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| So I am trying to sell a vehicle and I put it on our local classifieds website and got a txt this morning from a guy from several thousands of miles away from me inquiring about it. When I asked where he was from and he told me and then proceeded to tell me he was going to pay through PayPal and then send a shipper. So I told him I believe this is a scam, no thank you and have been ignoring him since. So, then He acted all offended that I didnt believe him. Is there any way to shut him up? Or am I crazy and there is a chance this isnt a scam?
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Location: East Texas | I got someone like that contact me when I was trying to sell a saddle. He told me he was in an area where my husband was actually going to be traveling to. I offered for my husband to meet him with the saddle and said, no, he would rather pay to have it shipped... really?? Anyhow, he kept texting, so I started witnessing to him about Jesus and how he loves even the people like him that were scammers! I guess he didn't want to hear about Jesus because he stopped texting me!!!
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| I recently sold a trailer and pickup. I finally put in the ad PICK UP AND CASH ONLY! These things I sold were large amounts. We met at my bank and went thru everything I said to protect myself. It is amazing how many different stories I have heard from people trying to buy things off of me, which I knew without a doubt were scams. Anytime someone even brings up paypal I turn the other direction. If it is a phone number and I know it is a scam I block them. I refuse to use PAYPAL and if they want to get me the funds wire transfer ONLY. I had a horse for sale one time and it sounds just like what you are describing. I personally thing your situation is a scam. I told him he can come look and pickup only and he said he was to busy for that. He had an excuse for everything. Even when I ignored him he continued to text and tell me how serious of a buyer he was. I just blocked the number.
P.S. If you are bored you can always have a little fun with them as well and feed them right back what they are doing to you. That can get pretty interesting and hilarious. They do not like it to much when they find out you have them figured out and are just seeing how far they will go.
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| What is the turn off to pay pal???? I use it ALL the time ! Reason being is to keep you from getting scammed. ANyone can buy anything from me using pay pal. I issue an invoice, they pay it, I transfer the money to my personal bank account. Once it clears ( usually same day), I ship etc... If I buy on pay pal and they don't ship, file a claim and get my money back. I don't see the problem with those of you who are against it. Just don't send it friends and family, then your screwed. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-06-22 2:34 PM
What is the turn off to pay pal???? I use it ALL the time ! Reason being is to keep you from getting scammed. ANyone can buy anything from me using pay pal. I issue an invoice, they pay it, I transfer the money to my personal bank account. Once it clears ( usually same day), I ship etc... If I buy on pay pal and they don't ship, file a claim and get my money back. I don't see the problem with those of you who are against it. Just don't send it friends and family, then your screwed.
I use paypal a lot also. I was kind of wondering if it is a scam why would they try to use paypal but everything else about his wording and responses screamed scam to me. Its for 10K, does paypal have limits? |
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| horsesinharleton - 2017-06-22 2:00 PM
I got someone like that contact me when I was trying to sell a saddle. He told me he was in an area where my husband was actually going to be traveling to. I offered for my husband to meet him with the saddle and said, no, he would rather pay to have it shipped... really?? Anyhow, he kept texting, so I started witnessing to him about Jesus and how he loves even the people like him that were scammers! I guess he didn't want to hear about Jesus because he stopped texting me!!!
Well this guy went to telling me about Jesus (apparently to convince me he was trustworthy) lol |
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| Just have heard people had bad experiences with it and wonder why every time these scammers try to send a "shipper or agent" that is the first thing they ask me for is if I have paypal?
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Location: East Texas | horsiace1025 - 2017-06-22 2:39 PM
horsesinharleton - 2017-06-22 2:00 PM
I got someone like that contact me when I was trying to sell a saddle. He told me he was in an area where my husband was actually going to be traveling to. I offered for my husband to meet him with the saddle and said, no, he would rather pay to have it shipped... really?? Anyhow, he kept texting, so I started witnessing to him about Jesus and how he loves even the people like him that were scammers! I guess he didn't want to hear about Jesus because he stopped texting me!!!
Well this guy went to telling me about Jesus (apparently to convince me he was trustworthy ) lol
Omgoodness... people are getting to a new, all-time low by invoking His name! They certainly better be careful!
Can you block his number? It's a scam and he just needs to move on to someone else!!
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| I really dont get it. I guess if they get 1 person out of every 20 then all their hard work was worth it? I was had by a scammer one time when I was like 18 trying to sell a $1500 horse and when it was all said and done the scammer got nothing out of the deal and I got a bank charge for $30 because of the returned check and a lot of waisted time. I mean seriously I have better things to do, but are there really people out there that will send them money before the check or Paypal money clears? That would be absurd. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I've had some scammers text me who are quite believable ASIDE from the fact that they will only pay in cashiers check and have a shipper come get it. One, I told I was unsure because it sounded fishy, and his response was along the lines of, it probably sounds like a scam, but I'm not a lowlife like that. Hahaha, at least he knew what he was. |
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| The reason that it is a scam with paypal is they say they will include shipping costs and they want you to send this money somewhere else. By the time paypal figures it out you have sent out this money. Never to be seen again. I was selling a motorcycle and they didn't even argue about price. To me this is a red flag. He was several hundred miles away. I told him I prefer cash in hand and never heard from them again. Don't fall for it even with paypal. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I had one contact me at 3am one morning. I was working, so no big deal. But, I told him that he should at least look up the time in whatever area he is trying to scam someone because nobody is going to take him seriously if he calls at unusual times of the day. He wanted to argue, too. I just laughed at him and told him he wasn't a very good scammer. |
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| Trust your gut. It doesn't lead you astray too often. Also, coming from someone who works at a bank...cashier's checks CAN BE COUNTERFEIT...they are getting better and better at it too. It used to be a very trusted source of payment. Not so much anymore. PayPal or cash is about the only way to go if you don't know the party you're dealing with. |
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| So my curiosity is aroused about paypal now. I sold my trailer for over $30k, if the deal turned out as a scam does PAYPAL just hand back whoever was done wrong their 30k? I know you have to file a claim and such, but how long does that take etc? Just really curious now because they lady who bought it asked if I had paypal and was shocked I didn't? |
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Location: IL | I use paypal all the time. I can transfer the money right into my account. I just don't deal with anyone saying a shipper is coming. And I will not pay thru Paypal for friends and family. Not covered by the insurance. Some guy was trying to scam me on a saddle not to long ago. Was pretty slick until I realize his telephone number area code was from Chicago, but he was telling me he was in Texas. He paid for an ad on here and everything! But I remembered the same saddle was listed on ebay and that saddle was in FL? You have to really do your research. I called him out and he was still arguing with me. I also let the seller in FL know someone was trying to sell her saddle. |
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| merdth6 - 2017-06-22 1:19 PM
I use paypal all the time. I can transfer the money right into my account. I just don't deal with anyone saying a shipper is coming. And I will not pay thru Paypal for friends and family. Not covered by the insurance. Some guy was trying to scam me on a saddle not to long ago. Was pretty slick until I realize his telephone number area code was from Chicago, but he was telling me he was in Texas. He paid for an ad on here and everything! But I remembered the same saddle was listed on ebay and that saddle was in FL? You have to really do your research. I called him out and he was still arguing with me. I also let the seller in FL know someone was trying to sell her saddle.
TO me phone number is no big deal. With cell phones people keep the same number even when they move. Its totally logical for someone to have a cell with a Chicago # but live in TX. Many of my students have cell phones that are not local numbers |
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| I had someone send me a cashiers check for a saddle. I was asking $1500 for saddle and told them the shipping would be $65. They sent a check for $2800. I called the bank to ask if the check was legit. Bank said the check had been issued in September of 2014!!! So it was a fake.
It looked real and so did the envelope, etc. So I stashed it in my desk drawer at work. No contact from buyer...but a few days later I got ANOTHER check for the same amount for the same address.
I texted the seller and told him that I would arrange for shipping from my work: San Diego PD East County Division. I never heard back from them. LOL |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Always be leary of people who say they want to pay with Paypal. they are hoping you have no idea how it works and will ask you for your email to send money via friends and family. NEVER give your email to a buyer you don't know. Once they have your email, that's all they need in order to hack your accont and get your banking info or card info. THey can also charge to your account and your account will become negative.
ALWAYS send them an invoice. ALWAYS upload tracking information. If they want to send a shipper request they send you an email stating they will cover shipping cost and set up. This way you have proof and they cannot open a claim stating they never received the item since there was no tracking uploaded. PayPal will accept an email as proof if it is the same email address used to pay.  |
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| IRunOnFaith - 2017-06-22 2:52 PM
Always be leary of people who say they want to pay with Paypal. they are hoping you have no idea how it works and will ask you for your email to send money via friends and family. NEVER give your email to a buyer you don't know. Once they have your email, that's all they need in order to hack your accont and get your banking info or card info. THey can also charge to your account and your account will become negative.
ALWAYS send them an invoice. ALWAYS upload tracking information. If they want to send a shipper request they send you an email stating they will cover shipping cost and set up. This way you have proof and they cannot open a claim stating they never received the item since there was no tracking uploaded. PayPal will accept an email as proof if it is the same email address used to pay.
OK, so your advising NOT to give anyone your email address, but YOU NEED someone's address to INVOICE THEM. SO how does that work? Your not supposed to give yours but you expect others to give YOU their email? Please clarify thanks! |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-06-23 2:02 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-06-22 2:52 PM
Always be leary of people who say they want to pay with Paypal. they are hoping you have no idea how it works and will ask you for your email to send money via friends and family. NEVER give your email to a buyer you don't know. Once they have your email, that's all they need in order to hack your accont and get your banking info or card info. THey can also charge to your account and your account will become negative.
ALWAYS send them an invoice. ALWAYS upload tracking information. If they want to send a shipper request they send you an email stating they will cover shipping cost and set up. This way you have proof and they cannot open a claim stating they never received the item since there was no tracking uploaded. PayPal will accept an email as proof if it is the same email address used to pay.
OK, so your advising NOT to give anyone your email address, but YOU NEED someone's address to INVOICE THEM. SO how does that work? Your not supposed to give yours but you expect others to give YOU their email? Please clarify thanks!
I had the exact thought. When I'm a seller I always ask for the buyers email and invoice them.
But when I'm the buyer I give them my PayPal email address so they can invoice me...
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Location: IL | FLITASTIC - 2017-06-22 3:41 PM merdth6 - 2017-06-22 1:19 PM I use paypal all the time. I can transfer the money right into my account. I just don't deal with anyone saying a shipper is coming. And I will not pay thru Paypal for friends and family. Not covered by the insurance. Some guy was trying to scam me on a saddle not to long ago. Was pretty slick until I realize his telephone number area code was from Chicago, but he was telling me he was in Texas. He paid for an ad on here and everything! But I remembered the same saddle was listed on ebay and that saddle was in FL? You have to really do your research. I called him out and he was still arguing with me. I also let the seller in FL know someone was trying to sell her saddle. TO me phone number is no big deal. With cell phones people keep the same number even when they move. Its totally logical for someone to have a cell with a Chicago # but live in TX. Many of my students have cell phones that are not local numbers
I agree with the phone number but not in this case. Esp because this supposed seller sent me the same pictures from the saddle that was for sale on eBay in Florida. I was just saying people go thru lots of hoops to scam you. |
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Location: Sweet Home Alabama | RodeoCowgirl4u - 2017-06-22 4:40 PM
I had someone send me a cashiers check for a saddle. I was asking $1500 for saddle and told them the shipping would be $65. They sent a check for $2800. I called the bank to ask if the check was legit. Bank said the check had been issued in September of 2014!!! So it was a fake.
It looked real and so did the envelope, etc. So I stashed it in my desk drawer at work. No contact from buyer...but a few days later I got ANOTHER check for the same amount for the same address.
I texted the seller and told him that I would arrange for shipping from my work: San Diego PD East County Division. I never heard back from them. LOL
Yeah, whenever someone says they're sending more than I'm asking, I ignore. That's a surefire sign it's a scammer. They also always say they'll have someone pick it up for them.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2017-06-22 2:34 PM What is the turn off to pay pal???? I use it ALL the time ! Reason being is to keep you from getting scammed. ANyone can buy anything from me using pay pal. I issue an invoice, they pay it, I transfer the money to my personal bank account. Once it clears ( usually same day), I ship etc... If I buy on pay pal and they don't ship, file a claim and get my money back. I don't see the problem with those of you who are against it. Just don't send it friends and family, then your screwed.
I've never had problems. I see the biggest problem is when people think they can save money by having them send it friends and family. Never do this unless you are actually sending a friend or family member money. As a seller, you have no recourse.
I recently made a purchase through paypal I made on my credit card and it was a scam of sorts. They sent me a trial sample for shipping. I read everything and they claim I was set up for autoship unless I cancelled within 30 days. I called my credit card company and they said it happens all the time. They took off the charges on my card and they also had an additional charge that had just come up on my statement.
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| My mother just got caught up in a scam... mystery shopper scam. .. she didn't tell any of us until it was brought to her attention she was being scammed... I have a sister who works at a bank. This "company" sent her a check for $1900 she took it to her bank and they actually cashed it and gave her the money... she was to keep $375 and send the rest in a money gram transfer thru walmart out here to the walmart in Amarillo and then let them know how her experience was. Luckily once she caught on she went back to her bank, same day, and they told her to rush back to Walmart and try and stop the transfer... thankfully they hadn't sent it yet and they returned the money to her, in which she returned all the money to the bank... she asked her bank why they'd cash a check like that and they told her she's been a long standing customer and has direct deposit so they weren't going to hold any money. Phew!!! Crazy things out there these days! She should have known better but I swear these scammers are preying more n more on the elderly. |
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| That is hilarious. I will certainly keep that in mind with people that are bugging me. lol
I use craigslist a lot...had a whole house to furnish...and I had furniture and stuff to sell. I always make sure I talk to someone on the phone before I sell or buy anything. For me, talking to the person on the phone first seems to be the key. |
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