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Location: Somewhere around here | What bloodlines carry more of a relaxed and "ho-hum" style to their colts? My husband and I are talking about buying a nice barrel bloodline weanling next year and I figured I'd start researching what I'd like. I know every horse has their own personality but if I can get started on the right foot then that will help me more so down the road. |
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| IMO it really depends on the sire. Some Sun Frost are really laid back and some are hot, same with DTF's. Lots of people think FWF are laid back but I had one that was a complete crack head. So it depends on so many factors. I'd look for one from someone that takes the time to raise them right. The big "reputable" breeders sometimes fall in that catagory and many times they don't. |
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| I am not around a lot of the different bloodlines but I have a stud who is by Special Leader and out of a Streaking Six mare. His babies are so quiet so far and the other thing I love about them is that they are all sweet and very much people horses. |
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Location: Kansas | Not really barrel bred, but really like the mind on my smart royal rey filly. Super easy to start, no fuss, and built like a tank. My smart chic olena mare was the same |
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| Whiteboy - 2017-06-15 9:32 AM
IMO it really depends on the sire. Some Sun Frost are really laid back and some are hot, same with DTF's. Lots of people think FWF are laid back but I had one that was a complete crack head. So it depends on so many factors. I'd look for one from someone that takes the time to raise them right. The big "reputable" breeders sometimes fall in that catagory and many times they don't.
we had a cutting horse trainer tell us the same thing about the FWF - he said it went back to Flit Bar. They were either easy or spooky. My sister's FWF stud was the easiest horse to be around, even during breeding season. She hand bred him and my mom helped her. His colts were really intelligent, but some were a little looky, but at the same time brave. They all wanted to learn, but some just got a little worried if they didn't get it right away. |
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| Look at the bloodlines that are winning at the futurities. The is a tremendous amount of pressure put on these very young horses. They have to have good minds to be successful at this age. That being said, I like the Easy Jet lines. Streakin Six and Mr Jess Perry are a continuation of the Easy Jet line with great improvement. First Down Dash horse are laid back. Of course the most popular extension of the First Down Dash line is Dash Ta Fame. The is a reason that he is the number one barrel producing stallion and is not because they are fast. Leaving Memories is another extension of the First Down Dash line that are laid back. There are several other sons of First Down Dash that have that super attitude. I have one broodmare that is linebred First Down Dash and she is a sweetheart. I have two granddaughters of Leaving Memories that are quiet and gentle. |
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | First Prize Doc are super laid back and stallion has a high speed index. I also love the build. He does however throw big ole babies. He is PYC Paint Your Wagon/full sister to First Down Dash |
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| Rocket Wrangler, my stud Boy Six by RW, produced laid back easy to get along with horses. |
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Location: Texas | I haven't had a ton of experience with different bloodlines but I can tell you what we've raised so far..
We had a Confederate Leader X Packin Sixes filly who was a bit hot. Sold her as a yearling. She was nice though but definitely aware of everything around her.
First Down French X Stoli colt- he was awesome. Very trainable and pleasant to be around.
First Down French X Reckless Dash filly- she is super laid back 99% of the time. She is the only one we have that sets back when tied, well at least she did, but we got that worked out of her. She's otherwise been very mature and trainable. Her mom is a hotter/nervous mare
Firewater Ta Fame X Stoli colt- real in your pocket, wants to be in your business type horse. Acts like a normal colt in my opinion. Stay off of him for a month or so and expect to need to lunge him the first ride back, but other than that he's been fine.
FWTF X Jet of honor colt- same as the other FWTF we have except maybe even more level headed. He's only a yearling so hard to tell. Both have the same in your pocket, want to be pet and messed with types.
Slick By Design X Stoli- so far she's been pretty awesome. She's also a year old so hard to tell what she will do, but so far she hasn't been super hot or spooky.
Triple Vodka X Reckless Dash filly- so far she's also been a dream to be around... she's a weanling so tons of time before we know what she will do, but so far she has been very accepting of handling, isnt flighty, etc. hates the water hose right now lol.
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Location: Alberta | I think experience with a certain bloodline will tell what works for you!!!
I love Firewater Flit horses...they are very forgiving and are good minded (but what they are crossed on can tip the scale)
check our Solid Foundation Ranch she has amazing prospects with solid bloodlines. |
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Location: North Dakota | I don't know much about breeding, but this horse: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/specially+fine+cash is by far the most laid back, easy going, and trainable horse I've met. He's so smart but not in a "too smart for his own good" sort of way. And on top of that he's got a very sweet, expressive personality and is absolutely gorgeous. |
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Location: Way up North | I guess I am different in that I would suggest picking something bred similar to horses that have running styles you like, then look at the individual for personality. If you like a free runner look for something that predominately throws that, or rate if you like that. I like a horse with a lot of natural rate and turn so I looked at DTF sons to breed to. I have two full siblings and they are pretty opposite in a lot of ways but both athletic with that classic DTF type turn. The mare is very feely, sensitive, a little on the reactive side but not bad and is starting to grow out of that. The gelding is the type that is in your pocket, very relaxed and confident but not as feely. Some of that is gender and some is just individual personality.
I used to feel I needed something a certain dispostion but I have had some horses with great dispositions but just weren't what I was looking for on the pattern so I ended up selling. I never liked 'hot' horses until my cowhorse that is tighter than a $2 watch, I adjusted and appreciate that she has the ability to be competitive and deal with the rest of her personality. She gave me the confidence to ride a little tougher kind of horse and adjust.
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| streakysox - 2017-06-15 8:59 AM
Look at the bloodlines that are winning at the futurities. The is a tremendous amount of pressure put on these very young horses. They have to have good minds to be successful at this age. That being said, I like the Easy Jet lines. Streakin Six and Mr Jess Perry are a continuation of the Easy Jet line with great improvement. First Down Dash horse are laid back. Of course the most popular extension of the First Down Dash line is Dash Ta Fame. The is a reason that he is the number one barrel producing stallion and is not because they are fast. Leaving Memories is another extension of the First Down Dash line that are laid back. There are several other sons of First Down Dash that have that super attitude. I have one broodmare that is linebred First Down Dash and she is a sweetheart. I have two granddaughters of Leaving Memories that are quiet and gentle.
I got a colt from WyomingBarrelRacer and he has some of these blood lines. He just turned five and yesterday my 13 year-old daughter was doing backflips off of him. He was totally chill about it and is generally easy going. Of course, he does have his moments, but I would definitely get another one like him. Smart and sane.  |
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | GLP - 2017-06-15 10:09 AM
we had a cutting horse trainer tell us the same thing about the FWF - he said it went back to Flit Bar.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with this- the Flit Bar horses were light, sensitive and intelligent- maybe to a fault if you weren't used to that kind. I've ridden both Flit Bar horses and FWF horses and there is a bit of a difference. Not trying to pick a fight, BTW! 
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I don't like hot and don't put up with much nonsense. We have no issue selling a broodmare that produces a knot head. With that said, our late stallion was by Burrs First Down and out of a Mystic Eye daughter. Love 99% of what he sired. I am just a HUGE fan of First Down Dash. Even when crossed on Beduino and Zevi daughters.
We are now crossing our race bred mares on Guys Piece Ofthe Pie and I also have a Firewater Finale colt that I love love love. I have halter broke some Guys POTP babies that were out of WILD rougue mares. They were all so easy to handle and loved people and attention. I credit all that to the stallion. My Finale colt is one I can leave off for 2 months and just hop on and get right back business. I adore him. Took him to a 4H judging-his 2nd time to town and first time under saddle. He was so good the first 3 hrs (well until we had to do a English Equitation pattern and he wanted to be a goober).
Those are lines I will continue with as long as they are user friendly. |
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Location: Northwest | cloverleaf - 2017-06-15 6:45 PM
GLP - 2017-06-15 10:09 AM
we had a cutting horse trainer tell us the same thing about the FWF - he said it went back to Flit Bar.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with this- the Flit Bar horses were light, sensitive and intelligent- maybe to a fault if you weren't used to that kind. I've ridden both Flit Bar horses and FWF horses and there is a bit of a difference. Not trying to pick a fight, BTW!
Can you elaborate a bit more on the FWF's compared to the FB? My Sugar Bars granddaughter matches your description of the FB's to a tee and I was going to pursue the FWF line hoping to find something as similar to my mare as possible...but it sounds like maybe that isn't the right line to look into. Thoughts? |
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Location: Loco,Ok | I get all kinds here to ride start. All of the hot ones they call them. Most always it's the rider. You can not push and pull at the same time. They will push back. A lot of them. The faster they go the lighter they are. But speed disrupts everything. Pure speed really does.I broke a son of FB for Janie Proffer. And ridden a lot of them. You teach not train. The hot heads most always are man made. True there's a few you teach. And work around their personality. Learning to read and feel a horse is not something you can get out of a book or video. I have here now. Special Effort Frenchman Guy Dash for Cash and plenty of Flit Bar. Shows them.what to do how to do it. Get out of their way. Frenchmans Specialty. Is nice. Hooked on Run is another. Look them up. Let the horse work. |
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| I have had 3 Takin On The Cash horses now (all different combos of breeding) and all were very level headed horses. Each had its own personality but all very laid back. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Both of my Jesses Double Dee horses are good minded but the one out of a Bet the Cash daughter is a lot quieter than the other one. Most of the ones I've had with Easy Jet up close were quiet and laid back (one notable exception!). My Rare Jet Extremes horse that was out of a Mr Trucka Jet daughter was quiet and easy. The Dr Nick Bar I had was really easy once I got him broke good. He has ended up being an old lady horse and currently is a solid horse for a disabled girl. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | User friendly, easily trainable, brains that stay intact when speed hits, a horse that can stand in the pasture and then jump right back on where you left off...Firewater Ta Fame
If they have to look pretty he's your guy too. |
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| 07milch - 2017-06-16 8:29 AM
cloverleaf - 2017-06-15 6:45 PM
GLP - 2017-06-15 10:09 AM
we had a cutting horse trainer tell us the same thing about the FWF - he said it went back to Flit Bar.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with this- the Flit Bar horses were light, sensitive and intelligent- maybe to a fault if you weren't used to that kind. I've ridden both Flit Bar horses and FWF horses and there is a bit of a difference. Not trying to pick a fight, BTW!
Can you elaborate a bit more on the FWF's compared to the FB? My Sugar Bars granddaughter matches your description of the FB's to a tee and I was going to pursue the FWF line hoping to find something as similar to my mare as possible...but it sounds like maybe that isn't the right line to look into. Thoughts?
I loved my sisters FWF grandget. Although the ones from the Racin Free mare were looky they tried really hard and wanted to please. It was just sometimes you had to back off let them and you take a breath, relax and then try again. Her others were quieter and just as willing to do the right thing. I think this trainer just wanted to train robots. |
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Location: OH. IO | Our FWF was a DANGEROUS NUT JOB.although I believe some of the issues were from the dam. Our second one Fire Damage out of a racing free mare was a gem though.
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| jake16 - 2017-06-16 9:38 PM
Our FWF was a DANGEROUS NUT JOB.although I believe some of the issues were from the dam. Our second one Fire Damage out of a racing free mare was a gem though.
Lol, that is what makes breeding so interesting isn't it? Just like kids from the same parents but they have such different personalities! Was yours out of the Racin Free freaky athletic? My sisters were. I loved to watch them play on the he pasture, you never knew what kind of cool move they would come up with. |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | GLP - 2017-06-16 11:07 PM
jake16 - 2017-06-16 9:38 PM
Our FWF was a DANGEROUS NUT JOB.although I believe some of the issues were from the dam. Our second one Fire Damage out of a racing free mare was a gem though.
Lol, that is what makes breeding so interesting isn't it? Just like kids from the same parents but they have such different personalities! Was yours out of the Racin Free freaky athletic? My sisters were. I loved to watch them play on the he pasture, you never knew what kind of cool move they would come up with.
Yes!!he was FREAKY ATHLETIC!!!!!I always said I wish I could see him run on the track.especially the day he got loose and ran through the neighbors pristine lawn.lololol.he could lay down a run and was a TRUE 1D HORSE. |
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