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Location: Durango CO | I am looking at buying a son of FG out of a Corona Cartel mare. What are FG like to ride and run? What's their style? |
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| The best I can do to help is suggest you get on youtube and look for FIRST DOWN FRENCH. He is about the best example I can give you. There are several sons and daughters in this area but I doubt that they have videos that are easy to find |
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Location: Loco,Ok | I ride several. It's not a lot different than any other. You.can't force it on them. Use your feet more than your hands. The ones I , get are by son of Special Effort out daughter of FGFrenchman Specialty. You better not hurt one. Corona Cartel will same. A tired one is a good one. These always have a foot in the right place. Big strong. Move like a little horse. If you give them time to think. Awfully light headed. You can have a screamer.And I found you the faster they go the lighter they get. And 99 % of barrel racer pull.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | There are some grand generalizations taking place here. |
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Location: North Dakota | I cannot speak from experience but I was told that FG colts often will get their hip too far under them (to the inside) in the turn and to use your inside to keep it out a little bit farther.
Of course, these are generalizations.
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Location: Durango CO | 1DSoon - 2017-06-23 8:42 AM There are some grand generalizations taking place here.
1D Soon, please elaborate. |
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| I've been told by quite a few pple they are front endy turners? I have been drooling over a daughter for quite some time, but am afraid I won't be able to ride her I'm not sure?? She's super light in the face too. For those that have front endy turners, are they worse on hard or shallow ground? |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | It depends on what FG you're asking about - an own son? A maternal FG or paternal? I have honestly never owned one but my best friend has several out of Martha's Frenchman and they're big free runners but they're crossed with some good run as well. (Neither are front endy)
My other good friend has a peppy San badger and FG who is super setty and she has to real push him past his turns, not front endy at all.
I think it just depends on the horse and the cross they're not all the same. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | I have ridden several- every single one I have gotten in has been really dull. They are heavy in the front end and not the most driven animals I've ever had. They try hard when they think it's their idea. I had a frenchmans fabulous that I didn't hate, but the own sons and daughters I've ridden have all just about made me lose my religion. |
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Location: Iowa/Missouri | I ride an own son and he is probably one of the most fun horses I have ever rode. Not sure he can be tired out, think I would wear out before he does. He is a turning fool. Will not run by a barrel. Uses his butt a lot in the turn. Not front endy at all. Very light in the face when riding around. And from my experience you had better teach them how you want to do things correctly the first time as they will retain whatever you teach them right or wrong. I have spent years getting my guy brought back from being pushed too young. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Guys Piece ofthe Pie is a son and he has a ton of drive and is a real go getter. Not a bit front endy either. I live in WY where I watch own get run and compete and they clean house most everywhere. There is a reason him and his grandget are still so popular. I was never a fan myself only due to size, but GPOTP is 15.3 and throws size. Been real pleased with what he sires. Magnum is another son I have really been watching. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | There is no cookie cutter method of how to ride a horse with a particular bloodline. Each horse is an individual and has his own set of needs. |
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| Liana D - 2017-06-24 10:39 PM
There is no cookie cutter method of how to ride a horse with a particular bloodline. Each horse is an individual and has his own set of needs.
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | I've ridden several FG sons, daughters, and grandget. Just like any other horse there are no two alike. I have loved all of mine and they've all had very different maternal bloodlines. |
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Location: Texas | I've only ridden grandget so its already diluted a bit.. but the two I have are by the same sire and completely different. Both super cool. Like others have said, even among sons and daughters, every horse is different, and they should show you how they need to be ridden when you sit on them. My sister always tries to compare each horse she's riding to the other and I always tell her to just stop, it doesn't matter what horse A does, horse B is it's own animal and they are not the same. |
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| rockinas - 2017-06-27 4:39 PM I've ridden several FG sons, daughters, and grandget. Just like any other horse there are no two alike. I have loved all of mine and they've all had very different maternal bloodlines.
Yes, people seem to forget how important the moma is too. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I've only had two daughters that I rode. Both out of race bred mares. The similarities between them were they were forgiving, quiet minded, loved to hear whoa. But they also weren't lazy or heavy. I'll put it this way. I didn't know what the hype was all about until I rode mine. Then I understood.
I've had grandkids o/o these mares since. But since I sold them to other people for barrels, I never rode them myself. The one mare I kept for a broodmare is a VERY good producer with any foal o/o her going to the pen being at least a 2D horse but more likely a 1D horse. One is particularly outstanding and usually wins the medium size races or places in the 1D of the larger races and pro rodeos. He's a little guy too. 14.3 at most.
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Location: Durango CO | The horse is a son of FG and a grandson of corona cartel. WHen I ask how do you ride a FG what I mean is, is it more common to guide them around turns? Do you need to be aggressive with your body? Do you ride with a quiet body and use a little hand on the backside? ETC? I know each horse is different and so are training methods.
What are the generalizations and what are the horses like that are winning?
I appreciate all the input so far though!! |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Lil_Pony35 - 2017-06-28 12:37 PM
The horse is a son of FG and a grandson of corona cartel. WHen I ask how do you ride a FG what I mean is, is it more common to guide them around turns? Do you need to be aggressive with your body? Do you ride with a quiet body and use a little hand on the backside? ETC? I know each horse is different and so are training methods.
What are the generalizations and what are the horses like that are winning?
I appreciate all the input so far though!!
Was he on Facebook? I think I saw him there. |
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Location: Durango CO | Yes he was. Can you PM me if you looked at him. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Lil_Pony35 - 2017-06-28 1:17 PM
Yes he was. Can you PM me if you looked at him.
I just saw his video in a post on there. I haven't seen him in person or anything. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Liana D - 2017-06-24 10:39 PM There is no cookie cutter method of how to ride a horse with a particular bloodline. Each horse is an individual and has his own set of needs.
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Lil_Pony35 - 2017-06-28 12:37 PM The horse is a son of FG and a grandson of corona cartel. WHen I ask how do you ride a FG what I mean is, is it more common to guide them around turns? Do you need to be aggressive with your body? Do you ride with a quiet body and use a little hand on the backside? ETC? I know each horse is different and so are training methods.
What are the generalizations and what are the horses like that are winning?
I appreciate all the input so far though!!
There really aren't any "generalizations".
If you like the horse, buy it, and disregard the papers and "how it's bred" and just ride & train the horse like the individual that he or she is. Horses don't know how they're bred so capitalize on individual weaknesses and strong points and go from there.  |
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How do you ride a Frenchmans guy?