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| This has been my mares 1st year of entering and she has been doing very well up until 3 weeks ago when the heat and humidity kicked in. She is almost lathorgic, no fire, not trying hard and just looks miserable. She constantly breaths fairly hard also even while just standing in the pasture. Nose is also a tiny bit runny. Currently she is on good pasture and always has hay in front of her. She also gets alfalfa pellets with animal element and tight joints plus. Free choice salt and minerals. I had her on curost 2 years ago while she was healing from an injury loved it but it's so expensive. Wondering if I should put her back on curost total and add the revive? Anyone else have a horse not like heat? What can I do to help her? She does get electrolytes also not everyday but I throw it in her feed a few times a week. |
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | Is she sweating enough? Have you taken her temp when she is not working but still breathing hard? |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 12:11 PM Also has anyone used curost and not had any results?
100% guarantee that it will result in money leaving your wallet.
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | I love Curost and Dr. Schell is awesome but it did nothing for my gelding aside from lessening his skin allergy symptoms. It was very expensive and I used it for about 9 months. Was great for some of my other horses but not my anhidrosis/allergy gelding. |
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| She sweats a lot. Just standing in the pasture all 3 of mine sweat. Have not taken a temp though. The vet did come out yesterday for a lameness exam. His answer was hock injections and to try lasix while running. I did do her hocks but I'm not sold on the lasix. I want to make her feel better. I bought some equipulmin to try also. I might be making it sound worse than what it is. Maybe that's just the way she is in the Tx heat? |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-06-17 11:16 AM
Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 12:11 PM Also has anyone used curost and not had any results?
100% guarantee that it will result in money leaving your wallet.
True..I'm not really sold on any supplement but I keep trying |
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | Equipulmin won't hurt, not sure I would use Lasix unless you had her scoped to confirm she was bleeding, lasix can make some horses lethargic. I would try keeping her up under fans during the day and turn out at night. If a performance horse has to stand in the heat and sweat all day I can see why performance may drop off, that is hard on them. |
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| Barnmom - 2017-06-17 11:29 AM
Equipulmin won't hurt, not sure I would use Lasix unless you had her scoped to confirm she was bleeding, lasix can make some horses lethargic. I would try keeping her up under fans during the day and turn out at night. If a performance horse has to stand in the heat and sweat all day I can see why performance may drop off, that is hard on them.
Ok, Thank you. Yeah I'm thinking the heats just a little harder on her than others. That's probably nothing a supplement would help. I was wondering if maybe she also has some allergys in the summer with the bit of a runny nose? |
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| Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 11:19 AM
She sweats a lot. Just standing in the pasture all 3 of mine sweat. Have not taken a temp though. The vet did come out yesterday for a lameness exam. His answer was hock injections and to try lasix while running. I did do her hocks but I'm not sold on the lasix. I want to make her feel better. I bought some equipulmin to try also. I might be making it sound worse than what it is. Maybe that's just the way she is in the Tx heat?
I have a gelding just like that and Cur Ost didn't help him with that problem. But it isn't designed to. I am fixin' to try BioStar's cooling supplement, just waiting for it to come in. I also cut his alfalfa intake to just 5 lbs a day. I had some Equi-sure left and I have given that in the morning on days when I know we will have a minimal breeze and that does seem to have helped. He perked up and got his appetite back plus sweated less. BioStar it really good about getting back to you with any questions you have.
Wanted to add I am in South Texas. Also I started him on Dr. DePaolo's ulcer herbs because he started pawing his feed tub which is a signal they are flaring up. I had some already and they are helping with that, although I prefer Cur Ost Stomach for ulcers. I just didn't have any.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Please, don't try to claim that Cur-Ost is going to improve heat tolerance. That's just not true. You can say other things about its benefits, but please don't make that particular claim.
What kind of "heat" are we talking about here, in terms of temperature and humidity? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would make sure this horse has plenty of shade and fresh fresh water at all times.. |
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| Bear - 2017-06-17 1:08 PM
Please, don't try to claim that Cur-Ost is going to improve heat tolerance. That's just not true. You can say other things about its benefits, but please don't make that particular claim.
What kind of "heat" are we talking about here, in terms of temperature and humidity?
I'm in N. Tx. Today it's supposed to be 97. I just sweat standing outside also. I know I wouldnt compete at my best in this weather either. Im only asking about the curost for maybe helping with the allergies (if she has them). Just trying to figure out why her performance has dropped and I can tell she's not happy lately. Maybe is was just the hocks and she'll perk up. Idk, I just have a big weekend coming up next weekend and I want her do perform good and feel good. |
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     Location: Northwest | I don't have any input on whether or not cur-ost will help with the heat intolerance but my two cents on the Revive is that it made my pretty chill gelding a fire- breathing dragon in an ungood way. I had to stop using it. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-17 1:21 PM
I would make sure this horse has plenty of shade and fresh fresh water at all times..
She does we have automatic waters, it's always completely full. She has shade she can get in also but she always stays with the other horses out grazing. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 1:34 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-17 1:21 PM I would make sure this horse has plenty of shade and fresh fresh water at all times.. She does we have automatic waters, it's always completely full. She has shade she can get in also but she always stays with the other horses out grazing.
Thats good, but I really dont care for the automatic waters, I like a barrel are a water trough so I can watch their water intake and my horses love to play in the water troughs when its gets really hot, I change out the water about every 3 days when the heat is on. |
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| Let me clear up that I'm not looking for the Cur-ost to help with heat intolerance so to speak. I'm wondering if she has something else going on making her uncomfortable like an allergy or something and the heat is just adding to it. If I could make her feel better than maybe she could handle the heat better. Does that make sense? She's young only 6. She bowed a tendon her 4 year old year so she was off 9 months healing. Brought her back slowly last spring early summer than I found out I was pregnant. So she got kicked back out to pasture until I had my baby. Started riding her again in February, entering in March. Just cruising her through at her own pace she was clocking in the 2d. The past 3 weeks she's just not clocking like she was, pattern is still good just no fire to her. The only thing that has changed recently is the heat. Maybe I just need to travel up north for the summers..lol
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-17 1:48 PM
Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 1:34 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-17 1:21 PM I would make sure this horse has plenty of shade and fresh fresh water at all times.. She does we have automatic waters, it's always completely full. She has shade she can get in also but she always stays with the other horses out grazing.
Thats good, but I really dont care for the automatic waters, I like a barrel are a water trough so I can watch their water intake and my horses love to play in the water troughs when its gets really hot, I change out the water about every 3 days when the heat is on.
That makes sense. Unfortunately we rent and live on someone else's property so I can't change that. Landlords and I share the property |
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| Bear - 2017-06-17 1:08 PM
Please, don't try to claim that Cur-Ost is going to improve heat tolerance. That's just not true. You can say other things about its benefits, but please don't make that particular claim.
What kind of "heat" are we talking about here, in terms of temperature and humidity?
If you were referring to me, I said Cur Ost will NOT help with heat intolerance. I have been fighting that fight for a couple years. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | This heat is just brutal for both horses and riders. In fact, it's dangerous. Be careful everyone. Heat stroke is deadly. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 1:58 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-17 1:48 PM Bnparlay - 2017-06-17 1:34 PM Southtxponygirl - 2017-06-17 1:21 PM I would make sure this horse has plenty of shade and fresh fresh water at all times.. She does we have automatic waters, it's always completely full. She has shade she can get in also but she always stays with the other horses out grazing. Thats good, but I really dont care for the automatic waters, I like a barrel are a water trough so I can watch their water intake and my horses love to play in the water troughs when its gets really hot, I change out the water about every 3 days when the heat is on. That makes sense. Unfortunately we rent and live on someone else's property so I can't change that. Landlords and I share the property
I agree about the automatic waterers. I would just hang a regular bucket of water by the automatic waterer. I would sure think the landlord wouldn't mind you hanging an extra bucket.
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| Bear - 2017-06-17 4:38 PM
This heat is just brutal for both horses and riders. In fact, it's dangerous. Be careful everyone. Heat stroke is deadly.
That's why I don't understand why producers hold barrel races in the middle of the afternoon! They should always be in the evening, who cares if they run till 1 am. I would much rather be up late than in the heat at 1 pm. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | That would be my preference as well, if I had anything to say about it.
Not possible for bigger barrel races though, I suppose. |
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       Location: USA | My barrel horse stays out on pasture and I bring her in on the day of a race to keep her out of the sun. That sun beating down on them relentlessly is enough to zap any energy they have. She hates being in a stall, but she can get over it. I also give her the cur-ost Revive daily, and she gets an extra scoop on the day of a barrel race.
I really think your issue is not only the heat, but the humidity. It'll zap their energy quick. |
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| Dreamingofcans - 2017-06-18 5:20 AM
My barrel horse stays out on pasture and I bring her in on the day of a race to keep her out of the sun. That sun beating down on them relentlessly is enough to zap any energy they have. She hates being in a stall, but she can get over it. I also give her the cur-ost Revive daily, and she gets an extra scoop on the day of a barrel race.
I really think your issue is not only the heat, but the humidity. It'll zap their energy quick.
Do you give only the revive? Or other Cur-ost formulas with it? Do you notice a difference with it? |
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       Location: USA | Bnparlay - 2017-06-18 9:06 AM Dreamingofcans - 2017-06-18 5:20 AM My barrel horse stays out on pasture and I bring her in on the day of a race to keep her out of the sun. That sun beating down on them relentlessly is enough to zap any energy they have. She hates being in a stall, but she can get over it. I also give her the cur-ost Revive daily, and she gets an extra scoop on the day of a barrel race. I really think your issue is not only the heat, but the humidity. It'll zap their energy quick. Do you give only the revive? Or other Cur-ost formulas with it? Do you notice a difference with it?
She gets the Revive and the Pure. I definitely notice a difference with the Revive - it gives her more energy. I just switched from the Plus to the Pure so no answers on that just yet. |
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         Location: Louisiana | I have one gelding that can't handle our summers. I noticed yesterday he was sweating and breathing heavy so it's time to put him up. The ONLY thing that helps is putting him in the barn with a fan.
He will sweat all day and then start losing hair and weight.
Our horses are on 24/7 turnout and we don't have a real barn, so I have to keep him in our old dairy barn. There's a large lot under cover on concrete. As much as I hate him standing on concrete all day, it keeps him wayyyyy healthier than being out.
I do have mats to help. And keep a buddy up with him also.
He just started getting "hot", and it will probably last until the end of August. So 2 solid months plus some isn't terrible. And I turn him out once the pasture is shaded again in the afternoon |
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     Location: Central Texas | Hopefully, you are too far north for the issues we are having with Equine Nasopharyngeal Tracheal Cicatrix, but it sounds a lot like it. It happens when horses are on pasture in heat and humidity, and is very prevelant We have had to put two horses down this year, so far, due to this stuff. Good luck. |
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| I did the Total Cur Ost but for different reasons and it made no impact on my horse's excessive sweating and elevated respiration. I have fed Nourish also for a different reason and it had no real impact, either.
On the Biostarus.com blog there is an article called Turning Down the Heat: Cooling Foods and Cool Star EQ. She gives a list of cooling foods for horses, so you don't have to buy their product. I received my Cool Star today and will start feeding it in the morning per the instructions.
What is helping right now is putting hay in the run ins and hanging plenty of water buckets (5). I have noticed that he and the black mare are much more willing to go to shade if good quality hay is in there. |
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