's a lot of work, but if I had to guess that's what I think would work well.
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Turninhard
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-04-12 1:56 PM
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thank you Bear,
yes the degloving injury is the injury that happened in november and there was no issue or "injury" to the ankle at the time her leg has been healing and i have managed to get it looking pretty good and finally could get away with out wrapping and minimal swelling. then about a week ago i noticed the round blotching on her lower ankle and even some slightly in the front of her ankle. immediatly started her on antibiotics and emmense cleaning of the leg which was already happening i just stepped up the cleaning. swelling has not been to bad but is present. i do have her another appointment . I just wanted to know if anyone had delt with this and what they had done to help or what the standard was to wrap or not to what cream or not .. that kind of stuff?
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2017-04-12 2:17 PM
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Mine had a de-gloving type wound on the front of his hock. I scrubbed the area really well with betadine surgical scrub, cold hosed, let air dry, then added  fura zone per vet orders. I put a layer of non stick gauze over the fura zone. I added a layer of cotton padding over the wound. I wrapped all of this with vet wrap, leaving an opening for his hock to be able to bend and then taped the vet wrap to the top and bottom of his leg with elastic bandage tape. I did this for about 6 months while new skin was growing. Vet was please with minimal scaring, no further infection, and full range of motion without any permanet damage to nerves or tissue. 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-04-12 2:28 PM
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IRunOnFaith - 2017-04-12 2:17 PM

Mine had a de-gloving type wound on the front of his hock. I scrubbed the area really well with betadine surgical scrub, cold hosed, let air dry, then added  fura zone per vet orders. I put a layer of non stick gauze over the fura zone. I added a layer of cotton padding over the wound. I wrapped all of this with vet wrap, leaving an opening for his hock to be able to bend and then taped the vet wrap to the top and bottom of his leg with elastic bandage tape. I did this for about 6 months while new skin was growing. Vet was please with minimal scaring, no further infection, and full range of motion without any permanet damage to nerves or tissue. 

Excellent job. This is what I was talking about basically.
If this horse has lymphedema, then he'll always be prone to infections below the scarring. The OP did a great job with the original wound, but with the healing came scarring, and this ulcer popped up out of nowhere. Normally, I don't think treating the swelling, per se', is all that important, but with lymphedema, that's a whole different ballgame. I bet that's what's going on here.
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2017-04-12 4:18 PM
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Bear - 2017-04-12 2:28 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-04-12 2:17 PM Mine had a de-gloving type wound on the front of his hock. I scrubbed the area really well with betadine surgical scrub, cold hosed, let air dry, then added  fura zone per vet orders. I put a layer of non stick gauze over the fura zone. I added a layer of cotton padding over the wound. I wrapped all of this with vet wrap, leaving an opening for his hock to be able to bend and then taped the vet wrap to the top and bottom of his leg with elastic bandage tape. I did this for about 6 months while new skin was growing. Vet was please with minimal scaring, no further infection, and full range of motion without any permanet damage to nerves or tissue. 
Excellent job. This is what I was talking about basically. If this horse has lymphedema, then he'll always be prone to infections below the scarring. The OP did a great job with the original wound, but with the healing came scarring, and this ulcer popped up out of nowhere. Normally, I don't think treating the swelling, per se', is all that important, but with lymphedema, that's a whole different ballgame. I bet that's what's going on here.

Bear, I am not familiar with the term hilighted. Could you elaborate? 
What is the main difference in the OPs case and my case? Does treatment differ in the two cases or can she follow the procedure I used to treat?   Does healing differ in the two cases? 
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