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Location: texas | Help please.....
This mare is driving me nuts.....
Had her 2 months and she is destroying my barn and herself
Put her on Mare Magic when i got her back on 3-17-17, helped her to be nicer and not stand n corner pouting....
Her teats are swelling up like cantaloupes, she is rubbing her hips raw......
She has kicked at me, thrown me, bit me, drug me thru sand...
She is only 6 and a dtr of Toast To Dash, i have her loping the barrels, but her attitude stinks....
She had a foal last year, w previous owner......
Headed to vet at 0900 n the am.....
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | teamthompson - 2017-05-16 3:04 PM Help please..... This mare is driving me nuts..... Had her 2 months and she is destroying my barn and herself Put her on Mare Magic when i got her back on 3-17-17, helped her to be nicer and not stand n corner pouting.... Her teats are swelling up like cantaloupes, she is rubbing her hips raw...... She has kicked at me, thrown me, bit me, drug me thru sand... She is only 6 and a dtr of Toast To Dash, i have her loping the barrels, but her attitude stinks.... She had a foal last year, w previous owner...... Headed to vet at 0900 n the am..... Need advice....
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Location: Pittsburg, Texas 75686 | They have a heat cycle shot. It last 30 days.....and works great. It's well worth the money for the shot. |
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Location: texas | Someone told me there is an IMPLANT????? Goes n neck???
Heard of this?????
What about progesterone shot????
Implant the Marble????
I am not gonna breed her, need her to run.....
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-16 3:36 PM REGUMATE REGUMATE REGUMATE!!!
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Location: texas | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-16 3:36 PM
REGUMATE REGUMATE REGUMATE!!!
Isnt it expensive????? $250.00
How often is it given?????
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I agree, Regumate. I have tried shots in the past, and the only thing that gave me consistent results was Regumate. I currently have one on it and it's not a big deal. You can buy a gun and squirt it in their mouth or use a syringe. I just squirt it in the grain, mine cleans it up like she doesn't even know it's there. It is a little pricey for the bottle, but you only give 10cc daily so a bottle lasts awhile. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I had progesterone pellets put into my mares chest a bit over a week ago. It doesn't take away the heat cycle, but has made her more manageable and comfortable. She also has one teat that looks like your mares. Vet didn't say it was abnormal. No mastitis. |
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Location: texas | Rode her this evening for about 30 minutes, just walked pasture
Vet says he wants to give her the lutalyse to make her ovulate and take the heat off, so guess we will see when i get there in the morning....
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| IRunOnFaith - 2017-05-16 1:52 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-05-16 3:36 PM REGUMATE REGUMATE REGUMATE!!!
What was that again Flit????
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I am so very sorry if I was yelling but I feel that strongly about regumate. When you have one that bad, like I do, herbals and OTC crap is a waste of money. They need medication !!! Lol |
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| teamthompson - 2017-05-16 1:55 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-05-16 3:36 PM
REGUMATE REGUMATE REGUMATE!!!
Isnt it expensive????? $250.00
How often is it given?????
Yes it is!! BUT......... I made sacrifices so I didn't have to see my mare banging and trying to hurt herself in pain from something I could fix. You give it 10cc daily. One bottle lasts 100 days. |
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Location: texas | If they place the marble in the uterus, dont they sew up the cervix???
They do that in humans when the cervix is incompetent...
Never had this problem before, my other mares are like geldings....
Now what are progesterone pellets?????
I thought u could give a progesterone shot????? Mistaken????? |
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Location: Too far from home | Please know I've been out of the breeding business for a few years now, but:
Regumate is something given every day. I had a nasty mare that it didn't work with. It is expensive. You shouldn't get it on your skin.
P2 is a form of progesterone that can be injected. It is oily and will make the injectionn site sore. We used it in breeding animals, but isn't great for competition as they may be sore.
Aldosterone is an injectible that works as a counter-agent (I think - maybe cooperative agent) to progesterone. It has to be compounded and is expensive ($250-280/month so on par with Regumate) I found this to work well.
Marbleing can work, but must be done by an experienced vet as you must get it in during the exact right moments in the cycle. This is difficult & may take several cycles and still might not work.
Mares can get stuck in transition and ovulate non-stop. Lute them.
Thats what I've got for you. I love mares. I've hauled many mares & never had trouble. I always just shook my head at people that said they liked geldings and that I obviously had never had a "bad" mare. Well, I've got one now. Very talented, but will pee on herlself non-stop and ulcerates between her butt checks. I feel horrible for her. She's not evil or mean, just miserable. The aldosterone worked.
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Location: texas | Thank you everyone
This is my first time dealing w this...
Just wanted to be prepared when i get to the vet this morning... |
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Location: Central Texas | I feel your pain! My first Spring owning a mare and I'm about to kill her unless she kills me first. Following for advice also. |
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| teamthompson - 2017-05-16 3:50 PM
Someone told me there is an IMPLANT????? Goes n neck???
Heard of this?????
What about progesterone shot????
Implant the Marble????
I am not gonna breed her, need her to run.....
Good luck with all of that. I went through this with two mares and NOTHING worked, including a double dose of Regumate daily. The one thing I couldn't get done was getting them bred and yours has already been through that.
Both of these mares had severe pain issues from retained, multiple follicles. I ended up spaying them both (about 15 years apart). Was the best thing I could do for their pain but it will NOT help crabby mare syndrome! The first mare was still crabby and would come in to heat anytime she met a new horse! But the pain was gone and she became the most honest, grittiest horse I have ever had the privilege to own/ride. I spayed her at 8 and buried her last year at age 30.
Warning...the implants may help her for maybe a season but will likely become ineffective after that and her problems will come back WORSE.
Seriously...good luck!
Edited to add...things I tried. Note. the first mare came to me having already had implants, however I did not discover that until way down the road.
Implants
Herbs
Regumate
Progesterone shots
Shots to make her ovulate, the vet would come back 3 days later and gently massage follicles off. Worked great for a couple of weeks then had to repeat the whole thing over the next heat cycle.
Accupunture
Breeding attempts
Double dose Regumate
A combo hormone shot weekly that that was recommended by Rood and Riddle
Marble
I am sure that I left something out. It can be a VERY frustrating process.
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Location: texas | Update......
Headed home from vet
He ultrasounded Rummy good news no cysts on ovaries, and she has ovulated
So straight regumate for her for 100 days then a 30 day break then back on.....
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| teamthompson - 2017-05-17 10:56 AM
Update......
Headed home from vet
He ultrasounded Rummy good news no cysts on ovaries, and she has ovulated
So straight regumate for her for 100 days then a 30 day break then back on.....
Interested in why you would need 30 days off regumate and not just keep the horse on it? My vet has me keep mine on it from February to December 1. Then off Dec/Jan. Just curious thanks! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-17 1:29 PM teamthompson - 2017-05-17 10:56 AM Update...... Headed home from vet He ultrasounded Rummy good news no cysts on ovaries, and she has ovulated So straight regumate for her for 100 days then a 30 day break then back on..... Interested in why you would need 30 days off regumate and not just keep the horse on it? My vet has me keep mine on it from February to December 1. Then off Dec/Jan. Just curious thanks!
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| krape - 2017-05-16 3:27 PM They have a heat cycle shot. It last 30 days.....and works great. It's well worth the money for the shot.
What 30 day shot is this? I just gave my mare a 12 day Altrenogest shot. |
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Location: texas | FLITASTIC - 2017-05-17 1:29 PM
teamthompson - 2017-05-17 10:56 AM
Update......
Headed home from vet
He ultrasounded Rummy good news no cysts on ovaries, and she has ovulated
So straight regumate for her for 100 days then a 30 day break then back on.....
Interested in why you would need 30 days off regumate and not just keep the horse on it? My vet has me keep mine on it from February to December 1. Then off Dec/Jan. Just curious thanks!
He said she needs to cycle then go back on it....
Like i said, this is my first time dealing w all this, i have no clue lol...
Trying to educate myself....
He said to take her off Mare Magic, its just a waste of money.... |
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| teamthompson - 2017-05-17 1:16 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-05-17 1:29 PM
teamthompson - 2017-05-17 10:56 AM
Update......
Headed home from vet
He ultrasounded Rummy good news no cysts on ovaries, and she has ovulated
So straight regumate for her for 100 days then a 30 day break then back on.....
Interested in why you would need 30 days off regumate and not just keep the horse on it? My vet has me keep mine on it from February to December 1. Then off Dec/Jan. Just curious thanks!
He said she needs to cycle then go back on it....
Like i said, this is my first time dealing w all this, i have no clue lol...
Trying to educate myself....
He said to take her off Mare Magic, its just a waste of money....
Thanks for the explanation. My vet has me start my mare in February BEFORE she EVER has a heat cycle. SHe has tiny minny ones every month but its like a little pacing etc. Nobody would ever notice but me.. Before she would Bump and grind on anything she could get her hips on. |
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Location: California | GrahamKayleigh - 2017-05-18 12:30 PM
krape - 2017-05-16 3:27 PM They have a heat cycle shot. It last 30 days.....and works great. It's well worth the money for the shot.
What 30 day shot is this? I just gave my mare a 12 day Altrenogest shot.
The 30 day shot is also manufactured by BET Pharm but has to be shipped overnight. It's more economical to do the 12 day shot. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | teamthompson - 2017-05-17 3:16 PM FLITASTIC - 2017-05-17 1:29 PM teamthompson - 2017-05-17 10:56 AM Update...... Headed home from vet He ultrasounded Rummy good news no cysts on ovaries, and she has ovulated So straight regumate for her for 100 days then a 30 day break then back on..... Interested in why you would need 30 days off regumate and not just keep the horse on it? My vet has me keep mine on it from February to December 1. Then off Dec/Jan. Just curious thanks! He said she needs to cycle then go back on it.... Like i said, this is my first time dealing w all this, i have no clue lol... Trying to educate myself.... He said to take her off Mare Magic, its just a waste of money....
Because if you keep them on it all spring, summer, and fall and never let them cycle it can come back to bite you in the butt if you ever go to breed her. ALOT of reproductive problems in mares are due to hormone therapies. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Bibliafarm - 2017-05-19 9:49 PM Regumate is the only thing i have found that works and yes it is expensive but worth it.dont get it on you if your child bearing age.. wear gloves
I just ordered my first bottle... I'm past the child hearing ago, so
if I accidentally get some on me or my man gets some on him we will be ok, right? It can abort if you are pregnant, correct? |
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| I'm in the same boat as you. This was a great question. My vet suggested Regu-Mate but said I could stop in the Fall. My question is what happens if you miss a day? Also when I stop in the Fall will she be in pain? I am also new with this because this is the first season she has been a ragin fluzzie!!! She is such a sweet and trying lil gal and I don't want her to be in pain and I would like a little calm around the place. |
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| Saw this was bumped back up from May. Mine is still on Regumate but she bagged up about 2 weeks ago and looked just like the picture on page 1 of the thread! LOL Vet said just keep going on regumate. Its all good. She is pretty much back to normal now |
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