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| Hello. I have a mare that had a stress fracture on the shaft of her pelvis along with a psoas muscle strain. It was creating a great deal of inflammation around the stress fracture site. The fracture is healed but the psoas muscle is the bear we are presently dealng with. She had 6 months of strict stall rest to heal both injuries. A month ago I was able to start hand walking and trotting then work up to a lounging for 20 minutes at the walk and trot. Last week I was able to ride her. She is still showing signs of soreness from the psoas muscle. Riding lightly and turn out is the best thing for her according to my vet. Anyways has anyone dealt with a psoas muscle injury? What was your rehab plan and what type of prognosis did you have? What other therapy did you do? The muscle is to deep to treat with anything really. I am worried about her so I am just seeking other experiences with this specific muscle since its unlike any other muscle in the body. Thanks! |
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| Two suggestions---red light therapy or theraplate or both |
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| streakysox - 2017-04-19 8:47 AM
Two suggestions---red light therapy or theraplate or both.
Did you try this or know of anyone who had for the psoas muscle? I ve been told it's to deep for most therapies which is why they don't inject or do Shockwave. Thanks for your help. |
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Location: Nebraska | What signs of soreness does one show for a psoas muscle injury? Just curious. |
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 10:43 AM
streakysox - 2017-04-19 8:47 AM
Two suggestions---red light therapy or theraplate or both.
Did you try this or know of anyone who had for the psoas muscle? I ve been told it's to deep for most therapies which is why they don't inject or do Shockwave. Thanks for your help.
Red light therapy penetrates 4 inches. Theraplate affects the whole body. |
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| brlracerchick - 2017-04-19 10:47 AM
What signs of soreness does one show for a psoas muscle injury? Just curious.
Hind end lameness. Her's was ongoing hock and stifle soreness on the side of the strain. We don't know if the chicken or the egg came first. I mean the muscle strain or the fracture. We assume muscle strain then the fracture. She was real reluctant to use her hind end when she would rate. She would flip her hip out slighty. The psoas muscle is what moves their hind leg to step under and round their back . Some horses obviously will have a hard time with collection. It's hard to diagnose. Normally diagnosed via rectal exam and rectal ultrasound. |
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| streakysox - 2017-04-19 10:53 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 10:43 AM
streakysox - 2017-04-19 8:47 AM
Two suggestions---red light therapy or theraplate or both.
Did you try this or know of anyone who had for the psoas muscle? I ve been told it's to deep for most therapies which is why they don't inject or do Shockwave. Thanks for your help.
Red light therapy penetrates 4 inches. Theraplate affects the whole body.
im curios about the red light Thanks! |
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Location: SW North Dakota | I had a gelding with a similar sounding injury. I used the Balanced Training System rig after injections to his SI and deep muscle bodies. The BTS helped him a LOT!
Fast forward 5 years: He was never sound enough ro run barrels, but we did ranch on him through last year. He still struggled with soreness if we used him hard or long... He's currently a pasture ornament. :( |
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| ND3canAddict - 2017-04-19 11:31 AM
I had a gelding with a similar sounding injury. I used the Balanced Training System rig after injections to his SI and deep muscle bodies. The BTS helped him a LOT!
Fast forward 5 years: He was never sound enough ro run barrels, but we did ranch on him through last year. He still struggled with soreness if we used him hard or long... He's currently a pasture ornament. :(
Omg. Thanks for sharing your experience. But this just broke my heart. |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | Yes that does break your heart! My stud did something very similar in February, 2009. We found it in April. Many months of stall rest and rehab. Once he was cleared for regular riding we did everything else but no barrels for many years. I slowy brought him back in March of 2016. Did our first and last show in October. He is now retired from barrels. I still ride him and do everything else with him. He likes pushing cattle, rail classes and dressage. But I can tell when it starts to bother him.
I wish you many prayers. There are so many things out there now to use. Good luck! |
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| flyingcolors - 2017-04-19 1:59 PM
Yes that does break your heart! My stud did something very similar in February, 2009. We found it in April. Many months of stall rest and rehab. Once he was cleared for regular riding we did everything else but no barrels for many years. I slowy brought him back in March of 2016. Did our first and last show in October. He is now retired from barrels. I still ride him and do everything else with him. He likes pushing cattle, rail classes and dressage. But I can tell when it starts to bother him.
I wish you many prayers. There are so many things out there now to use. Good luck!
Did you get an exact diagnosis for what your horses injury was? Im so sorry about your horse. I'm so concerned. My mare qualified me for my first circuit finals with her injury before we found it and she only ran half the year. Her heart and try is ridiculous. The thought of not being able to run her again is devastating. Obviously its not definite yet since she is only a month off of stall rest but with her being lame this soon is pretty disheartening. |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | They were pretty sure but...I hauled him to Naperville IL. I know he had a very bad slip and fall that winter. I had him vetted but things seemed ok. Went to a show and something was not right.
There are so many treatment options out there take advantage of all of them!
He was my dream horse when I bought him. He stil is but we never got to run and show like I had planned. |
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| flyingcolors - 2017-04-19 2:34 PM
They were pretty sure but...I hauled him to Naperville IL. I know he had a very bad slip and fall that winter. I had him vetted but things seemed ok. Went to a show and something was not right.
There are so many treatment options out there take advantage of all of them!
He was my dream horse when I bought him. He stil is but we never got to run and show like I had planned.
That is very sad. I'm so sorry again. Anytime someone has a horse that has a career ending injury it's hard to take. |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 2:37 PM flyingcolors - 2017-04-19 2:34 PM They were pretty sure but...I hauled him to Naperville IL. I know he had a very bad slip and fall that winter. I had him vetted but things seemed ok. Went to a show and something was not right.
There are so many treatment options out there take advantage of all of them!
He was my dream horse when I bought him. He stil is but we never got to run and show like I had planned. That is very sad. I'm so sorry again. Anytime someone has a horse that has a career ending injury it's hard to take.
Thanks, he is the one in my avatar. |
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| flyingcolors - 2017-04-19 2:44 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 2:37 PM flyingcolors - 2017-04-19 2:34 PM They were pretty sure but...I hauled him to Naperville IL. I know he had a very bad slip and fall that winter. I had him vetted but things seemed ok. Went to a show and something was not right.
There are so many treatment options out there take advantage of all of them!
He was my dream horse when I bought him. He stil is but we never got to run and show like I had planned. That is very sad. I'm so sorry again. Anytime someone has a horse that has a career ending injury it's hard to take.
What a very pretty boy! |
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| Probarrels - 2017-04-19 2:39 PM
I second the Theraplate and red light therapy
I honestly don't know much about red light therapy. Is this something you have done like from a specialist for acupuncture and other therapies? I've see units for red light sold for personal use too. Is there a good brand on the market that's worth the investment? Thanks! |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Had one with the same injury. Never declared sound for Barrels. She became a pasture ornament at 8 years old. We eventually gave her to a family friend who used her for leadline, walk, trot class. She passed her down to another family friend after her daughter got too old for the class.
She strained/pulled hers by falling at the first.
This was back in 2003-4. We didn't have access to theraplate or red light therapy even if it was available, or even around back then, it wasn't an option for us.
Good luck. 
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| barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 6:08 PM
How was the Psoas muscle injury diagnosed?
She had on going hock and stifle soreness. They did a rectal exam and felt swelling so they then did a rectal ultrasounded. You could see the inflammation of The psoas muscle and while they were there they found the stress fracture. |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 7:38 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 6:08 PM
How was the Psoas muscle injury diagnosed?
She had on going hock and stifle soreness. They did a rectal exam and felt swelling so they then did a rectal ultrasounded. You could see the inflammation of The psoas muscle and while they were there they found the stress fracture.
Very interesting.... Definitely a difficult area to image! Fingers crossed that she continues to improve for you. |
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| barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 8:54 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 7:38 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 6:08 PM
How was the Psoas muscle injury diagnosed?
She had on going hock and stifle soreness. They did a rectal exam and felt swelling so they then did a rectal ultrasounded. You could see the inflammation of The psoas muscle and while they were there they found the stress fracture.
Very interesting.... Definitely a difficult area to image! Fingers crossed that she continues to improve for you.
Thank you. Coming on here and reading the unsuccessful stories is so disheartening. Hoping I hear some positive ones |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 9:03 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 8:54 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 7:38 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 6:08 PM
How was the Psoas muscle injury diagnosed?
She had on going hock and stifle soreness. They did a rectal exam and felt swelling so they then did a rectal ultrasounded. You could see the inflammation of The psoas muscle and while they were there they found the stress fracture.
Very interesting.... Definitely a difficult area to image! Fingers crossed that she continues to improve for you. Thank you. Coming on here and reading the unsuccessful stories is so disheartening. Hoping I hear some positive ones
Have you tried shockwaving the area? May be difficult to penetrate to that depth but it may be worth a shot! |
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| barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 9:10 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 9:03 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 8:54 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-04-19 7:38 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2017-04-19 6:08 PM
How was the Psoas muscle injury diagnosed?
She had on going hock and stifle soreness. They did a rectal exam and felt swelling so they then did a rectal ultrasounded. You could see the inflammation of The psoas muscle and while they were there they found the stress fracture.
Very interesting.... Definitely a difficult area to image! Fingers crossed that she continues to improve for you. Thank you. Coming on here and reading the unsuccessful stories is so disheartening. Hoping I hear some positive ones
Have you tried shockwaving the area? May be difficult to penetrate to that depth but it may be worth a shot!
Yeah. Unfortunately it won't go deep enough. I'm working with a great lameness vet and he's recommending acupuncture for release of the muscle and some stretches. But most importantly keeping her rode lightly and rehabbing her slowly. If shock wave isn't going to go deep enough I'm not sure about other therapies either. I'm tossing the idea of red light or mega wave... But even with them, they have to go deep enough. |
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| I have a somewhat positive pelvis/psoas injury outcome for you. Horse fell, fractured pelvis and tore multiple muscles. Was deemed a pasture pet, then one day I said forget it Im just going to try again. Pelvis healed, battled the psoas pain for a LONG time. Magnawave is the only therapy that helps him. If he has a big weekend ahead of him we will put him on Robaxin. Honestly, I don't think the scarred muscle tissue will ever be 100%. He won't ever be an every weekend rodeo horse, but he can still race.
He won't ever be without the magnawave. I also was taught how to stretch him properly, so every day rain or shine he gets a 20-30 min stretch. Also, make sure your hind hooves are on point! He started acting sore one week...brought him in right away and vet suggested X-ray hooves. Sure enough we was negative. Fixed the angles and the pain was gone.
I tried a long list of therapies, so please feel free to message me if you want any input or suggestions for what personally worked for my boy.
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| turnedout - 2017-04-20 5:43 PM
I have a somewhat positive pelvis/psoas injury outcome for you. Horse fell, fractured pelvis and tore multiple muscles. Was deemed a pasture pet, then one day I said forget it Im just going to try again. Pelvis healed, battled the psoas pain for a LONG time. Magnawave is the only therapy that helps him. If he has a big weekend ahead of him we will put him on Robaxin. Honestly, I don't think the scarred muscle tissue will ever be 100%. He won't ever be an every weekend rodeo horse, but he can still race.
He won't ever be without the magnawave. I also was taught how to stretch him properly, so every day rain or shine he gets a 20-30 min stretch. Also, make sure your hind hooves are on point! He started acting sore one week...brought him in right away and vet suggested X-ray hooves. Sure enough we was negative. Fixed the angles and the pain was gone.
I tried a long list of therapies, so please feel free to message me if you want any input or suggestions for what personally worked for my boy.
Good luck!
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | turnedout - 2017-04-20 5:43 PM I have a somewhat positive pelvis/psoas injury outcome for you. Horse fell, fractured pelvis and tore multiple muscles. Was deemed a pasture pet, then one day I said forget it Im just going to try again. Pelvis healed, battled the psoas pain for a LONG time. Magnawave is the only therapy that helps him. If he has a big weekend ahead of him we will put him on Robaxin. Honestly, I don't think the scarred muscle tissue will ever be 100%. He won't ever be an every weekend rodeo horse, but he can still race. He won't ever be without the magnawave. I also was taught how to stretch him properly, so every day rain or shine he gets a 20-30 min stretch. Also, make sure your hind hooves are on point! He started acting sore one week...brought him in right away and vet suggested X-ray hooves. Sure enough we was negative. Fixed the angles and the pain was gone. I tried a long list of therapies, so please feel free to message me if you want any input or suggestions for what personally worked for my boy. Good luck!
This is so great to hear! |
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My horse was just diagnosed with a psoas injury... |
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| dRowe - 2018-10-10 5:35 PM
Any updates now????
My horse was just diagnosed with a psoas injury...
Hey. I hope everything is going ok with your horse. My horse has slowing started running again after almost 2 years. She is slow getting there. It was a long recovery. My best advice is your rehabilitation program. Work on strengthening their back and engaging the hind end so they pick up their feet. Lunging over ground poles, long and low (equiami and pessoa system while lunging), stretching, chiro work and like said above make sure his hind angles are right. My mare also has sacroiliac dysfunction so she gets her si injected and lumbar area done every 6 months.... Hoping to get to once a year. |
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| Mine has been sore since about April. I’ve had him looked at by 3 vets (2 practices). Nobody could figure it out until a few weeks ago. We weren’t sure if it was the psoas muscle or kissing spines (x-rays show KS but apparently many are non-symptomatic). So on Wednesday the vet ultrasounded the psoas and compared to the good side, the muscle is thicker and the color on the u/s was more inconsistent.
He responded well to bute a couple of weeks ago (felt back to 100% under saddle), but then we switched to previcox and he started moving stiff again.
We’re waiting on cellulitis to go away from a leg (unrelated) and then will start back on bute and a physical therapy exercise program.
Fingers crossed!!!!!! |
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| dRowe - 2018-10-12 6:48 AM
Mine has been sore since about April. I’ve had him looked at by 3 vets (2 practices). Nobody could figure it out until a few weeks ago. We weren’t sure if it was the psoas muscle or kissing spines (x-rays show KS but apparently many are non-symptomatic). So on Wednesday the vet ultrasounded the psoas and compared to the good side, the muscle is thicker and the color on the u/s was more inconsistent.
He responded well to bute a couple of weeks ago (felt back to 100% under saddle), but then we switched to previcox and he started moving stiff again.
We’re waiting on cellulitis to go away from a leg (unrelated) and then will start back on bute and a physical therapy exercise program.
Fingers crossed!!!!!!
My mare does better on bute when I run. I use previcox during the week. Sounds like your horse needs some time off? Or have they had this summer off already? |
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| He’s been off since July 2017. He injured his DDFT and while I was conditioning him back in April, he felt really stiff. We spent from April until now trying to figure out what the issue is.
I don’t know anybody around here (north GA) with a Bemer. We did try magnawave but it did nothing for him. |
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