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| Just came up on my FB feed and they are based in oregon but have dealers near me. Have been looking over their site and I like the concept. ANything natural has to be better. Its pretty pricey at 39.95 for a 40lb bag and I am waiting to see what the feed rate is. price point is close to renew gold. Just found it and wondered what everyone thought.
http://wildfedhorse.com/
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Location: Texas | I don't know...I get sucked into some of the new ideas, then I think about my 28 yo gelding, who has eaten pellets for most of his life.  |
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Location: Deep South | The feeding rate is listed on the website.
http://wildfedhorse.com/wild-fed-horse-feed-instructions
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Location: California | It looks like someone took the Crypto Aero idea and possibly did it better.... lol. It looks interesting.... I didn't see where it says how much to feed though...
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| Its got a low NSC of 9% and is very calorie dense at 1800 cal/lb. It can be fed as sole ration at 10+ pounds per day OR as a supplement at 2-3 lbs. I would use it more as a supplement. I currently give my horses free choice timothy and alfalfa 2x daily. I mix vit/min and joint supplements in a small amount of Ultium. |
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Location: West Texas | The NSC would have to be much more than 9% (although not an issue with me) and no way it is anywhere near 1800 cal/lb. (about 1000 would be more in line). There is just no way to get those ingredients to do either one of those things. Feeding rate should be 6-10lbs per day. Quality ingredients.
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| Tdove - 2017-05-30 11:53 AM
The NSC would have to be much more than 9% (although not an issue with me) and no way it is anywhere near 1800 cal/lb. (about 1000 would be more in line). There is just no way to get those ingredients to do either one of those things. Feeding rate should be 6-10lbs per day. Quality ingredients. I don't really like the Omega profile of sunflower seeds, personally.
I just called the company to verify and it does in fact have 1800 cal/lb according to them. LOL Its a 30 min drive for me to get to the place that carries it so might pass on it for now, but looks like a nice natural feed. If you can, call them and see if they give you the same 1800 cal/lb quote on the phone.. It would be interesting. |
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| I make my own and looked at this feed never got to try it no close dealers, I used Crypto Aero for a while too but I have so many too feed that I did my own thing. I will tell you my horses are doing amazing on mine I feed 3 lbs a day. Love it. My mix is different from this but still along the same lines. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-05-30 1:29 PM
Its got a low NSC of 9% and is very calorie dense at 1800 cal/lb. It can be fed as sole ration at 10+ pounds per day OR as a supplement at 2-3 lbs. I would use it more as a supplement. I currently give my horses free choice timothy and alfalfa 2x daily. I mix vit/min and joint supplements in a small amount of Ultium.
I thought you fed TC senior? I recently put my personal horse on ultium and I really like what I'm seeing and how level headed he's been! I know for a fact the NSC level in the ultium is way less than what I was feeding him. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Tdove - 2017-05-30 1:53 PM
The NSC would have to be much more than 9% (although not an issue with me) and no way it is anywhere near 1800 cal/lb. (about 1000 would be more in line). There is just no way to get those ingredients to do either one of those things. Feeding rate should be 6-10lbs per day. Quality ingredients. I don't really like the Omega profile of sunflower seeds, personally.
I agree on the calorie count. Not as listed in the ingredients list, it is a fortified hay substitute. My guess would be around 1100 per pound. That is fine if you are in need of roughage substitute. This might be a nice product if you did not have access to quality roughage, and may be a good product if your horse has no teeth. Pretty expensive hay otherwise. Did you get a label that shows a guaranteed analysis? They don't seem to show that on the web site. At 8 pounds twice per day that is $16 per day. $480 per month. Wow. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | winwillows - 2017-05-30 6:26 PM Tdove - 2017-05-30 1:53 PM The NSC would have to be much more than 9% (although not an issue with me) and no way it is anywhere near 1800 cal/lb. (about 1000 would be more in line). There is just no way to get those ingredients to do either one of those things. Feeding rate should be 6-10lbs per day. Quality ingredients. I don't really like the Omega profile of sunflower seeds, personally. I agree on the calorie count. Not as listed in the ingredients list, it is a fortified hay substitute. My guess would be around 1100 per pound. That is fine if you are in need of roughage substitute. This might be a nice product if you did not have access to quality roughage, and may be a good product if your horse has no teeth. Pretty expensive hay otherwise. Did you get a label that shows a guaranteed analysis? They don't seem to show that on the web site. At 8 pounds twice per day that is $16 per day. $480 per month. Wow.
I wish companies like this one and CryptoAero would sell a mix that you could add to your own hay pellets or oats. Looks like a good feed but I can get hay pellets and nice, heavy oats much cheaper and that is mostly what you are buying with either of these feeds. |
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| want2chase3 - 2017-05-30 3:14 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-05-30 1:29 PM
Its got a low NSC of 9% and is very calorie dense at 1800 cal/lb. It can be fed as sole ration at 10+ pounds per day OR as a supplement at 2-3 lbs. I would use it more as a supplement. I currently give my horses free choice timothy and alfalfa 2x daily. I mix vit/min and joint supplements in a small amount of Ultium.
I thought you fed TC senior? I recently put my personal horse on ultium and I really like what I'm seeing and how level headed he's been! I know for a fact the NSC level in the ultium is way less than what I was feeding him.
My horses got extremely gassy on the TC!!!! They looked and felt good on it but all that gas. The ultium i feed way less and they are doing great! |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-05-30 11:37 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-05-30 3:14 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-05-30 1:29 PM
Its got a low NSC of 9% and is very calorie dense at 1800 cal/lb. It can be fed as sole ration at 10+ pounds per day OR as a supplement at 2-3 lbs. I would use it more as a supplement. I currently give my horses free choice timothy and alfalfa 2x daily. I mix vit/min and joint supplements in a small amount of Ultium.
I thought you fed TC senior? I recently put my personal horse on ultium and I really like what I'm seeing and how level headed he's been! I know for a fact the NSC level in the ultium is way less than what I was feeding him.
My horses got extremely gassy on the TC!!!! They looked and felt good on it but all that gas. The ultium i feed way less and they are doing great!
That's funny you mentioned the gas, I was feeding a skinny horse we got in the TC and he was so soooooo gassy on it! I only ran 1 bag thru him, he also had loose manure and as soon as I switched to the BB nature's blend he went back to normal. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | What would turn me off from it is all the talk of NON-GMO and Organic Marketing talk. It is just that MARKETING. They are going after the snowflakes with horses. |
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| BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 7:47 AM
What would turn me off from it is all the talk of NON-GMO and Organic Marketing talk. It is just that MARKETING. They are going after the snowflakes with horses.
Could you explain the marketing? Are you saying that these companies are lying about their products? I really need to do some more research but it gets confusing with both sides so aggressively screaming the other side is lying. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | They use these marketing tatics for people. There is no such thing as GMO oats, orchard grass, and timothy grass. So that means when they say they are useing NON-GMO this or that it is just marketing to the snowflake horse people. Also they say they are using organic red clover leaf and blossom and also organic dandelions. That just means that they are in the field when they are harvesting the hay. Everything plus the weeds in the hay field are organic.
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Location: North Dakota | It looks like a good feed if you don't have access to good pasture or hay. Otherwise a lot of those ingredients seem redundant, especially for the price. |
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| BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 9:37 AM
They use these marketing tatics for people. There is no such thing as GMO oats, orchard grass, and timothy grass. So that means when they say they are useing NON-GMO this or that it is just marketing to the snowflake horse people. Also they say they are using organic red clover leaf and blossom and also organic dandelions. That just means that they are in the field when they are harvesting the hay. Everything plus the weeds in the hay field are organic.
Thank you for explaining that. By organic, I thought they meant no pesticides or herbicides were used on the plants, is this wrong, too? |
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Location: Willows, CA | GLP - 2017-06-01 10:31 AM
BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 9:37 AM
They use these marketing tatics for people. There is no such thing as GMO oats, orchard grass, and timothy grass. So that means when they say they are useing NON-GMO this or that it is just marketing to the snowflake horse people. Also they say they are using organic red clover leaf and blossom and also organic dandelions. That just means that they are in the field when they are harvesting the hay. Everything plus the weeds in the hay field are organic.
Thank you for explaining that. By organic, I thought they meant no pesticides or herbicides were used on the plants, is this wrong, too?
It is true that there are no GMO Oats being commercially grown. As for the Organic term, that is a different deal where legal labeling is concerned. In the US, just because something is grown without the use of pesticides or herbicides does not allow you to call it "organic" on your label. The coconut meal that we use in our product is organically grown, but because multiple growers produce the coconuts and they would all need to be inspected and certified, we can not use that term. On the label discussed here, to be legal to call it organic, the production, storage, and lot identity would need to be certified to be able to claim that on the label. Some companies are pretty good at providing accurate, legal labels. Looking at what is claimed for calorie and NSC guarantee, without more information, I am not sure that those claims are accurate. As I said above, this may be a good product for horses that do not have good teeth, or access to good roughage. At a max of $16 per day per horse as a complete though, it seems pretty expensive. |
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| winwillows - 2017-06-01 11:56 AM
GLP - 2017-06-01 10:31 AM
BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 9:37 AM
They use these marketing tatics for people. There is no such thing as GMO oats, orchard grass, and timothy grass. So that means when they say they are useing NON-GMO this or that it is just marketing to the snowflake horse people. Also they say they are using organic red clover leaf and blossom and also organic dandelions. That just means that they are in the field when they are harvesting the hay. Everything plus the weeds in the hay field are organic.
Thank you for explaining that. By organic, I thought they meant no pesticides or herbicides were used on the plants, is this wrong, too?
It is true that there are no GMO Oats being commercially grown. As for the Organic term, that is a different deal where legal labeling is concerned. In the US, just because something is grown without the use of pesticides or herbicides does not allow you to call it "organic" on your label. The coconut meal that we use in our product is organically grown, but because multiple growers produce the coconuts and they would all need to be inspected and certified, we can not use that term. On the label discussed here, to be legal to call it organic, the production, storage, and lot identity would need to be certified to be able to claim that on the label. Some companies are pretty good at providing accurate, legal labels. Looking at what is claimed for calorie and NSC guarantee, without more information, I am not sure that those claims are accurate. As I said above, this may be a good product for horses that do not have good teeth, or access to good roughage. At a max of $16 per day per horse as a complete though, it seems pretty expensive.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 7:47 AM What would turn me off from it is all the talk of NON-GMO and Organic Marketing talk. It is just that MARKETING. They are going after the snowflakes with horses.
Agreed. Only one of the ingredients listed as non-GMO even has a GMO option and that's alfalfa. " Non-GMO Orchard Grass Non-GMO Alfalfa and Non-GMO Timothy Grass, Non-GMO Oats, Sunflower Seeds, Chia Seeds, Organic Dandelion Leaf, Organic Rosehips, Organic Red Clover leaf and blossom, Organic Probiotic, Trace Mineral Salt, Organic Selenium Yeast, Organic Zinc Methionate and Natural Source Vitamin E."
I see marketing gimmick. It's expensive hay with some seeds thrown in. You'd be better off feeding good quality hay/pasture and throwing your own seeds at them. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | GLP - 2017-06-01 10:31 AM BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 9:37 AM They use these marketing tatics for people. There is no such thing as GMO oats, orchard grass, and timothy grass. So that means when they say they are useing NON-GMO this or that it is just marketing to the snowflake horse people. Also they say they are using organic red clover leaf and blossom and also organic dandelions. That just means that they are in the field when they are harvesting the hay. Everything plus the weeds in the hay field are organic. Thank you for explaining that. By organic, I thought they meant no pesticides or herbicides were used on the plants, is this wrong, too?
Organic farming uses pesticides. That's the biggest myth around, that they don't, and totally burns my butt. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2017-06-01 12:53 PM
GLP - 2017-06-01 10:31 AM BS Hauler - 2017-05-31 9:37 AM They use these marketing tatics for people. There is no such thing as GMO oats, orchard grass, and timothy grass. So that means when they say they are useing NON-GMO this or that it is just marketing to the snowflake horse people. Also they say they are using organic red clover leaf and blossom and also organic dandelions. That just means that they are in the field when they are harvesting the hay. Everything plus the weeds in the hay field are organic. Thank you for explaining that. By organic, I thought they meant no pesticides or herbicides were used on the plants, is this wrong, too?
I wish I had the money and know how to grow my own food for us and the ponies so I would know 100% what I was putting in our bodies.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Here's the deal tho--our food supply is safer than it has ever been. Make good choices about nutrition and don't be afraid of modern agriculture. All those talking heads and organizations trying to scare you are trying to sell you something. |
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| Well bumping this back up. I'm going to try this feed for a month or 2. The ultium is just making my horses a little to high energy and this stuff is def a better option for their health ! |
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" Wild Fed" horse feed...