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 Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | Through the years I've had horses here and there develop small ones randomly. Never larger than a dime, and always stayed the same size.
Well, I have a gelding currently (15yo) that I've had for 2 years. In this time he has developed quite a few, and some different textures. He has the flat, rough skin type, small "typical" ones, and a couple large ones. In the past year the biggest have continuously grown.
My vet is going to come freeze them all. He wants to remove the biggest, but they're both in his flank and will be difficult to heal. So he said we'll try freezing and hope it at least stops it from growing. He said it was very strange the number he has on him...
Anybody know what causes them? Or any old cowboy remedies to try? Anybody have a similar horse? |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Roping pen | We've had 100% success rate on approx. a dozen or so using XXTERRA. Just google it. Is a paste that burns them off. Will not harm live skin tissue. Takes a month or more but none grew back.
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | Thank you I'll look into that!!
It's concerning to me that he has so many. He has a large rough patch on his cheek that is starting to develop very small nubs. And another patch like that that on his belly. Tons of small sarcoids all over, and the flank is just crazy. His entire left flank is full of scaly rough skin, and several tumors. 2 that are very big. They don't bother him.
My vet didn't seem overly worried, but did say we have to get them off. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | Has anyone used the products offered by "Balanced Eco Solutions?"
They have 2 salve options and herbal supplements.
It says their product doesn't burn like Xxterra...
They have a pretty decent success rate as well.
And it seems they can actually contract a virus from cattle that will cause sarcoids. This horse has lived in close proximity to cattle his entire life. We have cattle but none in our herd have an issue with warts, which is how the virus shows in cows. |
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| I have heard that sometimes treatment makes them spread. A family friend tried it and they duplicated. I was always told if they don't bother them, leave them alone.
However, I had a gelding with one on his chin and the chin strap rubbed on it and it would explode. We surgically removed it and it never came back. |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| My gelding had 2 flatter sarcoids on his cheek. It was summer and my vet said to use the exterra cream but wait til winter so flies won't be an issue. I was told the xterra cream burns and horses hate it. I read where crest paste toothpaste has sometimes worked so I gave it a try. I smeared it on twice a day and in a month they were gone, no open sores, no pain. That was years ago and they have not come back. |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | We have a mare that was diagnosed with 3 all on face or upper neck. A Homeopathic/Accupuncturist Vet (a real DVM but uses all) treated with something she fed her, and then treated with accupuncture. They were gone in about 3 months and never came back, been about 6 or 7 years ago.
We also had a grade mare the kids rode that had one that was right on her butt cheek just below the tail head. It started like a wart and grew for several years to the size of a golfball. We finally had to have it surgically removed but it had deep roots and turned into a longer than expected surgery. It was a general vet, not a specialist so I always wondered if it was really something else. She healed great, he sent it off for biopsy and it was clean and it never came back. She probably lived another 10 or 12 years.
Always wondered what caused them, I would love to know.
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| I read a thread on here once that said to fix them from the inside out. My mare had a half dollar size one on her neck. When I bought her I put her on a good feed regimen and it went away within a year. It is still gone 5 years later. |
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | dashnlotti - 2017-05-15 6:04 PM Has anyone used the products offered by "Balanced Eco Solutions?" They have 2 salve options and herbal supplements. It says their product doesn't burn like Xxterra... They have a pretty decent success rate as well. And it seems they can actually contract a virus from cattle that will cause sarcoids. This horse has lived in close proximity to cattle his entire life. We have cattle but none in our herd have an issue with warts, which is how the virus shows in cows.
I am actually using this right now. Started last week. And it seems to be working. I will see if I can post some pics tonight when I am on my personal laptop. Never know how to from my phone... (pics need resizing and I have no clue how to do that on the phone...)
My boy has 2 of them over his right eye.1 was very small and the other one was a little smaller than a dime. Took him in to have it cheched out. The vet wasn't worried about the sarcoid itself, only the position of it. If it were to grow bigger there would not be a lot of skin to work with if it had to be removed. So when I was talking about it with a friend of mine, she told me about the Balanced Eco Solutions. If I can get rid of it without cutting I am all for it!! Figured it wouldn't hurt (well, except my wallet maybe... ) to try it out.
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| cranky B4 10am - 2017-05-16 7:03 AM
dashnlotti - 2017-05-15 6:04 PM Has anyone used the products offered by "Balanced Eco Solutions?" They have 2 salve options and herbal supplements. It says their product doesn't burn like Xxterra... They have a pretty decent success rate as well. And it seems they can actually contract a virus from cattle that will cause sarcoids. This horse has lived in close proximity to cattle his entire life. We have cattle but none in our herd have an issue with warts, which is how the virus shows in cows.
I am actually using this right now. Started last week. And it seems to be working. I will see if I can post some pics tonight when I am on my personal laptop. Never know how to from my phone... (pics need resizing and I have no clue how to do that on the phone...)
My boy has 2 of them over his right eye.1 was very small and the other one was a little smaller than a dime. Took him in to have it cheched out. The vet wasn't worried about the sarcoid itself, only the position of it. If it were to grow bigger there would not be a lot of skin to work with if it had to be removed. So when I was talking about it with a friend of mine, she told me about the Balanced Eco Solutions. If I can get rid of it without cutting I am all for it!! Figured it wouldn't hurt (well, except my wallet maybe...) to try it out.
This is a very interesting thread. Please keep us posted on your results. I have a horse with one on his shoulder and neck. Not sure how to proceed in treatment. I like hearing about everyone's experiences! |
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 Sorry I don't have any advice
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Location: Sunnyland Florida |
I've been told that a weakened immume system causes them. My mare had an under-the-skin sarcoid on her neck that was bigger than a golf ball. It was gone after the following treatment (and just a few dollars):
Thuja, Turmeric and Lysine.
Thuja can be found in health food stores (small bottle of little pellets), buy organic turmeric and pure lysine can be ordered from Valley Vet, Jeffers, etc.
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 Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I have heard also that a weak immune system can cause them. My big mare developed them a few years ago about the same time she was having some on and off lameness issues after coming apart in the trailer. I put everyone on Forco and I noticed about a month later her big flat type ones on the inside of her gaskin and one under her throat latch were almost gone and the big one that had been starting to bug her on her ear was also drying up and starting to flop around. I had that one removed as it was really bugging her flopping around like it was. None of them have returned and that has been 5 years. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | If true sarcoids, they have a chance of spreading if removed. The xxterra(sp) to me didn't hurt my horse, but it did leave a small mark. So, the vet and I did an experiment. He had me use the xxterra on one horse and I used plain old blue crest toothpaste on another. The toothpaste took it off. And, left no mark. His thought process now (the vet) is, we try the toothpaste for a month. If it works great, if not, do the xxterra. It can't hurt. |
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 Lived to tell about it and will never do it again
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| My horse had one on his belly that interfeared with the back cinch. It was bigger then a half dollar with a rough surface that stuck out. I put the crest tooth paste on it a few times. I would reapply when the previous application was gone. You can't even tell where it was once at. The only thing I would do differently is to shave the area first. He had his winter hair so it got pretty messy but sure worked.
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Location: West Texas | xxterra paste along with an immune booster. I used silver lining. My horse had them all over his body and he has been years now without any more. Xxterra does make them hurt though. There was no riding him for the couple months we treated the sarcoids. |
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Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | cranky B4 10am - 2017-05-16 7:03 AM dashnlotti - 2017-05-15 6:04 PM Has anyone used the products offered by "Balanced Eco Solutions?" They have 2 salve options and herbal supplements. It says their product doesn't burn like Xxterra... They have a pretty decent success rate as well. And it seems they can actually contract a virus from cattle that will cause sarcoids. This horse has lived in close proximity to cattle his entire life. We have cattle but none in our herd have an issue with warts, which is how the virus shows in cows. I am actually using this right now. Started last week. And it seems to be working. I will see if I can post some pics tonight when I am on my personal laptop. Never know how to from my phone... (pics need resizing and I have no clue how to do that on the phone...)
My boy has 2 of them over his right eye.1 was very small and the other one was a little smaller than a dime. Took him in to have it cheched out. The vet wasn't worried about the sarcoid itself, only the position of it. If it were to grow bigger there would not be a lot of skin to work with if it had to be removed. So when I was talking about it with a friend of mine, she told me about the Balanced Eco Solutions. If I can get rid of it without cutting I am all for it!! Figured it wouldn't hurt (well, except my wallet maybe...) to try it out.
Been a while since I tried this, and it didn't work.
So now I am going to find me some crest and maybe that will work. I also started him on the SLH's immune. So hopefullly if we tackle it from inside and outside it will get rid of the sarcoid. |
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| The crest worked amazingly on my horse, took about 3 1/2 months to totally get rid of them. Not even a scar. |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | I used the Crest on a small one on the side of my mare's face. It took about 3-4 months and it is now almost gone. She has a large one between her front legs that sticks out about an inch. It began growing and I put the Crest on it and the new growth fell off. It is now back to the size it was when I first got her and I'm going to start applying the Crest every few days to see it will get rid of one this size. |
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Porta Potty Pants
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| have the crest toothpaste to start but did order xxterra. My horse has one in his flank area. Not really excited about the xxterra because I was told it can make them sore. |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Georgia | My vet recommended Aldera Cream. I got it from my local pharmacy. I used it daily for 7 days. It made the area(stifle) a little puffy and tender but didn’t effect her while riding. It two roughly a month for it too look like normal skin again. I repeated this treatment twice about 6 months apart and it hasn’t came back since and it’s been over a year since her last treatment. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | Well since this got bumped back up, I'll update!!
Ended up ordering the Xxterra.
Did the 4 days and wait method...and I thought I killed off my horse it was so gross. I decided it would take months if I did one at a time, so I attacked ALL of them at once for quicker recovery...
One refused to budge through 2 treatments and is now bigger than it was.
One fell off almost immediately and hasn't returned months later.
The huge ones in his flank? After the 2nd treatment they fell off. They're currently back to nearly the same size pre-treatment.
The flatter, scaly type? The scars are uglier than the sarcoids ever were.
Some healed very quickly, some are STILL not fully healed. I will say there was never any infection at all, no odor, and he didn't seem to be in pain at any point.
After further reading, I think my mistake was doing it while the flies were still out. So after the first frost, I'm going to do the 2 in his flank ONE more time and see if they stay gone...It seems flies and gnats can make them spread/grow on an already infected horse, per a couple articles I found.
It may be something I have to do every winter if they keep growing, we'll see!! |
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Porta Potty Pants
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| dashnlotti - 2017-11-16 2:43 PM
Well since this got bumped back up, I'll update!!
Ended up ordering the Xxterra.
Did the 4 days and wait method...and I thought I killed off my horse it was so gross. I decided it would take months if I did one at a time, so I attacked ALL of them at once for quicker recovery...
One refused to budge through 2 treatments and is now bigger than it was.
One fell off almost immediately and hasn't returned months later.
The huge ones in his flank? After the 2nd treatment they fell off. They're currently back to nearly the same size pre-treatment.
The flatter, scaly type? The scars are uglier than the sarcoids ever were.
Some healed very quickly, some are STILL not fully healed. I will say there was never any infection at all, no odor, and he didn't seem to be in pain at any point.
After further reading, I think my mistake was doing it while the flies were still out. So after the first frost, I'm going to do the 2 in his flank ONE more time and see if they stay gone...It seems flies and gnats can make them spread/grow on an already infected horse, per a couple articles I found.
It may be something I have to do every winter if they keep growing, we'll see!!
I have the xxterra sitting on my counter. I'm reluctant to try it. My horse was abused and he is still wary of people. I've been warned it will make them sore and his is in the flank area. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | azsun - 2017-11-16 4:30 PM
dashnlotti - 2017-11-16 2:43 PM
Well since this got bumped back up, I'll update!!
Ended up ordering the Xxterra.
Did the 4 days and wait method...and I thought I killed off my horse it was so gross. I decided it would take months if I did one at a time, so I attacked ALL of them at once for quicker recovery...
One refused to budge through 2 treatments and is now bigger than it was.
One fell off almost immediately and hasn't returned months later.
The huge ones in his flank? After the 2nd treatment they fell off. They're currently back to nearly the same size pre-treatment.
The flatter, scaly type? The scars are uglier than the sarcoids ever were.
Some healed very quickly, some are STILL not fully healed. I will say there was never any infection at all, no odor, and he didn't seem to be in pain at any point.
After further reading, I think my mistake was doing it while the flies were still out. So after the first frost, I'm going to do the 2 in his flank ONE more time and see if they stay gone...It seems flies and gnats can make them spread/grow on an already infected horse, per a couple articles I found.
It may be something I have to do every winter if they keep growing, we'll see!!
I have the xxterra sitting on my counter. I'm reluctant to try it. My horse was abused and he is still wary of people. I've been warned it will make them sore and his is in the flank area.
The extent of his pain, was when I touched it, he would flinch. And he's already a jumpy horse. He never moved away from me, never pinned his ears, etc. I also gave him time off bc I know riding and stretching the area most likely would have made it painful.
I'm actually surprised he didn't show more pain...
Part of me wishes I had left them alone, but the other part knows they were steadily growing. It was to the point I had to do something, and that seemed like the best option after all my research.
My vet thinks he has some underlying immune issue going on, although the sarcoids seem to be the only thing "wrong" with him, just because of the number of them. From his head to his tail, I burned off 7 and missed 1 (a tiny one on his butt cheek). That 7 isn't including patches where there were multiple lumps.
The Xxterra seemed to work best on the small, typical sarcoids. Those fell off quickly and didn't seem to leave a scar, if there is one, it's covered by hair. The more scaly type are what scarred the worst-where the skin was already ugly.
Would I do it again??
Yes, although I would wait until winter when there is one less hassle with the flies and gnats.
And I probably would let a few of them just be for a while, instead of attacking them all. |
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