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Location: AZ | A few months ago we took my ten year old daughter to a Fallon Taylor clinic. I was genuinely impressed with Fallon, she is a very intelligent, motivated young lady. So when she went live with her barrel racing college, we signed up. We are very busy and didn't have a lot of time to look at her "college" but I did spend a lot of time on her Facebook forum associated with her "college". I loved hearing from other barrel racers but noticed after a few months that no one was ever commenting that Fallon Taylor teachings weren't working. I don't know a lot but I do think that what works for one horse won't always work for another, so I simply asked on the forum if everyone was giving their true experiences or only commenting on what works for them on what Fallon says. I guess I have spent to many years in real college and real open learning forums because Fallon (who rarely responded on the forum) instantly gave a million word response on how it was her site and her way and then instantly blocked me from the site. I previously spent some time researching her, I'm not just going to let my daughter follow just anyone, and it was very apparent by her YouTube videos, that as much as she claims to dislike drama, when you post a video crying because your friends friend said you were a stripper, that screams drama to me. I understand she gets attacked all the time but that is part of being a celebrity. So I think it is an insult to barrel racers for her to have a site titled barrelracingcollege, it's not, it's the school of fallon Taylor and if it's that what you want, than join. But if you want to learn, as in a true college atmosphere, stay on here or look at sites like barrel racing secrets, where many "professors" are featured.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | teamtastetherainbow - 2017-06-23 12:10 PM A few months ago we took my ten year old daughter to a Fallon Taylor clinic. I was genuinely impressed with Fallon, she is a very intelligent, motivated young lady. So when she went live with her barrel racing college, we signed up. We are very busy and didn't have a lot of time to look at her "college" but I did spend a lot of time on her Facebook forum associated with her "college". I loved hearing from other barrel racers but noticed after a few months that no one was ever commenting that Fallon Taylor teachings weren't working. I don't know a lot but I do think that what works for one horse won't always work for another, so I simply asked on the forum if everyone was giving their true experiences or only commenting on what works for them on what Fallon says. I guess I have spent to many years in real college and real open learning forums because Fallon (who rarely responded on the forum) instantly gave a million word response on how it was her site and her way and then instantly blocked me from the site. I previously spent some time researching her, I'm not just going to let my daughter follow just anyone, and it was very apparent by her YouTube videos, that as much as she claims to dislike drama, when you post a video crying because your friends friend said you were a stripper, that screams drama to me. I understand she gets attacked all the time but that is part of being a celebrity. So I think it is an insult to barrel racers for her to have a site titled barrelracingcollege, it's not, it's the school of fallon Taylor and if it's that what you want, than join. But if you want to learn, as in a true college atmosphere, stay on here or look at sites like barrel racing secrets, where many "professors" are featured.
This has been discussed in a previous thread.
Did you get a refund since she blocked you? Any chance you have screenshots of the response from fallon?
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Location: AZ | Did you get a refund since she blocked you? Any chance you have screenshots of the response from fallon?
Sorry, very new on here. No I didn't, had I known how it was going to go I would of. I am in shock because after going to her clinic and seeing how she appeared to want feedback and for people to become better barrel racers, I wasn't expecting the response. I was instantly blocked | |
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| At $19.99, consider yourself to have gotten a very cheap lesson. You just graduated with a BS from BR College. It takes most much more time and money to get that degree.
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I think the thing about Fallon is she appeals to the people that don't know any better. I grew up watching videos and books put out by the Myllymaki's, Ed Wright, Sharon Camarillo and Charmayne James. Before Fallon made the NFR again I only knew her as the lady that marketed Gypsy Tails. I don't think I was born when she was qualifying as a youth.
I honestly only see her as a business woman that happens to have a good barrel horse. Those people I mentioned have proven that they can produce multiple good horses and/or are good at truly improving other people's horsemanship. | |
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Location: AZ | IRunOnFaith - 2017-06-23 12:19 PM
teamtastetherainbow - 2017-06-23 12:10 PM A few months ago we took my ten year old daughter to a Fallon Taylor clinic. I was genuinely impressed with Fallon, she is a very intelligent, motivated young lady. So when she went live with her barrel racing college, we signed up. We are very busy and didn't have a lot of time to look at her "college" but I did spend a lot of time on her Facebook forum associated with her "college". I loved hearing from other barrel racers but noticed after a few months that no one was ever commenting that Fallon Taylor teachings weren't working. I don't know a lot but I do think that what works for one horse won't always work for another, so I simply asked on the forum if everyone was giving their true experiences or only commenting on what works for them on what Fallon says. I guess I have spent to many years in real college and real open learning forums because Fallon (who rarely responded on the forum) instantly gave a million word response on how it was her site and her way and then instantly blocked me from the site. I previously spent some time researching her, I'm not just going to let my daughter follow just anyone, and it was very apparent by her YouTube videos, that as much as she claims to dislike drama, when you post a video crying because your friends friend said you were a stripper, that screams drama to me. I understand she gets attacked all the time but that is part of being a celebrity. So I think it is an insult to barrel racers for her to have a site titled barrelracingcollege, it's not, it's the school of fallon Taylor and if it's that what you want, than join. But if you want to learn, as in a true college atmosphere, stay on here or look at sites like barrel racing secrets, where many "professors" are featured.
This has been discussed in a previous thread.
Did you get a refund since she blocked you? Any chance you have screenshots of the response from fallon?
I thought your question about refund was odd because I wouldn't even think to ask for a refund, but today we had two refunds from dynasty equine. Which is really odd because my Facebook is not tied into that email for the "college". I am truly bummed out, I genuinely loved her clinic and she is a go getter but I think she's let her ego get the best of her and has conditioned herself to think everyone is attacking her. | |
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| Honestly, your question also seemed you were looking to stir the pot. I am not even remotely shocked that you were blocked. My thing is, one method does not even close to work for every horse. However, with that said, FT is an advertising genius and wants only positivity on her pages for that reason. so, even though most people want to see all feedback because it can be helpful to see what works and doesn't and why, she doesn't want the negativity attached. Now I see a lot of reasons why, a lot of people cannot implement what they are reading so it could make her look bad because theyre doing it wrong. Secondly, a lot of people blame others for their short comings. At any rate, I think it is a touchy thing to have (barrel racing college). I think it would be interesting for the behind the scenes info but I don't think you can essentially give lessons over fb. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | teamtastetherainbow - 2017-06-23 6:49 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-06-23 12:19 PM teamtastetherainbow - 2017-06-23 12:10 PM A few months ago we took my ten year old daughter to a Fallon Taylor clinic. I was genuinely impressed with Fallon, she is a very intelligent, motivated young lady. So when she went live with her barrel racing college, we signed up. We are very busy and didn't have a lot of time to look at her "college" but I did spend a lot of time on her Facebook forum associated with her "college". I loved hearing from other barrel racers but noticed after a few months that no one was ever commenting that Fallon Taylor teachings weren't working. I don't know a lot but I do think that what works for one horse won't always work for another, so I simply asked on the forum if everyone was giving their true experiences or only commenting on what works for them on what Fallon says. I guess I have spent to many years in real college and real open learning forums because Fallon (who rarely responded on the forum) instantly gave a million word response on how it was her site and her way and then instantly blocked me from the site. I previously spent some time researching her, I'm not just going to let my daughter follow just anyone, and it was very apparent by her YouTube videos, that as much as she claims to dislike drama, when you post a video crying because your friends friend said you were a stripper, that screams drama to me. I understand she gets attacked all the time but that is part of being a celebrity. So I think it is an insult to barrel racers for her to have a site titled barrelracingcollege, it's not, it's the school of fallon Taylor and if it's that what you want, than join. But if you want to learn, as in a true college atmosphere, stay on here or look at sites like barrel racing secrets, where many "professors" are featured. This has been discussed in a previous thread.
Did you get a refund since she blocked you? Any chance you have screenshots of the response from fallon?
I thought your question about refund was odd because I wouldn't even think to ask for a refund, but today we had two refunds from dynasty equine. Which is really odd because my Facebook is not tied into that email for the "college". I am truly bummed out, I genuinely loved her clinic and she is a go getter but I think she's let her ego get the best of her and has conditioned herself to think everyone is attacking her.
Hugs to you. 
I was curious if you had gotten a refund simply because you paid to be in the group and were kicked out.
I asked about the screenshots because I know how hard FT has worked in the past to get things like this swept under the rug.
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| Any time there is a clinic post on here if someone should " Go" or not and now this FT thing.... just sit back and ask yourself " How many quality horses has this person TRAINED themselves and have become successful?? People like Cervi, James, Joseys, etc etc have produced winner after winner. How many has FT " Made" ????????? YES is a business woman to perfection! Good for her! Probably the biggest " Dynasty" of clinicians is SHaron Camarillo. HOW MANY " SHARON CAMARILLO" horses do you see competing and going to rodeos/races??????? Sharon had ONE GOOD HORSE back in the day and has built an empire there. again, GOOD for her. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | FLITASTIC - 2017-06-26 1:49 PM Any time there is a clinic post on here if someone should " Go" or not and now this FT thing.... just sit back and ask yourself " How many quality horses has this person TRAINED themselves and have become successful?? People like Cervi, James, Joseys, etc etc have produced winner after winner. How many has FT " Made" ????????? YES is a business woman to perfection! Good for her! Probably the biggest " Dynasty" of clinicians is SHaron Camarillo. HOW MANY " SHARON CAMARILLO" horses do you see competing and going to rodeos/races??????? Sharon had ONE GOOD HORSE back in the day and has built an empire there. again, GOOD for her.
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-06-26 1:49 PM Any time there is a clinic post on here if someone should " Go" or not and now this FT thing.... just sit back and ask yourself " How many quality horses has this person TRAINED themselves and have become successful?? People like Cervi, James, Joseys, etc etc have produced winner after winner. How many has FT " Made" ????????? YES is a business woman to perfection! Good for her! Probably the biggest " Dynasty" of clinicians is SHaron Camarillo. HOW MANY " SHARON CAMARILLO" horses do you see competing and going to rodeos/races??????? Sharon had ONE GOOD HORSE back in the day and has built an empire there. again, GOOD for her.
I think several of the Josey horses were bought or leased and not trained by her. Talk about the original "marketing" people. Went to a clinic of theirs back in the 70's and everyone did the exact same thing. When one person finished the first barrel the next person started. If you didn't have a very good bred horse then forget it. | |
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Any time there is a clinic post on here if someone should " Go" or not and now this FT thing.... just sit back and ask yourself " How many quality horses has this person TRAINED themselves and have become successful?? People like Cervi, James, Joseys, etc etc have produced winner after winner. How many has FT " Made" ????????? YES is a business woman to perfection! Good for her! Probably the biggest " Dynasty" of clinicians is SHaron Camarillo. HOW MANY " SHARON CAMARILLO" horses do you see competing and going to rodeos/races??????? Sharon had ONE GOOD HORSE back in the day and has built an empire there. again, GOOD for her.
I am a big believer in this. A lot of "trainers" out there and I always tell friends who ask, 1 are they better than you and 2 how many horses have they been successful on?
There is a local gal up here who is consistent 1D on multiple horses and she is less expensive than those who have had maybe 1 good horse. | |
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| euchee - 2017-06-26 4:13 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-06-26 1:49 PM Any time there is a clinic post on here if someone should " Go" or not and now this FT thing.... just sit back and ask yourself " How many quality horses has this person TRAINED themselves and have become successful?? People like Cervi, James, Joseys, etc etc have produced winner after winner. How many has FT " Made" ????????? YES is a business woman to perfection! Good for her! Probably the biggest " Dynasty" of clinicians is SHaron Camarillo. HOW MANY " SHARON CAMARILLO" horses do you see competing and going to rodeos/races??????? Sharon had ONE GOOD HORSE back in the day and has built an empire there. again, GOOD for her.
I think several of the Josey horses were bought or leased and not trained by her. Talk about the original "marketing" people. Went to a clinic of theirs back in the 70's and everyone did the exact same thing. When one person finished the first barrel the next person started. If you didn't have a very good bred horse then forget it.
I had the same experience. What completely turned me off the Joseys was the fact that they will run a horse that is for sale into the ground on the pattern. I was on a borrowed gelding that was really broke but didn't know the pattern. He did so well they asked if he was for sale, they had someone interested in him. The owners gave a price and the at the end of the clinic that evening they had me take him through the pattern as fast as he could handle it, which was more than a lope, over and over again. This little horse, who was so sweet and tried so hard all weekend, started refusing the gate. I told them he was done and the reasonr why. Guess what? They didn't care, they insisted I take him through again. I refused, got off the poor guy and walked out to cool him down. This horse was entrusted to my care, I was not about to cripple him for a possible sale. There were other things that went on that weekend that were eye opening, this is the one that happened to me personally. | |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-06-26 6:03 PM
My mistake on Joseys..lol I wish to replace Joseys in my origional post with Danyelle Campbell. Thanks!!
Not really a mistake because if you are a kid, they are REALLY good, no matter your horse. They liked my little horse and were really nice to me up to sale thing. Adults with questions on horses they viewed as not having a lot of potential, not so much. | |
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