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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | horse is eating fine, but has a sore neck. More so doesn't want to put it down. |
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Location: in the ozone | did the vet leave the horse's head "up" for a long time?
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Propping neck up after giving tranq and not giving horse enough breaks with a full spec.
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | slipperyslope - 2017-05-13 10:00 AM did the vet leave the horse's head "up" for a long time?
Not tied as they use a girl to help hold it, but he did want to hold it up himself most of the time. I prefer that over the chance of over sedation. I have used them so many times with so many horses and never had an issue. But he is still very sore in his neck, mostly to put it down low. He can do side to side but slow about it. He is on stall rest and Bute. I see improvement every day, but it is still bothering me. He acts like I do when I sleep wrong and get a sore neck.
I was wondering if they can have short term muscle soreness or nerve damage. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2017-05-13 10:20 AM Propping neck up after giving tranq and not giving horse enough breaks with a full spec.
what can be done to help him if this is the case? just time? chiro? |
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I just read the headlines
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| Call the person who floated his teeth and ask them. I have found that people good at their job are willing to answer questions and help you if they can. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | GLP - 2017-05-13 10:23 AM Call the person who floated his teeth and ask them. I have found that people good at their job are willing to answer questions and help you if they can.
I did as soon as I got home and she was very helpful. Put a call in again today and waiting for her to call back when she is done with her customer. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 11:22 AM Nevertooold - 2017-05-13 10:20 AM Propping neck up after giving tranq and not giving horse enough breaks with a full spec.
what can be done to help him if this is the case? just time? chiro?
I would give NutraWound, rub his neck down with a liniment and see if you can get a massage therapist to work on him. I would also check his TMJ spots and his atlas. The soreness could be coming more from his atlas then his actual neck. |
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I just read the headlines
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 11:26 AM
GLP - 2017-05-13 10:23 AM Call the person who floated his teeth and ask them. I have found that people good at their job are willing to answer questions and help you if they can.
I did as soon as I got home and she was very helpful. Put a call in again today and waiting for her to call back when she is done with her customer.
Cool! I hope you get it figured out. Could you let us know how he goes? |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2017-05-13 10:31 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 11:22 AM Nevertooold - 2017-05-13 10:20 AM Propping neck up after giving tranq and not giving horse enough breaks with a full spec.
what can be done to help him if this is the case? just time? chiro?
NTO can you tell me more about this atlas? I am taking a short class this summer to do some massage on my own horses...and of course he is the horse I was going to take.
Edited by wyoming barrel racer 2017-05-13 11:45 AM
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 11:40 AM Nevertooold - 2017-05-13 10:31 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 11:22 AM Nevertooold - 2017-05-13 10:20 AM Propping neck up after giving tranq and not giving horse enough breaks with a full spec.
what can be done to help him if this is the case? just time? chiro?
NTO can you tell me more about this atlas? I am taking a short class this summer to do some massage on my own horses...and of course he is the horse I was going to take.
You need to see it rather then trying to explain it.
I'll go find some links to videos and I will send them to you.
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would say time will take care of it as it could be as simple as just getting a kink in his neck but anything else could just speed up the process. I'm always sore after a dental appointment and some horses are the same way. Him eating fine is huge. |
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| Depending on how bad his teeth were he may be out in his neck and need to see a chiropractor to adjust him, like if he'd been compensating for a hang up in his jaw. I usually try and get mine chiropracted following a teeth float. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I had one do this and I would run cool water over his sore neck a tiny bit of bute to take the edge off but just a tiny bit like a gram cause I didnt want him feeling to good and really mess himself up thinking he was better, but I did this for like 5 days in a roll and then after he was doing really better, I had him ciro like 2 weeks after and then he was all find and back to being a goober..
How long has he been sore? |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-13 12:18 PM I had one do this and I would run cool water over his sore neck a tiny bit of bute to take the edge off but just a tiny bit like a gram cause I didnt want him feeling to good and really mess himself up thinking he was better, but I did this for like 5 days in a roll and then after he was doing really better, I had him ciro like 2 weeks after and then he was all find and back to being a goober..
How long has he been sore?
he was just eating his alfalfa leaves off the floor, he is slow about it, but he was literally as low as he can go. Each day is improvement...but of course my first show of the year is next weekend and it is not looking good for him to be 100% and me back to riding him to get ready. I've got a vet appt for Tues. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 1:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-13 12:18 PM I had one do this and I would run cool water over his sore neck a tiny bit of bute to take the edge off but just a tiny bit like a gram cause I didnt want him feeling to good and really mess himself up thinking he was better, but I did this for like 5 days in a roll and then after he was doing really better, I had him ciro like 2 weeks after and then he was all find and back to being a goober..
How long has he been sore? he was just eating his alfalfa leaves off the floor, he is slow about it, but he was literally as low as he can go. Each day is improvement...but of course my first show of the year is next weekend and it is not looking good for him to be 100% and me back to riding him to get ready. I've got a vet appt for Tues.
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-13 12:33 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-13 1:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-13 12:18 PM I had one do this and I would run cool water over his sore neck a tiny bit of bute to take the edge off but just a tiny bit like a gram cause I didnt want him feeling to good and really mess himself up thinking he was better, but I did this for like 5 days in a roll and then after he was doing really better, I had him ciro like 2 weeks after and then he was all find and back to being a goober..
How long has he been sore? he was just eating his alfalfa leaves off the floor, he is slow about it, but he was literally as low as he can go. Each day is improvement...but of course my first show of the year is next weekend and it is not looking good for him to be 100% and me back to riding him to get ready. I've got a vet appt for Tues.
I have his water and hay all up high as well. I kept some extra in a corner tub and when his tub up high ran low I used it to refill. Last night I noticed he cleaned up the corner one on his own last night and eating the alfalfa leaves off the floor is another big improvement. I used sore no more the first couple days and then switched to THE Thiamoxide which they no longer sell. I used it when I was bucked off against a pipe round pen and really messed my back up. The stuff smells horrible but works wonders. My horses have the worst timing! |
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Location: Arkansas | Please let us know how he's doing. |
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Location: Windoming | I had a vet cause nerve damage to my horse after giving him the anesthetic in his neck. Of course, it didn't manifest until that night, so when I called the vet about it, he said it didn't happen at his clinic. It was awful. I don't go there any more. I could have accepted that he made a mistake, but I couldn't accept that he wouldn't take responsibility. I thought he ruined my horse, but he did recover. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Silly Filly - 2017-05-14 6:43 PM I had a vet cause nerve damage to my horse after giving him the anesthetic in his neck. Of course, it didn't manifest until that night, so when I called the vet about it, he said it didn't happen at his clinic. It was awful. I don't go there any more. I could have accepted that he made a mistake, but I couldn't accept that he wouldn't take responsibility. I thought he ruined my horse, but he did recover.
Oh yikes! Glad it did recover, how long did it take? |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-14 7:49 PM Silly Filly - 2017-05-14 6:43 PM I had a vet cause nerve damage to my horse after giving him the anesthetic in his neck. Of course, it didn't manifest until that night, so when I called the vet about it, he said it didn't happen at his clinic. It was awful. I don't go there any more. I could have accepted that he made a mistake, but I couldn't accept that he wouldn't take responsibility. I thought he ruined my horse, but he did recover. Oh yikes! Glad it did recover, how long did it take?
How is your boy doing this evening? |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-14 6:58 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-14 7:49 PM Silly Filly - 2017-05-14 6:43 PM I had a vet cause nerve damage to my horse after giving him the anesthetic in his neck. Of course, it didn't manifest until that night, so when I called the vet about it, he said it didn't happen at his clinic. It was awful. I don't go there any more. I could have accepted that he made a mistake, but I couldn't accept that he wouldn't take responsibility. I thought he ruined my horse, but he did recover. Oh yikes! Glad it did recover, how long did it take?
Each day is better, he can eat off the ground and drink out of the water tank, but he's still not 100%. I'll find out Tues what is going on. I have done non stop research on his symptoms and asked vets and massage/chiros as well and I am really leaning towards him being out in his poll or TMJ which I know zip about. He doesn't want his right ear messed with which is very unlike him. I can clip his ears inside and out with out any twitch or restraint. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-14 9:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-05-14 6:58 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-05-14 7:49 PM Silly Filly - 2017-05-14 6:43 PM I had a vet cause nerve damage to my horse after giving him the anesthetic in his neck. Of course, it didn't manifest until that night, so when I called the vet about it, he said it didn't happen at his clinic. It was awful. I don't go there any more. I could have accepted that he made a mistake, but I couldn't accept that he wouldn't take responsibility. I thought he ruined my horse, but he did recover. Oh yikes! Glad it did recover, how long did it take?
The guy I really like doing my floats will check their poll after he finishes with the floating, he will put them back in if he sees the need to.. just the norm for this fella to check and thats what I really like about him sure do miss having working on my horses, I have a Vet that is also a equine dentist, but I hav'nt notice if he checks them are not, I need to pay more attention next time I use him.. |
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Location: South Central Florida | We have a mare that has won and won 1D money on the State and National level. Teeth done every year since we owned her. A few years ago a newer vet did her teeth and told me she should be being done every 6 months. It was a vet that specialised in teeth and was a mobile unit. I had seen a few horses done and seemed good. My regular guy was unavailable for a year or two. This new bet started calling me at 4 months and drove me kind of crazy.
Right away we had no problems we were aware of. About 2 months later she started having jaw problems. Chiropractor checked her, made adjustments and said she had TMJ. Another 2 months and it was worse. With in 6 months her jaw was being injected (which I never heard of). At 10 months I was able to get an appointment with my regular guy and have not had a problem since then.
It took me way longer to realize it was probably related to the float, than it should have. I never had any confirmation other than no problems since and I think the mobile vet went out of business.....
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Location: Florida.. | swan.....one of our mares same thing happened.. new equine dentist and within a week the mare was chomping at bit, avoiding it and rattling it.. we knew something was off.. we had chiro and accunpuncture and vet looked at her.. we determined TMJ and her poll was out to. our reg guy came and re did her teeth because the other had done a bad job aligning them properly.. it took 5 months to get her going again.. she went from a 6yr old 2nd level 45,000 horse to a 1st level and sold her for 28,000 ... disclosed all issues .. but a very nice lil mare and with time would recover well.
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Well we are off to the vet tomorrow afternoon. He was able to lay down and soak up some sun today, but when he got up it looked like I do when I have a kink in my neck and try and sit up. You could tell it was uncomfortable. After reading this article, I am leaning towards TMJ being the issue. http://thenaturallyhealthyhorse.com/tmj-disorders-horses/
The vet that did his teeth came by today to look at him, we are an hour from her office so it was very kind of her to swing by while she was out our way. I wasn't here to show her some of the things I notice, but she wants a full report when I get back from the big clinic. |
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what kind of issues can come up AFTER a dental float?