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| I am a recent college graduate with a Bachelor degree in Business Administration as well as an AA in Liberal Arts and an AA in general Business. I was wondering what everyone does that not only helps pay the bills but also has the flexibility for hobbies and family time? Please include the education and training requirements for your position. :)
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| I have an AS in Agriculture and a BA in Agriculture Economics.
I spent several years in Ag lending. Then, moved into grain merchandising. I am now back into banking again.
Both careers are pretty flexible. I wasn't tied to a desk. A lot of business development, meeting clients on the farm, etc...
I did not have to work "harvest hours" as a merchandiser which was nice, so no late nights or weekends, but I know some do.
I luckily do not have to work Saturdays at the bank. That was a deal breaker for me. So I do the typical 8-4; but occasionally will meet clients before/after hours if that's what works for them.
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Location: OH. IO | Im a salt miner.I work 2,000 ft underground and run heavy equipment and sometimes im above ground running loaders to load boats or run our bag machine.im now one of only two woman at the plant. All training is on the job.Love my job;) |
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| jake16 - 2017-08-01 2:38 PM Im a salt miner.I work 2,000 ft underground and run heavy equipment and sometimes im above ground running loaders to load boats or run our bag machine.im now one of only two woman at the plant. All training is on the job.Love my job;)
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Location: Bandera, TX | I do account management/sales for a consulting firm in the pharma space. I have been working from home for the last 10 years and three companies combined. I do have to keep regular hours, but have time to keep an eye on my horses. I also do make a decent living. I do have a very demanding sales quota to reach and my job is very stressful because of it.
I have an MBA, but that is not needed for my job. I would look into inside sales or account managment. Lots of jobs out there, and it wil give you a good start to build your resumee. |
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Location: Kansas | I work for the board of nursing, and I'm in school for RN. Once I get out of school I'll work full time as an RN |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | You may want to consider options for self-employment if you are seeking a flexible job that leaves time for horses.
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| Thank you everyone that has replied! I really appreciate it! You all have given me some great ideas! :) |
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| Also a grain merchandiser. I have a bachelors in Ag Economics and an associates in Agronomy. I've been in the field for a little over 7 years, first in Michigan and now Iowa.
I work for one of the major Ag companies. I've always been blessed with a fairly flexible schedule, in part due to awesome bosses, but at my first location I did have to work harvest hours and now I rotate weekends with 6 or 7 others.
Currently looking to hop over to another of the major Ag companies, for no reason other than cutting my commute by 120 miles a day. Would have the same job description though. Cross your fingers! |
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Location: Missouri | I work in a law office as a legal assistant to an attorney. I have no formal education other than a high school diploma. |
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| My daughter is a drug rep, very flexible schedule and great pay. She had 4.0 in economics and also her MBA. She made 84K her second year in the industry. Drug reps may not be around but for 20 more years or so but you can make good money while the industry is here. They look for motivated and hard working college graduates who had good GPA's.
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| I work as an administrative assistant at one of the larger equine equipment manufacturing companies. I have an AA degree in Criminal Justice. I wanted to be an FBI agent but wasn't as naive to the ways of the world as they liked. The local PD loved me. Career ended due to me getting kicked by a horse during academy...which is fine because the chain of command bs sucked.
I enjoy my job but work 7am-3:30 pm, which allows time for horses and family. We do not work weekends and the pay is decent other than I am in California. All job skills were taught on the job...but openings in this office are like an act of congress. A promotion takes approximately 10 years, or for someone to retire. Us younger folks were told to be happy where we are. LOL |
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Location: Freestone TX | I am a Certified Public Accountant (CPA). I have worked a whole second career with the overtime I've put in for 30 years and it has had a very negative impact on my ability to do things in the horse world. That said, it has paid my bills well over the years. I get to buy things........I just never have the time to enjoy them. |
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| I am so glad you said that NoNoBadGirl... that is something I have thought about. I had no idea it was such a demanding career. |
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| I have a fencing business. No education required, just a desire to work yr butt off... 
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| I have a degree in Ag Business but did not like that so got my degree in Radiology worked in that field for 20+ years then got my teaching degree and now teach. If I had known how much fun this was 40 years ago I would have been teaching 40+ years. I LOVE teaching and the kids. I get my 2017-18 kids tomorrow I am so excited to meet them and get to know them. |
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| I jab been teaching 41 years. I have teaching certificates in Vocational Home Economics, Physical Science, Composite Science. I have taught Chemistry and Physics most of the time. I teach Early Graduation now so I have to be proficient in every subject in the high school. French is kinda tough. Laughing |
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Location: Oklahoma | I am a vault clerk for a local casino. Pay is decent but should pay more since it is casino and the money they bring in but casinos are very stingy. I used to have a gov. job that I loved but got laid off when the gov. shut down and I thought hmm casino with be the last thing that will shut down! So here I am going on 3 years! I work nights sun-wed. so I can ride anytime during the day which I adjust depending on weather and if I have any errands Its nice if I have to go to vet and not worry bout taking off for that! But I have to be very careful and make sure I get my sleep in! and I have weekends off!!!! |
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| I am a quality assurance manager for cattle feed.
I have my bachelor's in Animal Science and a master's in Food Safety.
I have spent 7 years in the industry and worked my way into a position to have "horse money" and "horse time". LOL
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Location: Kansas | I'm about to start my third year of teaching high school. This year I'll have 9th-12th grade special education students after teaching English for two years. Summers off is a huge perk, and honestly, since I don't live an extravagant lifestyle (other than horses), I am able to survive without being totally paycheck to paycheck. Once I get my last college classes paid off, it will be better and I think I'll be able to have some extra cash each month. |
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | I work at one of the largest green houses in my area. I am (on paper) a Scouting Supervisor but I have a laundry list of things I do that are surely not on the 'job description' page that was given to me when I started the position.
Not a lot of job selection in my area without having to drive over an hour to get to it. I'm 'over qualified' for most jobs that are close by or they want to pay minimum wage for them. |
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| I'm an Industrial Engineer for a large aircraft manufacturer. My degree is in Journalism - Ha!
My main job is to provide estimates on aircraft repairs for our Repair Station - such as when a baggage cart hits a plane or a pilot lands too hard, etc. Other duties include tracking repair turn times, costs, shop floor layout and work capacity planning. The pay is VERY good (but I have been in this biz for almost 30 years). I have weekends off and normally have a pretty set shift. The downside of this job is that aircraft production is VERY cyclical so I worry about job security all the time. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I have some college. I currently work for a horse trailer manufacturer. Job title is customer service, but we don't sell factory direct, so dealer support would be a better title. Once a dealer gets a customer that wants to order a custom trailer, I draw it up on a production order and price it out. I also get to follow them through the build process. I know how trailers are made and it makes for sitting on my hands A LOT when people talk about trailers. |
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Location: MN | Currently I am an Account Rep for a big wire and cable company that makes products for GE Healthcare, Cummins, Volvo, New York Air Brake systems, you name it. Pay is pretty darn decent for where I live since there isnt much to choose from around here. I have no college, just a lot of customer service experience. 40 hour weeks but I can kinda make my own schedule. Work four, 9 hour days and work a half day on Friday to leave for rodeos is pretty darn nice! I like how flexible they are with that.
Honestly, it is not my favorite job. Might sound silly but waitressing and bartending is what I LOVE to do besides ride horses. Actaully, when I was a full time waitress and bartender, I made more money than I am now and had more time for my horse with less hours worked in a week! Plus, being new to a town, made most of my friends that way and met a lot of amazing people.
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | NoNoBadGirl - 2017-08-01 6:24 PM I am a Certified Public Accountant (CPA). I have worked a whole second career with the overtime I've put in for 30 years and it has had a very negative impact on my ability to do things in the horse world. That said, it has paid my bills well over the years. I get to buy things........I just never have the time to enjoy them.
I'll second this. I don't have my CPA but have my BS in accounting and am a Finance Manager for a manufacturing corp. Finance/accounting world is okay for entry level, but if you aspire to climb further up the ladder the hours can be quite grueling.
I actually think Rodeowithjoker has a good gig..teaching is probably one of the most flexible careers in terms of having summers off and holidays.
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| Im a project manager for a pharmaceutical company. I have a bachelors in Animal Science and Masters in Management. Been with the company for 8 years. There are 2 perks I love, I get to work from home when my kid is sick or bad weather, and an ice cream truck comes every Wednesday for free. |
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| spitzh - 2017-08-02 9:18 AM
Im a project manager for a pharmaceutical company. I have a bachelors in Animal Science and Masters in Management. Been with the company for 8 years. There are 2 perks I love, I get to work from home when my kid is sick or bad weather, and an ice cream truck comes every Wednesday for free.
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Location: Bandera, TX | spitzh - 2017-08-02 9:18 AM Im a project manager for a pharmaceutical company. I have a bachelors in Animal Science and Masters in Management. Been with the company for 8 years. There are 2 perks I love, I get to work from home when my kid is sick or bad weather, and an ice cream truck comes every Wednesday for free.
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| TwistedK - 2017-08-02 7:08 AM
I have some college. I currently work for a horse trailer manufacturer. Job title is customer service, but we don't sell factory direct, so dealer support would be a better title. Once a dealer gets a customer that wants to order a custom trailer, I draw it up on a production order and price it out. I also get to follow them through the build process. I know how trailers are made and it makes for sitting on my hands A LOT when people talk about trailers.
Well know that in a few years when we are ready to design and buy our forever trailer we're going to request you design it :) |
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Location: Willows, CA | I farmed rice and specialty seed crops for 20 years after college. Degrees are in Biology and Chemistry. In the 1980's we were hauling cutting horses and became frustrated with the commercially available feeds and decided to look at fitting the horses body better. My wife and I started a company to develop the use of stabilization of rice bran to allow full nutrient value and usable shelf life of that ingredient with the products Natural Glo, Satin Finish and Equine Shine. At the same time we took our new approach to other equine supplementation and ended up consulting and formulating for a number of national feed companies. Sold that company in 2005 with a non-compete agreement for five years. Spent that time consulting and formulation for other companies. Started feed trials on the concept of Renew Gold in 2012. Today, that is my job and I love it. |
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| I'm also in the aviation industry, I'm a program manager for a company that makes the seats you sit in when you fly airlines all over the world. I have a degree in Animal Science, but ultimately I've been very blessed as common sense seems to be a hot commodity here, and I worked my way up from entry level. Need to figure out what my master's plan is etc. Great money (many make 6 figs), and overall many manufacuring salary jobs(not hourly) are great hours. We shut down over Christmas for a week due to Union agreements. I can work from home, and usually leave work by 2:30 on Fridays:)
A lot of manufacturing places, esp airlines, do "9/80s", meaning you work 1 40 hour week and then the next Friday off!
Back when we were in a bad time a few years ago it was tons of OT and 60 hour weeks, now its great hours and I kinda set my schedule.
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| lopnaround - 2017-08-02 12:02 PM I'm also in the aviation industry, I'm a program manager for a company that makes the seats you sit in when you fly airlines all over the world. I have a degree in Animal Science, but ultimately I've been very blessed as common sense seems to be a hot commodity here, and I worked my way up from entry level. Need to figure out what my master's plan is etc. Great money (many make 6 figs), and overall many manufacuring salary jobs(not hourly) are great hours. We shut down over Christmas for a week due to Union agreements. I can work from home, and usually leave work by 2:30 on Fridays:)
A lot of manufacturing places, esp airlines, do "9/80s", meaning you work 1 40 hour week and then the next Friday off!
Back when we were in a bad time a few years ago it was tons of OT and 60 hour weeks, now its great hours and I kinda set my schedule.
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Location: Oklahoma | OhMax - 2017-08-02 10:07 AM
TwistedK - 2017-08-02 7:08 AM
I have some college. I currently work for a horse trailer manufacturer. Job title is customer service, but we don't sell factory direct, so dealer support would be a better title. Once a dealer gets a customer that wants to order a custom trailer, I draw it up on a production order and price it out. I also get to follow them through the build process. I know how trailers are made and it makes for sitting on my hands A LOT when people talk about trailers.
Well know that in a few years when we are ready to design and buy our forever trailer we're going to request you design it : )
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| Whiteboy - 2017-08-02 12:12 PM lopnaround - 2017-08-02 12:02 PM I'm also in the aviation industry, I'm a program manager for a company that makes the seats you sit in when you fly airlines all over the world. I have a degree in Animal Science, but ultimately I've been very blessed as common sense seems to be a hot commodity here, and I worked my way up from entry level. Need to figure out what my master's plan is etc. Great money (many make 6 figs), and overall many manufacuring salary jobs(not hourly) are great hours. We shut down over Christmas for a week due to Union agreements. I can work from home, and usually leave work by 2:30 on Fridays:)
A lot of manufacturing places, esp airlines, do "9/80s", meaning you work 1 40 hour week and then the next Friday off!
Back when we were in a bad time a few years ago it was tons of OT and 60 hour weeks, now its great hours and I kinda set my schedule.
I have a few recomendations about those seats...lol
Bahaha most people do! It's so funny how some airlines come in with customer comfort as #1, others are all about cheap cheap and weight savings!! |
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Location: On My Horse! | I'm a police officer. I have been for about 4 years now. The schedule is tough. I work Friday - Monday, 9PM to 7AM. I sold off my open horses and just have my 3 year old filly I bop around on until I send her off. Schedule is not flexible, and sometimes you have court when your off duty. Education wise, I have an AA is Criminal Justice Admin. AS is Criminal Justice Technology and I'm about 3 classes short of my BS degree. Once I finish that, I want to look into Elementary education and teaching.. |
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| Speedy Buckeye Girl - 2017-08-02 9:13 AM
NoNoBadGirl - 2017-08-01 6:24 PM I am a Certified Public Accountant (CPA). I have worked a whole second career with the overtime I've put in for 30 years and it has had a very negative impact on my ability to do things in the horse world. That said, it has paid my bills well over the years. I get to buy things........I just never have the time to enjoy them.
I'll second this. I don't have my CPA but have my BS in accounting and am a Finance Manager for a manufacturing corp. Finance/accounting world is okay for entry level, but if you aspire to climb further up the ladder the hours can be quite grueling.
I actually think Rodeowithjoker has a good gig..teaching is probably one of the most flexible careers in terms of having summers off and holidays.
What most people do not understand about teaching is that you put money into a fund other than SOCIAL SECURITY. Unless your school district takes out social security also, you can only draw about 30% of your social security that you normally would each month (provided you paid in 40 quarters). That means that people who worked years doing one thing then decided to be a teacher have ruined any chance of drawing social security. This includes social security from your spouse also. This is something that young people need to understand because if you put money into teacher retirement for 10 or 12 years then quit teaching you can get your money out of teacher retirement but it will be about half of what was put in with no interest. We do not get any paid holidays. One other thing you need to know and this is true in Texas, I have no idea about other states, after 19 years, you never get another raise unless the state raises the minimum salary. Last year everyone in our district got a raise except the teachers who had a lot of years. |
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Location: Texas | I'm an equine veterinarian. I have a BS in Biology and then completed my DVM this spring. I get every other weekend and about three nights a week on call. The weekends I work means I work two weeks straight, but its not too bad...the weekends are more of a come in and check on patients and be available for emergencies. A lot of you probably make more than I do with less student loan debt. LOL.
This is probably not the best job for flexibility and family time. We all make it work.. I don't compete as much as I used to but I live in an area with weeknight barrel races almost every day so that makes it possible for me to go places. I do get 2 weeks of vacation so I can use that to go to some bigger shows. |
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| I work in ordering/materials/inventory for a large oil company. It's a good job and I enjoy it, but looking into going back to school. Sitting at a desk for 8+ hours a day is killing me, but so is the thought of going back to classes.... |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | I have two jobs; my degree is animal science and business agriculture. My full-time job is Insurance and Regulatory Compliance Coordinator for a national warehousing company. On the weekends I am an animal care assistant for an outpatient equine therapy farm. This doesn't let much time for my own horses but right now I am doing what I need to for my family. |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | Way Cool Griz!!
My son was in school for aeronatical engineering but is now changing to mechanical. My daughter is looking into airport design.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Everyone else is chiming in so I thought I would with something you probably wouldn't be much interested in as you would need quite a bit more education which takes a good bit of time too. One of the reasons I got this job is its flexibility though. I am a community college professor.
I work Monday thru Thursday. I am frequently to work by 8 or 9 am depending on when my first class starts. I am usually able to leave from 3-4. I work half days for 3-4 hours (I decide what time it is unless we have training) on Fridays. We have even better vacation than regular school teachers as our semesters are shorter. There does tend to be some take home work (unless you want to stay at the office more) in terms of class prep and grading. You can usually pick up an overtime class or two per semester or in the summer if you want. Pay is okay though certainly not great for the level of education. You sacrifice some on that front because you get really good benefits and a lot of vacation. No one polices me in my office to make sure I am not onto non work related stuff. I can grade in my office and play around on the internet at the same time (this is how I take my breaks). If you work in the summer it is really just bonus pay and most colleges are closed on Fridays so you have three day weekends all summer. Frequently you have some say in your class schedule too. You can decide most of what your classes look like. Steady paycheck.
The job can be really stressful. You get decent sick leave allowances. Otherwise, there really isn't much break during the semesters so if there is a big show you really want to go to during November or April or something its pretty much tough luck. So you get great vacation but you don't really have any choice about when it is. You also have very definite deadlines. There are a ton of politics too. The students are the greatest part and also the terrible one. One thing I can say, when you teach college students, if they aren't doing their homework that isn't blamed on you as much as they do at the elementary and high school levels. You are still expected to help motivate them reasonably. But at some point they are just adults and have to take responsibility.
If you work at a university, stuff is even more flexible, but they have much more demanding research expectations so you teach fewer classes. At the community college, the grading deadlines can get tough.
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| I've recently posted about this, but I'll post a little more. I have a B.S. in Agribusiness and a Masters of Agriculture I got in May. Since then I have been a Patient Navigator in Emergency Medicine linking HCV and HIV patients to care, with the biggest challenge a lot of them being IV drug users or most living in rural WV hours away. It's been very interesting and rewarding, but I want to do what I studied. The 10th is my last day and then I start managing a beef cattle farm. Very excited as the farm has tons of room for growth and development. Taking a pay cut but with a free farm house, company truck, cell phone, place to have a horse, yard for my dog, etc...I'll take it! I'll actually be able to save more. It is basically a 24/7 job, but every day will be different as there is so much to do and be done. I've been stir crazy in this hospital job and am so excited to be able to wear mainly tshirt, jeans, and boots to work. Haha. Will be hard work but the quality of life change is big to me. Have you considered "contract" work? This farm also has a lot of things needing to be done in accordance with USDA grants including a Nutrient Management Plan. I am going to pursue being certified to do Nutrient Management Plans as I worked on one as an intern a few years ago, like doing them, and the USDA will pay you to do them by farm  |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | blccwgl55 - 2017-08-02 3:19 PM I've recently posted about this, but I'll post a little more. I have a B.S. in Agribusiness and a Masters of Agriculture I got in May. Since then I have been a Patient Navigator in Emergency Medicine linking HCV and HIV patients to care, with the biggest challenge a lot of them being IV drug users or most living in rural WV hours away. It's been very interesting and rewarding, but I want to do what I studied. The 10th is my last day and then I start managing a beef cattle farm. Very excited as the farm has tons of room for growth and development. Taking a pay cut but with a free farm house, company truck, cell phone, place to have a horse, yard for my dog, etc...I'll take it! I'll actually be able to save more. It is basically a 24/7 job, but every day will be different as there is so much to do and be done. I've been stir crazy in this hospital job and am so excited to be able to wear mainly tshirt, jeans, and boots to work. Haha. Will be hard work but the quality of life change is big to me. Have you considered "contract" work? This farm also has a lot of things needing to be done in accordance with USDA grants including a Nutrient Management Plan. I am going to pursue being certified to do Nutrient Management Plans as I worked on one as an intern a few years ago, like doing them, and the USDA will pay you to do them by farm
Good luck! I studied the USDA regs. That is what I was hoping to be doing. The regs. and insurance for the farms.
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| Streakysox pointed out some very important facts about teaching. If you are an individual that plans on collecting SS and teacher retirement, do your homework. It isn't allowed. You also cannot collect SS left to you by your spouse without reducing your TRS by over half.
Fresh out of college, 33 years ago, I can't say that teaching was a bad deal. Today, I look at the pay scale and see that I'm only making about 12 to 15 thousand more than a first year teacher. My master's degree increases my salary by only $1000 a year, and the top of the pay scale NEVER gets a raise.
There used to be 3 reasons to major in education....June, July, and August. Now, there are only two reasons....June and July. Also, what some may not realize is you must earn comp time to get some holidays off. In Weatherford ISD, we must work during the summer to get the three days prior to Thanksgiving off. In fact, we must have a comp day to get Martin L King Day off.
Great benefits USED to justify majoring in education. Today, my share of my medical insurance is $458 a month out of my pocket. And yes, that is just me.
Lastly, when you hit 65, you hit rock bottom....Humana Medicare. They are the absolute worst.
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | I have my Bachelors in Animal Science and another Bachelors in Business (double majored in college) and minored in Bus. Admin... I graduated in 2004 and after job searching in my degree/field - ended up going to work for a large insurance corporation as an adjuster.. I worked for them for 2 years before transitioning to a different Insurance Corp that I love.. main reason for leaving the first one was no benefits or health insurance.. At any rate been with this company for 11 years and have doubled my salary since starting.. never imagined going into insurance adjusting when I studied in college.. but it pays the bills and its Monday-Friday 99% of the time leaving me time to do what I want on the weekends and after work during the week. It can be stressful - we manage a lot of customers and a large territory in a competitive business but they compensate us well. Would love to win the lottery... but til then.. I guess i'll keep doing this lol. |
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| luckyjo - 2017-08-02 4:52 PM
Streakysox pointed out some very important facts about teaching. If you are an individual that plans on collecting SS and teacher retirement, do your homework. It isn't allowed. You also cannot collect SS left to you by your spouse without reducing your TRS by over half.
Fresh out of college, 33 years ago, I can't say that teaching was a bad deal. Today, I look at the pay scale and see that I'm only making about 12 to 15 thousand more than a first year teacher. My master's degree increases my salary by only $1000 a year, and the top of the pay scale NEVER gets a raise.
There used to be 3 reasons to major in education....June, July, and August. Now, there are only two reasons....June and July. Also, what some may not realize is you must earn comp time to get some holidays off. In Weatherford ISD, we must work during the summer to get the three days prior to Thanksgiving off. In fact, we must have a comp day to get Martin L King Day off.
Great benefits USED to justify majoring in education. Today, my share of my medical insurance is $458 a month out of my pocket. And yes, that is just me.
Lastly, when you hit 65, you hit rock bottom....Humana Medicare. They are the absolute worst.
Thinking about majoring in education? Think harder!! Just say, "No!"
I have some other remarks that I will keep to myself but I will agree Humana is the pits. Looking into something else like AARP.
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| utahgirl - 2017-08-01 3:51 PM I am so glad you said that NoNoBadGirl... that is something I have thought about. I had no idea it was such a demanding career.
You can do soooo many things with an accounting degree - I recommend a few years in a CPA firm to get some experience and they look at private industry - the opportunities are endless. And you will have time and $$ to pay for your horses. :) |
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I'm a product quality inspector/technical writer for a company that manufactures radiofrequency coils for MRI machines. These are devices that work with an MRI scanner to create high radiofrequency images of certain anatomies, like the head, knee, or shoulder.
My actual job is to ensure that the trace-ability and compliance related details of the individual parts/components coming in from our suppliers are in line with the FDA's expectations. The FDA is the "biggie," but there are numerous other organizations, institutions, and customers that audit us. I do technical writing as well - though to a lesser degree (I'm ok with that...a lot of it is fixing others' past mistakes lol!). I handle some electronic change control to a lesser degree as well...usually limited to projects that will help the QA/RA/PQ teams. We help other departments sometimes too (Ooyyyy).
Honestly, I don't think I'll be able to top this job and feel like I hit the jackpot. It's not realistic to think I'll be here forever (that would be fine by me) but the experience I've gained will serve me SO well. It's really, really cool. Everyday it's something different/new - and I've learned that I'm a lot more capable than I ever thought I'd be. Of course, something could happen tomorrow that'll take me down a few pegs (that happens a lot too - but in a good way by keeping me humble).
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Location: Kansas | luckyjo - 2017-08-02 4:52 PM Streakysox pointed out some very important facts about teaching. If you are an individual that plans on collecting SS and teacher retirement, do your homework. It isn't allowed. You also cannot collect SS left to you by your spouse without reducing your TRS by over half. Fresh out of college, 33 years ago, I can't say that teaching was a bad deal. Today, I look at the pay scale and see that I'm only making about 12 to 15 thousand more than a first year teacher. My master's degree increases my salary by only $1000 a year, and the top of the pay scale NEVER gets a raise. There used to be 3 reasons to major in education....June, July, and August. Now, there are only two reasons....June and July. Also, what some may not realize is you must earn comp time to get some holidays off. In Weatherford ISD, we must work during the summer to get the three days prior to Thanksgiving off. In fact, we must have a comp day to get Martin L King Day off. Great benefits USED to justify majoring in education. Today, my share of my medical insurance is $458 a month out of my pocket. And yes, that is just me. Lastly, when you hit 65, you hit rock bottom....Humana Medicare. They are the absolute worst. Thinking about majoring in education? Think harder!! Just say, "No!"
Those pay scale differences aren't so true in Kansas. The top end at the districts where I've worked has made a LOT more than those of us with less experience. My masters degree last year raised my salary over $4,600 and this year it is a $3,000 and change difference from a bachelors. That is all with barely any teaching experience (this is my 3rd year).
I have no idea on social security and teacher retirement, but my dad retired after 30+ years of teaching in Kansas and has no complaints about his retirement income. KPERS (KS public employees retirement system) doesn't seem to be too bad of a deal.
None of my districts have required me to work during the summer, though one would allow you to work one Flex Day in the summer instead of during Christmas break.That was nice. |
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Location: Kentucky | I help people drink and enjoy bourbon. I have a BA in Business Administration, and my Master's in Communication. I've been working at this for 10 years now. Lots of time in the industry, and lots of time making buddies in the industry. |
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| flyingcolors - 2017-08-02 1:24 PM
Way Cool Griz!!
My son was in school for aeronatical engineering but is now changing to mechanical. My daughter is looking into airport design.
Thanks! Believe it or not, I actually LOVE what I do. I just hope I can continue until retirement. The management turnover is quite an issue here and WHO you work for makes a huge difference in job satisfaction to me. I like the ones who are NOT micro-managers and just let me do my job!  |
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| veintiocho - 2017-08-02 1:07 PM I work in ordering/materials/inventory for a large oil company. It's a good job and I enjoy it, but looking into going back to school. Sitting at a desk for 8+ hours a day is killing me, but so is the thought of going back to classes....
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| brlraceaddict - 2017-08-02 5:51 PM
utahgirl - 2017-08-01 3:51 PM I am so glad you said that NoNoBadGirl... that is something I have thought about. I had no idea it was such a demanding career.
You can do soooo many things with an accounting degree - I recommend a few years in a CPA firm to get some experience and they look at private industry - the opportunities are endless. And you will have time and $$ to pay for your horses. :)
This is very true. I have my CPA, MBA and Bachelors in Business Administration and after putting in a little time in the public sector, I've worked in the private side for years and absolutely love it. I've worked for a wholesale nursery, HVAC system wholesalers, and a nonprofit organization since. I currently work for a mid-sized commercial real estate company. I make a comfortable living, pay for my horse habit, and have plenty of flexibility. Don't let accounting scare you off! There's always a need, you can get a job almost anywhere, and can make a decent living. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions! |
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| rodeowithjoker - 2017-08-03 9:40 AM
luckyjo - 2017-08-02 4:52 PM Streakysox pointed out some very important facts about teaching. If you are an individual that plans on collecting SS and teacher retirement, do your homework. It isn't allowed. You also cannot collect SS left to you by your spouse without reducing your TRS by over half. Fresh out of college, 33 years ago, I can't say that teaching was a bad deal. Today, I look at the pay scale and see that I'm only making about 12 to 15 thousand more than a first year teacher. My master's degree increases my salary by only $1000 a year, and the top of the pay scale NEVER gets a raise. There used to be 3 reasons to major in education....June, July, and August. Now, there are only two reasons....June and July. Also, what some may not realize is you must earn comp time to get some holidays off. In Weatherford ISD, we must work during the summer to get the three days prior to Thanksgiving off. In fact, we must have a comp day to get Martin L King Day off. Great benefits USED to justify majoring in education. Today, my share of my medical insurance is $458 a month out of my pocket. And yes, that is just me. Lastly, when you hit 65, you hit rock bottom....Humana Medicare. They are the absolute worst. Thinking about majoring in education? Think harder!! Just say, "No!"
Those pay scale differences aren't so true in Kansas. The top end at the districts where I've worked has made a LOT more than those of us with less experience. My masters degree last year raised my salary over $4,600 and this year it is a $3,000 and change difference from a bachelors. That is all with barely any teaching experience (this is my 3rd year).
I have no idea on social security and teacher retirement, but my dad retired after 30+ years of teaching in Kansas and has no complaints about his retirement income. KPERS (KS public employees retirement system) doesn't seem to be too bad of a deal.
None of my districts have required me to work during the summer, though one would allow you to work one Flex Day in the summer instead of during Christmas break.That was nice.
I work in Marshall ISD (TX). Apparently you do not have state testing in Kansas. We are required to teach the state objectives for the tests. If your students do not perform well on tests, you get reassigned. First year teachers probably make about $15,000 les than top pay scale. Spec Ed teachers have so much paperwork that we cannnot keep them. Teacher retirement has such a crazy formula to figure out what your monthly income is so I am no going to even try to explain. It is better than social security but not much. I teach in an accute shortage area so I am able to teach and draw my retirement also. If we didn't have a bunch of retired teachers teaching we would be short many teachers. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Department of Agriculture in the pesticide licensing. Monday thru Friday, all holidays off, paid vacation and sick leave. It's just very boring. Not exciting at all. But I've only been here since December and once you're hired it's fairly easy to move around so I just need to find something I like. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | I'm an entrepreneur. We have a flooring business and an online shop called Mad Girl Retro. We sell vintage. I'm excited because my shop has been getting "discovered" and I recently sold some things to famous people and places like the HBO TV show Getting On with Laurie Metcalf and Alex Borstein and to the Tenement Museum in NYC. |
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Location: Florida | Collecting TRS and SSA varies from state to state. In Florida you can get both. If SSA is deducted from your check you are eligible. I know because I work for a teacher union. My Bachelors is in Biology but I quickly learned that I couldn't support my family on that. Tried teaching but discovered that I couldn't tolerate brats that some parents dump on the school system expecting it to raise/fix. So I moved to the union defending teachers so they can actually teach. I guess I am kind of a hard ass when it comes to support in discipline but I was raised rodeo and just can't believe how so many kids today have no respect for anything, not even themselves.
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| Actually, I pointed the social security detail out in my first post.
Obviously, most other states do not have statewide testing. I nTexas they hold teachers accountable for their students' scores. If your students do not do well, you are reassigned to something that no one else will do hoping you will leave. Soooo, if you have a group of AP students taking one of the tests, you job is pretty secure. On the other hand, if your entire class is low performing students, you are in trouble. It is sad because we need good teachers but anyone who goes into education now needs to rethink that one.
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Location: Dubach, LA | streakysox - 2017-08-06 1:49 PM
Actually, I pointed the social security detail out in my first post.
Obviously, most other states do not have statewide testing. I nTexas they hold teachers accountable for their students' scores. If your students do not do well, you are reassigned to something that no one else will do hoping you will leave. Soooo, if you have a group of AP students taking one of the tests, you job is pretty secure. On the other hand, if your entire class is low performing students, you are in trouble. It is sad because we need good teachers but anyone who goes into education now needs to rethink that one.
I'll be devil's advocate today, Allison. I teach gifted and honors. There is only so much you can reasonably expect from these kids. Sometimes I felt that administration was expecting brain surgery or rocket science out of my junior high kids. The first year of VAM, the math teacher with all the smart kids failed. Her kids were so smart they didn't have enough room to grow left on the model, so the teacher failed. |
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Location: Florida | TG this year Florida has dumped VAM. Hopefully the tide is turning and sanity will return. Charter schools are also declining and failing. The charter exploiters are being arrested and convicted of fraud. The new law said that teachers that gave up tenure to go on a merit based pay scale, so as a union who truly believes in what we are doing we negotiated that the merit pay raise is $1 more than the traditional raise. Some of us are still fighting and believing in public education. |
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| I have an associates degree in veterinary technology. Worked in the vet field for 4+ years and could barely pay my bills. I got a job at a silver company in March of 2015 that was only 5 minutes from home. I have worked my way up to 4 promotions in my time here, and truly enjoy my job. I make almost double what I made in the vet field. I started Monday-Friday 8-5 and occasional weekends when we ran sales that were astronomical and couldn't keep up with order capacity. I am now 7-4 and no weekends. I have 4 weeks of vacation, and had no prior experience in the field. I am blessed!  |
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Location: Kansas | streakysox - 2017-08-03 5:10 PM rodeowithjoker - 2017-08-03 9:40 AM luckyjo - 2017-08-02 4:52 PM Streakysox pointed out some very important facts about teaching. If you are an individual that plans on collecting SS and teacher retirement, do your homework. It isn't allowed. You also cannot collect SS left to you by your spouse without reducing your TRS by over half. Fresh out of college, 33 years ago, I can't say that teaching was a bad deal. Today, I look at the pay scale and see that I'm only making about 12 to 15 thousand more than a first year teacher. My master's degree increases my salary by only $1000 a year, and the top of the pay scale NEVER gets a raise. There used to be 3 reasons to major in education....June, July, and August. Now, there are only two reasons....June and July. Also, what some may not realize is you must earn comp time to get some holidays off. In Weatherford ISD, we must work during the summer to get the three days prior to Thanksgiving off. In fact, we must have a comp day to get Martin L King Day off. Great benefits USED to justify majoring in education. Today, my share of my medical insurance is $458 a month out of my pocket. And yes, that is just me. Lastly, when you hit 65, you hit rock bottom....Humana Medicare. They are the absolute worst. Thinking about majoring in education? Think harder!! Just say, "No!" Those pay scale differences aren't so true in Kansas. The top end at the districts where I've worked has made a LOT more than those of us with less experience. My masters degree last year raised my salary over $4,600 and this year it is a $3,000 and change difference from a bachelors. That is all with barely any teaching experience (this is my 3rd year).
I have no idea on social security and teacher retirement, but my dad retired after 30+ years of teaching in Kansas and has no complaints about his retirement income. KPERS (KS public employees retirement system) doesn't seem to be too bad of a deal.
None of my districts have required me to work during the summer, though one would allow you to work one Flex Day in the summer instead of during Christmas break.That was nice. I work in Marshall ISD (TX ). Apparently you do not have state testing in Kansas. We are required to teach the state objectives for the tests. If your students do not perform well on tests, you get reassigned. First year teachers probably make about $15,000 les than top pay scale. Spec Ed teachers have so much paperwork that we cannnot keep them. Teacher retirement has such a crazy formula to figure out what your monthly income is so I am no going to even try to explain. It is better than social security but not much. I teach in an accute shortage area so I am able to teach and draw my retirement also. If we didn't have a bunch of retired teachers teaching we would be short many teachers.
Sounds like our testing requirements are very different. I didn't even have to give a state assessment last year to my 9th graders. The year before, my 7th graders took state assessments but our school didn't have results by the end of the year so they couldn't use that data to do anything about keeping/reassigning/getting rid of teachers.
Kansas is actually decreasing the emphasis on state assessments and focusing more on individual plans of study now. It's really nice because that allows teachers to actually teach students instead of worrying about how they'll score on standardized tests.
I looked at the special ed coop salaray schedule where I work and the base with a bachelors and no experience is $37K then it goes to upwards of $55K - I can't remember exactly where it stopped because I was kind of surprised to see 50K on there when every teacher in Kansas seems to want to B*tch and moan about how underpaid we are. It sounds like we have it better than some states. |
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Location: South Georgia | I am a high school English teacher and a Student Services Coordinator (kind of like the Asst. Principal and/or Guidance Counselor) at a local charter high school.
I received my Bachelors in Secondary Education English and my Masters in English. Georgia has a state pay scale for all employees based on years of experience and degree level. Also, districts add on to this state salary scale amount with their own "local supplement." I have excellent health insurance. I never pay out of pocket, basically. My system does NOT pay into SS, so I have my own supplemental 403b retirement accounts, as well as other means of retirement savings.
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Location: South Georgia | luckyjo - 2017-08-02 5:52 PM Streakysox pointed out some very important facts about teaching. If you are an individual that plans on collecting SS and teacher retirement, do your homework. It isn't allowed. You also cannot collect SS left to you by your spouse without reducing your TRS by over half. Fresh out of college, 33 years ago, I can't say that teaching was a bad deal. Today, I look at the pay scale and see that I'm only making about 12 to 15 thousand more than a first year teacher. My master's degree increases my salary by only $1000 a year, and the top of the pay scale NEVER gets a raise. There used to be 3 reasons to major in education....June, July, and August. Now, there are only two reasons....June and July. Also, what some may not realize is you must earn comp time to get some holidays off. In Weatherford ISD, we must work during the summer to get the three days prior to Thanksgiving off. In fact, we must have a comp day to get Martin L King Day off. Great benefits USED to justify majoring in education. Today, my share of my medical insurance is $458 a month out of my pocket. And yes, that is just me. Lastly, when you hit 65, you hit rock bottom....Humana Medicare. They are the absolute worst. Thinking about majoring in education? Think harder!! Just say, "No!"
Here in GA, my Master's degree increased my salary by over $6,000/year. |
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Location: Canada | I have a degree in Public Relations and Communications and other accreditations in sustainable building design.
I am a project manager for large commercial construction projects. I loved it because I would work from home or on site so I had flexibility. I have worked on projects from $1 million to $500 million dollar projects which while the dollar value is vastly different the challenges aren't that different.
Now I work on government projects and work from home 3 days a week and spend 2 in my office or onsite. I love my job. |
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| kortnimarquette - 2017-08-08 10:49 AM I have an associates degree in veterinary technology. Worked in the vet field for 4+ years and could barely pay my bills. I got a job at a silver company in March of 2015 that was only 5 minutes from home. I have worked my way up to 4 promotions in my time here, and truly enjoy my job. I make almost double what I made in the vet field. I started Monday-Friday 8-5 and occasional weekends when we ran sales that were astronomical and couldn't keep up with order capacity. I am now 7-4 and no weekends. I have 4 weeks of vacation, and had no prior experience in the field. I am blessed!
This is me too!! I never imagined I would be in aerospace, but worked really hard and here I am, "adulting" with an income I always dreamed of! Hard work really pays off, something I wish I knew when I was 27 and really struggling. |
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| I take people on trail rides down the beach and colt start/ride problem horses. I also house sit a lot during the summer. Granted, my job isn't a 'real job' and I'm working on my degree in business--going to switch to nursing though as I think that is reliable, good career. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | I'm currently a domestic engineer! I quit my job 8 months ago when I had my son! Before that I spent 5 years with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. I started with criminal classification, a really interesting desk job. I did that for probably two years before being promoted to agriculture. I worked in the swine department for two years and then was the first woman in the state to ever be hired to the livestock division of agriculture. I worked in the equine division overseeing the breeding, weaning and breaking of all saddle horses within all TDCJ units. It was my dream job until Brody Steele showed up!! The money wasn't great, but the knowledge and experience was incredible! |
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| I'm currently working 2 part time jobs, both are fairly flexible with me and I love them both. Eventually I'll drop to one to really give me some more free time for the ponies and such though.
My first job is as a teller at a credit union. I have some background with money handling and customer service from previous credit union and retail jobs. Banking hours are pretty tough to beat and at a credit union everyone is so mellow (aside from making sure you meet certain regulations of course).
My second job is as a breeding/kennel assistant. I help get dogs ready for breeding, checkups, puppy watch, feeding, cleaning, puppy care, prepping for new homes, and some more misc. tasks I'm sure I'm forgetting. Thankfully for my background I'd already been around breeding dogs/horses and training dogs/horses so they were excited to know they didn't need to train me from scratch.
At the moment I'm catching up on bills from having been out of work for so long (recent divorce and illness in the family), but I'm at a point where one job is basically paying the bills and the other job is getting me to where I can start saving for stud fees for my mare and Miniature American Shepherd, plus other fun things in the meantime too! |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | I am a corporate travel manager -- meaning I manage the contracts / relationships with travel vendors (airlines, car rental companies, hotel properties, online booking & expense tool, etc.). I have a Masters in Management plus a Certified Corporate Travel Executive designation (like a Masters degree in travel management) and a GTP certification (Global Travel Professional) which is like getting a CPA except it's for travel management. It's an extremely interesting, challenging and ever-changing field -- lots of technology. I really enjoy the contract negotiations. Of course there is travel involved, but I'm way over that -- it's a chore. |
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| I am a Communications Deputy for our county's Sheriff's Office. I love what I do- I'm on rotating shifts, with plenty of time off, I have great benefits and work with a fantastic squad. This is an extremely competitive field to get in to, and you have to dot your T's and cross your I's when it comes to the application and testing (as this is a law enforcement position), but all training and CE is provided by my agency. I basically handle incoming 911 and non-emergency calls, dispatch them out on the radio and make sure our LEOs come home safe whatever time of day it is! It can be challenging, but like I said, I have a great squad to work with and there are so many more pros than cons.
My husband is self-employed as an equine vet (obviously vet school is a requirement there), and my career makes it possible for him to have health, dental and vision insurance (plus a free tech when I am not working!), and steady income when his business slows down in the off-season.
One career I think I would have enjoyed is being a residential real estate appraiser. My mother is self-employed as an appraiser and she LOVES it! She is able to set her own hours, and has it figured out how many appraisals she needs a month to pay the bills, and any more than that is her "fun money". She had to get certified, and has CE hours she needs to keep up, but her overhead is extremely low! I highly recommend looking it up. Each state has different regulations on appraisers, I believe, but it is one of the most flexible careers I have seen. I think you can be as busy or as slow as you prefer!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | rodeowithjoker - 2017-08-01 8:58 PM I'm about to start my third year of teaching high school. This year I'll have 9th-12th grade special education students after teaching English for two years. Summers off is a huge perk, and honestly, since I don't live an extravagant lifestyle (other than horses), I am able to survive without being totally paycheck to paycheck. Once I get my last college classes paid off, it will be better and I think I'll be able to have some extra cash each month.
I ranch with my husband on his family's ranch. Schedule is very flexible as long as nothing is calving, hay isn't ready, storms stay away, fences are up and windmills are all working. Love it as I work beside my boys. Money is not so much because if you sell everything and have money, you run out of money. If you keep heifers back to build the herd, the rest goes to the cost of living/upkeep and feed for the next year. We always say you ranch for the lifestyle, not the money. I am also a part time brand inspector. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2017-08-20 4:38 PM
rodeowithjoker - 2017-08-01 8:58 PM I'm about to start my third year of teaching high school. This year I'll have 9th-12th grade special education students after teaching English for two years. Summers off is a huge perk, and honestly, since I don't live an extravagant lifestyle (other than horses), I am able to survive without being totally paycheck to paycheck. Once I get my last college classes paid off, it will be better and I think I'll be able to have some extra cash each month.
I ranch with my husband on his family's ranch. Schedule is very flexible as long as nothing is calving, hay isn't ready, storms stay away, fences are up and windmills are all working. Love it as I work beside my boys. Money is not so much because if you sell everything and have money, you run out of money. If you keep heifers back to build the herd, the rest goes to the cost of living/upkeep and feed for the next year. We always say you ranch for the lifestyle, not the money. I am also a part time brand inspector.
I second your post! My family ranched while my mom had her 'town job' (even though she worked from home), and I learned so many valuable lessons, which included the idea that money isn't everything! There's always ups and downs to the lifestyle, but when you put your blood, sweat and tears into something, it's that much more rewarding to see the end product!
My husband and I are really trying to keep our lives simple, and I give goat tying and riding lessons on the side. Instead of getting paid for a set of lessons, I just got paid in a cut and wrapped fodder-fed Tamworth pig and let me tell you, I LOVE trading and bartering for goods instead of getting money. Yes money is great, but I am thankful I have skills that others find useful, whereas they have the means- if that makes sense. |
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