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| I’m in the process of rehabbing a horse recovering from a hind leg suspensory injury (proximal suspensory desmitis). This horse is very talented but he’s built with his hind legs camped under, and the vet said he was prone to this type of injury. A week prior to his injury I had been to the vet for suspected soreness. I had just started running him (was 4 at the time), and he had not been giving his best effort running home and when drilling him around barrels he would swish his tail and act kinda crabby. Vet xrayed his hocks, and we injected them. He tore his suspensory a week later during a run. He ultrasounded both hind legs and made the comment that the non-injured leg was somewhat large for a quarter horse, but he’s a big horse and it could be normal for him. I’m wondering if he’s had inflamed ligaments all along. ?? I’m nervous he is going to injure it again, or maybe he had and will continue to have chronic soreness there. I don’t usually go overboard with therapies, but now I’m looking into everything….BOT wraps, Runner’s Relief poultice, supplements with collagen for during his rehab and when he returns to running. So, are these products really going to help? What’s so special about the Runner’s Relief Poultice compared to others? I considered wrapping his legs after hard workouts and after running him (12 hours on 12 hours off) maybe 3-4 days/week tops. Would that do any good? Vet did a few rounds of shockwave therapy, but other than that, he hasn’t suggested anything for moving forward other than controlled exercise. | |
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| Mine was out a year with a 40% high tear on rear. I did PRP, sweat wrap with runner's relief at night, magnets during the day. I can't say how effective the RR's was compared to other sweats because that is all I use. I can tell you my vet was always amazed at how well he healed compared to his other PRP horses who had the same type of injury, my guy was way ahead of schedule and I was the only one who used RR. He was completely healed at 7 months, released to enter at 9 but I gave him an extra 3 month. Per my vet, I ice after every run. He never reinjured that one but 6 years later had a small tear on the other rear. I did the same treatment. | |
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| iheartrodeo - 2017-06-05 2:10 PM I’m in the process of rehabbing a horse recovering from a hind leg suspensory injury (proximal suspensory desmitis). This horse is very talented but he’s built with his hind legs camped under, and the vet said he was prone to this type of injury. A week prior to his injury I had been to the vet for suspected soreness. I had just started running him (was 4 at the time), and he had not been giving his best effort running home and when drilling him around barrels he would swish his tail and act kinda crabby. Vet xrayed his hocks, and we injected them. He tore his suspensory a week later during a run. He ultrasounded both hind legs and made the comment that the non-injured leg was somewhat large for a quarter horse, but he’s a big horse and it could be normal for him. I’m wondering if he’s had inflamed ligaments all along. ?? I’m nervous he is going to injure it again, or maybe he had and will continue to have chronic soreness there. I don’t usually go overboard with therapies, but now I’m looking into everything….BOT wraps, Runner’s Relief poultice, supplements with collagen for during his rehab and when he returns to running. So, are these products really going to help? What’s so special about the Runner’s Relief Poultice compared to others? I considered wrapping his legs after hard workouts and after running him (12 hours on 12 hours off) maybe 3-4 days/week tops. Would that do any good? Vet did a few rounds of shockwave therapy, but other than that, he hasn’t suggested anything for moving forward other than controlled exercise. So frustrating!!! How long ago was the tear diagnosed? Usually shockwave isn't recommended for an actual tear, more for inflammation/strains. Soft tissue repair treatments like IRAP and Stem Cells can speed up the regeneration of tissue and increase quality of tissue, As for other stuff- gahhh your guess is as good as mine. I hear BOT go either way, and I can't imagine the kind of heat they produce is good for tendons/suspesories? I do love Runners Relief/Green Jelly, I am going to start using that under standing wraps when I haul and post run, along with soft rides. My vet swears my his Acuvet cold/hot laser, we have one and I am going to start using it again Also just heard about Equinety, it's an amino acid/collagen supplement, going to try that for 30 days and see. It's pretty economical, 90 bucks for 90 days. Also, my old boss (lamess vet) would always say he NEVER long trotted his horses because of the stress it puts on tendons and ligaments in deep sand. I stick to this advice to this day! Only long trot in the pasture
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| Very frustrating. Happened about 5 months ago. Horse was immediatedly lame after a run. Went directly to the vet. Vet would never say the word tear, he just kept saying fiber disruption. I did some research intially, and TIME was what I kept seeing for complete healing. Vet said stall rest initially followed by controlled exercise built up over time. So, I didn't really looking into therapies and what not. Now that I'm riding him, I'm just getting more nervous about it and kicking myself for not looking into it more sooner. Maybe its too late for some? Maybe I should have gone to another vet. Ugh.
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-06-05 2:21 PM Mine was out a year with a 40% high tear on rear. I did PRP, sweat wrap with runner's relief at night, magnets during the day. I can't say how effective the RR's was compared to other sweats because that is all I use. I can tell you my vet was always amazed at how well he healed compared to his other PRP horses who had the same type of injury, my guy was way ahead of schedule and I was the only one who used RR. He was completely healed at 7 months, released to enter at 9 but I gave him an extra 3 month. Per my vet, I ice after every run. He never reinjured that one but 6 years later had a small tear on the other rear. I did the same treatment.
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| iheartrodeo - 2017-06-05 2:49 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-06-05 2:21 PM Mine was out a year with a 40% high tear on rear. I did PRP, sweat wrap with runner's relief at night, magnets during the day. I can't say how effective the RR's was compared to other sweats because that is all I use. I can tell you my vet was always amazed at how well he healed compared to his other PRP horses who had the same type of injury, my guy was way ahead of schedule and I was the only one who used RR. He was completely healed at 7 months, released to enter at 9 but I gave him an extra 3 month. Per my vet, I ice after every run. He never reinjured that one but 6 years later had a small tear on the other rear. I did the same treatment. How long/often did you do the RR? 7 months solid? Longer?
Just 2-3 months, it was many years ago. I did it 6 days a week, I used an ace bandage and cut cheap disposable diapers in half. I put a spoonful or two of the RR in the diaper and speared it on the leg, didn't need gloves, wrapped the diaper and secured with the ace bandage. I reused the ace bandage till it wore out, much cheaper than using 2 months of vet wrap. | |
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 Location: Piedmont, OK | I had an old gelding tear a suspensory several years ago. There were several tears, i was told if I didn't do PRP he would never run again. I could not justify paying that on an 19 year old so stalled him until all the heat and swelling went down. While there was heat I would Ice it daily. When we got the heat out I would sweat it with DMSO and Furazone every night and was with cold water every morning. He was stalled for around 2 1/2 maybe 3 months. Then turned him out with my broodmares. At 8 months from being injured he was running, playing and bucking so I took him into ultrasound it and it was healed and Oakridge vets were amazed but released him to start exercising and I took it slow I didn't enter him until it had a year to heal. But that was 3 years ago and he is still running and sound. | |
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| soonergirl98 - 2017-06-06 10:44 AM I had an old gelding tear a suspensory several years ago. There were several tears, i was told if I didn't do PRP he would never run again. I could not justify paying that on an 19 year old so stalled him until all the heat and swelling went down. While there was heat I would Ice it daily. When we got the heat out I would sweat it with DMSO and Furazone every night and was with cold water every morning. He was stalled for around 2 1/2 maybe 3 months. Then turned him out with my broodmares. At 8 months from being injured he was running, playing and bucking so I took him into ultrasound it and it was healed and Oakridge vets were amazed but released him to start exercising and I took it slow I didn't enter him until it had a year to heal. But that was 3 years ago and he is still running and sound.
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| soonergirl98 - 2017-06-06 10:44 AM I had an old gelding tear a suspensory several years ago. There were several tears, i was told if I didn't do PRP he would never run again. I could not justify paying that on an 19 year old so stalled him until all the heat and swelling went down. While there was heat I would Ice it daily. When we got the heat out I would sweat it with DMSO and Furazone every night and was with cold water every morning. He was stalled for around 2 1/2 maybe 3 months. Then turned him out with my broodmares. At 8 months from being injured he was running, playing and bucking so I took him into ultrasound it and it was healed and Oakridge vets were amazed but released him to start exercising and I took it slow I didn't enter him until it had a year to heal. But that was 3 years ago and he is still running and sound.
That is awesome!!! I did not keep my guy stalled like they wanted me too. He went from a small run to a large pen to an hour or two out, by 4 months I turned him out. I think the movement helps the scar tissue heal strong and not binding or knotted. | |
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       Location: Washington | Appreciated all the replies! My horse was diagnosed with a front suspensory issue middle/end of February. He was 100% "sound" until vet flexed for a pre purchase. Thinking back him refusing the right lead woulda been a dead giveaway but being 95% ridden by kids we shrugged it off on improper cuing, anywho........ Vet didn't suggest any special treatment, said we could but in the end it'd just be TIME, 6-9 months stall rest. Well we don't have a stall so out to 40 acres pasture with cows he went. We're coming on 4 months and he's willingly, on his own, taking that right lead playing in the pasture.
I planned on a year off since it wasn't stall rest, just time off but seeing his progress I am excited to have the vet back out for an ultrasound to see how far off we are. Especially reading some of the stories here. | |
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      Location: WA | rodeomom3 - 2017-06-05 1:13 PM iheartrodeo - 2017-06-05 2:49 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-06-05 2:21 PM Mine was out a year with a 40% high tear on rear. I did PRP, sweat wrap with runner's relief at night, magnets during the day. I can't say how effective the RR's was compared to other sweats because that is all I use. I can tell you my vet was always amazed at how well he healed compared to his other PRP horses who had the same type of injury, my guy was way ahead of schedule and I was the only one who used RR. He was completely healed at 7 months, released to enter at 9 but I gave him an extra 3 month. Per my vet, I ice after every run. He never reinjured that one but 6 years later had a small tear on the other rear. I did the same treatment. How long/often did you do the RR? 7 months solid? Longer?
Just 2-3 months, it was many years ago. I did it 6 days a week, I used an ace bandage and cut cheap disposable diapers in half. I put a spoonful or two of the RR in the diaper and speared it on the leg, didn't need gloves, wrapped the diaper and secured with the ace bandage. I reused the ace bandage till it wore out, much cheaper than using 2 months of vet wrap.
How long did a 3.5# tub last? I am looking at it on Big Dee's website. A bit of money but if it works totally worth it! | |
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      Location: WA | Lopin' Leopard - 2017-06-07 6:02 AM Appreciated all the replies! My horse was diagnosed with a front suspensory issue middle/end of February. He was 100% "sound" until vet flexed for a pre purchase. Thinking back him refusing the right lead woulda been a dead giveaway but being 95% ridden by kids we shrugged it off on improper cuing, anywho........ Vet didn't suggest any special treatment, said we could but in the end it'd just be TIME, 6-9 months stall rest. Well we don't have a stall so out to 40 acres pasture with cows he went. We're coming on 4 months and he's willingly, on his own, taking that right lead playing in the pasture. I planned on a year off since it wasn't stall rest, just time off but seeing his progress I am excited to have the vet back out for an ultrasound to see how far off we are. Especially reading some of the stories here.
You never follow directions. 
?I forgot Hickey had a suspensory injury. I don't know what I thought it was. Hopefully Twist heals as quickly as he did. Although he wasn't visibly lame and Twist couldn't walk so.... | |
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     Location: In a happy place | I totally agree Nancy. When my Studder got hurt I did not keep him in a stall. I believe he would have hurt himself worse. He went out in an acre or two trap. Dr. Tanner was always amazed that that worked. | |
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| Lisantwist - 2017-08-25 7:50 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-06-05 1:13 PM iheartrodeo - 2017-06-05 2:49 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-06-05 2:21 PM Mine was out a year with a 40% high tear on rear. I did PRP, sweat wrap with runner's relief at night, magnets during the day. I can't say how effective the RR's was compared to other sweats because that is all I use. I can tell you my vet was always amazed at how well he healed compared to his other PRP horses who had the same type of injury, my guy was way ahead of schedule and I was the only one who used RR. He was completely healed at 7 months, released to enter at 9 but I gave him an extra 3 month. Per my vet, I ice after every run. He never reinjured that one but 6 years later had a small tear on the other rear. I did the same treatment. How long/often did you do the RR? 7 months solid? Longer?
Just 2-3 months, it was many years ago. I did it 6 days a week, I used an ace bandage and cut cheap disposable diapers in half. I put a spoonful or two of the RR in the diaper and speared it on the leg, didn't need gloves, wrapped the diaper and secured with the ace bandage. I reused the ace bandage till it wore out, much cheaper than using 2 months of vet wrap. How long did a 3.5# tub last? I am looking at it on Big Dee's website. A bit of money but if it works totally worth it!
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      Location: Beggs, OK | I used MagnaCu Tendon Wraps on my mare's suspensory tear and will never sweat a leg again. I don't use anything other than copper and/or magnets now. For competition runs I use FlowBoots because they offer the most support and protection of anything I've ever used. We are two years past the tear/rehab and have had no further issues whatsoever. | |
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     Location: Canada | Mine had a tear and we did PRP, Shockwave and stall rest. I had him ultrasounded at 3 months, six and nine. He was cleared to run in June of 2016 and I didn't do much with him for that year. I wanted to give him more time to heal and I had other to ride. I'm running him this year and he's working better then ever.
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